COVD-19 Part Two: LOCKDOWN – EP 121
COVID-19 Part Two: LOCKDOWN
Picking up where part one left off, the guys walk through the WHO’s March 11, 2020 pandemic declaration and the weeks that followed: border closures, stay-at-home orders, schools moving online, and the improvised PPE shortages that hit essential workers hardest. They talk through the toll on nurses, doctors, and first responders, and the economic fallout, including a roughly 10 percent US GDP contraction in Q2 2020 and a wave of layoffs.
A big chunk of the episode is spent on how COVID deaths were counted. The hosts cite the CARES Act’s hospital payment structure, flat payments they say totaled around 13,000 dollars per COVID patient and 39,000 dollars for ventilator use, and question whether that incentive structure affected how deaths and cases got coded, while acknowledging they are not medical or accounting experts and that hospitals had real added costs from the surge. This is presented as the hosts’ speculation and skepticism about official numbers, not a proven claim.
They also compare country-level responses (Sweden’s no-lockdown approach, New Zealand and Australia’s strict lockdowns, and reporting out of India and Vietnam) and debate, without reaching a firm conclusion, whether the scale of lockdown measures was proportionate to the actual death toll. The episode closes by setting up part three, previewing the vaccine rollout: Operation Warp Speed, the difference between traditional and mRNA vaccine platforms, and the compressed testing timeline, all of which the hosts frame as things to unpack further next episode.
- The WHO officially declared COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11, 2020, when confirmed cases had topped 100,000 across more than 100 countries
- An estimated half of humanity, about 4 billion people, was under some form of lockdown by April 2020
- US GDP shrank roughly 10 percent in the second quarter of 2020, which the hosts describe as the sharpest downturn since the Great Depression
- The hosts discuss the CARES Act’s Medicare and Medicaid hospital payment structure, which they describe as flat payments of about 13,000 dollars per COVID patient and 39,000 dollars for ventilator use, and question, without proof, whether this influenced how cases and deaths were classified
- Sweden did not implement a lockdown while most other nations did, and the hosts note its outcomes are still debated and studied
- Operation Warp Speed, launched under the Trump administration, compressed vaccine development that historically took years down to roughly six months, and multiple platforms including Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Russia’s Sputnik V, and China’s Sinovac and Sinopharm were developed in parallel
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Hey guys, welcome back to the show, The Conspiracy. Another week, another episode, another Tuesday, another dollar. How you guys doing? Make a hala. Yeah. I mean, it is the heat of August. Oh, it is the peak. I mean, we’re melting to death out here. It’s just outrageous. Better get some Patreons out of you guys for sitting out here. Literally, you owe me. You’re racist if you don’t join the Patreon. Racist. Um, this is part two of COVID 19. Yeah, we’re gonna get into good [bleep] Yeah. If you did not listen to part one, stop what you’re doing. Uh, do yourself a favor. Listen to a couple ads and then go back.
Join the Patreon. Take the ads. Yeah, we don’t get more money for clickthrough rate. I know we don’t. Don’t click that. There’s no commission here. But go back, listen to part one. It was the history of pandemics as well leading up to COVID 19. Uh, I thought it was important. We went over the playbook pandemics. Oh yeah, the black death. Well, it is important. It’s like you have to like if you don’t take in account what has happened prior like it’s it doesn’t give you a a realistic view of what’s happening right now. Yeah, that’s right. And the fear that is involved and what they went through back in the day.
Oh man. And actually leading up to the full on full scale who playbook. Oh, the h the who playbook. It’s it’s it’s wild and it’s also what’s going on in East Asia. like why why is it all in Asia? I don’t understand. Yeah. Well, we’re going to kick things off. So, uh we left off on March 11th, 2020. The World Health Organization officially characterized COVID 19 as a worldwide pandemic. So, they officially said bada b like this is it. Bada bing. They did not say that. I probably I probably did say bada bang. Yeah. uh meaning sustained transmission on multiple continents. By then, confirmed cases had topped a 100,000 and deaths were now tallied at 4,000.
It now spanned over a 100 countries. The world braced itself for a scenario not seen in generations. Overnight, almost everyday life across the globe transformed. Oh yeah. Do you guys remember March 11th or give or take like that the first or second week of March? Yes. Going back to that like this was when we were in Philly. I remember. Oh yeah. Really? Yes. Cuz I went to go I went when we got we got Jorge. Yeah. And I remember Jorge’s like do you want to go to Philly? I’m like why? He’s like I’ll pay for you tickets. I just need someone to drive with me.
