And probably some things that might offend you, but don’t listen to this. Can’t wait till you listen. Yeah, don’t, if you’re 18 up. Don’t do it if you’re 18 up. Yeah. Welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. It is Sean, Eric, and Jorge again. What’s up, everybody? What’s going on, y’all? We’re going to do episode number four, four, the grand finale. Yeah, part four, OJ Simpson Saga. I like, I just love that word, Saga. Yeah, just sounds like epic. Yeah, the Saga. I recall, I’m not sure. No, it’s a, uh, hypothetically recall. Hypothetically recall that I may or may not have done this. And Charlie, you know, but if I did, let me tell you how I did it.

Yeah. So the last episodes, obviously, go back. Don’t listen to part four. No, that’d be foolish. Without anything else, we had part one, part two, part three. We went over what the story of OJ, the, the trial, the trial, the murders. Yeah, the murd is what actually happened. The book, the fle book. Yes. And the civil case, the robbery, the robbery. Yes. You got so 33 years, but he served, n, nine. Yes. And we, we left off at, he was released in 2017. Yep, living his best life in Orlando. That’s right. Damn it. So just as a recap, I just wanted to remind everybody, so in 95 he lost the Civil Court, the, from the Goldman’s in the Browns, and he was ordered to pay $33 million.

Right. Many millions. Yeah. So before he moved to Miami and to Orlando, he did pay 500,000 or so, in just stuff from being sold. So a meager 500k out of 33 million. So now, when you lose a, a case and you don’t pay, there is interest. There is an interest involved. W. So like, what is the, what is today’s, like, total amount, like, heow 135 M serly? So it’s, it’s a very small amount, but to this day he now owes 60 million [bleep], which that shit’ll never get paid. No, he will never be able to accumulate that much money. So these are some of the things that are, that he makes now, that are protected because of the State of Florida and because of his NFL ties.

Okay. Uh, so he became eligible for the NFL pension, which pays him about $10,000 per month for the rest of his life. So it’s 120k a year. There you go. Right. Um, that’s 10, 10 time 12, bro. Well, he just said about, I don’t know. Okay, additionally, he’s part of the screen actor’s guild, because, oh really? I thought you had to still make movies to be part of that. I don’t know the requirements to join it, but he also gets a pension from the Screen Actor. What’s the pension for, that? 1,700 a month. That’s, I should join the screen, I should join the Screen Actor.

I know, I’ll take 17 a month. Yeah, uh, so there you go. So that’s what he’s making, that’s protected, on a monthly, including his home that he would live in, in Florida. Yeah. So can’t make you sell your home. Yeah, that’s right, he’s making about a buck 30 a year for doing nothing. Yeah, for doing nothing. Yeah, yeah. So then, everything else that he does or wants to do in life, he has to do it secretly, and he has to do it to hide it from the Goldman. Yeah. Well, I was wondering, like, when he, like, say, like, he gets like a part-time job, like, do they just, like, stien his paycheck, they just, like, we’re taking 50% of everything, how does that work?

I’m just, it’s a hypothe, hypothetically, hypothetically. Rec calling, calling. No, but he’s responsible. But I do wonder, like, how the hell does he make money, like, does he take some, you know? He doesn’t take endorsements. I’ve never seen, no, but like, what does he do? I don’t, I’ve never seen him, of just the free, don’t. Well, no one’s going to buy a [bleep] Herz commercial, you’re never shopping there. 100%, that’s what I’m saying, I’ve never seen. I would assume that he gets paid for appearances, at like, showing up at the golf C, golf course, at, I would assume, the Orlando golf, we’ll give you free lunch, you know, you know, uh, what’s his name, Wolf of Wall Street?

Oh, but he does, he does, like, it’s a little different, it is a little different, yeah, cuz he wasn’t on a trial for murder, he was just, like, but he did, he did owe, he did owe millions of dollars, but he’s paid it back though, has he? I’m Jordan bord, I’m pretty sure, he mak, because he makes millions of dollars a year, like, today. Is he paying it back or he already paid it back? Belford’s restitution agreement requires him to pay 50% of his income towards restitution to the, 1500 clients he defrauded, until 2009, with a total of $110 million in restitution, further mandated. Further, so he probably got paid for the movie, his agreement was different, because his agreement was just 50% of whatever he makes, which is actually a better deal.

Yeah, I mean, if you were to talk about, I know this sounds shallow, but yeah, as far as deals go, well yeah, because you could still, you’d be like, okay, I make 2 million, I pay a million back. Yeah, okay. Yeah, compared to everything. It does say, according to some estimates, he may have paid back over 15 million since being released from prison. I see. So he’s paid back substantially more than, O, okay. So OJ is currently at 500,000 paid back, and it seems like he makes money, I don’t know, I don’t know, it’s all the, it’s that Twitter life. Yeah, I know, right, like, do it for the Graham.

I, you never know, you never know, he could be living, maybe he’s living poorly, I only saying it seems, I don’t know the answer. Yeah, yeah, but we are going to touch into it, and, and I don’t like it, but anyways, we’re g to touch into it a little bit later about, about, um, what he’s doing today, today, today, right now, yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But before we did that, I do wanted to, I want to go into, obviously, the conspiracies, go into, that’s the whole purpose of this podcast, I wanted to go into what are the theories, and what are, what do you guys think, what, what are the possible things that may have happened?

Okay, if you still believe he did it, totally fine, but maybe there was some different parts of the story that we don’t know, that maybe you have a theory on, you know what I mean. So the first thing, I was like, well, first off, let’s figure out where the prosecution went wrong. Right, like, what were the holes, everywhere, step one, the whole case, everything, okay? So, and the first thing I, I think, occurred, is that at that time, they didn’t fully have the weight of the importance of DNA. Yeah, right. I think it was probably in its, like, barebones infancy. Yeah, this is not Forensic Files time period.

This is not, well, even, even in Forensic Files, what they do is they, they run DNA later, sh that, and, oh, we went back, but it’s too late now, cuz even if they did do it, it doesn’t matter. Yeah, that’s right, that’s right. So just a couple points on the DNA, because remember, they found blood at the scene, in the, in the Bronco too. Yeah, so at the scene it was Ron, Nicole, OJ’s blood at the scene. Yeah, that’s right, right, then all three of them had blood in the bronos, like you’re saying, and then along the steps, in the house, in the closet, in the driveway, everywhere, all that stuff, on the gloves, all over the place, all over the place.

Okay, so Marsha Clark said that there was a one in four billion chance that the murderer could have been anybody else, because of DNA, that is, that’s, okay. So because, you know, how DNA is very specific, the one and four billion, I mean, at that time, it’s, it’s, it’s either him, or it’s, or no one, it’s, it’s him or nobody, like, the population of the Earth at the time was 5 billion. But see, at that time, I think that, at the time, they were like, d, DNA is like that magic, magic [bleep], yeah, magic realer, what kind of black magic, as is, but also, they don’t think they realize, like, you have higher odds of winning the lottery while being struck by lightning at the same time than this, to not be O’s blood.

