Welcome back to The Conspiracy Podcast, ladies and gentlemen. What’s up everybody. Hey guys, it’s Eric, Sean, and Jorge once again on this lovely Tuesday morning. Morning, evening, afternoon, whenever you’re listening. I love when Sean does podcasts because I literally just can sit here and just vibe with him the whole time, you know. I’m not going to do them many. You guys almost got into a fight one time. Oh yeah, it was close. We had edited it out, but I was egging him on. I was doing it on purpose.

I think a couple of those Yang flights kind of got to me, maybe like deep or whatever, and we like actually, you know, maybe maybe one day on Patreon they’ll release the unedited. I think it was flat earth, right? It was flat earth, and I was just being a dick on purpose. I’m not going to lie, I was purposely being a dick, and Eric was like okay. Once the okay happened, I was like he’s pissed, he’s like super pissed. Yeah, that’s your cue to keep it going. It was super hard to edit because I didn’t want it to seem that we were mad. Delete all of it.

Anyways, so today we’ve got one that I think is really really wild, and you know you constantly kind of vibe on it if you know what it is, but it’s called the Mandela effect. I heard it’s crazy. Yeah, super, dude. It’s like prepare to have your childhood and life ruined. You know what’s crazy though, I didn’t know about it until you told me about it like weeks ago, and that was about it, and it sent you down the wormhole. I didn’t know about it when I was growing up. But also recently I found out about it, and I found out about it through TikTok, just like everything in your life. Yeah, exactly.

The Mandela effect, it’s referring to a situation in which a large mass of people believe that an event occurred that didn’t. So the term Mandela effect was actually coined in 2009 through this chick named Fiona Broome. Oh, like a person. Yes, a person. So her name is Fiona Broome, and she created a website to detail her observance of this kind of phenomenon, this Mandela effect. So she was at a conference and she was talking with other people about how she remembered the tragedy of Nelson Mandela, who we all know, South African president who was against the apartheid, and she was talking to people about remembering his death, and he died in prison in the 1980s. And Nelson Mandela died in 2013. He didn’t die in prison. Weird.

So she began to talk to other people about her memories. She remembered seeing this on TV and watching his widow make a speech, this whole thing, and so other people also remember this news coverage and they were like yeah, I remember that too. And apparently supposedly there’s thousands of people that remembered this happening. So she was freaked out like what the. And so she was encouraged by a book publisher to be like hey, you should create a website and start talking about it, and that’s where the Mandela effect in essence came into fruition. So she thought, along with thousands of people, that he died, and everybody really thought that they remembered the news covering the story and they remembered his widow giving a speech after his death.

So it’s not just like oh, I remember hearing that he died. I remember watching the news. And then you go and look this up and it’s like no, there’s no news, and he didn’t die till 30 years later. Like 30 years later he dies. Crazy. That’s strange. So there’s a lot of different, I know it’s obviously that’s the main example, that’s why it’s called the Mandela effect, right, that’s where it started. But let’s just for my own sake, let me just make sure I understand it. So it’s something that the masses believed, that a large group of people believed, small or large, could be a small thing, could be a large thing, whatever, that was just wrong, that did not happen. Yeah, correct. Everybody’s wrong about the way they remember it.

It’s crazy because usually if a lot of people remember it a certain way it becomes truth. Yeah, okay. So that’s what the Mandela effect is. Messed up history, exactly. And it didn’t even have to be like historical, a lot of the things aren’t really super important, they’re stupid things. It wasn’t like America was not founded in 1776. I think there’s a show that was called like The Man in the High Tower and it was like what if Germany won, the whole Nazis. Okay, not like that, it’s not like that. It’s pretty good, I stopped watching it, I think it’s based on a book. Basically it’s the idea that if the Nazis won what would happen now, and it’s the story of, so Japan and Germany won and they’re the superpowers. What you’re doing now, because now we’re hiding from our government.

So on the Mandela one, so what happened, that’s when Mandela died in 2013, so he was released from prison, and he got to prison, he was the president of South Africa, his last term ended I think in like 2010 or 11, wow, and then he died. So just millions of people thought he died in the 80s, thought he died in prison. Wow. And Nelson, amazing dude, you know. So are you going to get into it, but does it have to do with fake news and the way that the information, like black propaganda. No, we’re going to, I’ll get into different potential explanations. So there’s a lot of examples, and so I wrote down a bunch so we can kind of chat about them, because some of them will be more prevalent to you or me.