I’m like okay sure. So, in short, the story is is that Jorge got a uh Tundra lease, but it was based out of Philly, so he had to pick it up in Philly. Yeah. So, so he bought my He bought my It was great. The The greatest deal I have ever seen. Yeah. Like I did the same thing and I still got a good deal. I still got a good deal, but it was not even remotely close to how good his deal was. Yeah. So, uh while you guys were on that trip, that’s when you That’s around that time. Yeah. It was started happening. And I remember that time cuz that’s when I got it.
And then right after I was like, “Man, I’m lucky.” Cuz if you remember, we got back and it was like [bleep] [bleep] was like hitting the face. And then if you remember the [bleep] the car market just exploded when this like right after the months after this, but like I was like, “Man, I we got I got lucky.” Yeah. Jorge’s [bleep] payment. I would have stayed on that lease for 100 years. Insane. Like God is the best. It was like zero down. Zero down. Like he was paying like 375 a month. No. 30 305. I know. 305 305. I was paying at the time for a 2020 2019 at the time.
It was a 2020 2020 Tundra. Tundra and it was so I at the time I had a Nissan Ultima. I was paying more for my Nissan Ultima than Jorge was paying for his brand new Tundra with no money down. Like it was wild. I could not [bleep] believe it. Yeah, that was a good trip. As COVID 19 spread globally in March, governments enacted extreme measures unprecedented in our lifetime. Countries imposed travel bans, entry restrictions. Even later on, we’ll talk about it. They we had uh those little almost like I really likened it to the you had the little vaccination book. Oh, like the scarlet litter.
Yeah. Like you had you had the little Yeah. Where are your papers? Yeah. Shitless. Where are your papers? Yeah. Yeah. On the paper. Yes. But was that at the beginning? No, that was in the I jumped in deep. That was deep in it. It’s crazy, too, cuz going through the stories like we lived it. Most of these stories we were not around. True. Exactly. Yeah. So, it’s just kind of a weird thing that we’ll keep going. But within days of the who’s pandemic declaration, the United States halted most travel from Europe. Many nations closed their borders entirely or mandated strict quarantines for entrance, i.e. that 10day ban or the 15 or 14 day quarantine.
You had to go to a hotel, [bleep] sit there. Domestically, quote unquote lockdowns or stayathome or orders became the primary tool to slow contagion. Mhm. Schools and universities shut their doors and moved to online school. Oh my god. Yeah. Which as a parent that was a real nightmare. Yeah. That was really tough. My children were they were eight and uh 10. Yeah. At that time and holy [bleep] was that difficult. They were the prime of their middle school. Yeah. Like it was Oh my god. That was just a hard No. You want to go hang with your friends? Nope. Did you Did you already work from home?
I did. I already did work from home. Yeah. Yeah. Luckily, I was also working from home at this time. So, during the pandemic, this is a little sidebar here. So, Eric and his wife would come over. Yeah. And it would be like at like a 100 p.m. on a Wednesday and we would just be drinking White Claw. Yeah. White Claw was the rage. Oh, yeah. We were just drink ripping White Claws. I don’t know why Whiteclaw came as the winner. I don’t know why. It’s like they were banking it, dude. They were crushing it. At the time I live at the time at the time we lived down the street from they literally lived like a bike ride away.
Yeah. Like a two-minute bike ride. Yeah. Actually, I biked that many a time. I know. I know. Remember the Philly thing? You [bleep] [bleep] Yeah. Your [bleep] bike pulls up. Yeah. It was fantastic. So, at that time, schools, universities shut their doors, moved to online, offices emptied out as tens of millions of workers switched to working from home. In city after city from New York to Paris to noon Delhi, normally bustling streets turned strangely quiet. Public gatherings were then banned. Restaurants and bars closed and it became the evolution or revolution of Uber Eats. Uh Door Dash, uh all this the takeout kind of thing became a new thing.
