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There are unexplained deaths, brutal murders, disappearances, and systemic failures that have scarred generations. This is the dramatic story of Fort Hood’s dark legacy, a tale that unfolds over 80 years in acts of heroism, but also in horror, negligence, and conspiracy. Mhm. Fort Hood began as a a quickly built war camp in 1942 carved out of a central Texas ranch land during the darkest days of World War II. To give you an idea of where it is, it’s a little bit north of Austin. Yep. Yeah. Okay. You kind of know where this is? Yeah. Yeah, you do. Okay. So, there’s San Antonio and then right above that there’s Austin and then right above that there’s Colleen.

Yeah. And how close a lot of military presence all around there. How close is it to Waco? Do you know? Uh, how close? I would probably say two hour. Really? That’s pretty close. Yeah. I don’t remember the exactly, but yeah. So, above that is Waco and then Dallas. Mhm. Okay. Okay. The US Army needed wide open space to train tank destroyer units. Tank destroyer. That sounds because what had happened is the Nazis created something called the panzers. Oh my god. They were We needed to tank dominance. Yes. So, Khen was chosen because of it the vast plains as the tank training ground and the name Killen.

Yeah, good name. Kill. Good spot. But it was like hastily built. So, it was like quickly built. Uh, in in the rush to establish the post, the War Department displaced entire farming communities and even built a top indigenous settler graves. Well, classic [bleep] America, man. Destinies. Get the [bleep] out of here. We need this [bleep] tanks. So, what’s crazy is it’s like a vampire movie of like they they’re like, “Oh, this is a grave site for the Old West. Build on top of it. Build on top of it. Big trouble on Little Colleen.” Yeah. And here’s a quote from uh an article about it and it’s called sedimentary layers of desecration and displacement.

Damn, is what Fort Hood was built upon. Damn, that’s [bleep] dark. And not to mention, it’s on like Indian burial grounds. Like [bleep] Christ. You know it’s [bleep] going to get wild at night. Like everybody knows Indian barrel ground. Like those [bleep] are haunting us. It’s either vampires or some [bleep] wolf or some uh what what were those uh those creatures in the night we did? Uh yeah, that one skin. I was thinking like Steve, you have any weird dreams, man? Like uh I’m like an eagle and then like my head explodes. Like what the [bleep] They named it Fort Hood after John Bell Hood, who was a Confederate general.

Awesome. Name it after a Confederate general. What the [bleep] Of which he he owned a plantation, so he was a slaveholder. U so the Yeah, he was a Confederate general, but he didn’t own slaves. Come on. Anonymous namesake that some say cast the beginning curse. Yeah, cuz it’s already like booked. Early on, Fort Hood housed tens of thousands of young troops and even German prisoners of war from World War II. By 1950, it was made a permanent installation, dashing former land owners hopes of ever reclaiming the homestead. God, what? Like, you think they paid him like [bleep] too? They were like, “We’re going to give you like a third of it worth.” Trust me, the government left you.

Just trust me. Trust us. We’re going to give you this crypto, okay? We’re going to give it back. We’re just borrowing it. We’re going to give it back. This is like a 100-year lease, but for no money. The surrounding patriotic. The surrounding town was a dusty frontier outpost turned military boom town. It had its own troubled soul, though. In the mid 20th century, it was notorious for bigotry and a hotbed of clan. Well, I mean, it’s named after a Confederate general. I mean, that’s pretty obvious that it’s going to be a hot bed for the clan. At the time, if you were a like in the black community, it was known as do not travel through Killian.

Oh [bleep] Like it was like on the list. Yeah. Of this is not the spot to travel through. So interesting cuz I never like I never like would when I think of Texas, I don’t think of like big racism. Yeah. Like I go through like Mississippi or [bleep] Alabama like Okay. But like not like it’s a little west. Yeah. And it’s also like especially Austin, right? And also like 70% of the population is like Spanish. So it’s like it’s kind it’s pretty central. No, but there’s a lot of Confederate history there. Whatever. You know, Robert, there’s like Robert Actually, I went to a school. Roberty Lee like named after him.

Roberty Lee. Holy [bleep] What the [bleep] How did I not know that? Yeah. Damn. I didn’t Okay. Okay. Forgot to bring that up in our other learn about this guy [bleep] every day here. Somebody do a deep dive on Jorge. I’m going to have to I’m holding out a little bit for each episode. I think he’s a he’s like a he’s a double agent here. Are there double agent of the Confederates? Like against my own people. So it wasn’t until the late 1950s that any black families actually moved into Killian. Um yet as soldiers poured back from overseas during the war, meaning the the war ended in World War II and the Korean War.

Uh so then soldiers then poured back into Texas. They brought change and they settled in Killian adding new cultures to the town whose identity became inseparable from the base. So then welcome to like welcome to like the real world bros. Come on. But beneath the patriotic facade, tension simmerred. In 1966, three young Fort Hood soldiers, later dubbed the Fort Hood 3, made headlines by refusing orders to go to Vietnam, calling the war unjust and accepting prison time rather than compromise their conscience. I mean, yeah. I mean, Vietnam was a [bleep] [bleep] show. Yeah. Like, yeah, it was it was dark in itself. Yeah, it was serious.

Especially because that was like one of the last main drafts. Yeah. Yeah. so forced. Yeah. Like you’re And it was also for like nothing like for no reason really. Like the reasons they gave were like super arbitrary. Yeah. You know what’s kind of uh upsetting personally. What is uh I was I was doing a little like I don’t know reading or whatever and I realized that I could I’m now too old to be drafted. Upsetting. That’s just No, I just like I’m now like pass You’re not even good enough for the military. Like I’m like, “Yeah, we don’t want you. You’re fine.” No. And I realized I was like, “Oh, man.

So, if I was this age in World War II, I’d be like left behind or Eric’s like men tending the kitchen.” Yeah. I’m like selling war bonds. I imagine like your wife’s like, “Oh my god, can we just leave the house? Get the [bleep] out of here.” Isn’t that a weird realization? Anyways, yeah, I really You’re too old to be Yeah, you’re [bleep] useless. A strange thing is that I always, this is super weird, but I always liken my age to Aaron Rogers because I am born like a week away from Aaron Rodgers. And so if he’s still playing football, I always have this weird justifier in my head like I’m still young.

I’m still young. I gota I could be a quarterback right now. Sorry, just a quick a quick [bleep] a quick interjection. So one of my my good buddies sent me this reel. Well, this is Tyler and it’s real. It’s literally this guy and he’s like the super short guy. He comes and stands up on his stool and he’s like every single guy has the thought all the time that if they just like got their [bleep] together and whatever like they could be an elite athlete and it’s like and I do I do it all the time. But he’s like, but then randomly you’ll see an elite athlete or like you’re happen to like play sports against elite athlete and you realize that you’re so far away.

You’re so far away from that level that it’s not real. And then eventually you forget about it and then you go back to thinking that I just got [bleep] like bootstrapped it up like ate good worked out. I could definitely be elite. I literally tell myself that all the time. Like oh I could be elite. I can do it. I could not be elite. There’s no zero. When Aaron Rogers retires, I’m going to go into a deep state of depression. Yeah. Because it’s me. Well, get retiring. Like, it’s Get ready. Come come come to Eric at the beginning of next year. He might take a little break.

You think he has one more? No, he’s done after this year, dude. So, this is this is the last year. This is it. 100%. He said this or this is the end. Yeah, this is it. I mean, [bleep] He started the season last year and literally to kill first game, right? First game. First like second to the killer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I a few years later in 1968, 43 African-American GIS stationed at Fort Hood refused to go into the draft and so they were court marshaled rather than deploy. What year was this again? 68. So this is this is civil rights hype. Yeah. I was just thinking exactly that and like the Muhammad Ali was going on and so there was that whole movement.