But first things first, I wanted to get into other examples, right, because there’s certain things that you’ve believed. Oh yeah. And you’re going to be like what do you mean. You guys are going to be listening to this and you’re like no no no no no, like you’re going to pause, Google. You’re going to go Google. And just so you know these things, this isn’t just, everyone I’ve talked to about this is well maybe they just change the name, you know, it’s like marketing, you just do that. I’m like well Google it. And it’s never been that, it’s only ever been this. And you’re like no no. The biggest one, like some of these things, you grew up thinking this 100% as a child.

This first one I talked to my mom about, because I called my mom and I was like you remember when I was a kid we used to read the Berenstein Bears books. We did. I remember them, they were great, and I distinctly remember reading them with my mom. The Berenstein Bears aren’t the Berenstein Bears, the Berenstain, the burn stain bears, B-a-i-n instead of B-e-i-n. And if you Google it you can look and search, you can’t, it’s always been the stain. But then I found this random dude, I found this random reel on Instagram, and this guy found a super old book and it was Berenstein, and I was like what the. He’s like did I crack the Matrix. I was like oh my God.

So for those who don’t know, this is a child’s book about a family of bears, a bunch of bears living their life, right, and they wear like jeans and flannel shirts and stuff. They were awesome, I loved them, weird claws and they’re like little hair, it’s like old school. I still read this to my daughter, it’s great, I still read it personally, I know, it’s good literature, I love it. No but I thought it was Berenstein. It’s Berenstain. And you’re showing me the paper, right, so it says that, but even like you still see it as, you still say it and see it that way. Dude I know. That’s when I first was like this is messed up, this is not true.

The next one, this one I was talking to Eric about before, and it really messed his universe up. So everyone remembers Jiffy peanut butter. Yeah, Jiffy. It’s Jif. Jiffy, super creamy, sugary. It’s never Jiffy, it was Jif only, never Jiffy. Jif, no Jiffy. Why do we think Jiffy then. If you Google it, I looked this up and the company was founded in like 1955, it’s always Jif, there’s no commercial, only ever been Jif. There’s never any commercials, nothing. He’s Googling it right now. We, me and Eric Googled it together, and he texts his brothers asking about it. It’s super upsetting. It’s so messed up. Jif. Jiffy Lube, that’s the only thing that comes up, confusing.

It’s as if it never existed. I even Google searched Jiffy peanut butter and it autocorrects to Jif. Google like no, you don’t. Wow, okay. Here’s one thought on Jif, which is, what if we thought it was Skippy. That’s a good thought. Wow, you know, I did not think about that. Maybe the only idea, like in your mind you say Jiffy, maybe Skippy was such good marketing, competitor, and then you’re like, well I, it’s a stretch, it’s thin, I don’t know. It’s not really a stretch, it’s actually a great point. All right, well I’m going to take full credit for that, wink wink, you know who you’re talking to.

The next one, which really annoyed me, Looney Tunes. So Looney Tunes isn’t T-O-O-N-S, it’s T-U-N-E-S, like a tune. No, it doesn’t even make any sense. No, it’s, we’re tiny, we’re toony, we’re all a little looney, that’s just the beginning, that’s like the intro, and that’s the expanded one too. And then it’s literally just random skits of animation, it’s not like they’re making music. May have thought it was music. It’s not. Dude I remember Wile E. Coyote, and he doesn’t sing, there’s no words. He sings, he’s just like got catchup, pretty good, Bugs Bunny. Sorry you white bastard, you’re messing me up. What, the tunes, it’s Tunes like a tune. I would have bet money, I actually bet money, I, dude, you’re, I can’t even speak, I actually bet money, no I didn’t bet any money, I just, I can see it in my head, like when I was a kid I can see it watching it and it was Toons. I’m trying to Google the original logo, but it’s Tunes.