Um, theaters went dark, sports leagues paused their seasons, the world economy shuttered to a near halt, Bitcoin crashed, stock market crashed on the things. You remember like they remember I remember them having when they first started having like sports events again and they had like the the cardboard the card the cardboard cutouts like in the seats to make it look like there were people there. It was [bleep] insane, dude. So, uh, so ridiculous. one hilarious story and this is a little bit later like in this story but uh in Deneden Florida it’s where the Toronto Blue Jays yeah that’s where they have their spring training do their spring training but Canada blocked out everything like they they blacked it out fully so the only place they could play baseball was at the Denedan spring training but they had the cardboard cutouts like you’re talking about right so I went to a game and I think I have a photo somewhere But there was only enough seats for like 82 people.
Yeah. And the rest were cardboard cutouts. This is the weirdest game I’ve ever been to. This is the funniest thing in my in my head. Social distancing. Yes. Because if you’re 6 feet away, you can’t get this is so hilarious. Like I know it’s airborne, but still. Yeah. The logic behind it is like you’re 6 feet away. I also went to the Toronto Raptors were were here and they were using Yeah. They were using the the Homaly Arena. Yeah. Okay. Which is the lightning hockey arena, whatever. They turned it into their, you know, basketball. I went to one of two of their games actually. But yeah, it was weird, man, cuz it’s like, do they have cutouts?
Literally like a No, no cutouts. There was like 60 people. So, but they had the six feet separation. Well, if you were together, I think you could you just had to skip one seat, which is so dumb. Two and a half feet room. such weird like like little Yeah. Remember when they did like the the whole like quarantine with the NBA and they were like, “Oh, the bubble.” Yeah, the bubble. And it’s just like in Orlando. Like everything. It’s just so ridiculous. Yeah. Anyways, we’re we’re skipping ahead here. Yeah, we’re like definitely jumping back and forth. An estimated half of humanity was on some sort of lockdown by April.
4 billion people. These measures, often summarized as lockdowns, etc. were intended to, and I quote from Fouchy, flatten the curve. Oh yeah, we heard that for years. Years. Flatten the curve. To slow transmission so that hospitals would not be overwhelmed all at once. The phrase flatten the curve entered common parlay usually explained with a graph showing how social distancing could reduce the peak of infections. People were asked and in some places they were ordered by law to only leave their homes for essential things like groceries or medical care. Yep. Maskearing first discouraged by some authorities because of some say because of supplies but some say also because it doesn’t do anything exactly later became a recommended or mandated practice in public spaces especially as asymptomatic transmission was acknowledged.
So, what’s super weird about this is it became a thing where we would go to the grocery store and if your mouth was below the Do you remember this? If your mouth was below the thing, you were actually frowned at. No, they didn’t let me in. I remember cuz I [bleep] hated the mask. So, I always just used to wear it cuz you had to wear it, but I would wear it down. I remember I went to, you know, nature’s food patch here. We have it’s like a grocery store we have here. And uh they wouldn’t let me in. I was I was so [bleep] pissed.
I went left a bad review. Did you really? [bleep] you. Yeah. So it just became this weird thing of you couldn’t I don’t know. It also became a thing where you were shunned. Yeah. Because if you didn’t like masks, you didn’t wear the mask properly. You became Well, that’s that’s when the whole like this the the kind of the segregation. Yes. And like the the people who were deemed conspiracy theorists because you didn’t buy into the narrative, you became an you you were exiled. Yes. Like you were [bleep] treated like irresponsible now. But to be on the other side of it because you know somebody needs to but which of course is Eric obviously.
Those people were in fear of you spreading a disease to them. Yeah. No, but understand I I look especially the older people or that I could catch it and then I can spread it to my grandma and you know that kind of thought and I understand the fear but like the the fear is the copout. The fear the fear is the you know fear is the mind killer. Well, we we learned in the last episode that what can happen with fear. Well, yeah. I mean, they get all they get the incense going and then they get the you know what I mean? Yeah. And then you then you start, you know, you start killing your neighbors because, you know, you’re you’re scared.
Yeah. But fear is a justification. Fear is like, “Oh, well, I’m afraid so I’m allowed to I’m allowed to treat someone a different a different way. I’m allowed to shun someone. I’m allowed to publicly ridicule. I’m allowed to cancel them. I’m allowed to silence them. The government is allowed to stop you from communicating about your god-given right to thought.” Yeah. like you know but societies quickly adapted to the new norms. Companies big and small scrambled to implement Zoom or video conferencing. Uh those became the lifelines of business meetings, classes, family gatherings, uh even um schooling etc. in terms like social distancing and PPE were suddenly part of our normal.