So anyways, all right. But I I’m just trying to tell you the story of the fort, you know, from the from the beginning. And the interesting thing is like I think that a draft in certain situations is necessary. A draft for Vietnam not necessary. Yeah. Like I think that was completely ridic for like World War II. It’s like the world is on the line. Like like we’re [bleep] What is more important? It’s like saving the world. Literally the world is on the line. So like that I’m like understood. That’s a good question. When is it okay? Civil Wars. Ah, [bleep] That’s a toughy. Do you know what I mean?

Like may we just did Lincoln, right? If you didn’t listen to Lincoln, go back to Lincoln. Civil War. Is that Civil War? The Civil War is interesting cuz I I don’t think that would really even like how does a Civil War even look in 2025? Like how does that even work? Like the old baristas boycott. I mean, what how does it actually work? What a great exercise. It’d be really weird. Like it’s See, I can see a civil war back in the day. That makes sense. I’m like, I can see how that works. But like now it just I don’t see it’s even possible. I I don’t even think it’s possible.

I almost feel like it would I’m trying to This is horrible. But I feel like it would be West Coast and Northeast against the rest. And then rap rat battle again or like big ice cube like No, you would have entire west coast. Yeah. And then you have northeast. Yeah, but I I I was good over here. No, you would be in the the winning sector. Well, I don’t know about the Well, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you’re telling me like the the no guns policy west coast and northeast are going to like win in a civil war? No way. Texas alone could probably usurp the entire [bleep] country.

I don’t know. It’s a great question. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know who would be the US government. Does that make sense? Like somebody would have to be the Maybe it should be a civil war against the government. Maybe it’s all of us versus DC. That’s a crazy that’s a crazy concept. I could do a whole episode on that. I I could do a whole episode on the the the present day civil war and what it Yeah. How does it what does it even look like? How does it even work? It’s more like an information war. Yeah. It’s like shitty tweets to the other side.

Had the fake news war. Yeah, I know. Amid the social turbulence, early tragedies at Fort Hood were often swept aside. Training accidents claimed lives in those years. Oh, what? Though they rarely made national news. One especially haunting incident occurred in 1977 when a young army private on a routine live fire exercise was accidentally shot and killed. A death recorded in base archives but essentially forgotten. Then there were whispers of murders, unexplained deaths. Old-times speak of a 1950s era soldier found dead under mysterious circumstances near the barracks. A case quietly closed without any answers. This reminds me of like what’s that movie like a general’s daughter.

Yes, exactly. Dude, literally like this is like text or Sam Jackson and John Travolto. Yeah, it’s like the general and a little mix of the Did you order the code red, dude? A few good names. What a classic. Yes, I did. You can’t [bleep] You want me on that ball? You need me on that wall. Yes, exactly, dude. Yeah, dude. What a [bleep] I might have to watch that classic. Yeah. If the rumors hold any truth, Fort Hood soil was seeded with secrets dating back to the 50s, foreshadowing what would come in the later days. Yeah. This is this also an interesting thing like we had brought it up in the Lincoln episode about the military tribunal.

Yes. And like the military is like it’s it is like cuz my my entire family on my mom’s side is in the military including my mom. Everyone’s in the military. Either in the Navy, Marines, my mom was in the Coast Guard. Like the military is like it’s its own like self- sustaining entity. It’s like not [bleep] real life. Because it’s it’s so different. Yeah. And like my my uncle was a drill sergeant for 30 years and now he works for like the [bleep] he works for like the NSA or some [bleep] right? Some he No. Uh he works for Homeland Intelligence. Yeah. So it’s just it’s just a different universe and like everything’s handled internally.

It’s like Yeah. It’s it’s bizarre how it’s so separate. It’s like so segregated from like real life society. Yeah. It’s like we handle our own [bleep] Really their own laws, their own court. It’s [bleep] weird. It’s actually weird. Anyways, as the Vietnam War ended and the Cold War began, Fort Hood settled into its role as one of the Army’s largest posts. a self-contained city in Texas, firing ranges, motor pools, chapels, barracks, tens of thousands of troops, and thousands of their family like all living in a community. It’s true. Just a quick side note, I know we’ve done a lot of lot of sidebars here, but my mom was born on a military base in San Francisco.

Really? And we went we went to it. It’s abandoned and it’s like a [bleep] ghost town. It’s massive. So it’s like it’s near Pebble Beach and it’s like this giant you know that one. It’s a giant abandoned military base and you can see it all the barracks are still there. The barracks are still there and so we walked around the barracks. It’s like it’s actually kind of eerie cuz it’s like it’s literally all these abandoned barracks and she was born on that base. If you’re going to drive to like Monteray or whatever and you pass it and you see it like it’s just empty barracks.

Yeah. So my mom my mom was born on that base. Really? I didn’t know that. That’s cool. She was born on that base. That’s cool. To the outside world, it was a pillar of American military might, launching soldiers to every conflict from Korea, Bosnia, Iraq, etc. Uh, but inside the gates, an undercurrent of violence and fatal misfortune persisted through the late 20th century. Some incidents were officially recorded as accidents and or suicides. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Others weren’t even recorded. In truth, Fortth Hood was acrewing a graveyard of unanswered mysteries. Do we have numbers like how many died? Oh, yeah. Okay, we’re going to go, bro.

Even off base, the nearby community was struck by horror on a fall day in ‘ 91 when a man walked into a cafeteria in Colleen and opened fire on an unsuspecting lunch crowd. It was considered one of the first mass shootings. Holy [bleep] What the [bleep] 23 people he killed in what cafeteria and this is like a this is in town. This is like a random in town like at a in Khen. 23 people died and at that time it was the biggest mass shooting in American history. Did was was the guy who shot He was he was a military guy who shot the people.

Several of the victims were family members of Fort Hood soldiers. Okay. enjoying a day off of post. While this Lubies cafeteria massacre did not occur on the base itself, it cast a long paw over the Fort Hood community and reminded everyone that violence could erupt anywhere around the surroundings. Jesus, that’s [bleep] wild. Soldiers who had survived combat overseas suddenly found their loved ones in danger in their own backyard. Yeah, cuz you think if you’re on a base, like you’re thinking we’re safe as f safest [bleep] place in the world. Yeah. Like also it’s not it’s not like San Antonio or a big city. It’s a small town.

This is a small town. Small. Yeah. Like the like for us here maybe Deneden. Yeah. Yeah. So what like 100 100,000 people? Less. I don’t think Dian has that many. Yeah. You think? I don’t think Den has 100,000. Yeah. I don’t think so. No, I think it’s less than that. Yeah. Tourists are like half. Yeah, for sure. I’m talking about like living res like who live there. I think it’s way less. Clear water’s big. Uh, St. Pete’s big. Well, no, the St. But no, the Tampa the Tampa St. Pete Clearwater area is four million people. Yeah, that’s the that’s the total area in the three and I think Yeah, Tampa’s obviously the biggest.

St. Pete is the second biggest. Mhm. And that’s four million people total across like a massive land area. Yeah, it was a grim precursor to what would happen later. Inside Fort Hood, training continued at a relentless pace, sometimes with deadly consequences. in June of 2007. Now you see how we’re like fast forward. We’re now in the 2000s during a brutal Texas summer right now. They’re brutal. How brutal are they though? Oh, give me a Florida. Different brutal than here cuz here is brutal with humidity. So, but we never break 100 here. Oh, no. No, we never. But humidity is [bleep] brutal. Yeah. If it’s 95 and it’s like right now 100% humidity, like you’re I’m soaking wet.

