So for today’s episode we have the Bermuda Triangle. Oh, it used to be the Hot Hot Hot Topic. I think when we were in like elementary school, it’s like one of the OG conspiracies. Oh yeah, you’re right, you’re right, it was the original. One of, one of the original. That’s when people were really starting to be what the [ __ ] going on, I feel like. I feel like this is a 60s conspiracy, you know what I mean. Like I don’t know why I’m British. I think it’s before we really made travel super, it’s like we don’t even think about it anymore. I’m like oh flight, God damn it, it’s going to take me four hours to get across the globe.

It was the time of Amelia Earhart, and you know she went down, and people were like is this really safe. I think maybe it was like the auto industry was like planes and boats are not safe, only cars are safe. That’s the conspiracy, you know what, maybe it is. Kind of get started with the I guess so to speak the history of the Bermuda Triangle. Okay so it’s actually known as the Devil’s Triangle, kind of interesting. They’re probably trying to make it sound more ominous, the Devil’s Triangle. Do you know why it was Bermuda, like why did they get the name, you know what I mean, like Miami Triangle. I brought a graphic.

So pretty much the Bermuda Triangle is about a 500,000 square mile zone. It’s in the western part of the North Atlantic, and so it pretty much touches, it’s like from Miami to San Juan Puerto Rico and then to Bermuda. They probably use Bermuda because it just sounds the best. Yeah, so the Miami Triangle, the Puerto Rico Triangle, it just probably has a good jingle. You know, on the OJ episodes, jingle. Jingle is everything, like the Bermuda Triangle, once it catches. What’s that Bermuda song, there’s a lot. Bermuda, Bermuda, I want to take it to. That must have been after probably that song probably. And he knew the jingle was going to hit. There’s your jingle right there. I’m just trying to get my bearings, yeah of course.

So obviously it’s known because there were a number of aircrafts and ships that would disappear in mysterious circumstances and people were like what’s happening here. So it really started to kind of arise in the 20th century, well mid 20th century, in terms of it being like a thing. But most reputable sources think it’s [ __ ], they’re all like it’s explainable, it’s not a thing. There’s actually been reports of bizarre activity in that particular region leading back to the days of Christopher Columbus. There were reports of unusual compass activity traveling through that zone when they’re going to the new world, the old world. [ __ ] live there already, it’s not really that new.

But the triangle would later earn like a reputation as a dead zone for planes and ships, and there would just be a lot of weird disappearances, like all the controls would go funky and can’t find way, weird things. And then the fact that a lot of these crashes, they couldn’t find like the wreckage or anything, just literally vanish. So essentially the summary of what the Bermuda Triangle is is that it’s an area where just everybody crashes. Is that really what it is. It’s yeah, they call it like a dead zone, an area where weird things would occur and people would disappear. Okay, yeah, sucks. It’s kind of like anywhere where something bad happens, like this place [ __ ], this is the devil’s. That’s what I thought when I was little when I first started knowing about this. I’m like oh you go in there and you just disappear into the void.

I think I had the same concept, right. I’m going the long way to Puerto Rico. It’s not a black hole, that’s kind of what I thought, but like the plane just vaporizes, right. I don’t know exactly, you go into another world, dimension, Stargate, but it’s the ocean, the Star Ocean. This is where Epstein’s Island is probably. It’s actually in the statistical center of the triangle. Stay tuned for that next episode, oh my God, we have to do that. We keep talking, I know, but it’s so gross. So anyway, one of the biggest known stories which really got people talking about it and really sparked the kind of like intrigue into it is what’s called Flight 19.

So in 1945 there was five US Navy aircraft and they were known as Flight 19. They were on like a training mission kind of flying through the area. This is World War II, right, 45. They were actually torpedo bombers, so it was five torpedo bombers that were on a training mission and they got lost and they vanished into the triangle, and they’ve never found the people and they never found the planes. So there was 14 crew members, all were never found. They suspect that the pilots kind of ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. But I’m like if you’re on a training mission, I think you would check, you qualify for how much gas the plane. That’s the first thing I would check. Oh [ __ ] we forgot to top off, hey guys we’re going on a training mission. Especially five planes, if it was one plane I’m like okay, five planes, 14 crew members. Like who’s in charge of training mission, that’s strange.

So that was like the first thing, but seven years later is when they finally started talking about it. There was a magazine called Fate Magazine. Fate Magazine is actually a US magazine that talks about paranormal activity. I wish it was still around, so if you want to sponsor us, you know. I looked, and the last kind of note, they started releasing like one a month but that was back in like 2012, so I don’t know if they’re still around or not. So they published what they called the sea mystery at our back door, that was the name of the short article by George Sand, and it covered the loss of the planes as well as other planes and ships. So this was kind of the first time it really got brought to light, like hey something’s happening here, and this is obviously in 1952.

So George Sand’s article was pretty much the first kind of layout the triangle, and actually kind of give the area, like okay here’s where the losses took place, and that’s where they kind of created the triangle from. And they were trying to suggest a supernatural element to it, like it’s [ __ ]. They created the term maybe. Did they use the word triangle. No, I will get to that. So then more people started covering it. So in 1962 an issue of the American Legion magazine, this guy named Allan Eckert wrote that the flight leader had been heard saying, and I quote, we are entering white water, nothing seems right, we don’t know where we are, the water is green, no white. It’s weird how that rhymes.