I know. I have I have multiple friends who made [bleep] millions. Millions. And good for them. Good for them. They’re good guys. Like, yeah, they they provided a service that people wanted. So, yeah, I don’t [bleep] blame them. So, that was like hand sanitizers, masks, masks, gloves, gloves. Yeah. So, PPE is personal protective equipment. Yes. Anything that would fall into that category. Yeah. And PB is a term that’s used that was it it came from like okay if you’re in a particular let’s say you’re in a a chemical manufacturing plant like you have to wear certain PPE in order to pro you know to protect you from the materials that you’re dealing with.
Yeah. But there was such a shortage and this is when we and that’s what that’s what he’s talking about. Yeah. But this is this is when we started seeing people just improvising with their [bleep] mask. and you start seeing people show up with all kinds of weird ass [bleep] plastic like cut out a gallon of milk or some [bleep] or like with some underwear on your face and Exactly. True. It’s so true. So true. Um for those whose jobs required physical presence, healthcare staff, delivery drivers, grocery clerks, factory workers, the situation was a little bit more dire. They had to keep working and or risk exposure while the rest of the world was sheltered at home.
And those my wife Yeah. Exactly. And those were coined as essential workers. Yeah. Nurses, uh, EMS workers, firefighters, policemen. Yeah. And truth be told, I mean, they were pretty much the unsung heroes of the whole thing because they just kept on keing keeping on. Yeah. Yeah, they kept their job going or they kept those essential services going. Now, some would argue that the term essential services became loose and there were some people who were like, “Yeah, okay. Uh, Door Dash is essential.” Yeah. Like mom and pop can’t stay open, but Walmart can. Home Depot, you’re good. What’s essential cuz we got the paper. Yeah. For hospitals and clinics, the early phase was a nightmare.
Health care systems struggled to cope with the surge of CO 19 patients. Intensive care units filled up. Ventilators and oxygen supplies in some places ran short. Doctors and nurses face these situations especially in hard-hit cities like Madrid, New York City, etc. where some hospitals were so overcapacity that the patients were treated in the hallways andor tents outside. Yeah. I remember the whole tent thing. They would have like all these tents in like Chicago and New York and like they’d have all these like like rickshaw [bleep] type triage, you know, centers. Yeah. Um there were reports of hospitals having to ration the care, especially the ventilators deciding which patients got what.
Mhm. And that’s a [bleep] up decision to make. It’s really [bleep] up. You know what I mean? Especially if you’re the you didn’t really have anything to do with it. You’re just an essential worker. Yeah. You know, and then you go, “Well, you get it, but you don’t.” Yeah. Like, yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Lacking sufficient protective gear in many cases, an early feature of the pandemic was a global shortage of the N95 masks, gloves, and gowns. And that’s what we were kind of talking about. A lot of people made good on that. Oh, yeah. Uh many nurses and doctors resorted to reusing those masks andor improvising on different things.
They a lot of these essential workers work to exhaustion. Um oh they were working crazy hours. My my uncle’s wife um she’s a she’s a nurse and like she was working like 18 19 20 hours shifts like non-stop. Obviously Jorge’s wife is a she was also was she? Now question and this is this might be shallow but was she getting more money? No, that was the [bleep] up part. Really? It was not It was you the opposite. You’re getting threatened. You don’t show up then you’re going to lose your license cuz it’s I think they were saying like it would be considered abandonment of patient which you lose your license over.
Yeah. But you know, you’re trying to struggle with like treated just got treated like [bleep] Yeah. Do I lose everything or do I, you know, [bleep] just kind of put up with it? And well, see, and then the worst part also right after that, I think, is when it started, they started this whole like travel nurse program where like wherever they needed more help, you can go there. And those guys were getting paid like five times more than the regular nurse. Yeah. So that’s even more. I think what happened right like at during this period and like right after too is like a lot of the the people in this field were like [bleep] this.