It’s a wet blanket. But at least you’re like sweating and [bleep] I don’t know. Over there it gets 115. Oh my god. So what does that but but it’s like dry. It just feels So the So in the shade you’re cool. Not that much. But the sun just beats. No, in the shade you’re It’s miserable. It’s still like It’s like an oven. I’m trying to know the feeling. You’ve been to You’ve been to uh Vegas. Like it’s very similar to that. But that’s humid though, huh? No. No, it’s not. Vegas is not humid at all. I [bleep] hate Vegas. Every time I go there, I’m like not humid.

One time I went to Phoenix and it was 100, but that was humid. No, but like see low for Phoenix. But when you when you go like Yeah. Like Arizona is is one of the things like it gets so hot that you could literally fry an egg in your car. Yeah. It’s so hot. But Texas is like that. But it’s like dry heat. So it’s like it’s a different type of heat where it’s like Yeah. It’s almost more abrasive because at least in in the humidity like you’re wet. Yeah. And so like at least you have a like you have moisture on your body. Well, I guess the same with Phoenix, but like I was going to say especially Colleen, you’re not close to the coast.

No, you’re not you’re not at all. So it just it sucks. Terrible. It’s like the desert. It’s literally the desert. Okay. Well, yeah. Like all the moisture in your body is evaporating into the atmosphere. So, in June 2007, during this brutal summer, 24year-old Sergeant Lawrence Sprrader set out on a routine navigation exercise on the base training grounds. He carried a map, a compass, a water, and a cell phone in case of trouble. Yet, somehow, Sprayer got lost in the wilds of Fort Hood’s 200,000 acres. Damn, that’s a lot of acres. Despite two cantens, a hydration pack, and days of desperate search by thousands of troops, he was then found dead from dehydration and heat stroke.

Oh my god, that’s the worst way to die. Oh [bleep] that would be like the absolute worst. Yeah. Uh, eerily, he collapsed really close to a creek. No, I thought you were going to say he collapsed like and he just 13 ft from the base. I was like, and he just didn’t find the creek. Can you imagine? That would have probably saved him. Anyways, this is this place. Yes. This is this is the story which is the string. It’s the burial ground. It’s the [bleep] Indian burial ground. Yes. The tragedy exposed stunning lapses. Over 300 soldiers had been made to run that navigation course in over 90° heat.

M the point was is were they given inadequate safeguards and dozens of other participants also fell ill or and end with uh heat stroke andor loss of life. Yeah, it definitely feels like this base is like they didn’t have any guidelines. They’re like live fire accidents. I’m like everything is getting [bleep] up here. Uh the official investigation found that there were various missteps in the planning and oversight of the training. That’s exactly what I think. Yeah. Really weird. Six leaders were disciplined for negligent endangerment of troops. But by discipline does it say like what they they were like we’ll dock you one week’s pay. Yeah.

Or you’re bumped down to sergeant. Order the code red on them. Code red. Code red. You want me on that wall? You need me on that wall. God, dude. Jack is a [bleep] dude. What a legend. I am. Fort Hood commanders vowed to improve safety, but for many, Sprader’s needless death underscored a systemic failure. A willingness to push soldiers to the brink to become the best soldiers that they can be for America, but without proper care, a theme that would echo later in more crises. Yeah. Because like you could be the best soldier ever, but if you’re dead, you’re not a soldier. I’m just being I’m being honest.

Like if you’re letting people just die all the time, like that doesn’t forward your cause, doesn’t help you at all. I know, but if we had maybe like a guest on that was like a a SEAL Yeah. and they what they went through to like push you to the limit to make you but I get I get pushing you to the limit, but you don’t see like seals in SEAL school just dying all the time. Yeah, they do. Not all the time. Not like this. No, but no, not like this. Like they’re still like being monitored. But this is also in the 60s, right? What was it?

No. 200. We were in 2007, bro. I was like 2007. I’m like homies shouldn’t be dying right now. Like they got to like Yeah, you push them to the limit, but like say like they didn’t know as much or even have as much. I don’t know. Like technology. Yeah, exactly. I get that. In the 60s it’s like you can’t like track you can’t put like a little [bleep] an Apple tag and like hold his like [bleep] clothes and know where he’s at. Back then you also like man up, you know, [bleep] Yeah. Nowadays, they’re like, “We’re going to give him a little break. He’s got a 6 canteen of water.

He’s fine.” By the late 2000s, Fort Hood was a base on edge. The wars in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan had strained the army, and soldiers cycled through grueling deployments, often bringing the psychological scars of battle back home to the fort. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Violent incidents began to punctuate life on post. Some were domestic disputes turned deadly. Others defied explanation. In 2008, a young military spouse was found stabbed to death in her onpost housing. Oh [bleep] dude. Jeez. Whispers spread that her soldier husband might be the culprit, but he had an alibi and the case went cold, leaving a lingering chill of fear among the community.

Dude, he [bleep] did it. Let’s be real. Like, I mean, come on. You don’t know anything. You don’t know any facts. I don’t need to know the facts. like homie did it. And that was one of the first like um everybody started to get scared. Oh, for sure. Right. Like it’s one thing to you know a soldier dehydrates. He’s Yeah. He’s out there in the in the in the in the bush. Yes. It’s another when a young woman gets stabbed. Oh. In her own in her own [bleep] house. Exactly. Yeah. And no one goes to No one Oh, we don’t know who did it. Mhm.

Yeah. [bleep] that. And the guy had an alibi. What was it? What was his alibi? I was at the bar with Jimmy. Yeah, he was he was here, brother. I was at the Killian bar. It’s Colleen. Yeah, I know. God damn. Stop it. At the turn of the new decade, so like 2010, tragedy struck Fort Hood in a way that shocked the nation. On November 5th, 2009, soldiers gathered at a readiness center to prepare for upcoming deployments. An army psychiatrist named Major Naidil Hassan suddenly opened fired on fellow troops. What the [bleep] Soldiers thought it was a drill initially until Hassan began methodically shooting everyone in his path, shouting Allah Akbar.

Oh my god. In a twisted perversion of the Muslim faith, pandemonium erupted within minutes. 13 people were dead, 32 more wounded in the worst mass shooting ever to occur on a base. Jesus. This is actually The other one was off base. It was off base. It was in the town. Yeah. And there was 23 people. This is now the worst military shooting to that date on a military base. Assan was finally confronted, stopped when two civilian police officers bravely engaged him. Uh, Sergeant Kimberly Moonley was shot and wounded. Sergeant Mark Todd managed to fire the rounds that brought Hassan down. The killer survived. Oh my god.

Was taken into custody and eventually sentenced to death by a military jury tribunal for 13 counts of premeditated murder. I mean, let’s be let’s be honest. Like, he would on the base. He would have been sentenced to death in a regular court, too. Let’s let’s be real. He killed 13 people. Like, he’s getting sentenced to death. And to this day, and Texas still has capital [bleep] still has capital. Yeah. Oh, for sure. 100%. Yeah. So, they have uh death penalty. Yeah, it’s capital murder crimes. Yeah. Fort Hood reeled in the aftermath. How could an army officer, a doctor, a psychiatrist sworn to care for soldiers betray and massacre his own?

Investigations revealed that Hassan had been struggling with extremist beliefs and mental health issues and even communicated with a radical cler clerk yet remained in uniform the whole time. So he like expressed that he had these like thoughts and his his uh uh zeal to a extremist Muslim. Yeah. See, it’s weird. It’s weird cuz like we we like experience this, but like if you actually the the real Muslim belief isn’t about killing people. I know. It’s really not. It’s actually not. Like if like it’s if you look here about Yeah. If you look into it, it’s not about killing the infidels. It’s it’s really not. It’s not at all.