Like, that’s how the probabilities are, that crazy. So that’s, uh, what I thought was one thing, they didn’t really take the weight of it, you know what I mean, like, it should have, was it even presented? Yeah, okay, it was, but at the time, like I say, is, just imagine you’re hearing DNA for the first time, yeah, and you’re like, I don’t understand, and they don’t, they don’t realize that it’s like, it’s so specific. Yes, yes, because literally, I’m saying, like, your odds of winning the Powerball are, like, I think it’s like one in 380 million, yeah, it’s insane, and this is one out of 4 billion.

Yeah, and honestly, honestly, I bet the only place that anybody ever heard of DNA at that time was from Jurassic Park movie. Oh yeah, it’s in the Amber, it’s in the mosquito. I’m the, I’m the DNA guy, DNA worm, I took a frog, do you know, you put it together. My favorite part is, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the shaving cream, system failed, system, go on to your, that’s the best line in, in cinema history, hold on to your butts. So anyways, I, I thought that was a big point, no, just, you, the possibility. The next one is the glove that was soaked in blood, it was just a bad decision to have OJ try the gloves on, do you know what I mean, because they already had his DNA in the gloves, so you don’t need to prove anything further, it’s one in four billion chance, you know what I mean.

So then, they’re like, okay, so then the gloves are tried on, and then, then visually, you go, oh, it doesn’t fit, and then you go… Okay, well, DNA doesn’t matter, right? Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, it doesn’t make sense, but it, no, no, yeah, back then it makes sense, like, we have your fingerprints on the gun, but the gun doesn’t really fit in my hand. Really? Nice [bleep] fingerprints of [bleep], doesn’t really fit. So, and that’s the whole, glove don’t fit, you must have quit, you know, the jingle. You know, I feel like we were on to something there, like, the jingle took hold.

Remember, we were talking about it, like, two EP? Yeah, and it just became like this song that everybody just jingles. That’s why they keep doing them, cu they [bleep] work, sticks in your head, if you rhyme anything, you rhyme anything, people remember that [bleep]. Oh, oh, oh, Ry o, auto parts, auto parts, ow. Okay, the next, can’t forget that. The next, the next big thing was, they just never found the knife. That’s true. And that’s, there’s actually a stat, but there is a real stat that the odds of getting a conviction for a murder without the murder weapon dramatically drops, I think it drops by like 60% without having the murder weapon.

Oh wow, that makes sense, that makes sense. So what do you think? Okay, the scenario of OJ did it, right? Yeah, what did he do with the knife, you know, his timeline, you know, where he was at all moments, all the way leading up to the next day, right? Remember, he, he was in his room, he took a shower, the, the limo driver, he flew Chicago. So he must have dumped it, he’s, of course he must have dumped it somewhere, but where? Like, Chicago, he didn’t take it on the plane. Yeah, exactly, you’re not going to take it on the plane, maybe it’s 95, this is pre, exactly, that, H, that’s a very good, that’s very good point, Sean.

Do you think he got, maybe it’s like in his limo somewhere? I think he could have, I think he just dipped it on the way, on the way to the airport, maybe on the highway, probably just flicked it off the high, like, no one would ever, no one would ever think, about in his bag, yeah, put in his bag, and he got out of the, yeah, throw in the trash can, boom, done, and then it’s just at an airport. Yeah, LAX, biggest airport on the planet, literally, at the time, at the time, before Atlanta. So, in addition to the, the, the, the weapon, he even said it, so, he, somebody commits those murders of that magnitude, yeah, of that magnitude, they would be covered in blood.

So his clothes never found? Well, see, that’s the thing, is, so it’s the knife and the clothes, yeah, because there would be blood, like, if you cut someone’s head, obviously you, the, the main, there’s two main arteries that go on either side of the, of the throat, which obviously pump blood to the brain, they call it arterial spes, obviously arterial spray, cuz it’s obviously an artery, but you would bleed out instantly, it would be four lers of blood everywhere, and 4 lers is a lot of blood, it’s a [bleep] shitload, it’s not droplets, no, it’s, it’s, it’s [bleep]. So that’s the hole in the prosecution, because if there’s leaders, where are the leaders on the clothes, on the killer?

Well, he did, they, I understand that, that is the hole. Yeah, obviously he showered, for sure, yeah, I mean, there’s one thing, there, water rines away the blood, yeah, but where’s the clothes? And then the clothes, the clothes, the knife, so he could have done, at the same moment, same time, he’s got a bag, he’s got a dirty bag, just, like, pop in the trash can, and, and it’s easy, go to LAX, put in a trash can, no one’s like checking the [bleep] trash there. No, hell no, it’s true. There’s a, a funny theory, it’s not really a conspiracy theory, but if you watched some of the videos when OJ returned to Brentwood, uh, Kardashian grabs a bag, and it’s considered to be OJ’s suitcase, and he’s on video, cuz everybody, all the paparazzi were watching him, and he was just walking around with his back bag, and nobody ever figured out where the bag went.

O, so the theory is that Kardashian had the bag. I don’t, and he got rid of it. But Kardashian, I feel like is the good guy. I don’t, yeah, I think that, I don’t think that he would, like, make himself complicit in it. Yeah, obviously being his lawyer, and he has the client privilege, and I’m sure that OJ would tell him things that, you know, obviously wouldn’t, but when you do that, he’s actually making himself complicit in the murder, and part of, yeah, he becomes, becomes an accessory to that murder. I just don’t think he would do that. No, I think so either. So he got, so he got rid of it on the way to Chicago, Chicago, that’s what I think, I think that’s, that’s the most plausible.

Okay, because you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t, you know, get rid of it at your own house, that’s stupid, they’re, I wouldn’t even do it with the limo driver. Oh no, I think it’s got to be a bag, it’s not just the knife, oh no, it’s clothes, it’s pants, shirt, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, clearly not shoes though, got, keep those. No, he dumped the shoes. I thought you said, you was, was on the picture, was before, where it showed him owning the shoes. Okay, I thought he was after, I was like, got to keep the shoes too. Oh, okay. So yeah, it had to be a bag, it a bag, it a bag, yeah, yeah.

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You can share the show with friends and family. Okay, thanks a bunch, everybody, now back to the show. All right, well, there you go, that’s a big, the other part is, OJ didn’t really have any wounds, now he had a cut on his hands. Yeah, you had to cut on his hand, but think about it. Okay, now let’s think about it, Goldman was a claimed third degree black belt or whatever. I understand, put up zero fight. I mean, we, we don’t know that, know, we don’t know, but enough to know, wounds, first of all, on OJ. Well, first of all, Goldman was what, like, maybe, maybe like a buck 50, yeah, soak and wet, maybe 160, maybe, I’m sorry.

Yeah, you have, like, great military training, but you put, like, not military, sorry, karate training, you’re in karate, you know, karate is not a super combat sport, you know. Yeah, so, like, you, you take, you take a man enraged and who’s giant [bleep] strong as an ax, and, and, if, if the idea is, is that he came mid the killing, then he’s already adrenalin up. Oh, and, and he’s got a knife, and this guy’s probably scared, he’s not, you go in his blood [bleep], oh [bleep], he’s not going to be, remember, remember the choke hold? Oh yeah, remember the choke hold, and cut, cut, cut, yeah, he got stabed like 30 [bleep] times.