And he also wrote that officials at the Navy Board of Inquiry stated that the planes flew off to Mars, and that just seems like the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard. This guy was probably drunk on the job, he was probably [ __ ] drunken sailor. He had me, I was hooked, and then he Mars, that’s what he says. He says that officials at the Navy Board of Inquiry said that, but that sounds like okay yeah I know that was real. Why do you got to go that deep, like idiots. So that was in 62, so in 64, February 1964 a gentleman named Vincent Gaddis wrote an article called The Deadly Bermuda Triangle. So this was in a pulp magazine, Argosy, pulp magazine. And he said Flight 19 and other disappearances were part of a pattern of strange events in that region. So he was the first to actually coin the term Bermuda Triangle, so Vincent Gaddis gets credit for that one.

So the next year Gaddis expanded this article into a book which he called Invisible Horizons, which is a great name for a book by the way, really sexy name. This is the 60s, called it. That’s why I didn’t [ __ ] on you, you’re kind of right, you might be onto something. There were other writers who started to kind of go on this same vein as Gaddis and they were like yeah this is a good idea. Guy named John Wallace Spencer wrote a book called Limbo of the Lost in 1969. Charles Berlitz wrote the book called The Bermuda Triangle in 74. Richard Winer wrote The Devil’s Triangle also in 74, and then there are many others. They’re all kind of like, really these guys were mainly focused on the supernatural elements of the triangle. Are those books generally based on this Army crew or Navy crew, those five. No, they’re based on Flight 19 as well as other ones.

I’m actually going to start getting into some of the more famous kind of incidents that’s happened. Obviously there’s other [ __ ] but these are the most well-known ones. So in 1963 there was a tanker ship called the SS Marine Sulphur Queen. I don’t know who names these [ __ ] ships, it’s crazy, Sulphur Queen. I knew a stripper with that name. No I didn’t, fart on you, you know sulphur smells like a fart. And coming to the stage is Sulphur Queen. She hasn’t showered in a week. So Sulphur Queen sank near Key West, kind of in that general area. Life preservers and other items were later discovered drifting in the water but the exact cause of that disaster remains unknown and the wreck itself has never been recovered. Interesting how they found like life preservers, I guess they float.

So another one is the HMS Atalanta. Well Atlanta, it’s not this Atlanta. So it was a sail training ship, it was originally named HMS Juno but they renamed it to the Atalanta. They didn’t think Alaska’s capital was worth it, nope, they’re like [ __ ] that, no one cares, you know, lame Juno. So that disappeared with its entire crew after setting sail from the Royal Naval dockyard in Bermuda and they were going to Falmouth England. So on the 31st of January 1880 is when they set sail. So they presumed it sank because there was a powerful storm that crossed the route that they were going on a couple weeks after they set sail. Cause when you’re doing sailing ships [ __ ] takes forever, just like a lifetime to get anywhere.

But didn’t you say this one took off from Bermuda to England. Yeah, Bermuda to England. But isn’t the triangle between Miami Puerto Rico. But if you were say you were here, you’re still kind of in the triangle, you’re kind of going that way. I think the triangle is more of a guideline, not a right. A lot of the speculation is that, which I’ll get into later, but a lot of the people think that some of these occurrences didn’t happen in the quote unquote triangle, which is why they’re just kind of, it started to be. The triangle followed them, it’s in motion, the triangle’s like a UFO, it just went off, in like five minutes it sunk, what the [ __ ]. In reality it’s probably like an octagon or something, some obelisk, you know, it doesn’t have to be a triangle, the Bermuda rhombus.

I also think it’s just a thing that people think is a thing, it’s not an exact, it old [ __ ] only happens in these exact parameters. So it’s almost like another exercise of a writer created it, of course, you know what I mean, they created the triangle, they created the name, true. And they’re also just using like three random points and they’re just like oh yeah it just sounds. Does it really stop there, like if we went there they’re like what the [ __ ] is this triangle, the point I’m at the point. I think it’s just like a hot vibe to it, they like Bermuda Triangle, like I like Bermuda, triangle’s easy jingle. I mean do you think triangles are scarier than squares. [ __ ] yeah, 100%. Squares are equilateral, they’re even numbers, people hate odd numbers. Aren’t those equilateral, not necessarily, a triangle doesn’t have to be equilateral. Okay, good point, that one looks like it is, very specific, so don’t throw me off with your [ __ ] England [ __ ]. Well technically all squares have to be equilateral otherwise it becomes a rectangle. Oh God this just got so boring, turn it into a math class here, geometry class. Oh sorry I was paying attention in fifth grade, you dude. I did geometry one in high school, did you do geometry.