It’s just weird how that that is what you see and then then people make a decision about like if you really look at the the statistics Islam is is the largest is the largest religion on earth. There’s over two billion people who are Muslim subscribe to it. Yeah. Yeah. But the radical portion of them is such a small portion of that number. Yeah. They’re the ones that make the noise though. So exactly. Uh, families mourn the slain, memorializing them with 13 granite pillars in Khen, one for each life cut short. Jesus, man. So [bleep] Uh, the base commander at the time declared that Fort Hood would heal and lessons would be learned.

God, it seems like if you like the commander of Fort Hood, you’re just like destined for failure. Yeah. Like non-stop fuckups. Literally. Uh, unfortunately, he was wrong. Yep. What do you know? And it was not the last time that Fort Hood’s ground would be stained with blood. Less than 5 years later, on April 2nd, 2014, a active duty soldier unleashed violence. Uh Ivan Lopez, an Iraq war veteran, went on a shooting spree at several locations in the fort, killing three fellow soldiers and wounding 14 others before turning the gun on himself and shooting himself. Oh Jesus. Lopez had been grappling with mental health issues, frustrations, and an argument about leaving about his leave of absence paperwork that apparently set him off because he didn’t get it approved for it.

HR didn’t approve my time off. Let’s go. There’s the thing. It’s like it’s crazy. Most people don’t know, including myself. Like, I don’t know what it’s like being at war. I don’t know what it’s like shooting and killing another person or or other people trying to kill me and struggling for life. I don’t know what that does to you. I I really don’t know. I can’t I can’t speak to it, but I can imagine it’s [bleep] up. Yeah. Or like uh you know your friend you lose Oh, you you watch Yeah. You watch like your best friend get killed right in front of you. That’s rough.

That’s an incident. Oh, for sure. That’s a That’s like and that’s something that you can’t just like wake up, you know, it’s not like, oh, I lost in fantasy football. I’m going to wake up and like live another day. It’s it’s a little more intense than that. Yeah. At this point, soldiers began to speak about a curse. Oh, yeah. I mean, we’ve been speaking about a curse and I knew nothing about this. The curse of Fort Hood, a darkness that seemed to hang over the Texas plains. leaders once again promised reform, better mental health screening, tighter security, vigilance for any sort of warning sign. So, you know, like trying to be proactive uh on the base.

Yet, many on the base felt a gnawing unease that something was fundamentally wrong with the culture of Fort Hood. Even as these headline grabbing events took place, other crimes and scandals began to brew under the radar and not in the news. In 2015, it came to light that a sexual assault prevention officer at Fort Hood, Sergeant Firstclass Gregory McQueen, had himself been running a prostitution ring. Oh my god, this is so [bleep] up. Recruiting young female soldiers and even cashstrap single mothers for sex work. McQueen was eventually court marshaled and dishonor honorably discharged for pimping. That’s it. On post. That’s all he got was a dishonorable discharge.

This revelation disgusted and outraged fellow soldiers even more on the fact of the curse of Fort Hood. Jesus. Especially because it’s his job to prevent Right. That’s what I was going to say. I was just about to say the very That’s like the uh [bleep] No, never mind. It’s not like that. I was going to say like the cold plate. Yeah. Like she’s HR. She’s HR. This is like me being HR. I’m the vice I’m like literally the chief people officer and I’m [bleep] the boss who’s married and she’s married. Yeah. You know what? I I think we have a policy against internal relationships, especially with when you’re both married.

Yeah. And then there’s another like sea-le person there who’s also married who knows what’s happening just like sitting there laughing. One girl. Yeah. The chick is laughing. She’s also a sea level exec there. I’m like, “Dude, like she was like fake laughing like nerv nervous nervous. I’m [bleep] They’re [bleep] We’re all fucked.” Yeah, we’re all [bleep] God, I hate gold play. I love gold play. Ah, [bleep] I know. The very person tasked with protecting the troops from the sexual exploitation had been the one exploiting them in the first place. and so [bleep] This betrayal deepened a growing distrust amongst the lower ranks. If one couldn’t even trust the army’s gatekeepers, who could you trust?

By the nobody. Yeah. By the mid210s, Fort Hood’s name was becoming synonymous with trouble. A chilling pattern of fatal incidents started to emerge, often dismissed as accidents or isolated crimes. but in hindsight forming a tapestry of dysfunction. And we’ll figure out at the end of this whether or not we believe this is what’s Yeah. Like what’s occurs? Yeah. Exactly. Staff Sergeant Anthony Levelvel, a 40-year-old cavalry scout, disappeared from the base in July of 2017. Two days later, his body was found in a creek bed. His face gruesomely split. Oh, his eyes pecked away by scavengers. So I think he was like killed like he was like that little corpse drop off.

Authorities concluded. No foul play. Nothing to see here. Did Is he even dead? Is it even real? Let’s talk to the witnesses. Natural causes natural causes. Authorities concluded Levelvel had died in a motorcycle accident and the wildlife disturbed the remains later. Motorcycle accident in the creek and nobody found him. What do they like? How do you crash into a creek? Yeah, there’s no motorcycle near. But maybe but the circumstances were eerie, especially given that the very same street would later be the site of another soldier’s death. Okay. In November of 2017, Private Justin Ogden was found dead in his quarters from a gunshot wound. It was ruled suicide, but Ogden’s mother noted that the supposed suicide note in his belongings didn’t even match his handwriting, raising the painful questions that the army never answered and or never cared.

He’s also shot in like the back of the head and they’re like, “Yeah, it’s legit.” That’s That same year in March, another soldier, Shelby Jones, was shot to death outside a Killian strip club after an altercation. In January of 2016, Staff Sergeant Deon Chute was discovered lifeless in his pickup truck on post. A hose was running from the exhaust into the cab in what was apparent suicide. Can they just shut this [bleep] base down? Like, just get a new base. What the [bleep] Devin had nine stab wounds. Oh my god. Wow. This is like This is like a So we were talking about the Oklahoma City guy.

He was literally like found dead and he committed suicide but he was like stabbed multiple like So the weird part on Devon shoot is that it was ruled a suicide but that meant that he put the you know how they killed you know okay you know he stabbed himself nine times and then suffocated to death in the car. You know how you do the the the suicide where you Yeah. the carbon monoxide from the So you park in a garage. Yeah. And you put a tube hose from the blow your windows up and you’re like put it into your car, right? But then he had nine stab wounds.

No, I’m I’m sorry, but no one can like stab themselves n like stab yourself one time and you’re like, “Fuck, this sucks.” Totally. There’s no way you’re stabbing yourself nine times. Also, I don’t care how depressed I am, I’m not stabbing myself. No, but dude, you can stab yourself once yourself. Yeah, but Eric or or you do the the the carbon monoxide thing or whatever, but not stab yourself. No. Nine. Nine times. Nine. I I bet Eric gets maybe a one and a half stab. I was like one and a half. Like you you like pull back on the second one. You’re like, “Fuck, this sucks.” Not nine.

The reason I grow the beard is cuz I don’t like shaving. You’re afraid you’re just [bleep] slit your own throat. Yeah. Just to give you an idea with your [bleep] Mach Five razor. Incredibly, the Army investigators ruled it a suicide. Oh my god. The family was in disbelief and anguish and almost like an apathy. These lesserk known cases became open secrets on the base with the soldiers. Whispers became something’s wrong here. There’s too many deaths. There’s too many suicides. They don’t add up. And too many families were left without real answers. I mean, it doesn’t take a [bleep] rocket scientist to see that like this place is not a good something’s off here.

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Okay. It’s pretty recent. It’s 5 years ago. Yeah. But the other stuff Yeah. I didn’t I didn’t know [bleep] about this. Yeah. Nothing. Meaning it just didn’t get the All I hear about is, you know, Trump’s [bleep] titty pig. I don’t hear [bleep] about any of this stuff. In the spring of 2020, a perfect storm of horror engulfed Fort Hood. It began with a single missing soldier and grew into a national scandal that exposed the base’s darkest underbelly. Specialist Vanessa Guen, a 20-year-old small arms repairer, vanished from her armory on April 22nd. No trace. The day she disappeared, Guan had come in on her day off to square away paperwork and weapons, dressed in casual workout clothes, so not military garb.