Another one is Curious George’s tail. I don’t know if you ever read Curious George books. Yeah, oh yeah, the little monkey and the Man in the Yellow Hat. Yeah, he never had a tail, it’s never there. I know that one’s not as big for me as like the first three. I could imagine it, you know what I mean, that one I was kind of okay, like whatever, it wasn’t so ingrained in my upbringing as like the first three. I was like this is not happening, I refuse. Then there’s also Oscar Mayer, like Oscar Meyer wiener. I remember I used to have a little Oscar Mayer wiener truck, like a hot wheel, I don’t know why, like it’s a great idea, we’re going to put the big hot dog and a hot wheel car. It’s actually Mayer, Oscar Mayer, not Oscar Meyer, not Meyer.

But I could almost believe that one though, yeah, just like a pronunciation error. Oscar Mayer. Maybe because it doesn’t rhyme. Oscar Meyer wiener. Maybe it was like wiener, maybe it was like one of those Northern things where they’re like Mario or Mario, New Yorker or New Jersey guys or Canadians. I mean let’s just ask Maya. We just lost so many New Yorker followers. It’s okay, ask Maya, hey we love you Maya, this probably hits them deep.

All right, Oscar Mayer. The next one really annoys me too, so the Monopoly man, you know, he never had a monocle. I always thought he had a monocle. And I always remember, Ace Ventura disagrees, sure, do not pass go, do not collect $200. I always thought it had a monocle, and the like, Eric constantly Googles, he’s like I don’t believe any of this. I’m going to take a quick break, I’m still deep in the Mandela Matrix, fact or whatever. The Mandela Matrix, yeah, okay. All right, monocle.

Next one I know for a fact is messed up, because I’ve worn the underwear, Fruit of the Loom, cornucopia. You know the cornucopia with the fruit. Yeah, doesn’t exist. No, cornucopia, come on now. So what is it though. It’s just the fruit, it’s just like the apple, the grapes, and whatever other fruit. Wait, I swear to God there’s a cornucopia, the little wooden weaved basket thing that they were in, I remember because I had those underwear. It’s just like, how did I, I don’t know about that one, I always remember kind of like this. Don’t you remember. I don’t have memory of Fruit of the Looms in Mexico are different than the Mexican Fruit of the Loom, it’s like they just had a bunch of limes, avocados, avocados from Mexico, another jingle right there that gets me. I do that every time, like I’ll be at the store and I’m like avocados from Mexico, they get me every time. I don’t remember that one. For me it hits deep, okay.

This one, dude, this one’s going to mess you up. So you know C-3PO, right, gold droid, has one silver leg. Shut, dude, that’s true. I’m telling you it’s, dude you’re going to go obviously you’re going to Google it, it’s going to be there because it’s the new timeline. He does not, I remember they had him all shined up, no he does not, he doesn’t, I’m telling you, he has two right there. Wait wait, what are you saying. This is saying that instead of being all gold, C-3PO has one silver leg. Does he have a silver leg in there. See how it’s like, I mean, is that really silver, that’s a stretch, this one is a stretch. Well dude, that’s what they said when you Google this, it could be gold, the light, exactly, it’s like lighting, right. What do you think about that. That’s why when I saw it I was like this is a straight lie.

Go to other ones. No, go back right there, look at that one, that one looks so, that looks photoshopped. Okay, just because you don’t believe it, just for the Mandela clicks, clickbait, maybe, this picture is also from Reddit it sounds like, okay it’s edited, it’s Reddit, it might just be a prop problem, oh that’s just like a lighting. You know, this is straight up, that’s like original packaging, oh my God, look at that, oh, okay, all right, he might have a point. That’s old school packaging, okay, that’s interesting, I don’t believe it, but that’s what they’re saying is the truth.

So if you thought that was wild, okay, just hold the phone, just relax, don’t freak out. So what’s the most famous line from the original Star Wars trilogy. I got a bad feeling about this, or May the force be with you. No, the most famous line, bro. Luke, Luke I’m your father, exactly. Like I’m your father. Guess what he really says. Oh yeah, I’ve heard this. He says, no I am your father. He doesn’t say Luke I am your father. Are you serious. Sean’s right, are you serious. Hey, I’m not saying these are accurate, this is the new timeline. No you’re right, he says no I am your father.