At some point geometry in Mexico, I’m sorry that was not meant to be racist. They thought that it sank because there was like a powerful storm like I said, they crossed their path. The crew itself was actually composed of a bunch of trainees cause it was a training ship, so it was like a bunch of noobs. So you had a bunch of guys who don’t really know what they’re doing on a ship and then they have a storm, so that makes sense, that could have happened. So they tried to search for evidence and see what happened and it actually got worldwide attention at that time, 1880s, so that’s like hot news. Look at the telegram coming through, breaking news. Decades later they look into it and they’re like oh it’s a victim of the mysterious triangle, and they chalk it up, they just had to put it to something.

Actually the biggest loss of life in history of the US Navy was this next one, USS Cyclops. This was the biggest loss in the US Navy not related to combat, like accidental, not related to combat, it just happened, bad seamanship. There was this USS Cyclops that was carrying a full load of manganese ore. I don’t know what that means. Manganese is a type of metal, it’s like magnesium ore, no that’s not what it sounds, no it’s manganese. Never heard that word, have you heard that word, no, it’s an element. Jesus, you paying attention in high school to manganese, no I went to school to be a chemist, that’s the only reason I know this. I’m gonna make Sean look good this episode, going to look hella good. So we got a chemist and we got Eagle Scout, and what else, just you know got a baseball, I dropped out, like I dropped out, baseball, I did t-ball.

So manganese is a chemical element with the symbol Mn and atomic number 25. It is a hard brittle silvery metal often found in minerals in combination with iron. Manganese is a transition metal with a multifaceted array of industrial alloy uses, particularly stainless steels. So you alloy it with other steels and it makes stainless steel, fridge, yeah exactly, fridge, nice, thank you for that. So they had a full load of that but they actually had an engine out of action, so they’re only operating with like one engine down. So it had a crew of 309 dudes and it went missing without a trace after March 4th 1918, after it departed from Barbados, an island of Barbados. So there’s really no strong evidence in essence to any single theory on what happened, cause nobody survived, there’s nobody to tell the tale.

So people just started making their own independent [ __ ], they’re like oh I think what’s happen, some people blame storm, some thought it might have capsized, some suggested there was a wartime enemy activity in the area and they got [ __ ] shot, even though they weren’t. 1918, so is the World War I going on, I think it was around World War I time. So no idea, or it’s somewhere around that time. It’s interesting, another little tidbit, the Cyclops had two sister ships, the Proteus and the Nereus, they were both actually lost in the North Atlantic during World War II and they were both transporting heavy loads of metallic ore similar to this one. So all these ships just went down. But the other ones also went down in the same area or no. I just think there was like a note, it’s important to note all three of these ships, they were all sister ships, all went down, they’re all carrying metal ore, it’s weird.

And we didn’t have stainless steel fridges for another 50 years, yeah that’s true, I don’t know what to say to that, thank you for that. Refrigerator is out of business now, it set us back big time. I think that’s when the Great Depression happened, the refrigerator business that tanked the stock market. We’re out of manganese, like [ __ ] another manganese ship goes down, stock market crash. I know, I should have shorted manganese. I don’t even think in 1918 they had fridges in homes. I think they did, sounds like a b, what we, they had fridges but in homes. I think I got you on a technicality here. Mass production of domestic fridges began in 1918 when William C. Durant introduced the first home refrigerator with a self-contained compressor, but they were still considered a luxury item because of their price. If it said 1919 I would have got it.

All right so the next big one is that there’s actually two planes, the Star Tiger and the Star Ariel. So the Star Tiger, it’s a passenger aircraft, disappeared on January 30th 1948, it was on a flight from the Azores to Bermuda. So this at least this time it’s coming into the triangle and not leaving the triangle. Now the Star Ariel is another passenger ship, it disappeared on January 17th 1949, which is weird it’s almost exactly a year later, and it was on a flight from Bermuda to Kingston Jamaica. So both were Avro Tudor 4 passenger aircrafts and they were operated by British South American Airways, and both planes were operating at the very limits of their range. So the pilot’s like I can make it. And they say that is because there was room for error, you make one mistake and you’re like [ __ ] I can’t make it, but the fact is they both disappeared.

No, I had a friend, he was a pilot, and he took up a Cessna, he was going to Haiti I think, anyways same thing, he pushed it to the limits but they [ __ ] crashed right here, they didn’t even hit it. You know a guy who crashed, really, did he survive, yeah he did, he broke his back but he survived. Oh man you sound a little disappointed that he survived, like damn. Yeah so it’s no joke, you push it to the limit, it’s not the Bermuda Triangle, it’s the limits. What was the limit though, like what is that, in terms of like range. No, I think they were saying both were operating at the very limits of their range. They had too many people, too many gas weight all this [ __ ]. So I think they bring that up just cause, you know, they could have crashed, that’s not the Bermuda Triangle’s fault. Or is it, this is back fine, that’s what they want you to think. How did they know what the range was. Now he’s asking about your, he’s pretty [ __ ] up still, sorry man, shout out to the back, it’s a bummer.