Yeah, that’s right. She was last seen in the arms room around noon where another soldier specialist Aaron David Robinson was also present. That afternoon, Vanessa stopped answering her phone. An ominous silence for someone who texted her family constantly. I mean, this is 2020. I was like, “Don’t you have [bleep] cameras up in this bitch?” Like, it’s 2020. Like, where are the cameras at? Also, you’re G you know, you tell your wife you’re going to I’m stopping at Chick-fil-A on the way home. You have you have your phone you have your phone in your hand like constantly. It’s also like this is the armory. They’re not going to have cameras in the armory.

Like, true. Like, what the [bleep] By nightfall, her mother and sisters in Houston felt a dread. Vanessa’s father even felt sharp chest spasms at the very hour she went missing. Meaning they were like they were on it. They were like something was off. You feel it. Something something’s wrong. When her family alerted Fort Hood that Vanessa hadn’t been heard from they were met with a shrug and she’ll probably make it back in the morning and they were suggested to file a report. Of course, [bleep] bureaucrats. The next morning though, Vanessa did not turn up. As days stretched into weeks, no sign of the bright, athletic young soldier.

Her family’s desperation turned into determined action. They flooded social media. Oh, [bleep] yeah. 100%. Photos, uh, flyers, uh, hashtags, etc., and theyounded the base command for answers. What they heard, though, was troubling. Vanessa’s car keys, bank card, and ID had been found in the armory where she worked. evidence she hadn’t left of her own accord. Oh yeah, she was like taken because no one No one leaves all that. Yeah, I can see you leaving one like, “Oh [bleep] I forgot my bank card. I forgot my keys.” But if you lose your key, if you leave your keys, you’re coming back for the keys. That’s right.

Fellow soldiers whispered that Vanessa had recently confided in friends that she was being sexually harassed by somebody. God damn it. She was afraid to report it though, for fear of retribution. No. Yeah. See, the military is a different animal. It’s like Yeah. It’s not like especially as a woman. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? It’s kind of It’s not It’s not as cut and dry as like Oh, that’s a man. You’re at like you’re at the office job and like you go to like the HR thing and you’re like, “Hey, like Bill’s like being a weird.” Yeah. Her mother, Gloria, recalled Vanessa losing weight and admitting someone at work was bothering her.

Even if especially if it’s a superior officer, too. like, um, what are you going to [bleep] do? But she, Vanessa wouldn’t name the culprit for fear of retaliation. Soon, a name did emerge. Specialist Aaron Robinson. Was that the guy that was that was the guy that was there? Oh, I’m also working long hours. Weeks passed without any sort of official breakthrough, but ominous signs accumulated. Investigators learned that on the night Vanessa disappeared, Robinson had left the base and called his girlfriend multiple times in the early morning. Witnesses had seen him wheeling a large black case out of the arms room that evening. [bleep] Oh my god.

Struggling under its weight, then driving off quickly. The pieces were falling into place, but still nobody and no confession. Meanwhile, as the search for Vanessa intensified, social media started to get real. See that? See, that’s what I was saying when we did the [bleep] Epste [bleep] It’s like, you make enough noise, they [bleep] have to do something about it. Yep. Fort Hood itself seemed to descend into chaos. Within days of her disappearance, other soldiers began turning up dead in rapid secession. What the [bleep] is going on at this place? On April 23rd, Brandon Rose Cray was found shot to death. His Jeep was set a fire.

What the [bleep] And his Jeep was put into a ditch. This place is like the wild west, dude. In May, Neor Morta drowned under mysterious circumstances in the nearby lake. May 18th, another soldier, Private First Class Gregory Morales, was discovered as a skeletal remains in a field just outside of town. That how long? Wait, what? This is two months. Skeletal remains. They didn’t know he was gone. How is he a skeleton? Wendle had been missing for 10 months, but was mistakenly labeled as a deserter. And now his bones were finally found and foul play was suspected. What the [bleep] This place is a [bleep] show.

In late May and I’m I’m going to go. I’m going to try to do I’m going to try to do one breath. Right. In In late May and June, a string of suicides then hit the ranks. Sergeant Brad Reynolds took his life on May 16th. Staff Sergeant Richard Harrington on May 27th. uh specialist James Gabriel on June 23rd. The total These are all suicides. Suicides all happening within a 90day period of Vanessa disappearing, too. Sounds like loose ends. The toll was staggering. It felt as though the curse was unleashed. Oh, dude. This is I mean, if it has already hadn’t been unleashed, [bleep] By July, Fort Hood lost more soldiers in homicide, suicide, accidents, etc.

in just those few months than an entire year of war. What the [bleep] Wow. On June 30th, not reporting on this [bleep] Yeah. What the [bleep] are you guys doing? On June 30th, 2020, the Guen family’s worst fears were confirmed. Acting on a tip, search team seems scouring a rural area near the river, Leyon River, 20 miles from Fort Hood. Found a shallow grave finding dismembered body parts of Vanessa. Burned dismembered body parts. Dude, I can’t even imagine this. I mean, I would go I would go full commando mode. Like, yeah, straight up. Like, it gets a little worse. Uh, investigators found a charred steel lid uh of a tough box like the kind that you would use to transport weapons.

Yeah. Near the side the kind that he was wheeling out. Yeah. And they uncovered the concrete caked human remains in Yeah. Please tell me this [bleep] guy got like the death pole. Like please God. Like give me some like sort of like win out of this. Like [bleep] this guy. There was some evidence of this girl named Sicily Aguular and she was the girlfriend of Robinson. Okay. The one who we try to call late in the morning. Yeah. She cracked. Oh. She was like, he did it. And told agents the horrifying truth. Robinson had bludgeoned Vanessa to death with a hammer. Dude, for reasons that we still don’t know.

He then stuffed her body into a box. After dark, he picked up Aguilar, the girl, drove to the Leyon River site. Together, they tried to dispose of Oh, she was with him. Yes. This [bleep] [bleep] They tried to dispose of the body. First, they tried to hack the body with a m machete. Oh my [bleep] god. That only went so far. Then they tried to burn her. Then they finally just buried the remains under the concrete and the rocks. Oh my [bleep] god. So she’s definitely [bleep] too. Oh yeah, she better accomplice. Yeah, you’re part of the conspiracy, you [bleep] [bleep] What happened next only compounded the rage.

Rather than immediately arresting Robinson, army commanders bizardly held him overnight and he was reportedly detained for simply violating COVID 19 restrictions. Oh my god, I don’t trust anybody. A grotesque technicality given the circumstances. I literally don’t trust anything anymore. On July 1st, as word spread that Vanessa’s remains had been found and Robinson was a prime suspect, he escaped. Are you Oh my god. Are you [bleep] This is worse than This is literally This is literally worse than the [bleep] Abraham Lincoln bridge, guys. We’re on military lockdown. Okay, you guys are cool. The 20-year-old fled the base and led local police on a chase through the town.

Cornered on a street not far from where Anthony Levelvel’s body had been found three years earlier, Robinson pulled out a pistol, shot himself. [bleep] coward. He would never face justice. Uh obviously, I mean, you know, Well, yeah, he’s [bleep] dead. Yeah. Uh Sicily, however, was arrested and later indicted by federal authorities as an accessory to help mutilate a body. Please tell me she got at least 25. 25 to life. She ultimately plead guilty and in 2023 received 30 years for prison in prison. [bleep] you. [bleep] Have [bleep] fun. You [bleep] piece of [bleep] She’s 20 though. She’s I don’t [bleep] care. She’s going to be out when she’s my age.