Yeah, so there, no time for karate, how’s he going to, yeah, how’s going to karate his way out of that, how’s he going, inflict any wounds on him, being behind, being in front of him? All right, and also, OJ literally made a living off of being hit by extraordinarily large men at high speed, right? Yeah, so if there was any kind of wound, it would have been, like, okay, maybe he punched him in the ribs or something, right? See that, yeah, so Ron had bruises on his hands, um, but OJ had one bruise on his body, and the cut on his finger. Well, see, I don’t expect Nicole to, to, to put up, it, I mean, there’s, there’s no resistance, cuz he’s just going to overwhelm her, also, it’s, also it’s somebody, you know?

Yeah, and so you’re not going to expect that, right, your, your husband, you’re not expect him to, like, “oh, stabed me 50 times and cut my,” off. She was probably stabbed before she knew what was happening, to be honest. But it’s, but, like, let’s just be honest, Ron’s not like [bleep] Jon Jones, yeah, like, “oh, trying to die,” OJ, I’m, hope, you know what I mean, I would wish OJ, because OJ would be dead and John, he be, hey, sorry, this, what happened. All right, and the cut is debatable, we don’t know, but it’s also, it doesn’t seem like it was on, but it was pretty big, but it’s on the outside of his hand, so it’s a weird place to be cut, if you’re holding a knife, you would think, maybe if the knife slip, it cuts the inside, of, it’s almost like nobody got a hold of that knife other than OJ.

Yeah, but it, it just seems, it does seem like an awkward place for a cut. It’s definely, if you’re, so if you’re choking someone, right, and you’re stabbing them, like, might get, maybe you slip a little bit, like, I guess you could slip, I mean, I guess, I’m just saying, it’s, it’s not a typical place, you would think it would be on the side part. Yeah, okay, all right, so, I, I agree with that. Yeah, okay, all right, so then, the other, obviously, major, major hole is, the detectives that worked on the case were just idiots, absolute racists too. Yeah, so I mean, that’s just a major, there’s not really a lot to talk about it, because, you know, we already went over it a lot, but, you know, that’s a big thorn in the side…

Of the prosecution is racist witness and racist people who were conducting the investigation. And I think that was, yeah, and that was, I don’t want to say it’s bad luck, but it was pretty much just bad luck, it’s like the worst, def, it’s the worst possible, derailed the whole, well, not the whole thing, but yeah, it was definitely part of what derailed. Well, the fact that the lead guy, the lead detective on the case, who was at both scenes, right, was the most racist dude, like, on the [bleep] plan, like the grand wizard of, like, the clan, it’s like, it’s just Terri, it just, it, it, inst L, makes the entire investigation not creditable, not credible.

Yeah, instantly, like, it brought it down the path of conspiracy theory. Exactly, 100%, it was a plan. Exactly, but I don’t know why, it’s, it’s not like OJ was some visceral figure in the black community, it’s not like it’s like MLK, and they’re framing him for murder, that would make sense, yeah, you know, but it does, it does put a lot of, it doesn’t look good at all. Yeah, that it, not look, just doesn’t look good. Okay, cool. So those are, like, what I considered to be the big, how they lost, how the prosecution lost, but those were the major points of the case. I mean, there’s more things and little things, but the overall, if they had, those the major things, major things.

Yeah, I, I, yeah, I do think that’s, like, they just, they just [bleep]. Like, it is frustrating, I, like, with, with just watching Forensic Files and CSI, I could have literally, I could have open and shut cased this [bleep] like, with no formal legal training, I could have slam dunked this [bleep]. Right, okay, so let’s talk about some conspiracy theories now, finally. It took us four hours, a, g us, four hours, four weeks, just to get to this point. So long, okay. So the one that keeps coming up, over and over and over, and it’s got some interest, it’s got a, it pequ, my interest a little bit, and that’s, OJ’s son did it.

Oh yeah, you heard of this? About that, oo, I guess that might, that might explain the DNA part, if it4, billion, that’s, hey, he’s got 13 alals in common with that, that can explain it, because everybody has their own. No, but meaning, since it was one in four billion, like, because he does have, he does have half, going to be close. Okay, like, obviously, this is one and four billion close. No, I, no, this, your, because he does have half, half of his DNA alals are the same as OJ’s, that’s right. So maybe, at this time, back then, it wasn’t, it wasn’t as science, and it was as perfect as it is now, like, now it’s, I can literally take, and you also needed, for example, back then, they didn’t have PCR, which is, what’s that?

PCR is called polymer chain reaction, and pretty much what they do is, when DNA first came out, you had to have a certain amount of sample in order to do it, so now, I can have one [bleep] cell, and so what you do is, you put the, the sample in this, this little bead, PCR bead, and it, it literally replicates the DNA to a usable amount. So you can literally take a [bleep] tiny little thing, and it will replicate it millions of times, and you can have a usable samp. So back then, you needed X amount, you, and if you didn’t have X amount, you ain’t getting [bleep] DNA.

Yeah, like, sorry, it wasn’t as accurate, or whatever, exactly. Saying it’s possible, it’s possible, continue, okay. But you have, uh, you know, you have O, OJ’s son, who’s kind of similar in stature, similar. And how old was his son at this time? Good question. I know, if he was like 12, I’m like, no, he did not do [Laughter] it also worth noting, this is son from his first marriage, right? Oh yeah, with Paula, whatever name was, right? No, remember, I forget, Margerit. Oh yeah, Margarit, Margarit, yeah, Margarit. Yeah, you’re right, no, you’re absolutely right. So Jason was born to the first marriage, right? Yes, Jason was born from the first marriage, he was born in 1970, which would make him, which would make him, 23, 24, yeah?

Right, right, right, so definitely, totally capable, possible, physically could do it. Now, here is the story, and this is from somebody named Bill Deer, and he was a private detective, and he wrote a book, and it was called “OJ is Guilty But Not of Murder.” Oh, and his theory is that Jason was obsessed with Nicole, stepmom, kind of weird, weird, like, hot step, yeah, some weird, whatever, right, and he killed her, obsess. I thought you were going to say, cuz she probably, she, like, no, she like refused him, like, oh, maybe he did the candles, he, like, L the candles in there, he’s like, she comes home, she’s like, “what the [bleep],” he’s like, “I know you’ve been looking at me, girl,” oh my God, she’s like, “leave, sir.” Okay, so here’s the theory, here’s the theory, you remember, they went to the recital, the kid, the daughter’s recital the night before?

Yes. Yeah, okay, so they went to the recital the night before, and then, after the recital, they put together a dinner, of which OJ skipped, yeah, yeah, and OJ went to have a hamburger with KO, oh, that’s right, Liv the actor, he’s the grifter, that’s right, that’s right, that’s right, okay good. So his theory is that they went to the recital, and then they went to dinner together, and then she skipped the family dinner he had planned with OJ, and went to her own dinner at the Goldman restaurant where the guy was. Yeah, okay, yeah, so he was super mad and in a rage, and then he went and saw her, and she was going to sleep with somebody, or had the candles out, oh yeah, and he was like, and then she’s like, “you’re [bleep] up,” you know, he’s, he raged out, he’s, “you’re [bleep] up our family, you’re [bleep],” and then he killed her.