Because you know there’s a joke in Tommy Boy, he goes Luke I am your father, and that’s not the line. Yeah it is useless to resist. It’s only been two minutes. The next one is going to hit every human on this planet, every human who’s ever listened to any music in their entire lives. So say for me the last line of We Are the Champions. My friend. We are the champions, no time for losers, cause we are the champions, of the world, exactly. There is no of the world. No it’s, it do, dude it’s literally always been, no of the way, why do we know that. And then it just ends, it just says we are the champions and it ends. Huh, oh no way. Dude I’m telling you, that’s why it’s the Mandela effect, you’re going to Google it, it’s just going to be We Are the Champions. I already Googled it, I already YouTubed it at home, because I was like why did we sing it at the same time. At the same time we did it.

Every human on the planet sings that, no time for losers cause we are the champions, of the world. Where’s it from. So I don’t get it then, it must be from somewhere, it’s from our actual timeline, no it must be in some sort of media or some sort of movie, you know what I mean, like it doesn’t make sense, we sang it at the same time. I’m telling you that’s why, I told, he knew we were going to sing it too, you son of a. Because, dude, how many times I karaoke that song, of the world, maybe it’s a thing that they played, like someone dubbed in, like Mighty Ducks. To me it’s like maybe in Mighty Ducks the D2 or D3, ducks fly together, the Bash Brothers, yes, the Bash Brothers. Dude I love that movie. I know it’s crazy. That’s wild.

Okay so here’s another one. Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all. That’s incorrect, supposedly it’s actually magic mirror on the wall. I don’t remember magic mirror on the wall. Oh, who is the fairest. Also I didn’t realize how dark that was, she was like slaying in the mirror. I don’t really remember that to be honest, it was a long time ago. That one’s no, but okay I don’t remember you either, but when you say it, yeah that makes kind of sense. Magic mirror on the wall, maybe it’s just, it sounds better, mirror mirror on the wall sounds better than magic mirror.

All right so here’s another, dude this next one, okay, what’s the most iconic line from Silence of the Lambs. I ate her liver with some fava beans and a nice bottle of Chianti. That is not the most, what do you mean, in Silence of the Lambs. Hello Clarice, yeah there you go, yes it’s hello Clarice. Not like with the weird mouth thing, like he’s like a rat, Jesus Christ, with the fava beans, so funny, so great. She’s walking in, she sees him behind the bars, good morning, good morning. That’s interesting, yeah, everybody thinks. I wonder if he says it later, like hello Clarice, maybe he does. But how did that become so freaking iconic then. I feel like this is Jim Carrey, I don’t know when, but I feel like he would do hello, you know, it’s some stick, I don’t know, that one’s weird.

The next one is more believable because I only seen it once, but it’s from Field of Dreams, and it was one of my top five, just so you know. He’s like if you build it they will come. But it’s actually if you build it he will come. Really. If you build it he will come. But who’s talking about, oh, Joe, okay. That was more believable because I can see that happening. This is like a wrong quote, right. I think I like this messed up there, another one. The original, I mean that’s not so different than like hello Clarice or good morning. I know it’s like completely different words, it’s like they changed one word, if you build it and it will come.

That Queen one is so, of the world, I would have bet, that’s the end of every, I’ve karaoke’d the song, it is the end of every karaoke, so do the pose, of the world, because it’s weird, it just ends, like We Are the Champions, done, full stop, that one’s weird. Maybe Wayne’s World. No. All right so the next one, like original Star Trek with William Shatner, you know, beam me up Scotty, they put it into the new movies, it’s always there. It’s so lame, it’s actually Scott, beam us up. It’s not even Scotty. No, it’s just Scott. You never said Scotty beam me up. No he didn’t say beam me up Scotty, he was just Scott beam us up. No way, never. I mean maybe the Chris Pine one. Beam me up Scotty. This is almost worse than the Queen one, like it actually might be worse.

So you know, like you’ve been hit by, you’ve been struck by a smooth criminal. So it’s actually, and I know I YouTubed it, it’s you’ve been hit by, you’ve been hit by a smooth, it’s just you’ve been hit by twice. Oh, there’s no you’ve been struck by. No, how do we get that one wrong. I don’t know, I was dancing that like, I’m, you’ve been hit by you. I don’t know why my head moves like that. But you think we just got this wrong, but how did everyone get it wrong. That’s exactly, how did everybody get it wrong. If it would just be me then I’d be like, another one I would have bet money on that. You’ve been struck by, you’ve been struck by, dude I’ve sung that for so many years, you know, you’ve been struck by a smooth, the only line I know.