Yeah. Like I’m not doing this anymore. I’m done. And then you had this massive [bleep] shortage. Cuz no one wanted to do it. They’re like why what the [bleep] would I already You’re being overrun. The hospitals are overrun. And then there’s some that are like [bleep] it. I don’t want to lose my life and they’re treating you like [bleep] They’re treating you like [bleep] trash. You’re exposed to it too like 100% every day. Yeah. So you’re like, am I going to get exposed? Bring this back to my kids. So it was it was hard. Yeah, that is that’s tough. The psychological toll on the workforce was immense.
They were hailed as heroes, but many suffered burnout and trauma from what they witnessed and some even died. Mhm. Yeah. By mid 2020, more than 100 countries had implemented full or partial lockdowns. The economic impact was swift and staggering. In the second quarter of 2020, the GDP of major economies plummeted. Oh yeah. The US economy shrank 10%. That’s insane. Europe similar. It was the sharpest downturn since the Great Depression in the early 1900s. I remember Bitcoin dropped down to 2,800. Really? 2,800? Dang. Oh my god. Why didn’t I buy Bitcoin? I know. Oh my god. Well, at the time we were like broke. I mean, I was worried about I mean, later on I got laid off.
So, like I was worried about the You know what I mean? Like, we were all worried about What was that thing they were giving out that money? What was it called? The uh the Yes. Oh, yeah. I got the STMI. Should have bought Bitcoin, too. Did you get the STI? You buy one bitcoin with the stimmy, baby. [bleep] get you gang. No, but I was going to get a [bleep] dude. I dude I during during the pandemic, I worked in the recruitment industry and it was [bleep] brutal. Who the [bleep] is hiring? No. Well, barely anybody’s hiring, but people were hiring. But then they No one can do interviews and you’re doing like virtual interviews and they’re afraid to hire people off virtual interview.
It was like you didn’t know if the world was going to end. Didn’t you recruit for like the industry where you you got to go to the office? I recruited for I recruited for manufacturing. So you got to be you had to be in the plant. You can’t manufacture. You can’t make [bleep] if you’re like you can’t make [bleep] from your house. Like you can’t [bleep] fix machines from your house. It was [bleep] brutal. Like I barely So you resorted to white claws, dude. Oh, dude. I scraped by like I my income from from 2019 to to 2020, my income dropped by like 70%. Damn.
It was like it was Cuz you’re pretty commission based. Oh, 100 was I was virtually 100% commission. Yeah. And I made [bleep] amazing money. And then it was like I made like [bleep] literally like scraping by. Like I made 25% of what I made the year before. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like Yeah. It was like White Claw Wednesdays was like my only guilty like that was that’s the only thing I could do. No. Do you remember the epidemic in Athens where the historian said they resorted? Yeah. Pleasure. Like [bleep] That’s what I did. That was what was it called? Self um self-indulgence. indulgence. I was indulging cuz there was like at that point like in my mindset it was like well well there’s really nothing to do.
It’s like they won’t they’re like hey we’re in a hiring freeze or like blah. And I’m like you know it was stupid of me. I should have tried to find another outlet and I like I kicked myself for not trying to find like another source of income or like something that I could have done. But at the time I was like [bleep] it. And I just like put all my [bleep] on [bleep] deferment because they were like, “Oh, pandemic defer.” And I was like, “YOLO.” Like the little money that I will make, it’s gonna go into my [bleep] liver. Stupid. Tens of millions of people lost jobs within weeks.
Uh I was one of those. Uh I got laid off in August. Yeah. About August. Oh, I remember that. I remember when that happened. Yeah. Yeah. Um, stock markets plunged like we talked about. The human side of the economic collapse was painfully visible in scenes like miles long lines at food banks in underdeveloped countries. In developing nations, countless migrant workers suddenly benefit of income and sometimes stranded due to travel bans, meaning they were like stuck in these other countries and they couldn’t leave. Yeah, you’re [bleep] you’re done. A strange [bleep] Bitcoin was 2,800. [bleep] Jesus, talk about a ROI in [bleep] 5 years. [bleep] Oh my god.
No. Anyway, sorry. Socially, the pandemic disrupted life rituals as well. So, this is weddings were postponed. Uh, graduations were postpon. Not for us, baby. Yeah. We were like, “Fuck the system. I can’t tell what to do in my own house, baby.” One of one of the crulest parts of CO that I saw uh was people who were sick who were dying not necessarily of COVID, but you couldn’t go visit your family. You couldn’t see your family. I mean, just so they died and they had no nobody with them. Just to just to give you guys perspective, like I my daughter was born in 2021. Yeah.