OJ walked in, cleaned it up. Oh, ah, okay, I just, and that’s essentially the theory, and that’s why his, like, OJ’s at the scene, he’s not at the scene, he’s got a couple things on him, blood everywhere, maybe that also explains why he tells in the book, like, “look, I’m just saying, if whoever did it,” Charlie, Char, would have all this blood on him, and, but the, the thing, the only, my only flaw, it’s all circumstantial, there’s no evidence, the only, would he be that angry to almost, be, I know, right, but he also says that he has so much rage, like, he, he, he also says that he has a large history of violent mental illness.

I mean, that’s so arbitrary. I know, like, yeah, I know, but I mean, you know what I mean, that’s his, I mean, in that sense, he wrote a whole book about it. That’s a whole book, I can’t even write a book about my life. No, but in that, in that sense, zodo’s OJ, he has a large history of violently beating his wife, that’s right, repeatedly, he is a charged, yeah, like, person, he’s convicted of beating his wife, beating his wife. That’s true, but I use my hands, anyways, that’s, I’m responsible, I’m responsible, but responsible, but I didn’t touch her. So that’s a, that’s a big theory, I mean, it, it’s, it’s actually a good theory, like, it’s not bad, it’s not, it’s not like super farfetched.

Yeah, no, I just think that, like, that my, my biggest point with that whole thing was just, like, why would he be that angry, yeah, to do that? I could see OJ being that angry, because she thinks, he thinks that she’s [bleep] the waiter, and then he goes full psycho, plus his history, plus his history, but the sun being that pissed over that, yeah, yeah, that’s, that’s my only fl, otherwise, otherwise it’s actually really good, I never, that’s a really good theory, it’s good theory. There’s also a rumor that goes around that she, up with Marcus Allen, remember the running back? Oh, that’s right, yeah, anyways, that’s a whole, she’s got a type, I guess, yeah, and Marcus Allen was like the hot, the new OJ.

Marcus Allen was still playing? Yeah, you know what I mean, he’s still getting the real checks, not the, not the pension checks. Who do you pay for, the, uh, Raiders, I think, or no, and the ch, I don’t remember, I don’t remember, marus was good though, I do remember that, I only know, I know present football, that’s all I focus on, fantasy, I mean I got to check now, just real quick. You’re right, dude, good job. H, wow, would have pulled that one out of, huge dude, like, back in the day, he was definitely huge, like, superstar, big time, 11 with the Raiders, six with Kansas City, damn, long career for a running back too, both, right, 17 years?

That’s crazy, we’re going to edit that in there, 16, bam, bam, I don’t know, I don’t know history, NFL, we’re going to keep that in there, I don’t know, and this is why, why put us, put us, this is why Eric is the editor. We’re like, super rich, why didn’t you get an editor? I don’t need one, like, trust me on this, I’ve got this, no amount of money. Anyways, all right, there you go. Um, okay, so the next one is weird and wild. So in 2012, another conspiracy made the rounds, and it was from a documentary, and it was called “My Brother the Serial Killer,” and the brother of a serial killer named Glenn Rogers, he maintained that Glenn confessed to killing them while he was on death row in Florida.

Here we go, oh my God, here we go, we now, we’re, we’re experts at this, death row, death row conven coer, several episodes that we, multiple murders, multiple confessions, everybody always wants to take credit for it, every, see, they’re already rotting jail, like, waiting to be killed, seven days away, yeah, they just want, you know, they just want the glory out of, I, I don’t even want to hear the rest of it, like, I don’t buy it. And this is why I think OJ did the book, everyone, it’s this weird desperation for relevance. Right, right, right, oh, “I, of course, I killed her.” How’d you kill her, with a gun?

I mean, a knife, a boot? Oh, okay, so I’m just going to read, God, I’m going to read what the, the story is. Yeah, sure, yeah, okay, I’m just not going to listen. Okay, so the Ro, so the Rogers family claims that Glenn called home a few weeks before the murder to say that he was out partying with Nicole, and brenwood, because he’s just a rando, and she’s like, party with me? Yeah, he has receipts that prove he was working in LA at the time. I have receipts, that’s it, right? Okay, cool, so we’re, like, 8 million other people working. So they, they also stated that, after being found guilty of the murder of Tina Marie Cribs, Rogers told them that he’d been hired by OJ to steal expensive earrings from Nicole Brown’s condo, and if she got in the way, Keller, I mean, I’m, that’s the, that’s the theory, that’s what he said on his death row.

And what’s, what’s this guy’s name, Clay Rogers, Clay Kay Rogers is the brother, and the serial killer is named Glenn Rogers, and he was a serial killer, I was like, what, his name, Charlie, Charlie, rers, be honest, Glenn Rogers was the serial killer. Now here’s the problem with it, right, is, he claimed to have murdered 70 people. Okay, this guy’s just, he’s just, he’s lost it, he’s, this guy claimed, or, or was he? No, I, charged for this, he was only charged for much less, like, much less, one. So I, it’s all circumstantial, and it’s one of those stupid psychos, like, just want to take credit for everything.

Yeah, I can’t, the only time you can ever trust that, when they’re like, here’s where the bodies are buried, and, and then they find him, they’re like, “oh [bleep], he’s telling the truth,” but like 90% of the time it’s like [bleep] [bleep]. Yeah, he just wants to be, like, known and famous. Yeah, he’s gonna, although I don’t put, we find out later that OJ has a tendency to hire people to go take stuff out of rooms, and you, you know what I mean, like, he does, he does hire people to go steal [bleep], he, he hired muscle, he went there himself to take that [bleep].

That’s true, that’s true, that’s true. He was also, why would he be, take the earrings and kill her? Yeah, just in case she get in the way, kill her, make sure she’s dead. Yeah, at that point, I don’t know what his financial situation is, at that point. Oh, at that point he was rich. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, so, like, why did he need, I bought her a pair of Jordans, you got to get those back, I’m going to need those go, P it, give me the, T 3 cash, Jordan’s going to be really good, I guarantee it. All right, well, that’s that one. Okay, so here’s, here’s the outrageous one, you ready for the outrageous one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m ready. OJ did it because he was being mind controlled by the CIA. Oh my God, MK Ultra, it, and why did the CIA want her killed? Conspiracy theorists say that the football star had been subject of the CIA’s MK Ultra experiment, right, which is, if you don’t know, the MK Ultra experiment, it was a, we’ll do anep, should, it’s a CIA controlled thing where they were trying to get people to do things and see how far they could go, by giving people drugs to do it, it’s not even about her, it’s about, can we control this guy? Oh, maybe it’s, oh, can we make someone kill their wife, right, like, maybe it’s an experiment, I wonder what we could get him to do.

So, it, adherence to this theory say that at the time of the murders, OJ was one of those people being controlled by the CIA or the Illuminati, and in hopes to start the race war, and the race riots. But, but, once again, very similar to the conspiracy of the Manson Murders, and the Manson, you know, the, I do know that, pretty much Manson was, like, was one of the MK Ult, but granted, Manson’s actually [bleep] insane, like, it makes more sense for him, cuz he’s like lost, he’s like insane, he fully lost, you get some LSD and, like, set him loose, but zero evidence. But it’s also, like, right, most of the people, but if you’re good at your CIA job, there would be zer, but even, no, but even on, no, but even on the MK Ultra thing, it’s like, there was the people that were involved with it, there was always the residual effects of the LSD, and they were [bleep] up, they were all [bleep] up afterwards, and there’s no, to be [bleep] up, they can’t, yeah, there, for the rest of their lives, whereas OJ’s sipping [bleep] my ties, eating [bleep] cheeseburgers, talking, talking about the latest [bleep] Heat game, and you know what I mean, honestly, he’s doing, like, commentary on his Twitter, so that’s, so that’s what I’m saying, he just doesn’t show any residual effects, that otherwise, I just, why him, like, does seem, it does seem farfetched.