The amount of trademark copyright infringements we’ve done this episode, that’s the good thing about podcasts. We’ve gotten that wrong for decades, where’s that come from, I might have to find out where all these came from, here’s a good point, we get to do like a part two on the Mandela effect. Here’s a good one for Eric, so I don’t know, you know Lord of the Rings when Gandalf tells Frodo and the homies, run you fools, run you fools, yeah you fools. He actually says fly you fools. Does he. I always thought it was, so he goes you shall not pass, and the Balrog throws him, and he goes run you fools, and he gets sucked down. Great impression, run you fools. But in reality he says fly you fools. That doesn’t make any sense, fly. Oh my God, fly you fools, like none of them can fly, they’re Hobbits and they’re in a dungeon, a cave. You sure about this. Well I mean you could always YouTube that one. I don’t know why it makes me depressed. That’s why I said it was for you, I knew that one was going to hit you deep.

And then there’s a couple other ones that I wrote down that are kind of whatever. Like the Flintstones are actually the Flint Stones. I didn’t know that one. Mickey Mouse wearing suspenders in the original, and it’s like his little hips are moving, he’s actually never wearing suspenders. Okay. Forrest Gump, he says, don’t tell me he doesn’t say run. No, I was jogging, I was running. No it’s just a weird Freudian slip, apparently everyone thinks it’s life is like a box of chocolates, but it’s life was like a box of chocolates, Freudian slip thing. So he’s like mama says life is like a box of chocolates, but it’s mama said life was like a box. But she wasn’t dead yet, or she was dead. She was dead at that time, so that makes more sense. I don’t remember that, he’s sitting on the bench. I think my memory is life is like a box, that’s what my memory was too, but I’m saying, I can understand was, because maybe he’s past tensing it, this one is kind of easy to get confused.

There’s a couple other ones I put on here, they’re kind of like whatever, but remember from the Gremlins, the evil gremlin, you throw water on them and they turn into psychos. No, they multiply in water, but you feed them after midnight and they turn into psychos. Kind of like women. No, it’s like if you don’t, you feed them after midnight they turn, they got to sleep, it’s great. Okay, not that there’s anything wrong with that, I also fall asleep after midnight when I eat, I just ate and I will be sleeping very soon. So people thought his name was Spike and it’s actually Stripe. I know it’s kind of irrelevant one, but you know. I don’t remember the names of them though.

The last one is white out is actually Wite-Out, which I thought was really weird, W-I-T-E out, like misspelled. Not white but Wite. Huh, weird, why would it be that. I know, is it, white, it’s a brand, it must be a brand, but it’s still called white out, misspelled brand. I guess you’re right, once you look at the logo, okay it says Wite-Out, but you kind of say it as white out. No, but they were smart, huh, they were smart, they probably couldn’t get the trademark or something. Don’t worry bro, some weird clan members had the trademark for white out as ours, so it’s Wite-Out. Well it would actually be a black panther thing, because white out, no, like you know when there’s a sports thing and they’re like we’re going to do a blackout, he’s just trying to get cancelled, and they all wear black, he said it, he said clan. Yeah but he could say that, well he can say clan and I can’t say white, no you can’t say black panthers, I can’t say black panthers at all, trademark copyright, I’m not allowed to say black panthers, you’ll be hearing from my lawyer, cancel a third of the podcast, me and Eric will be now 50-50 partners the next episode, sorry, unfortunately.

No, it’s actually going to be, the Mandela effect, wasn’t The Conspiracy Podcast three guys. No, welcome to the brown podcast, since our inception it was only two members, it was only me and Eric. Okay, if you go deep dive on Reddit, the interwebs about this, what people call it when they get evidence or show that they’re not crazy and they can prove it, what they call it, residue. So I don’t know why it’s such a weird word. Ooh, I got residue, check this out. So just going back to the Smooth Criminal one that we were just talking about, right, I was looking at the lyrics, and in the second verse, check this out, second verse, you’ve been struck by. So we debunked, we are debunkers, we figured it out. That’s where it comes from, so people literally heard it and they just turned the song off, they’re like nope, I’m out, peace, that’s where they checked out. No, I clearly remember struck, like I knew I wasn’t crazy, we got the residue, got the residue.