Yeah. Have fun getting a job, you [bleep] piece of [bleep] Vanessa Guillon’s murder was the flash point that ignited a firestorm. By mid 2020, hundreds of people were now protesting Fort Hood as an overall institution. No, but Eric, just so you know, like she got 30 years for helping to bury the body. She didn’t kill her. That’s right. That’s true. But like I’m not saying like she’s any good. Like she’s the piece. She’s She deserves every second. Every I think life would be great. But 30 I’ll take I’ll take I’ll take 30. Especially cuz of how they [bleep] Is she really going to have a life?

Is she going to have a [bleep] life? I don’t know. After spending 30 years in prison, it’s one thing. She’s going to be like bagging your [bleep] groceries at Publix. No. It’s one thing though if like Sean calls me and he’s like, “Dude, I messed up and like I [bleep] up.” And I’m like, “Hey, I can’t be part of it. We’re going to go hurt some people. You’re not going to ask me anything about it?” No, but she cut the body. Not calling Eric. No, no, no. No, no, no. I’m saying I’m saying No, no, no. I’m saying I’m just saying she cut the body up.

Yeah, that’s Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like she didn’t say like, “Hey, man, this is bad. What do we” And especially it’s like your girlfriend and you’re like, “Why did you kill this chick? Cut the [bleep] body up. Burn the body.” And in Yeah, maybe I think life’s better. I think life’s better. But meanwhile, you’re like, “Fucking Mary Mary Sarra. She’s Why? Why did she get her?” Yeah. Okay. Sure, buddy. Phil, it’s a different story. Whatever you say. Yeah, it’s a different story. Go back. It’s almost worse. It is. It’s almost worse. She facilitated the murder of the president. I don’t. What do you mean you don’t know about that?

We don’t know the evidence. Yes, we do. We did a whole episode on that. Okay. Anyways, five hours. Anyways, yeah, I agree. She [bleep] out life, but you know what? 30 years is better than 20. Yeah. Yeah. But the point being now is that everybody’s fed up with the fort. Yeah. I’m sorry. They started protesting uh you know, Vanessa’s family uh they turned a grief into aism. So instead of like being, oh, we’re not going to do anything, they just Oh, no. Hell yeah. Yeah. They went on national TV. Good for that. They met with Trump. They met with Biden. They demanded a congressional investigation.

Great. [bleep] excellent. They they spoke for countless military families when they were accused the army of failing to protect their daughter. They failed us. That’s their quote. They did. They failed hard. Yeah. Yeah. 2020 was a year of reckoning for Fort Hood. All told, at least 39 soldiers died or went missing in one year. That is that is that’s so how is that even possible? Like the tally includes five homicides, 13 suicides, 11 cases still unsolved. Uh these numbers eclipsed the American combat deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan that year. I mean, are they going to do like what what is the military doing? How can you turn that many blind eyes?

I don’t even if it was one and they’re like, let’s not look at it. But if this many or even if it was one year, it’s not just that one year. Oh my god. Uh in 2021, a Bell County operation nabed six more active duty Fort Hood troops in sex trafficking. Jesus Christ. What the [bleep] is happening? On social media, conspiracy theories blossomed. An anonymous and we entered it. We enter the scene. Enter the conspiracy. An anonymous post on a conspiracy forum uh posed that the wild claimed that an underground human sex trafficking ring existed in Fort Hood as the hub. I mean, it seems like it.

There was many like multiple. It’s not just one. They found multiple. Yeah, it’s not that far away from the border and there’s a lot of No, I mean, you know, you’re talking four hours. Um, not even. I would say, but it seems like they were trafficking like military personnel, but three or four hours, but it seems like this is military personnel, family members. Yeah. But if there was this whole like trafficking ring going on, I’m just saying, you know, that the border’s there close by and I know there’s a lot of that going on. Yeah, true. That that’s true. Uh, under mounting pressure, the Army could no longer write off Fort Hood’s deadly year as a coincidence.

In late 2020, the Secretary of the Army ordered an independent review of Fort Hood’s command climate, whatever that means. That’s what they called it, command. Command climate. Just check out the command climate over there. The culture is broken. We need a culture workshop. The climate is July in Florida. Yeah, we’re really uncomfortable. Well, we’re going to hold hands and do some ziplining. We’re going to do some team building. Get the HR going. Right. Get the HR going. A panel of civilian [bleep] A panel of civilian experts descended on the base to conduct hundreds of interviews. This is this was their findings. They described it was a permissive environment for sexual assault and sexual harassment where leaders failed to take action and victims were then afraid to speak.

The thing that’s wild is like they needed in investigators to go there to figure this out. Yeah. Just I I mean I’m looking at the top down just from like a highle overview. I’m like this [bleep] is [bleep] up. Like you don’t I don’t need a I don’t need a on the ground investigator to [bleep] understand that there’s a problem here. Well, if they don’t send these people in, it’s like that’s that is the whole problem is it is from the top down. So then it never changes. You got to expose everyone. One trial lawyer uh who helped lead one of the reviews told Congress that Fort Hood’s problems were not the result of one commander or one administration.

Yeah. But years of benign neglect. In other words, the base’s leadership over many rotations turned a blind eye and it became like a it is what it is. This is Yeah, this is how it goes in Fort Hood. Yeah, I can I can see that. Like it’s the same thing with what we were talking about like with the with politics. It’s like why I can’t make I can’t make the military look bad because I am in the military. So like we got to make it, you know, we’ll punch it under this one time. Yeah. You know, keep kicking the can down the road, boys. The murder of Vanessa Guan forced the army to finally see what many junior soldiers already knew.

Fort Hood had a toxic leadership culture that prioritized the mission over the welfare of the people. The army moved swiftly to show it was taking action. In December of 2020, it relieved or suspended 14 of the leaders. I love I I just [bleep] hate how it’s like, oh, you relieved a duty. I mean, I know you facilitated multiple sex trafficking and murders, but you know what? You’re just you’re not working anymore. Where’s their tribunal court? Yeah. Where’s the tribun? Where the [bleep] Where’s the [bleep] tribunal? All of it. They should have just wiped it all clean. Oh, I mean what? Like a like a Scud missile just like [bleep] all leadership from any sort of No, I I want like prison time.

Not like That’s I’m saying they did wipe it. What they did was wipe it. They’re like, “Oh, you’re all relieved of duty.” But it’s not like, “Oh, you’re going to jail.” Slap on the hand. Yeah. Slap on the wrist. Yeah. Public hand say hand raised publicly army leaders acknowledged that Fort Hood had lost the trust of its soldiers and the American people. They vowed to earn it back and to change they said that [bleep] in the 60s too. They didn’t change [bleep] In 2021, Congress passed and President Biden signed into law something called the I am Vanessa Guen Act. a historic reform that removed the handling of sexual harassment and assault cases from the military chain of command really into uh like a different chain of command.

So outside of military outside of military that’s right for the first time sexual harassment was criminalized under the uniform code of military justice [bleep] time and there were independent special prosecutors. How was it not criminal act before in the military you can have sexual No, it was it was it’s just that like you were saying they have their own [bleep] like life system little system. [bleep] that, dude. [bleep] [bleep] So, at this point in time, now we’re at like 2022, 2023, it was thought that maybe this we’re turning a new leaf. Yeah, it seems like maybe things are on the Yes. Yet. Oh my god, it shut this [bleep] base down.

Shut this [bleep] base down. The ghosts of Fort Hood pass were not easily vanquished. In early 2023, another case jolted the community, reminding everyone that the underlying issues were not fixed. Private Anna uh Basal Druis, a 20-year-old combat engineer, was found dead on the base, reportedly by suicide, though the investigation was still ongoing. Anna’s grieving mother in California, immediately raised arms. Her daughter had confided that she was being sexually assaulted by many people. My daughter’s never joined the military. This is such [bleep] This is so [bleep] Officials stated there were no foul there was no foul play. Uh but given Fort Hood’s history, they’re lying.