Yeah, yeah, OJ perfect. Now, have you heard, the, we’re going to do another, we’re going to do episodes on this, which is Robert Kennedy getting killed by Siran Siran? Oh yeah, siren siren claims that he blacked out and he has no memory. Yeah, and that’s a political assassination, that’s a little bit different, that’s a little more of the CIA. That’s more CIA on it. Yeah, cuz that’s a, a hefty goal that was accomplished. Yeah, not, not like, kill your wife over, and it wasn’t, nobody wins, and, no, no offense to Nicole, but Nicole wasn’t anybody really politically, she wasn’t running for president, yeah, or anything, other than really just Nicole living her good life, you know what I mean.

So yeah, yeah, all right, there you go. All right, next one, then. Another one is that OJ didn’t do it, and it was a case of mistaken identity. So, one of the lawyers, what, one of OJ’s lawyers was named F. Lee Bailey, and he was part of the Dream Team, okay, and he said that he thought a theory, he wrote a 20,000w essay on his website, and it said, it was a less dramatic theory of who was responsible, because the Dream Team scrapped a number of potential witnesses who could have testified in his defense, according to Bailey, the defense feared that calling more witnesses would lead to a mistrial.

Oh, he could be tried again. Yeah, so one such witness was a neighbor named Tom Lang, who would have testified that he saw Nicole Brown Simpson talking to two strange men outside her condo the night of the murders. They’re like Jehovah’s Witnesses, who knows. In an interview with Associated Press, Bayy said that he suspects the two men were drug dealers who killed Nicole in a case of mistaken identity. Oh, they thought, like, she was somebody else, and, like, “where our [bleep] cash?” Yeah, he swears that he will go to his grave defending Simpson for the charges against him. He said, “so long as I am alive, there will be one person, aside from Simpson himself, who knows from the evidence that he did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson.” And Ronald could have been trying to buy some drugs, and then, you know, or, or she could have been regularly buying drugs from these guys, and then they were, hey, [bleep], you owe us some money, like, true.

I just don’t know why this guy’s goingon to go to his grave, being, “OJ didn’t do it because I saw her talking to two guys.” I know, if he would, he wasn’t called, he wasn’t called, thing is, and if you were him, you probably wouldn’t want to, you know, speak out about it, like, this guy is one of the most hated guys, you’re going to, you’re going to, I wouldn’t want to be in the spotlight. I’m not, I’m not saying why he didn’t test, I’m saying, like, they, they didn’t actually call him, to call, I’m saying, they didn’t call him to, no, I’m saying, like, why did he, why is he, like, “I’ll go to my grave defending OJ,” he, talking about the, the lawyer, the lawyer said, the lawyer said that.

Oh, okay, I thought, I thought this was the guy who just saw her talking to two dudes. I’m like, why is this guy going to go to, I’m like, you just saw her talking to two random dudes, bro, like, watch attack happen. No, the lawyer, saying like, look, that we had this witness, and we didn’t want to put him on there, in case there was a mistrial or whatever, right, but understand, and, and the witness, like, I understand why he didn’t come forward, I wouldn’t, dude, [bleep] no, I didn’t see [bleep], I didn’t see nothing [bleep] it, but I mean, it doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t, it could have been anybody, it could have been her, it’d be different, it’ be different if there was a witness to the attack.

So, so where did the theory about they were drug dealers come from? That’s just what he said, cuz she was doing drugs, because they’re black, yeah, this guy’s racist, actually, you know, if, if I was an investigative reporter or whatever, I would want to know what the toxicology report on, that’s right, on Nicole. Yeah, I mean, that, if they did one, well, I mean, yeah, I mean, they might, they probably didn’t, cuz, they, well, her head’s cut off, so that was, like, right in line with the DNA [bleep], like, n, that’s some new [bleep], like, we’re not testing, what is this, toxicology, this is [bleep].

So there’s that one, I don’t know, I mean, it’s just one, wi, the problem with that one is, there’s nothing else there except for one witness who never testified, who didn’t really see anything special, you just saw her talking to two guys, I don’t know who the two guys are, and how does that explain the footprint, how does that explain the OJ’s blood being there, the glove, none of it, nothing, nothing. Yes, this [bleep]. Yeah, okay, that one’s [bleep]. Next, also, it could have been OJ and AC calling. I know, he, he’s looking at the back of their head, doesn’t look like OJ’s, back of his head could, o, and his son, you know, you never know, and maybe they hid an argument that they did have, because I don’t know, you know what I mean, who knows, maybe that’s why they didn’t call him, the, St, like, don’t testify, please, shut up.

So then, the last real one that has any weight to it is the CTE. Oh, that OJ had CTE? What is that? C, CTE is the, the concussion situation with the NFL, and CTE is, is it’s incopy, there you go, so it’s chronic traumatic enop, incopy, incopy, and for those of us that may not know, just hypothetically, like, people don’t know, like, what does that mean? So it’s, okay, so in the NFL, in the NFL, there’s a lot of, there was a lot of research done on, on players getting concussions and their brain swelling. Yeah, it’s like, you, multiple traumatic brain injuries, and, and they would start to develop depression, rage, like Junior Se, like, J, kill himself, [bleep] start out ofwhere your mental andever totally, it’s a real thing, it’s actually real thing.

Yeah, and so the idea is, is that you play football for 20 years, yeah, you have concussions, five back, and back when he played, there was no concussion protocol, no nothing, it’s like, oh, you get some W, like, you’re playing, you better get back the [bleep] in there. Yeah, if anything, they had like paper helmets, right, like paper. But I mean, I think that’s pro, that’s probably the most plausible out of all of them, yeah, or at least it contributed to him raging. Of course, I’m not saying, doesn’t justify his actions, but I’m saying that could have definitely been a contributing factor, he just saw, and he’s [bleep], snaps, and he’s like, “[bleep] it, you’re all dead, I’m killing you now.” Yeah, yeah, okay, I think that’s, prob, that’s, I believe that one, yeah, which still leads to him doing it.

Here’s, 100%, he’s still, he’s, he, he done did it. Yeah, here’s the problem with CTE, is, they still, the only way to actually fully diagnosis, yeah, is when you’re dead, yeah, and they, they autopsy your brain, so there’s no way for the defense to even, it’s impossible, prove that anything, and there’s no, watch my finger, there’s no, there’s no test, yeah, there’s no test, and they literally have to cut your brain open, and they’re, “oh [bleep], yeah, he was [bleep] up.” Okay, prov, we’ll find out in the future, yeah, this one holds up eventually. Yeah, so there you go, that’s, those are the, the theories, those are the, uh, the side theories, those are, you know, different ide, ideas, different, you know what I mean, what could have happened.