And this was still this was still on the tag end of uh of the of the co thing. We couldn’t there couldn’t have we couldn’t have anyone there. Yeah. We had this massive [bleep] room. Mine was born twin two. Still was like it was only just me and my wife. We had this massive room. They would only let me in and they let my my wife’s cousin in because we said that she was her doula. Okay. And a doula is a person. And that’s and dude they [bleep] they were so [bleep] crazy about it. It was terrible. Yeah. We couldn’t have my wife’s mom. We couldn’t have my mom.
like nobody [bleep] nobody allowed. It was it was [bleep] And like I I didn’t know what I was doing. Thank God for my wife’s cousin because I couldn’t have made it without her. I didn’t know what the [bleep] was going on and I, you know, was not prepared for what I saw, but that’s okay. That’s another story. I’m super happy. I love my daughter. She’s the best. She’s the greatest. Religious services were cancelled or moved online. Yes. I I totally forgot about that. People couldn’t go to church. Yeah. Yeah. which is another it’s a big thing. It’s a big thing. It was another part of the conspiracy which we can get into later.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Jorge is on the [bleep] ball here. I’m a strong believer in in church and so you know you take that away that hope or that place of u what’s like that place of solitude or or that that place of I’m just saying like any religion church it takes away your ability to go and be I don’t know. You know what I mean? like you go to church, there’s hope and it’s what we talked about the whole Athens thing. It’s like you you you believe a core set of like tenants that you live your life by. Yeah. And then if you no longer have that, you’re more susceptible to like the insanity of what’s happening right now.
So if you’re not like connected to the thing that you know is your moral code, like your moral compass, like religion is a moral code. That’s that’s literally what it is. That’s why I’ve said multiple times, I think religion is super important because it it gives you a moral code for your life. And so like regardless of what you believe in, I think it’s super important that you do believe in it because it helps you, you know, it’s the guideline. It’s like that’s the framework for how you live. Yeah. So this was just taken away, you know, like just taken away from people. So again, then it led to anxiety, loneliness, and a bit of a I mean, after the White Claws settled down, you know what I mean?
You get got into a depression phase of Oh, for sure. Oh, it’s not a two week party. Remember originally we thought it was going to be over two weeks. So, we were like, [bleep] the curve. Flatten the curve. Flatten the curve. Exactly. Anyways, uh despite these unprecedented containment efforts, CO 19 proved difficult to suppress completely. Uh after the initial global surge in 20 in early 2020, the infection rates dipped in many regions by late spring thanks to lockdowns. But as restrictions eased in the summer of 2020, we thought we were out of it. We thought we were going to go back to the normal. I remember I remember being like, “It’s done, baby.” Like we, you know, we got a couple weeks off.
Like no big deal. Like it wasn’t the thing. Then it came back in a second wave with And then the lockdowns were like harder. They were like, “Nope.” Yes, that’s right. Uh, India, just a point of note, India kept their numbers very low in comparison. I highly doubt India was reporting [bleep] So, I don’t know if it was No, the only reason I say that is because unfortunately like India has one of the largest populations on the planet, if not the largest. And 90% of the people are impoverished. 90. So it’s it’s not it’s not 90%. Okay. So I just want to I just want to read you here’s here’s the numbers and it’s it’s gonna sound insane to us but you know we don’t know we don’t know like what this gets you but extreme poverty in India is people that live on less than $2.15 a day.
So, in in 2022, um, wait, well, I don’t know the actual dates, like the dates are kind of skewed here, but it used to be 16%. That number of of people living on less than $2.15 a day. So, 62% was the what they call the lower middle income for India and that was living on less than $3.65 a day. This episode is sponsored by Friskies, who would like to tell your cats hi. Now, if that didn’t get your cat’s attention, there is one thing that always does the trick. Just pour some Fris crunchy food in the bowl and you’ll hear those paws come running. Works every time.
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Dude, it’s it’s it’s literally like it’s probably $100. No, 100 bucks for your rent. If you like I I know people that have gone to India and it’s like there’s just tents on the side of the road. Straight up tent. It’s free. But I mean, you’re not wrong. I mean, in the sense of like a majority of it is it’s in poverty. But yeah, but are you saying that they are we’re hiding numbers because they’re in poverty? No, I’m saying that they’re they’re pro there’s you’re talking about a billion and a half people. Like you think they have like some census bureau that’s going around to all the people living in like the [bleep] shanties.