So the next one is called Douglas DC-3, and the reason they have these weird names, this is the call signs of these aircrafts. So on December 28th 1948 a Douglas DC-3 aircraft disappeared while in a flight from San Juan Puerto Rico to Miami. So this [ __ ] is like he’s like triangle to triangle, he’s going point to point, cause San Juan to Miami is like two points of the triangle. So there was no trace of the aircraft, there were 32 people on board, and there was never found, how is that possible. I don’t know dude. A Civil Aeronautics Board investigation found there was insufficient information available. What’s that called, the black box and all that [ __ ] back then, but the black box you need to recover, the black box records all the data but you need to get it. But doesn’t it have like a GPS to it. I mean nowadays, but that was in 1948, they didn’t have like [ __ ] Bluetooth. They were like man they got DC-3 coming in, he’ll be fine, anybody on the landing pad here. If anything the black box then was just like a picture of the pilot’s wife, you know what I mean, like a chain, the black wallet he had up on the thing, some beads.

The KC-135 Stratotankers, his names are hilarious. So August 28th 1963 there was a pair of US Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft, they actually collided and crashed, they collided midair, this was 300 miles west of Bermuda when this happened. So some of the writers say that the two aircraft collided and then there was two distinct crash lights and they were separated by 160 miles, so that means you’re flying for a while, that’s just crazy. But research showed, like the Air Force investigation, the unclassified version of this investigation revealed that the debris field defining the second crash site was examined by search and rescue ship and found that there was actually a massive seaweed and driftwood, it wasn’t actually a crash. They got [ __ ] up, they made a little mistake, oh my bad, and an old tangled buoy that was trapped in there, I thought that was a crash site.

So those are the main ones, there’s obviously a lot more, the famous ones, these are the ones that were talked about most. There was investigations done, and so none of these got found, right. No, none of them, well it looks like one, there was one crash site, one of the two planes, they found one crash site but the second crash site was actually seaweed, they were like that’s a plane. So those are the main kind of ones that are talked about. So there is a lot of criticism on the triangle. So the guy named Larry Kusche, great name, he was the author of the book The Bermuda Triangle Mystery Solved, and this was in 1975. So he argued that many of the claims, this is getting into what we talked about earlier, so many of the claims by Gaddis, the guy who first coined the term, and subsequent writers were exaggerated, dubious or unverifiable.

Kusche’s research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies with their accounts and their statements. So these are statements from like eyewitnesses, participants that were involved in the investigations and all [ __ ]. So he would do very basic research, like real simple [ __ ], he would review the newspapers, he’d look at the dates of the reported incidents and find reports that he could find, and he’d look at relative events like the weather, what was the weather like in the area that they were flying, hurricane, exactly, like real basic [ __ ]. And a lot of these things that he found weren’t actually mentioned when the disappearances were talked about, they were just oh it disappeared, they didn’t mention if there was like inclement weather or there was other [ __ ].

So he concluded a couple things, and I just wanted to give this cause obviously you can’t, I have to give both sides. So firstly the number of the ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was either not significantly greater or proportionally, meaning they’re kind of exaggerating how many ships actually went down in that area, other than like the rest of the ocean, right, like it’s not out of the normal. Even like we were talking about the one that flew out of Bermuda to England, which is out of the, it went down near Rhode Island, we’re going to call it triangle, it’s in the triangle, it’s in the obelisk. So also it’s in an area frequented by tropical cyclones and like all the [ __ ], it’s a storm central, right, is that really, it’s a hot area for that kind of [ __ ]. And so with that kind of activity that’s happening in there, it’s not really mysterious why ships sink.

So that was one of his points. Otherwise, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention these things, so he was saying that would contradict what they were saying, they would sometimes actually say it was in calm conditions when it wasn’t. So he’s like okay they’re trying to grandiose this, like make it super, sell books, right. Also the numbers themselves had been exaggerated just due to sloppy research. For example you have a boat disappearance, it’d be reported but they eventually found it at the port, but they would disappear and the guys come in like oh [ __ ] it was wild, like never happened. This is the USS Juno, like we’re the Juno bro, we’re not there. And then the other thing is that some disappearances actually never happened. He said one plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach and in front of a hundred witnesses, and he’s saying that’s not even in the triangle by the way. It’s close, it’s in Florida, it’s like right there, I know where Daytona is, do you peasant.

And then his last thing is that he believes that the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery, pretty much perpetuated by writers to purposely kind of sensationalize a thing, a mystery, they wanted to create something to sell, which I can understand, that [ __ ] sells basically, hustling, have you watched the news, it’s [ __ ] asteroid hit the, it’s like they just want you to get, clickbait, yeah they got to sell. There are various other outlets that also disagree, other researchers, the Coast Guard, other people are like this is, you know, some. So the various theories as to what is occurring, and please God just, I’m just into it, I don’t believe these, I’m into it, what, keep going, let’s go. I’m just saying like I don’t want people to think that this is like me, oh yeah right, I just want to like [ __ ] disclosure agreement, these are just [ __ ] that I found. We do run into that problem a lot, I know, it’s got, flat Earth, I never had so many people hate us, like we’re just talking about it, listen to the whole episode, they on social media, I know it’s great, great clip though.