I don’t know, I mean, I, I do think the sun one was interesting. Yeah, I never really knew about that, I thought, I think that’s definitely interesting, I do, I don’t believe it necessarily, yeah, right, right, I, I also didn’t know about it, but I, doing some research for this, and that’s when I found out, I was like, okay, you know, it’s, it’s possible, yeah, possible, but, but it, it’s still leaves, it’s re, you know, it’s not at all close, at all, like, I would never have, like, you have that much rage for your stepmom, you’re like, “I think I’ll behead her.” I know, like, come on, and then I’ll kill this waiter, what, what if, what if she was cheating, or not cheating, but what if he was trying to get them back together?

That’s still not, what, what, 24 year olds, “I’m going to get him back with my dad,” and then when he, when she does it, I’ll kill her. Also, also, it’s the stepmom, I know, it’s not the actual mom, not the actual mom, so if anything, you would try to get your momom, there’s no connection, it’s like, it’s so loose. That’s true, it doesn’t make sense, it’s, well, if you had nothing to do that, Jason, and you’re out there, you know, sorry that you’re even involved, but you know, a theory, we’re just doing our job, Jason, it’s a theory. Yeah, Jason also let his dad open shell companies in his name, so I’m like, you’re not that innocent, buddy, let’s be honest.

Walk away from the fan, that’s your, my, my best advice is to walk away, yeah, your dad sucks, get out of there. Yeah, so there you go, OJ Simpson Saga, I mean, where, where do we stand here? So, what, and I’ll just tell you real quick, present day, where, what is OJ doing today, right now. So OJ, what he’s doing today is, he lives in Orlando, or at least somewhere in the Orlando to Miami range, you know what I mean, big range, it’s like 2 hour range. He’s got about a million followers on Twitter, and he’s got a couple hundred thousand on Tik Tok, and he’s doing, uh, is he pretty active on social media?

Yeah, yeah, on Twitter especially, so he’s doing, like, updates on, especially during the NFL season, he, like, will go, oh, how’s, how are the Bills doing, and, you know, and talk about Brady retiring, and you know what I mean. And so, that whole thing, so he’s, he’s living his life, I don’t, you know, I feel bad for the Goldman’s. Y, me too. Yeah, same, you know, I don’t know. So they’re still, they’re still waiting on 32 and a half million, you know, to come their way, so, exactly, 60, oh, my bad, 60. Now, 60, dude, that’s not even inflation, it’s just like interest, horrible, it must be like half a percent or something.

Yeah, cuz, in, like, inflation was bigger than that, right? Oh, easily, oh, easily, 100%, from 96 to, yeah, you get to think, you’re, you’re adding, you’re adding 3 to 5% a year, for, for 20 years, 100% inflation, like, yeah, yeah. So, so here we are, we’re done, we spent four hours on this OJ, what do you think? We spent longer than the jury? Oh, oh my God, we did, we’re about the same amount of time. No, we spent way longer, cuz we, yeah, oh, all the, yeah, everything, yeah, we sp a lot longer, you guys just get the edited version. True, trust me, we might release the unedited version for Patreon members.

Oh gosh, but anyways, what do you think, Eric? Um, uh, I think he did it. Yeah, I think he did it, and I think, I think all the holes that exist are just parts that we don’t know what happened, like, so there are things that don’t make sense, like, like, where’s the knife, and where’s, where’s the cut, and, and it’s because we don’t have all of the story. Exactly, he, for all we know, he could have cut himself throwing the knife away. Yeah, absolutely, or he could have, he could have surprised them, and they were stabbed before they even could fight back. Oh yeah, he, he does, he does the guy first, boom, boom, and she’s, so nobody, there’s no defense wounds because it was all surpris crazy strong guy, and then he walked away and took a shower, and he could have literally burned the clothes.

Oh, easily, you know, there’s an hour window of, we don’t know what he was doing, more than that. No, yeah, hour and a half, maybe even more, and then he goes to Chicago, that’s what I’m saying. So then, when he went to Chicago, there was a way, big, oh yeah, that’s a, 9 hours of, and before they even called him, I’m just saying, if you didn’t want to get on the plane with all that [bleep], you had an hour and a half to get rid of it, before, you, in the shower, uh, at the airport, yeah, they weren’t like hit, they weren’t hitting a shower with [bleep] luminol back then, like, look for blood, and it’s pretty obvious.

I mean, remember when KO said he heard an earthquake, it’s because OJ was walking behind there and he hit the AC unit on accident, that, you know, the AC that juts out, yeah, and, and K’s, like, K’s, you, AC unit, like, the, like the window unit, the unit, and it just sticks out, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he just [bleep] banged into it, and K’s like, “stone,” he, like, “oh my God, [bleep], earthquake, bro.” Yeah, and that’s it, that’s it, you know what I mean, and then, and then he just, he’s a liar, he became a really good liar for his whole life, and he learned how to keep the face of “everything’s fine, man, I love you buddy.” See, the thing about OJ, he’s, he’s, he’s good at that, is crazy, he’s better than a lar, cuz he’s actually not lying, he’s just not saying anything.

Yeah, he’s just really good at not saying anything, and then people don’t ask him additional follow-up questions. Yeah, I don’t know why, he just giv, some answer that says nothing, he’s like, not lying, but not telling the truth, he’s, he figured out how to be in the middle. I know, he’s saying nothing, he’s saying nothing at all, and I mean, I don’t want to, he was a great football player, but, yeah, a lot that means nothing, and nobody really says it much, but I think he’s stupid, I think he’s a stupid person. I mean, clearly not, he got away with murder. That means, like, I mean, I think he’s a low IQ stupid indivual.

Yeah, okay, what makes you say that? Just because of how he acts, and he’s, just because he has no, act stupid, but hey, acting like that on, I know, but he thinks it’s okay to then write a book called “If I Did It.” Well, see, that’s, that’s why, so what’s the word, it’s like, like, inept, well, that, no, it’s not inept, it’s just having, has zero empathy, like, that’s why, that’s what leads me to believe to the CTE thing, that he’s, he’s actually the, like, psychopath, he’s, he’s a sociopath, because he’s like, okay, it’s funny, it’s funny, that’s right, it almost seems like he’s always [bleep] smiling and laughing about it, and about life or whatever, like, everything, there’s videos of him, like, making jokes about stabbing people.

Yeah, it was, he got, he got… Interviewed, and, like, he wanted to play a joke on her, and she opens her door, and he’s like, like, stab, and he’s like laughing, he’s like, like, it’s funny, he’s a sociopath. I think he’s a [bleep] sociopath, I think he doesn’t actually have remorse, because he doesn’t see what he did wrong, he didn’t do anything wrong, what’s the problem, yeah, like, she deserved it, [bleep] it, like, why should I, why should I feel bad. And so, he’s just going to hold it to the grave, he already admitted he did it, that’s why he wrote a book. Yeah, but I mean, that’s a good point, he wrote a book, confession, “if I did,” “if I did,” how was that not a confession?

Error. No, I know, I agree with you, I agree with you, I mean, my God, he, hypothetically recall, I, hypothetically murdering her, like, Jesus. I wonder, I wonder if it’s, in some sick way, it’s a way to feel better about telling somebody, you know what I mean, where you, imag, imagine holding that in, for sure, like, it’s definitely a way for him to, in a weird, in a weird, weird, I think, cuz I think he’s just a gross dude, I think he’s an actual, just gross human, and I think he did that in a way, because it was a game to him, and he’s like, oh great, now I can do this, I can make some money, but it, still be fun for me, I like to write this book and be fun for me.