Of course they’re not. They don’t give a [bleep] They don’t care about those people. Let’s be honest. Like let’s be really honest. They don’t care about those people. They don’t they don’t have the infrastructure to do a proper statistics. No, but they don’t want to. They don’t want to cuz it’s like it’s already [bleep] It’s like why make it or they don’t have the resources. They don’t have the they don’t want to. Some of the richest people in the in the world live in India. Yeah. And there’s So you think that statistic of them being low in CO numbers is is skewed. It’s skewed. You you can’t that’s it’s a lie.
It’s a lie. It’s it’s untrue. You can’t know. So then with that then it’s like okay out of the out of the billionaires in India the the [bleep] numbers are allowed like you can’t it’s not true it’s not a real number. I get it. Okay. Well by the end of 2020 here are the glo global numbers. Mhm. Yeah. Real quick per who? Real quick I just want to say like look at how difficult it was for us to get accurate numbers. Yes. And we have 300 at the time probably 340 million people. True. They have one and a half billion. Yeah. And less money. You’re in the lower middle class if you’re making less infrastructure, less technology.
If you’re in the lower middle class, if you’re making 3 [bleep] 50 a day, I mean, come on, bro. Like, let’s be honest here. Like, 350 a day. God, did you get any stimmies? What? You get 20 cents? Yeah. Like, question actually. Did India get stmmies? I mean, the stimmies were probably like buy That’s a Federal Reserve [bleep] US [bleep] thing. Don’t worry, we’ll know. Okay. So, here here are the official numbers by the end of 2020. Okay. From who? Who? From who? No. Yeah. From the who? Who? The who? Who? Not from who. Yeah. No. No. From From who? From who? Like that baseball skit.
It’s from who? Who’s on first? Who? Who? Who? God damn it. Shut up. What’s his name? Okay. I actually hate that skit. I love it, but I hate it because it’s so frustrating. Yeah. Um 80 million confirmed COVID cases by the end of 2020. 80 million. What what I would love to know like confirmed global. Okay. Anyways, go 1.8 million deaths. That’s a lot in death. And keep in mind this is reported deaths. But it’s also like the death thing is so skewed. It’s like if cuz the way that they were doing numbers is that if regardless of what your pre your your pre-existing conditions are, if you also had if you also tested positive for COVID, COVID was deemed the death.
CO was deemed the was deemed the cause of death. So So even if you died from Yeah. Like you have you have a heart attack. Exactly. Have a stroke but you have CO is the is the cause of death. So it’s very skewed. So, it’s very hard to know what was Yeah, cuz it’s almost impossible to know. And at that point, they should they should just call it like undetermined because you don’t know what actually killed that person, but they were they were literally claiming CO. So, I don’t know. I don’t know how accurate these numbers are. That’s all I’m saying. Yeah. Yeah. No, no.
And it makes sense. It makes sense. Um and but and again, I’m I’m I’m reading the official version from who? Yes, of course. Of course. I just wanted to preface that with that. We’re not we’re not sure. Yeah. Uh to give you in context, COVID 19 in 2020 alone killed more Americans than died in combat in World War II. It became the third leading cause of death in the US that year after heart disease and cancer. By early 2021, the official global death toll crossed 2 million. As of January 2023, 7 million reported deaths from CO And that was just that’s globally. Globally. Okay. Yeah.
Okay. The true number of pandemic related deaths including those that are unrecorded and or uh like as a result or without tested etc should be higher. I mean but real but realistically realistically it’s it’s impossible to know. I know. And that is why this is the official number given by who and it’s a [bleep] wide range. Yes. It’s so wide that you’re almost like this can’t even is this even a real statistic? But I I want I want to point something out just on this note because if you look at it and this is this is on the CDC website cuz I did it I looked it up myself and I forget the exact dates and the these aren’t exact numbers but if you look uh so the CDC reported that it was something like it was a couple million people uh died of the flu in like I think it was in it was in like 2018 or 2019.