Yeah. Yeah. It’s givingven their history, it’s uh probably full of [bleep] uh the largest Latino civil rights group in the country uh called for the FBI to take over the case fearing another cover up. The parallels to Vanessa that whole thing or chilling it was a sign that um anyways in a symbolic move the army of 2023 also stripped the name Fort Hood from the base and it was changed to what? Oh yeah, Fort Cavasos. Yeah, cuz that’s going to make it all better. I can’t believe this base is still active. Kavazos. C A V A Z O S. Cavazos. Cavazos. Cavazos. Yeah, cuz now it’s going to make it all better.

Just change the name. Rebrand. Yeah. It’s like we’re going to be the Washington Commanders. But meanwhile, the Indian people were like what the [bleep] Like bring it back. We wanted to be the Redskins, bro. Like, didn’t they didn’t they say they were going to bring it back? Yeah, they Well, the the the Indian community were like, “We like it.” But did they? No, not yet. No, but the Indian like why did you take it away? Like, we like took pride in this [bleep] Of course, it’s named after a general, Richard Kavasos. Kavasos. Kavasos. Uh, he’s like a Vietnam war hero and a Hispanic Forar general.

Oh, damn. What a badass. The new name was if he served in Fort Hood. I don’t answer that. Yeah, probably answer that. He would be part of the problem name after him. The [bleep] piece of [bleep] But the new name was meant to inspire pride and also inclusivity. Yeah. With uh Meanwhile, it’s like Meanwhile, they’re not actually solving the problem. Let’s just change the name. Slap a little [bleep] band-aid on it. But to many who served and suffered there, the base will always be Fort Hood. haunted by what happened on its watch. A new name cannot by itself exercise the pain of what happened. So here in 2025, the story continues.

Jesus fort never ends. What the [bleep] Because uh Fort Cavasos or Fortos Kavasos or Fort Hood remains one of the largest army posts in the world. Tens of thousands of soldiers training for wars that will come or not come while fighting to heal the wounds of the war within. The Guan family still visits, turning their personal tragedy into a public fight against military injustice. Thanks to them though, a new generation of soldiers may be spared because the voices and what has happened is loud. This episode is brought to you by Lifellock. When you visit the doctor, you probably hand over your insurance, your ID, and contact details.

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Like is it going to change? I mean we had mass shootings, we had suicides, we have and but sex trafficking like just like the entire like m on a microcosm scale of like the planet everything wrong with the planet is happening at this base. But also the questions are there like was it like is it going to happen again in the future, dude? It’s I mean or is it is it just the fact that you talking about statistics? Yes, it’s going to happen in the future. Or also, is it is it just the fact that you have 10,000 people all all in one spot and it’s like a you know what I mean?

And like [bleep] happens 10,000 people, but there’s other bases that are maybe not as big, but same situation, thousands of people all together and they’re also going through wars and and stuff like that. Mhm. So then that just means that basically what we just talked about like it’s a systemic thing, you know, it’s like from the top down they were allowing this and when you allow you know this negative [bleep] and then it turns into criminal behavior then everybody’s in on it at that point like how many times cuz you’re complicit. If you keep getting away with it then then it’s you just why are you going to stop?

Yeah. And then and then your homies are like, “Well, I want to do that, too.” Yeah. And then they’re in on it. And then everyone’s doing it. Yeah. And then the mil the brass is doing it. The brass is getting a kickback from it or whatever the [bleep] And it’s like, why would we ever stop this? We’re like, we’re going to [bleep] do better. You know, just don’t look. But we’re Don’t look. Just listen. We’re going to do better. Okay. Don’t look. Okay. We’re going to do better. Just trust me. I know it’s been going on for 70 years, but like don’t worry. We got this under control.

It actually has been going on for I know. That’s what I’m saying. It’s 70 [bleep] years. They’re like, “We’ll change the name. Let’s change the name. Easy peasy.” Kavasos. Yeah. Just Kavasos. No more crime. It’s It’s not a problem. It’s like [bleep] It’s such a [bleep] thing. It’s such a PR [bleep] thing. It’s like a marketing thing. It’s like a rebranding, you know? We’ll make it a Spanish guy name. We love it. What was it like anchimas? Oh my god. But I’m like, I bought it because of the bottle. It’s the reason I bought it. No, yours is great. Your example of like uh the football team.

Oh, yeah. Remember for like two years it was like so good. It was like Washington football. Yeah. It was it was like the the football team. The Washington football team and they became the commanders and then like they’re like what? No. It was just it’s just it’s a PR thing. It’s a PR stunt. Yeah. That’s all it is. So here are a couple questions to like wrap things up. is one is let’s talk about Vanessa. Do do they just are they just I don’t know do they do they look out for a military like your bros more so than if you and I did something I don’t think it’s like the military looking out for their own and they’re trying to like hide it.

cuz there’s a little bit about that because you don’t the military look bad and like you were saying there like it is the American people start to lose trust in the whole military. It’s kind of like you stain everything, you know? Yeah. So I I was just say it’s not like oh they’re not looking up for the women or like they’re they’re they’re like prioritizing the men. I think they’re just they’re prioritizing the military over anything. Yeah. They’re like so Yeah. The brand we can’t have the brand be tarnished. We can’t have the brand. Like it’s exactly like Cory was saying. It’s like if it all looks bad, the the public loses faith and then like you’re not getting like your massive [bleep] defense budgets.

Yeah. You’re not getting recruits. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Like what recruits when I want to go in there? Like, oh yeah, cool. I want to go into like a sex ring. I think I’ll pass. Yeah. But but can we try to find out like an explanation? 30. I think the number was 39 deaths in a single year. It’s It’s insane. Yeah. I mean, but but it’s not going to be a conspiracy that we we normally deal with where it’s like the CIA, you know, and like you know what I mean? But no, but but one thing I Let’s all go back to our definition of a conspiracy.

Yeah. It’s two or more people that are implicit in in trying to devise a crime. That’s right. So if if you know what I mean, like Well, see, I don’t think I don’t think Manny’s such a good drill. No, like I don’t think this is a systemic thing like in terms of the military at large cuz I know there’s a lot there’s a lot of good military people. Like I said, most of my family was in the military. They’re all [bleep] really great. I love them. They’re like very sane, very ethical people. I think it was just this base was like because like I said there’s a lot of other bases and you don’t hear at least you don’t [bleep] like this like holy [bleep] my mom like I said my mom was in the Coast Guard for what six seven years like there was never any never sh not nothing nothing but I think it’s just this base in particular whoever’s running it who like they it was like a whole it’s not like a like a who like a one person I think it was definitely Yeah I think it was the culture The culture the culture was we do whatever the [bleep] we want.

We get away with it. They’re going to give you a slap on the wrist. The brass isn’t going to [bleep] run. Yeah. This is our [bleep] space, bro. This is our base. This our [bleep] base. That’s what I think. And it was a cultural thing. I got you. Okay. But then so that to me would explain a little more of like the sex ring and this assault and and that. But the [bleep] homicides, man. Yeah. And the suicides too. What the [bleep] I guess the only thing I can explain about that is that there’s definitely been links and and and um information out there about like the people taking like you know the um mental kind of drugs psych drugs and that kind of [bleep] and that how that’s abusing it abusing it and how that’s being linked to you know shootings and [bleep] like that.