So anyways, there are, I guess you say, reasonable explanations for this. So there’s a thing called false memories, you know, that’s when memories are recalled rather than remembered perfectly, they could be influenced to a point that they eventually become incorrect. So meaning if you don’t have perfect recall where you can recall exact, you kind of remember something but you’re only remembering pieces of it, and then it could get skewed and eventually it becomes something that’s not true. Memory being something that’s imperfect and in essence unreliable, because you’re not remembering exactly how it happened. Gotcha.

So there’s another thing called confabulation, such a bizarre word, sounds fake. No bro, you want to confabulate. So confabulation is when your brain kind of fills in the gaps that are missing in your memories to make them make sense. Okay, so you dub in stuff to make it make sense to you. So you know, people say especially with some of these examples where it actually sounds better the way we think it is, so maybe we were trying to make it sound better. Or you take memories of movies that maybe did get them wrong and you fill in the gaps with that other memory and you’re piecing it all together. So say you watched Star Wars a long time ago and you heard the quote of I am your father, and then you watch Tommy Boy and he goes Luke I am your father, and then 20 years go by and then you fill in the gaps, essentially that’s what this is.

The next one’s kind of weird, it’s called priming. So it’s pretty much like factors that lead up to an event that affect your perception of it, like presupposition, you presuppose something, or suggestibility. An example being like the difference between asking how tall a person is and how short a person is. It’s like you’re already predisposing that they’re already tall, so how tall are you, or you’re presupposing that they’re short, so how short are you, even though they could be 6 feet. So you’re making an assumption that affects your memory of it. I don’t know about that one, because if you think about it, we are the champions of the world, how does that fit in. Because maybe I was telling myself you’re the champion of the world, God damn it, you’re the greatest mother ever lived, of the world, not of the block. I know it’s weird.

So the one that I was really pumped about, the one I’m kind of on board with, is alternate realities. So the big theory, Eric rolling his eyes, so Eric’s already, confabulation is the real thing, Eric’s like I didn’t think it was a real word, but you know the more I think about it, it’s a real thing, go ahead, go. So before you, me and Jorge unite, exactly, two Browns are better than one. The big theory is that there’s actually like an altered timeline, you know, so we have like the time, so it’s not like a Spider-Verse but it’s like a timeline change. The Spider-Verse is in essence the same thing, it’s just an alternate reality. I’ve never heard of a Spider-Verse. You know like Enter the Spider-Verse, the movie. Get out of here, sorry, this one’s above your pay grade.

Would that Instagram poster say you guys must be 50, because there’s so much white in your beard. There’s white in everybody’s beard, there’s only one white beard in here. That chick was like, no it was a guy, it was a guy, no I thought it was, remember the one chick, the chick was, you guys are so inappropriate, like 350-year-olds shouldn’t be making, no it was a chick bro, girls would never, for me oh dude that was a chick, and then there was no, none of us are even close to 50, how do we all look like we’re 50, I’m not even mid-30s yet, Jesus Christ, I looked that old, the camera added like 20 years, the bags under my eyes, like I’m tired.

So anyway, imagine, now we have to explain to him Spider, have a better example, to me, I’m just speaking for the listeners here, the voice of the demographic, the voice of the listeners. So in the Spider-Man universe there is an alternate universe essentially that almost mirrors the universe we’re in, but there’s infinite variations of them, so it’s like there’s a Jorge but he’s a little bit different, he went his own path. If you see the Loki show it does it better because it’s all the same time, it’s just splinters of that timeline, so everything is, all the people are the same age and similar things have happened, it’s just certain decisions at certain things. Consider like the butterfly effect, like if you change one thing how it could actually change a timeline, for example if you went back 10 years ago and you did something different, would you be here, what would have changed from one decision change.

Okay, so they’re saying that there is an actual, there’s all these alternate timelines, alternate realities. One of the theories behind this is, so I don’t know if you guys know what CERN is, heard of CERN. CERN is the European Organization for Nuclear Research, I don’t know how that stands for that acronym but it does. So CERN is like an intergovernmental organization and they pretty much are the largest particle physics laboratory in the world. So they study atoms and the universe in relation to physics, and to try to understand the universe better, understand how we exist, that’s pretty much what their goal is. They’re in a suburb of Geneva, so they’re like on the France-Switzerland border there, and they were started in 1954, and there’s actually 23 member states, and they say member states which is really countries, 23 countries that are involved in CERN.