Anyways so the first is Atlantis. No way. So one of the big explanations, so you don’t even have to tell me anything, I’m in, I love it, I’m in, I want it, I’m there, I’m a believer, let’s go. So they think it’s this leftover technology from the lost continent of Atlantis. So there’s a reason, hear me out, you had me until technology. But dude that’s when we get it when we do the Atlantis episode. That was a thing that Atlantis was a super advanced civilization. Man Jorge coming in hot, wow, God damn, Jorge is the epitome of conspiracy. So the reason people connected to this is because of a rock formation that’s known as Bimini Road, or Bimini Wall, they call it two different things.

So what that is, Bimini Road is an underwater rock formation, it’s near North Bimini Island which is in the Bahamas. The road is approximately like 0.8 km which is like half a mile long, and it’s linear, it’s a line, it’s composed of rough rectangular limestone blocks, it looks like it’s under water and it’s like a road, looks like a man-made or Atlantis made thing. The thing is that it actually appears, the fact that it’s that long and it’s in a line, and it appears to be man-made, so people are like oh that’s remnants of Atlantis before it went underwater, so that’s why people, it’s in the area, so people like oh it’s leftover technology from Atlantis.

There’s also other people, and this is where it gets super ridiculous, so followers of the purported psychic Edgar Cayce take his prediction that evidence of Atlantis would be found in 1968, and this is referring to the discovery of Bimini Road in 1968. Yeah since then other people kind of pile onto this, cause people did think that Atlantis was a very technologically advanced civilization and that it had like crystal energy and [ __ ], like we’ll do Atlantis, there’s this whole thing about this. So they think that it’s still active on the seafloor which may cause mechanical interference and malfunctions with the ships and the planes and that’s why they go down. So it would be like our civilization now disappearing but our cell towers are still up and running and so then they’re like oh what is this. But I mean not that technology, it would be technology we’ve created, but the caveman like who the gods who the [ __ ] is this who built the pyramid, what do my stick keep breaking on it, how is it so hard. The idea is that we’re so far back, they were far more advanced than us, that’s the concept.

So first off let’s start it out, do you believe Atlantis exists. I believe it did exist at one point, 100%, both, yeah, I totally believe Atlantis exists. I’m not saying Atlantis is the cause of the Bermuda Triangle, but I figure if we start there then we go okay is this a plausible thing, I believe Atlantis was a place. Yeah I don’t believe it was called Atlantis if it exists, because that’s the theory is that it’s Atlantis leftover technology, right. And you want to know why I think, because two points, a, there’s all these weird monolithic structures underwater, how the [ __ ] do they get here, it’s not like an accident, there’s a giant statue down there like oh how’d that get down there. The other thing is like you realize that the most unexplored region on Earth is water, is ocean, we’ve explored less than a percent of the ocean, it’s so vast, why couldn’t it be down there. It’s like statistical probability.

So you’re going with the, okay, so you’re totally the opposite. No actually Eric’s like fish are, no actually tuna is actually manufactured of plant and there’s no such thing as an actual tuna. No actually I would almost agree with you, oh my God let me get this on the record, I would almost agree with you. I wouldn’t say it’s got technology that we don’t know about, but I would agree with you that it’s a probable place that might have existed, that existed and that’s no longer here. You also don’t agree with us on the pyramid, so well there’s no surprise. There is actual proof of there being a massive 16, 17,000 years ago massive flood, there’s actual like proof that that happened. So it’s that plus, you know, we’re talking about all the storms go through there, it’s possible some big thing came by, they were doing weather, they’re like [ __ ] yeah get the crops baby.

I just wanted to see where you guys were at on the Atlantis, because then we can actually go oh is that plausible, oh I see, if it’s [ __ ] Atlantis then obviously that doesn’t work, cross that one off the list. All right so next, wormhole. So first of all you going to talk about what is a wormhole just in case everybody listening. All right so a wormhole, there’s many people, there’s different, everybody listening not me, no, people have different concepts of what a wormhole is. So some people believe a wormhole is actually a rip, it’s like a hole in the fabric of spacetime where you can actually travel to a different place instantly. So when you think of like a Stargate, exactly, like a Stargate, Kurt Russell, yeah, oh yeah, obviously not the SG, no, the Kurt Russell, the era when he had the buzz cut, oh man it was like level, he looked like, the upkick with the lightning bolt. So some people believe that that’s what a wormhole is, so if you fold the fabric of space like that, you travel.

Because obviously when you think about it, you step through and you’re some other part, you’re in a different part. I learned this from Chris Nolan, exactly, Chris Nolan the foremost expert on, yeah absolutely. Because the reason people believe that is because obviously the universe is very vast and we’re stupid humans and we’re like oh the speed of light is the fastest travel in the universe, which is a lie because it’s super slow in terms of the Milky Way galaxy alone, it’s like 100 million light years wide, that’s just the Milky Way, and there’s tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of. But you kept saying people believe, so this is not like a decided definite thing that does exist. No we don’t know, cause no one, it’s a theory, a wormhole is a theory. Some people think a wormhole is a portal to a different like an alternate reality, different dimension, so we don’t know, it’s in the realm of theory.