Yeah, but, but did he make money from that? No, cuz he went to the, eventually he didn’t, he thought he was going to, he thought he was going to, but then he got [bleep] by the gold, shell company. Good on the Goldman for sticking. I know, for 30 years, they, they’re not forgetting, this, not that. No, if you’re a father, like, you’re never, I would have, like, Google alerts on him. Oh dude, 100%, following him. Oh, I’d be a follower, I’d be stalking that [bleep], I’d be stalking that [bleep], I’d be in Orlando, I’d move to Orlando. You’d be in jail, cuz, oh, he’d be dead, I would have killed him, I would have [bleep] murdered him, yeah, and then killed myself, cuz I can’t survive in jail.

100%, I, I, nobody’s [bleep], they a, taking me to jail, [bleep]. I think, um, yeah, I think he did it, and, uh, I think so, I think what happened is, he, he was in a raging whatever with her, and he went over there, and she was going to have a date, I think there was some sort of date scenario going on, and maybe that person never showed up, or they left already, and then homie showed up just to bring the glasses back, this, he, wrong place, wrong time, and he raged, and then he did it, and then killed them both, and then just walked away, and, you know, he’s crazy, in my opinion, you know, he’s crazy, exactly what you’re saying, he walked away from the scene.

Remember that? Remember, they did the, an analysis of his footsteps, his, his gate, g, yeah, he walked. Yes, he walked, he didn’t run, he, like, m, he didn’t, loing back, walked away. Yeah, he walked away. So yeah, I think, anyways, and then, and then I think the prosecution [bleep] up the case, just royally, they [bleep] ruin, dude, uh, I think it’s, my theory is kind of close to yours, but, like, not that she was going to, you know, be with somebody else, but that she was, you know, she was there, she was going to get together with the, with OJ. No, no, no, wa, the, wa, Ron.

Exactly, and then OJ kn, knew about it, and that’s when, he, that would be a clean explanation, right, he knew it was happening, and so he was waiting, waiting for him to get there, so he catch, catch him in the act. Yeah, he found out, he got enraged, so he goes over there, and he’s [bleep], this [bleep], this guy over me, he has a history of being, you know, this person that gets enraged and beaten his wife, yeah, it’s true, so he just, you know, he just went over the top, and then he’s just [bleep], and it just kept going over, you know. Here’s, here’s what I, I think, that I’m a little different from both of you, but, I, well, well, just to, just acknowledge his, I, I get it, yeah, makes sense, makes, there’s nothing that says it didn’t happen, well, that, there’s nothing that says that, you know what I mean, I’m just saying, like, it, and then, you know, just to finish off, like, you know, yeah, he, the, the prosecution [bleep] it up, yeah, they just totally, you know, screwed it up every which way possible that they could.

Yeah, and, uh, and he got away with it. Yeah, and money shows that he spent 5 million on his defense, which, back in the day, is like a billion dollars, so it just kind of shows, so, like, so much money, if you’re him, you’re going to, I know, but I’m just saying that helped. Yeah, that definitely helped. Okay, you, competent lawyers, I thought you were trying to say something like, that proves whatever, anyway. No, yeah, 100%, like, he, he had the, the Dream Team, yeah, the dream, it was the Dream Team. Yeah, so now you’re going to, you going to, so the aliens came down there from the pyramids, and the pyramids came down, now, so the employees, inside joke between me.

So anyways, no, I think that, I, I, I think that OJ was watching the house, I think OJ suspected that she was sleeping with somebody else, I think it was wrong place, wrong time for Ron, I think he came over to return, I think it was an innocent thing, like, he knew her, and they were friendly, but I don’t think she was [bleep] him, just enough to do a favor. Yeah, I think, I think he just came over, I think OJ was, I think OJ was watching the spot, cuz I think he was just psycho jealous, and then sees Ron get there, and he’s, “I knew it,” and it’s like it validates all of his psychosis.

Okay, and then he goes and he confronts them, and I think, I think there’s no defensive wounds because I think Ron was probably, like, “hey man, like, this, not what you look like, I’m not, I’m not here, I have nothing to do with this, I’m just,” he, okay, yeah, and then [bleep], dead. And then he, and then he goes and gets her, because it said, didn’t she, there was something about the stairs, she fell, and then she had no dirt on her feet, so meaning, she didn’t really, out in, yeah, I think she maybe tried to get, anyways, that’s what I think happened with that.

But my, my weird, my other little conspiracy thing that I didn’t bring up until this point in time, I think, I think that the prosecutors [bleep] it up on purpose. Wow, why? Because of what would happened with the whole Rodney King thing, and then the fact that there was riots because they didn’t prosecute, they didn’t prosecute, da, basically, the da didn’t prosecute the, the cops that beat the [bleep] out of Rodney King. So this was their, like, their way of, like, making amends, because it’s virtually impossible to [bleep] that case up, like, how do, it’s, it’s, it’s, too, how do you [bleep] up everything about.

They messed it up? No, it’s, it’s not that, this, they made one mistake, they made, are you talking about the Roden King case, or the, no, I’m, I’m talking about, o, case. Okay, yeah, you h, because you realize that the da won’t even prosecute, most of the times, they won’t prosecute crimes that they can’t, they don’t think they can win. Yeah, yeah, because they don’t want to [bleep] up their record. Yeah, so, and they had a [bleep] an alley slam dunk, like, highlight re, easy peasy, and they [bleep], and they [bleep] up all these things. So I think it was, hey, like, we got to do something to chill the city down, give them a win, we’re going to have to [bleep] this up, really, and we’re going to have to blow, weren’t they already chill by then?

[bleep] No, you, you said it, two years, two, three years, yeah, like, think about the, I’m just saying, think about the George Floyd riots, what, you know, would those last, maybe, let’s say give it a year, months, sixth, let’s just say a year. No, but look how that changed, look how that changed the United States though. Oh, for sure, I’m say, and still, like that, so they want to be, oh look, we give a [bleep], oh, we’re not, we’re not, we’re not, we’re not racist, so I can formulate it. So what you’re saying is, the da blew the case on purpose, blew the case, pur, because they felt they messed up on the King case?

Yep. So then it made it, because it made the, right, is that what you’re saying, they didn’t want to, like, re, they didn’t want to re, because, dude, they convict it, with what was happening, it was a [bleep] powder keg, if they convict OJ, then, you, could, they were probably, like, looking, like, it’s going to be a [bleep] nightmare. Yeah, it’s like, yeah, yeah, I think you give the da too much credit, but, but I like your theory, I mean, I like your theory, I think they just messed up, you know what I mean, but, how do you mess up everything, I, I don’t know how they, I don’t know, yeah, how do you mess up?

I know, I know, it’s, if they made, if they made one mistake, I get it, two mistakes, fine, mist, the whole case is a mistake, there’s not really anything that was done, l, it’s like, we have a picture of OJ holding the knife, like, “oh, we lost the picture,” [bleep], it was crazy too, it wasn’t like they put rookies up, no, these are veteran, that’s my point, prosecutors, it’s like, strange, strange, you understand, they don’t try cases that they don’t think they can win, and they, you can’t [bleep] something up that bad, there’s, that’s what I’m saying, you know, there’s, like… The concept of, you know, there are, you know, there aren’t really no coincidences.