So they have a bunch of different particle accelerators. So pretty much what a particle accelerator is, you take like an atom of something, let’s say iron or whatever, and it’s the base atom and it’s in a tube, this massive tube, and you make it go fast, accelerate it, and then you see what happens. So the biggest thing CERN’s really known for is for making the world’s largest particle collider, and it’s called a Large Hadron Collider. So in essence what that is, it’s 100 feet underground or 150 feet underground and it’s approximately 17 miles in circumference, it’s a giant massive tube in a giant circle, and they accelerate atoms and they smash two atoms together and then they see what happens, and they’ve discovered new particles.

And in essence why they were doing it, they were trying to do a multitude of things, they were trying to see if they could discover what they deemed the God particle, how the universe was created. They also wanted to see if they could create dark matter or anti-matter, and also if they could create miniature black holes. Okay, so that’s the purpose, that’s why they created this. So is this a real thing or is this like an Illuminati kind of thing. No no, this is a real thing, it’s there, there’s over 10,000 scientists and hundreds of universities and laboratories throughout hundreds of countries that are involved in CERN. Wow.

They did the first run of it in 2008, the first time they actually collided two particles, right before the recession. And then it’s only been run like three times or four times. The theory is that when they did this in 2008, when they first slammed these two particles together that are going close to light speed, it created in essence an infinite expanse of different altered realities. You know when you think about it, like they’re trying to create like a black hole, so maybe they did create a black hole and then they create all these parallel realities or different timelines that things change, and it doesn’t change like your life, you’re still doing what you’re doing, but it just changes little things. Like that’s the idea, that in 2008 a new timeline could have changed, like we went on to a new path. I don’t know what the different things were, what, we caught Osama Bin Laden, Obama’s elected, we had the recession, you know what I mean, like what are the major things.

The concept is that while our consciousness stays the same, we’re moved into a different reality, and so that’s why you catching these little things, well I thought this was this. And I think this kind of coincides with the concept of deja vu, you know, it’s like you’ve experienced, I’ve had a million times where I’ve done this exact thing before, and it’ll be something stupid like I’m at the store and I pick up a shirt, and I’m like what the, I’ve done this. So yeah, that’s okay, that’s actually my favorite, that’s my theory, because it’s wild. The reason I like it so much is because they start experimenting with stuff that no one knows what’s going to happen, you know, you slam these two particles together and, because our common perception is that an atom is the smallest thing there is, it’s the component part of all things, mass and matter is created out of atoms.

And which is, you know, I always get super deep having weird talks, you realize that everything that you see is comprised of 99.999 repeating space, empty space, everything is comprised of literally empty space, 99% of all, down to its core, if you look at an atom, an atom is 99.999% empty space, because it’s the nucleus and it’s just empty space and then a couple electrons flying around, that’s all it is, it’s empty space. We’re like literally all matter is empty space, like swallow that down because that’s actual science, we are just empty space, really interesting concept. There are things that are smaller than atoms, that’s what I’m saying, when you break an atom up there’s things that’s smaller than atoms, like the quantum realm.

I do like the concept of accidental chaos compared to sinister. No, I don’t think, because it seems if this were real, it was an accident, they’re like let’s see what happens, it was accidental, they didn’t do it on purpose. Yeah it wasn’t some evil guy going, you know, we got to change the timeline here, and they picked 2008. Why go to 2008 too, you know what I mean, there are a lot bigger moments in time, that’s interesting, that’s crazy.

And the last one is just the internet. What, oh, just changed. Yeah, like the influence and the ability of the internet to say something and then it gets repeated and then it goes viral, you’re getting hit with it all the time at all angles, and then it becomes your reality. So kind of like when things become a meme, or like a catchy jingle or something, that’s what you think, it just becomes your reality. Oscar Meyer wiener, Oscar Mayer.

So at the beginning of all of it I was like this is so, but the fact that there’s so many, and this isn’t all of them, I just picked one, it must be, here’s my only logical explanation for it, it must be just a thing that we get wrong and then it keeps growing, one person messed it up and then it’s like the telephone game, like you play telephone and then by the end burrito it was paperweight, I don’t know how we got here. But I have no explanation for Jif, I have no explanation for Michael, I have no explanation for Queen, there is, most of the Bears, it’s the Bears, I’ve read those books a million times, it’s not stain, they changed it.