Well, no. Here’s the thing is like if you even if even if you watch a commercial and they’re telling you about these drugs to handle the depression, one of the side effects is suicidal ide suicidal ideology in the commercial. So, this isn’t me making it up. This is the commercial. The [bleep] psychiatrist himself was taking the psychiatrist 23 people. Yeah. You killed 23 [bleep] dudes. Yeah. So, that’s what I’m saying that I think that’s a great point. that plus all the [bleep] that they go through when they go to war or they go to Iraq and all that and then you get deployed. Yeah. That probably and even that and like plus witnessing maybe like you’re like you have some girls you’re friends with and they’re being like sexually assaulted and like you’re told to shut the [bleep] up.

Yeah. Oh dude, it’s like the but okay. Playing a little devil’s advocate again. Okay, so that all happens but it happens on other bases too. It’s true. It’s very true. What’s going on with this one? 100% true. And and then it just goes back to permissiveness and the [bleep] you know, the top down. Everybody was in on it. Oh, for sure. And then I got to ask the curse, dude. Do you believe in curses? I don’t. I don’t. No, I don’t either. I mean, I do. I think that Do I believe in like spirits and like [bleep] [bleep] like that? Yes. Didn’t you have a ghost in here in your house?

Wasn’t that you? You said like you said something was like [bleep] with you or something. Tay thought Tay thought thought there was something going on and she [bleep] so it was haunted. had to handle it. Well, no. We had a ghost in my in my old house and um when I lived in Ohio when I lived in Ohio. Oh, okay. It our house was the first house built. It was built It was like 500 years old. It was the first house built on the street. And I remember my parents telling me the story and my dad was telling me this vivid like he was like my dad’s not like a [bleep] superstitious dude so like he wouldn’t like say this [bleep] if it was like [bleep] to him.

Yeah. He was he was like it [bleep] it [bleep] him up because he so they they it was a three-story house old as [bleep] And he was in bed and my mom would always like get out of [bleep] bed and like you know go to the bathroom or go downstairs get some food or some [bleep] Mhm. So he said he was sitting in bed and he was just like wide awake, [bleep] wide awake. And then my mom was gone and he it’s like pitch black in the room, but he’s just sitting there and he feels like my mom get in the bed, you know? Like you can feel like the bed move.

You can feel someone getting in the bed and he said he rolls over. He like rolls over like, “Hey, baby.” And there’s just there just nobody there. She there’s nothing and he like freaked the [bleep] out. That was Dude, he freaked the [bleep] out and like just literally freaked out and [bleep] ran downstairs and my mom was in the kitchen downstairs and he’s like, “Dude, what the fuck?” And she’s like, “What?” And then they would have these weird crazy dreams. Like my mom and my dad would have these like weird very but very similar dreams with like a woman. They would have the like this this woman dream.

And then it was also weird cuz I used to sleepwalk in that house. I would sleepwalk in that house. I don’t know if it had anything to do with that, but I haven’t I haven’t slipwalked since living in that house. The only the only time I ever slipwalk in my life was in that house. So, I think there was something like I believe that you know spirits spirits can be held in place and like want I don’t think it’s necessary like they want to cause like harm or anything but you know possible. It’s true. I but I feel like spirits I feel like you know spirits are are a real thing and and you know if you have a traumatic type of thing they could want to like they could be stuck in place they could be trapped there and then they could be [bleep] with [bleep] Do I think that’s what’s happening at Fort Hood?

No. I think it was a bunch of criminal [bleep] like trying to cause [bleep] Yeah. But like maybe some of it maybe. So it’s not the burial grounds. No. I think maybe may maybe a couple maybe a couple maybe a couple of the guys who like went off and like got lost. Maybe the the [bleep] they were like, “Hey, [bleep] you. Go get lost in the desert, bitch.” But like as a whole, no, I don’t think so. Okay, that’s just me. No, I agree. I don’t think it was like haunted or or what’s the word you use? Uh cursed. Cursed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What do you think, Eric?

What the [bleep] your What’s your thoughts? Yeah. Uh, no. I I I uh I I think it’s uh gross negligence of like many people. Yeah. I think it’s more than that, dude. I think it’s complicity. Like they’re they’re actually like knowingly allowing it to happen. Whereas negligence is happens without your knowing or like you know because if you don’t have things in place that that’s negligent. I think they were involved. Mhm. Like Jorge was saying, like top down, a real They were involved. Conspiracy. Yeah. It’s a conspir It’s a [bleep] conspiracy. They had a moment where they could have done the right thing and they didn’t.

No. 100% now. Yeah. Back in the 60s. Oh, for sure. You mean 70s 80s? Which one? Wait, the whole time. They could have [bleep] did the right thing forever. That’s the weird part is that it keeps going. Yeah. It’s like a I thought it was going to end at the 2007 and it’s like 2020. I’m like, what the [bleep] That’s the weird part about generational [bleep] I don’t know. Well, that’s when you get to the definition of systemic. It’s it’s become it’s a it’s the system that’s a system is run that way and it becomes a natural that that it’s a societal norm that this is how things are at Fort Hood.

This is what we do until like you said there’s enough noise and then like okay like enough people enough of the community is like [bleep] that’s it that’s enough. [bleep] this raise. Yeah. Do you think they they did the right thing? Change the name and No, they changed the name. Oh my god. I don’t agree with change the name, but yeah, for sure. Clean house. And do you think they just shut it down? [bleep] Yes. Shut that [bleep] down. No, it’s too big. It’s too Dude, that [bleep] feeds so much of of Yeah. 10,000 military families and Yeah. It’s called relocation, brother. No, that’d be that would be bad.

Welcome to the third largest San Antonio in that area. Welcome to the third largest land mass on the planet and [bleep] move that [bleep] No, you don’t need to do that to airport. You need to fix the [bleep] problem. Not like just burn the place down and [bleep] start again. No, I see. Cuz then the problem would be in Dallas. Yeah. Or like where I do think changing the name was is almost a slap in the face. Yeah. To the We’ll change the name and that’s going to change the culture. Yeah. To the families. Yeah. Oh, dude. It’s such a It’s such a shitty movie.

I could see I guess why they did it, but it was like a little woke like, you know, let’s let’s put in a a Hispanic name for you know, [bleep] taco or [bleep] Sorry, that was racist. I didn’t mean to say that. That was bad. Whoopsy daisy. Jorge is my best friend. Okay, [bleep] off. Like, he’s You’re allowed to. He gave me the [bleep] He gave me the whole thumbs up. All right, there you go, guys. Uh, that is Fort Hood. Um, you know, uh, my heart goes out to the, uh, family of Vanessa and all those and all the families, man. It’s not even just her.

It’s like all the people affected by this [bleep] [bleep] stain. Jesus. Uh, hopefully hopefully you guys just keep trying to get justice. I don’t know what else to say. And like make and like we were saying this like make talk about it. Yeah. Like the more keep it in uhh front of like you know what I Yeah, the more it gets talked about, it has to be talked about. Like that’s the way that we can exert power. Like I know you may seem like, oh, you can’t do anything about something. But if you see something that’s [bleep] up, whether it’s at your work, whether it’s in like just whatever on the street, you can [bleep] speak up.

And if you speak up, you can you can make a difference. Like you’re just because you’re one voice doesn’t mean you’re small or you’re worthless or you’re useless. Like that’s that’s [bleep] Like you can make a difference. And if we miss something, you guys let us know. Let us know. Yeah, there’s a lot of I mean, we tried to we tried to go through all the stories. I mean, like we just went over 30. Yeah. You know what I mean? There’s there’s a lot. Yeah, we there’s we could have definitely missed, but but if you don’t like, share, and get on Patreon, you’re part of the problem.

Yeah. You’re part of the systemic issue that we’re talking about here. But again, at the end of this, thank you, Jake. I appreciate you, brother. You were there and you keep supporting our show and and we really appreciate you, man. So, uh, keep on keeping on and, uh, we’ll catch you next time on the Conspiracy Podcast. Night. [bleep]