Yeah, it’s kind of like that, it can’t be coincidence, it’s not Murphy’s Law, everything that goes wrong will go wrong, because, like, if that was the case, the [bleep] Earth would explode. Yeah, cuz that’s what could go wrong, and as get hit, is we die. Yeah, so I, I, that’s what I think happened, that’s my, that’s my take. All right, that’s my hot, hot take. Okay, but we all are on the same, we’re all on the same OJ? Oh, 100%. T. Yes, without a shadow of a doubt, maybe with some other circumstances thrown there. Another thing is, like, I do think, I do think someone helped OJ on the clean up.

Go, I do think someone help, o, the clean up, maybe the, I think maybe Charlie. Yeah, who was Charlie, a drug dealer? Maybe somebody definitely helped him in the cleanup, like, with his own [bleep], but other than that, or at least knew something. Oh yeah, maybe they weren’t there, but, yeah, you’re right, maybe they clean up, like, hey, so much blood, take, take my shirt, take my pants, take this, take this bag, maybe they even tell them, “what it was, take the bag and just go, like, let me, the plane, go dump it in Sacramento, burn it, you know, like burn it, go burn it, yeah, burn it, burn it,” McDonald’s, don’t ask any more questions, do it, here’s AK, yeah, and a mustache.

S. Sounds like an AC Collins kind of job, 200 bucks, don’t ask questions, just take it, you got it, I’ll be, I’ll be right back with the Bronco, pick you up. No offense, AC, but, AC, here’s my question, for full offense, is, why, the only reason I can think that you took OJ on the chase is if he had a gun to your head, otherwise why would you do it. I don’t think he had a gun. I know, no, he, he wanted to help him because they were friends, and he, you know, and help him, what, run? Yeah, yeah, that’s what it was, because of the disguises, all that stuff, yeah, and the money, he’s ride or die, he was, said that probably four or five, and then, you, like, it’s your homie forever, right, since, like, high school.

Yeah, high school, yeah, they were high school stars. So he’s your friend from high school, you know, and, and he, he made it big, he probably took you with, you know, took you to the club, exactly, he’s like one of the crew, exactly, started from the bottom, he ain’t no snitch, he ain’t no snitch, I ain’t no snitch, [bleep] the C, [bleep] the police. Yeah, I wonder if they, I wonder if they remain friends, probably, probably, I don’t know, if I was AC I’d be like, we ain’t friends no more, [bleep] yeah, this was your last favorite card, yeah, like, we’re done, this, don’t call my mom anymore.

Burning the bag was the last one, that’s it, last straw, more, yeah, yeah, melting down the knife, the bag, that burnt the Campbell’s back. Well, there’s one other thing that just kind of bugs me, so here we are now, we’re in 2023, and he’s still out there. Yeah, yep, he’s still living his life, and so, I understand, and I get it, he was acquitted by US court, and that’s fine, but here’s what I do feel like I’m obligated to say on behalf of the Goldman’s and Nicole, and all that is, we don’t need to follow him. Yeah, we don’t need to support him, he’s free.

Well, I’m not going to go, we’re not going to go arrest him’s free, is what it is, he, we, he won the case, but should he have a million followers on Twitter? [bleep], no, no, that’s, that’s insanity, no, he shouldn’t, right? Qu million on Tik Tok, all his followers, doesn’t mean that they’re supporters. I know, could just be, like, [bleep], like, trying to watch the train wreck, all of them are, they’re just like curious. I mean, kind of like Eric said, on the, on the Flat Earth thing, he, like, exactly, 20%, yeah, exactly, of followers. You’re right, but the people on Flat Earth didn’t butcher somebody.

Yeah, that’s a great point, that’s a really good point, they didn’t cut somebody’s head off, stab a 24y old. Some people, you know, follow Biden or Trump or whatever, like, some of these people, that you’re just like, I just want to see what this idiot says, or whatever. Biden and Trump didn’t cut somebody’s head off. It’s true, it is a little different, it’s a little different, I, your point isn’t wrong, but it’s a little different. Actually looked it up, yeah, Joe Rogan follows OJ Simpson on Twitter, so does, so does, uh, Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast follows OJ, the world’s biggest, both, I love both of them, I think they’re, I think they’re great, well mention people, and super famous in their own right and doing great, but they don’t need to follow him.

Mhm, I don’t, I think it’s so unnecessary, they don’t need to, right, it’s like watching, what you’re really trying to say is, you don’t need to support him, you don’t need to support him. Yeah, and obviously, somebody’s going to say, oh well, coming from the guy who’s doing a podcast on him. Yeah, we’re talking about him cutting people’s heads off, we’re not here trying to support him. Yes, exactly, so that’s all I’m saying, I will freaking tag Joe Rogan and Mr. Beast and tell him, not, you know, but it, like, that’s the point is, you know, let’s, I agree, and I’m going to tag OJ, because it is like, despite, despite, you know, maybe that you follow someone, you don’t, you don’t want to support them, but the way the social media works is, if someone that big is following you, it is flowing views to you if you’re, yeah, especially if somebody, if Joe Rogan followed our podcast, we would be [bleep] huge instantly.

Exactly, exactly, and also, these are just our opinions, yeah, you know what I mean, you know, we’re just three, we’re three guys, three high school diplomas. This is interesting because this is our first one where everybody’s still alive. Yeah, yeah, most of these, most of them, most of the stuff we do are historical, you know what I mean, and so this is just, or theoretical, yeah. So, all right, there you go, I hope you learned something, uh, I hope you got an opinion of your own, yeah, and, you know, what’s cool is, like, a lot of you guys email us in and give us your opinion.

So yeah, we love that, absolutely, and if you have the, we’ll even, we’ll make a little addendum to the next episode that we do, obviously won’t be OJ, but we, we’ll, we’ll lit, we’ll give you a little shout out of, of your theory, if, if it’s legit. If it’s like a stupid one, I’m sorry, I’m not going to say it, yeah, but if it’s a legit one, yeah, ab, I’ll [bleep] say it for you, I promise, I’ll put it on blast, and then we’ll go into the next episod. Absolutely, and I have one more thing to say, which is, to OJ, and if he didn’t do it, if he didn’t do it, then wouldn’t you put every resource you have into finding, finding a legitimate person who did do it, if you loved your wife so much, you loved her so much, wouldn’t you want to find the killer, ex-wife?

Well, he, he said he couldn’t have killed her, cuz he loved her so much. Yeah, I’m just saying, wouldn’t, there’s nothing, there’s no action, there’s no theory, shows that he’s trying to, he’s not tried at all, zero, zero effort in 30 years, the opposite, actually, yes, the opposite. So that’s all I’m saying, I will give you, the door is open for you to go, okay, I’m going to prove my innocence, I’m find, find out who did it, and so go out there and [bleep] do it, man. Yeah, that’s right, there you go, I like that. All right guys, next episode, peace. Hey guys, hope you enjoyed the show, if you want to reach out to us, please email us at infothe conspiracy podcast.com, you can check us out on Instagram at a Conspiracy Podcast, also, don’t forget to subscribe, you can catch a new podcast almost every week, just hit the little subscribe button at the top, it’s a plus sign, we love show ideas, corrections, hate mail, thanks a bunch.