It’s like, like you were saying Christopher Nolan, in Interstellar he goes to the wormhole but it’s a black hole and people think some people believe that black holes are wormholes, gotcha. And so he goes to the black hole and he goes to the fourth dimension but he ends up literally communicating with himself, but he comes back out and he’s by Earth again, so you have no idea, so that took him to a different dimension and spit him out somewhere else. Yeah it’s all theatrical elaboration too, yes no one knows. Black holes are, black holes exist, we just don’t know what they are, we haven’t been inside it to be like this is what’s happening, we have no idea what it does or why it exists or how it’s possible. So yeah it was a crash course in what wormholes, in theoretical physics, like this is a theory.

So people hypothesize that the Bermuda Triangle is a region that is a warp in spacetime, so you literally go in there and you actually go into a parallel universe, which is why a lot of these things there’s nothing found, they think it’s like the whole area or some part of that area takes you somewhere. Wow what a great movie script idea, you just go into a parallel universe. So here’s the movie script idea, you go into the Bermuda Triangle and you come out on the other side and it’s just all these people somewhere else, and there’s all these people trapped like [ __ ], hey man you made it, like God thank god, oh don’t close the door, don’t close the door.

So there was a pilot, his name was Bruce Gernon, so he gave his account, he experienced something going through the Bermuda Triangle. He says I didn’t believe in time travel or teleportation until it happened to me. So he alleges that a fog surrounded his craft and he leaped ahead 100 miles, and he says he documented what happened and he memorized every detail of this flight. Does it say what year it is. So he published a book in 2017, oh wow okay this recent, yeah so that’s when he published the book, I don’t know exactly when it happened but that’s when he published the book. So people believe that that’s how things disappear. But obviously the ocean’s vast, it’s like look how hard it was for us to find the Titanic, Jesus Christ, 70 years, yeah.

The next one is aliens, my favorite, God damn it. So some people say that aliens use the Bermuda Triangle as a portal, so that’s how they get to and from, well it’s a portal like from their planet, that’s how they get here, and I don’t know why they, this is the perfect spot to put the portal, trust me, not like in space but just like above the Atlantic Ocean, it’s like their airport terminal, exactly, it’s like Concourse B, now arriving Earth Bermuda, please mind the gap. So that’s how the people think that that’s how they conduct their research on the human race, as they come here and they trap people there and they do experiments. Wow. So this would explain why some of the ships aren’t recovered, they disappeared and they went through that door quote, it’s super loose, I just feel like someone was, well this is the only way it could be, explanation aliens. I mean that USS Cyclops went down, aliens brother.

So that’s the main paranormal ones. Okay there’s a lot of other natural explanations. So there’s magnetics, so compass variations, a lot of the things cited in the triangle to do with like compass problems, so the magnetic field is like [ __ ] with the compasses. So there are magnetic anomalies that we have that are known about in the US and in the world, but they haven’t really found any sort of magnetic anomalies in that area, they have done tests and they’ve tried, but obviously, but other areas they have. There’s a place that it’s like a line that’s from somewhere in Arizona and down into the ocean, and it’s a weird magnetic anomaly that screws your compass up because true north and magnetic north are almost the exact same thing. But there are magnetic anomalies, but they didn’t really find anything in this area.

No but obviously it’s a 500,000 square mile area, so it’s not like they can do everything, but they have tried to do tests and they haven’t found anything. And it is known there’s even the magnetic poles actually do have natural magnetic variations that [ __ ] with compasses and stuff, so people think that that could be a reason why magnetic causes issues with the electronics and [ __ ] goes down. The next explanation would be the Gulf Stream, which is the main current that goes this. This I feel has a lot of weight, it does, yeah. So in case you don’t know, pretty much the Gulf Stream is just a major surface current, and imagine like a river in the ocean, right, so it’s an actual river, I mean it moves at about 2 meters a second, which is pretty fast.

So they’re saying that in essence if a small plane crashes, it’s just a normal crash, and it could just suck it away, the current just sucks it away. So part of that idea too would be if say we’re on a plane and we’re doing mayday, we give our coordinates, oh and you hit the current and you go 50 miles south all of a sudden in an hour, and you’re like oh, and so the coordinates [ __ ] like we can’t find any, they disappeared, and they keep moving, so by the time the party even gets out there. So that is a very plausible explanation. The next is just a really great one, human error, you know it’s they [ __ ] up, they crashed. So the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, it’s they were drunk while they were driving the boat, they crashed.

Although the first one is suspect to me, the magnetic, no the five planes, I know they all ran out of gas, all of them, and they’re Navy so they’re really diligent about their [ __ ], I understand one, and it was in wartime, it was World War II, I understand two of the planes but five is a lot, that’s the one that really, that’s why I was like ooh. The only thing I can think of is that they were shot down, right, yeah, you know what I mean, I mean this was amidst World War II. And so the enemies are not going to be like hey guys oh [ __ ] your planes are down, sorry, help here.