I wonder, I would love to ask a different culture, maybe the Jewish culture because it’s a Jewish name, Berenstein, Bernstein, it is, yeah it’s very Jewish, okay. So I wonder if, oh maybe because those curls, I mean I’m guessing we’re going to look this up later, but Berenstein, it’s a very, okay, anyways I’m just saying I wonder what they would think, because in their youth maybe they thought it was Berenstein, maybe, and then we were just idiots Americans, you know what I mean, the name Bernstein, trust me, Bernstein. I don’t know where you’re at Jorge.

Okay so this was a little bit of a trippy episode because there’s so many of these things that, I just would have bet so much money that it was not, you know, this Mandela effect, I just think that it just catches fire somehow some way, mostly with social media nowadays. Yeah I definitely believe a lot of these are probably because of the internet. Interestingly it started in 2008, which is probably when social media started. Well I mean when was Facebook, oh yeah 2007. So the Mandela effect was coined in 2009, so which I think it’s kind of a coincidence with that, because that’s when it started in 2009, that’s when the name got coined, but the actual Mandela effect was even back to when he was released from prison, or most people thought he died. That’s when it was in 2009, that’s when it really came to light.

Wait what, because she thought she remembered that he died in the 80s. But I think it’s interesting that in 2009 she’s like wait what’s happening, and then one year before, you know, CERN’s smashing some atomic particles together, you know, somebody with influence, some influencer or celebrity or whatever’s like, it’s the Berenstain Bear, yeah it is. But like even the hello Clarice, how the hell did that come about. I don’t know, everyone knows that, you ask, that’s what I’m saying, somebody with like influence made fun of it, some sort of scary movie, authority or influence person or personality or show or whatever. I instantly on the Monopoly guy I go to Ace Ventura, do not pass go, you know what I mean, that was my instant thing. So I’m assuming any proper millennial will go there, of course, that’s what ties together.

Or the older generation even too, the Boomers, no, the next one up, Gen X, Jorge whatever he is. That was a sick burn, oh my God, we went over it in detail last episode, how dare you, that’s right, yeah we did, go back and watch that or listen to that one just for that. All right, what do you think Eric. Yeah I think it’s just culturally we got it wrong and then it stuck, I hate to say it, but so many things, it is wild. But I just think we got it wrong and then it just grabbed hold. And get why do we get it wrong so many, I think it’s just like Oscar Mayer, somebody just said it wrong and then it was so much easier to say than Oscar Meyer, I mean it’s not that much easier, but it’s just catchier I guess, I’d have to look at the jingles, maybe the jingles had to play.

I think it’s possible, because reality is an independent thing, you know, reality is what’s defined by what you deem real, and you deem what’s happening. But I do think that when you start slamming stuff together and trying to see what happens and trying to create black holes, some stuff could go awry. I agree with you, I don’t know enough about it to know what they were doing. I mean I think that’s the thing, like nobody does, even the scientists don’t know what they’re doing. You want to hear the jingle. Sure. But maybe it’s Mayers, maybe it’s pronounced Mayer. So that’s what I’m saying, but they just got it wrong, no but maybe, or they just changed it, no but maybe Meyer is spelled that way, for sure, so I’m saying maybe that’s just how it’s pronounced, like maybe that’s just pronounced Mayer. Gotcha. Even like we’re Americans we’re like no that’s not how it’s pronounced, it’s definitely, it’s Meyer not, not even close, it’s definitely wild.

I would say about four or five of those are what blew my mind a bit, you know what I mean, same. I would say Jif, I would say Queen, Queen, the Berenstain Bears like I said, I go back to that, I think I showed you that, I showed you stain and then I showed him the guy who it was like an Instagram reel and had it old Berenstein Bears book, and I was like how did this happen, they messed up one book. All right well there you go, that’s the Mandela effect guys, we’ll put up another poll and see what you believe, if the Mandela effect is a real thing, if we’re just a bunch of, and you know I don’t know. All right everybody, night night, see you. You’ve been hit by, you’ve been hit by.