So the next one which is another very plausible one is this violent weather. So obviously hurricanes, tropical cyclones, and especially in this area, if you live in this area you know this [ __ ] gets pounded all the time, hurricane season just started this week or something like that. If you could see this pictoral, our videos are down for this one, but almost every hurricane you’ve ever seen if you watch the news when it’s happened, it literally, you watch the giant spiral roll right through this [ __ ] area every goddamn time, it goes right through this area. We’ll put a picture of it on the website so you guys can see. So we’re in Florida and so we deal a lot in hurricanes, tropical storms, exactly what Sean’s talking about, which is we know it goes right through there, this [ __ ] is all up in here and then it’s coming up the coast or then it goes up and out, it goes up in there to South Carolina or it goes this way and then it hits Louisiana and Texas, so it’s all right there, all the action is there, it’s like the center, it’s where they all hit, so that makes a lot of sense.

And also there’s an interesting phenomena that will happen, there’s this ship that got sunk called the Pride of Baltimore, and this is in 1986, and pretty much what will happen is like a downdraft of cold air happens, so cold air comes down and literally it shifted the velocity, like when this happened it shifted the velocity from 20 mph to 60 to 90 mph like instantly, wow, just because it comes in and some [ __ ] happens and the wind just goes bananas. And have you guys been in 90 mph wind, dude I have, it’s crazy, it’s wild. I was walking the streets in the Tampa Bay area of hurricane Irma, oh yeah, and when it really hit or the center was here up, we only got about 70, but I’m not even kidding I was walking and you get an elevation in your step, little lift, you get a little pop, you get like a half foot little boost, that’s from the strength of the wind. Well have you ever put your hand out the window going 90 mph, your [ __ ] gets slammed back, but imagine your whole body just getting hit by that. So it’s no joke, a lot of stuff can happen when you’re out there, especially if you’re flying a plane through a tropical storm, you can’t see, the wind is just constantly changing.

So it’s a big proponent especially in this area, if this was somewhere else it would be like [ __ ] no. I actually after listening to all this it’s kind of like Tornado Alley, oh dude it’s, yeah Tornado Alley, Oklahoma and Iowa, constantly this [ __ ] every year tornadoes, it’s an alley of tornadoes that just come in and come in. So if planes were going down there all the time you’re like a tornado, aliens, aliens, Atlantis is buried under Boise, I know, there’s pyramids under there somewhere, just didn’t go underwater it went under rock, yes.

The last one is a really interesting one because it’s an actual phenomenon, it’s called methane hydrates. So pretty much methane hydrates is a form of natural gas, and they have found large fields of these methane hydrates like on the continental shelves. So in case you don’t know, the way the Earth is made up of tectonic plates, and they’re constantly shifting, that’s why the continents, you know there was Pangaea and then it shifted. So they’ll shift and they’ll release these massive pockets of natural gas from basically the core of Earth essentially, there’d be a massive like huge massive Earth fart, but an Earth fart that can blow up like a nuclear bomb. So pretty much these pockets get on Earth and what happens, it’ll be a giant bubble of this like natural gas and what it does it decreases the density of the water, gotcha.

So under the ocean, when you imagine that you have this massive pocket that covers like a 10 mile pocket of gas, so the gas is going to rise, it literally will change the density of the water and your ship will just sink, it’ll just fall into the water. So they’ve done tests and they’ll do to scale, they’re not going to test it on a real ship, but they’ll do these things in a lab and they manipulate it and literally you can instantly sink a scale model of the ship and it just drops, just instantly, you’re sailing along and you’re underwater like instantly, damn that’s insane. Cause it sounds like a nightmare, you’re like oh man this cruise, you’re chilling, all of a sudden you’re [ __ ] drowning, like pop another bubble of baby [ __ ] underwater. Dude if you made a movie about that nobody would even believe it, being sucked by Earth on a boat, they would just be like no it’s not even plausible.

So they have done a lot of studies, publications on these hydrates because there are a lot of large stores that are all over the world. So there’s a place called the Blake Ridge area which is off the southeastern United States, but they did searches and they said technically there hasn’t been any large releases of gas hydrates in the Bermuda Triangle for the past 15,000 years. That’s just, it’s a theory, they don’t know for a fact, but based on what we’ve looked at there hasn’t been anything like that in a long time. So that’s the last kind of natural explanation for it. And that’s why when I was doing this I was kind of, cause I’m usually like the conspiracy God and I’m always going for the conspiracies almost every time, man I just, there’s a lot of real basic common sense natural [ __ ], you know don’t bring the manganese ship in a hurricane bro.

I feel like after 30 episodes I finally have Sean like, yeah he’s getting all logical, a basic con, instead I was like everything’s [ __ ] my life is a conspiracy, episode one he was like I was on the far right-wing conspiracist, now I’m kind of like. I mean with this one specifically I just think that based on its geographical location it’s a lot of hurricanes hit there, tons, every year, and I totally believe it’s totally possible, hurricanes and tropical storms every year. It’s totally possible for there to be some weird magnetic anomaly where it’s like oh [ __ ] my systems went a little haywire because obviously everything is electronic, you fly a plane, have you seen the cockpit of a plane, [ __ ] 10 trillion electronics in there, something screws them up and you got to take manual mode and shit’s going down. That is valid, but don’t planes fly there every day. Well here’s, but a lot of this stuff happened in the 30s 40s 50s and 60s when technology was [ __ ], we were just getting into mass plane transit, we were getting real good at it.

So that’s another thing that I looked up, the last known incident, I tried to find okay when was the last Bermuda Triangle problem, and there’s a bunch and the last documented one was like 2017, there’s a bunch in 2017, 2015, but they all found, I mean they crash and they found, yeah they found like people survived or things, that’s what I’m saying, but they found them, it’s not they didn’t disappear, they’re like oh we found the [ __ ]. It seems like a 1900 to 1970 problem, yeah that was like a pre-iPhone problem. He went over 10 examples, all 1880 to 1968, just like a combination of human error, weather and the legend. I’m pretty sure Jorge is like the Atlanteans got all the data they needed, they don’t need to crash any ships anymore, it’s all done, experiment over.

Although to be fair I would never take a flight from Bermuda to London, I would never, I mean if it’s just call it what it is, I’m not gonna fly through it, right, no, take it off from JFK to. I’ll go from dude I’ll go from TPA, let’s say we were in Puerto Rico, let’s say we were in Puerto Rico and I was like hey let’s go to Dublin, if we’re in Puerto Rico oh hell yeah go, I’ll be like we’re going to Dublin, I’ll fly from anyway, I’ll fly from Moscow, no that’s not the point, yes but you’re going to, so the point is you’re scared of the triangle, I won’t fly, I’ll be like let’s go to. I love how Eric doesn’t believe it but he won’t fly through it, not going to take the risk.

By the way I just realized I’ve flown, I went to Puerto Rico, no you did, yes I did, well you went then, you sure you didn’t go to the Gulf of Mexico down here, you went from Miami or whatever to Puerto Rico, or Tampa, Tampa to Puerto Rico, Tampa gets you from here, but unless you go like this, yeah it goes a little wrap around, although next time I’m going to make sure to go through the middle. I did notice a major personality shift with Jorge after, it went like, could be [ __ ] body swap, you know what I mean, [ __ ] aliens, he took the flight and then it’s not really Jorge, wait when was that, what was the date of that flight Jorge, he was like balding before, now he’s got a full out the [ __ ] it’s like thick, as, what did they do to you, he’s like the man, it said Atlantean technology.

All right so what do you think, I already said I think same, I just think it’s a combination of the human error plus the weather and the fact that like a lot of this, at least the examples that we brought up, they were when like you said the planes were just starting to get mass produced, they were just starting to get the hang, the technology wasn’t the same. I don’t think it’s the thing I used to think it really, no I don’t think it’s a thing at all, no nothing, they probably also didn’t have good, maybe like rain except for the weather, like nowadays just weather, you know like your car tells you like you have like 18 miles empty, it’s like pretty accurate.

All right well I mean it sounds like this conspiracy, this mystery or this whatever it is, debunk, just kind of slowly eroded because it just didn’t hold any water. And I also think, oh wow pun intended, dad joke supreme, yeah I also think that the writers back then were just trying to sell books, like please I know it’s true. Well we hate to end an episode on complete logical explanation but honestly I think we all agree. I will end off by saying I would never fly through it and I would never sail a ship through it, oh I would never sail a ship through that, I don’t know why I wouldn’t take a cruise through that. So what does that mean, does that mean I’m like 98%, I’m like a 97 and a half, 97.5, like there’s a 2.5 chance that we go into the void, yeah I’m definitely not taking like a schooner, us three, oh small definitely not going through, no I don’t care how rich we are, we’re not doing that [ __ ]. It might be a cool way to go out, like say we’re 85, you know what I mean, you’re done, you’re like I’m done and then get a sailboat and you go sail the triangle, and then die a [ __ ] horrible death, it’s the worst way to die.

Well there you go guys, Bermuda Triangle, please tell us what you think, and we’re definitely going to do a poll on that, and I hope you don’t think this episode was a waste, no I mean maybe that’s, we got to get to the bottom of all these, that’s the whole point, this educational podcast, fill the vacuum so to speak. A lot of people like us when we were younger, before driving into this it was such a big thing, I dude I thought when I was going into the research of this I was totally, there’s some [ __ ] sketch [ __ ] going, I’d always thought it was a thing and then I was like oh yeah [ __ ] hasn’t happened in there a while, like I haven’t actually thought about that. But if you went to a bar and you said hey what are the top 10 conspiracies, oh it’d be number five, well if you’re in our age group, yeah if you’re like a Gen Zer you’re like what the [ __ ] the Bermuda Triangle, is it on TikTok, TikTok dance, I don’t even know what that is, Gen Zer that’s the new one.

It’s like that after us, no I think it’s a new thing, you that’s when you know you guys are Gen Z, I’m not [ __ ] Gen Z I’m a millennial, oh what’s, I’m a millennial too weird, no you’re not, Gen Z is after, what the [ __ ] am I then, you’re a millennial, no you’re 80 you’re a baby boomer, 81 baby boomer, no you’re Gen X, no, so Gen Z is mid to late 1990s and the early 2010s as the ending birth years, I’m the oldest millennial that exists, you’re like the last, you’re the tag, 82 to 94 or something, so I’m the last of this, you’re the youngest, oh yeah cool, I’m glad we cleared that up, so now we know where we stand on the generational lettering system. All right guys well thanks for tuning in, definitely hit us with the comments and night night.