It was a couple million people. You know, when like it’s like winter and we always we get a flu. And there was and there was a couple a couple million like it wasn’t like a low number. It was a couple million people died of the flu. Yeah. And then when when COVID 19 hit the the the death by flu numbers went to I think it was literally I kid you not like 1,700 by flu. By flu. Death by flu went from literally a couple million to the next year. 17 cuz everything’s CO 19. So, okay. So, check this out because I I remember that hospitals there was a thing conspiracy going around that they were getting paid, you know, per co per co declaration.
Now, was that a conspiracy or dude what I found? Well, I mean, what is the conspiracy? Really? It’s a conspiracy. It’s a conspiracy. No, I know. But I mean, I thought that was a fact. Like, not even a theory. Like, I don’t know. You ready? You ready? You want to hear? No. Don’t talk. Hold on. is trying to become a real person again. Okay, so here’s the thing. They did not get paid per death of COVID 19, but but there was something that was uh rolled out for Medicare and Medicaid payments and then the numbers so they received flat payments 13,000 per COVID patient 39,000 for ventilator use but not specifically for death.
So there was so they were so basic treatment of co Yeah. There’s however many people this is a fact. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is in the car’s act. This is a fact. The car’s act. This is in the car’s act. Yeah. So this is like this is the congress approved. Right. So if you get you come in you get treated for COVID then Medicare or Medicaid I guess the hospital 13 years. Exactly. And then if they put get put on a ventilator they’re getting paid 39,000 for that service. Gotcha. I wonder how and that’s just Medicare Medicaid. I don’t know what the [bleep] insuranceances were getting for I wonder how the accountant of cuz I’m assuming a hospital has an accountant of course right where they bill they bill the government right there’s got to be a report though there’s got to be a report go back to paperwork that’s saying somebody’s got to write down this month we had this many we had this many patient yeah so my my mom the coding system in the medical no so my mom has been in it’s like health information it’s called h my mom has been my mom has HIM which is health information management for her whole career almost 30 years.
Okay. So health information management is the entire system of how uh hospitals record information. So my mom specifically for most of her career has been in what’s called cancer coding. Okay. So, and with cancer coding, like every cancer patient in the United States in most of the world, uh they there’s specific codes for the type of cancer they have, how like you know the type of cancer, where it’s affecting them, how far along it is, what the treatments were, what the results were for the treatments, because there’s a there’s a giant cancer database of like compiling the information. Same thing with OHM. There’s a specific code if you break your arm and what the treatments are.
There’s codes for that. There’s codes for everything. So like there is a code I see like within that system I don’t know what it is but there’s a code to to to delineate this person has this this is what the treatment was and this is what the result was because it’s all in their information. It’s all documents and this is meant to basically offset their losses because they were getting overrun and having to pay nurses over time and doctors and all this sort of stuff or having to pay for ventilators when they didn’t they weren’t planning for that expense, you know, all that sort of stuff.
So that but is that the justifier? That’s the thing. I mean, no, it’s like everyone’s got everyone’s got Yeah. No. Meaning meaning some some person some like managing director of the hospital was like had to go to the accountant was like, “Ooh.” Right. Like this is No, you don’t have You don’t go You don’t go to the accountant. You go It’s It’s from the It’s You go to the nurse. Do they have CO? Yep. Yep. It’s a And the accountant just looks at the reports. The managing director goes to the head of medicine. The head of medicine then goes down to the the doctors and then the doctors go down to the nurses.
Yes. You know what I mean? Like how does it work? Like how does it Yeah. I don’t think remember this. There was a lot of false positives and there was remember that whole thing that were going on. Yes. So they were getting tested and two said everybody’s got CO. Wait a minute. Like and then it came out that there was a lot of false positives and they were also mean they already build. Well, no. They were also doing like they you know before like it was they were doing like the antigen test. Yeah. So the antigen test doesn’t mean that you have CO. It means that you could have had CO and you have the antigens now but doesn’t mean you have it now.
So they’re like you see the antigen they got CO but like you could have had it before. You don’t have it now but you’re being treated for something. Yes. So but it but I’m telling but like I’m tell I don’t like the money connection. I know dude. There’s so much money. 13 grand a patient a pop just for treating them. So you came in, you came into the ER, you’re not feeling good. Oh, let’s do a COVID test on you. Boom. Comes back. Pop. 13 wrecks, dude. And then and then what do they do? There’s nothing you can do. Go home and quarantine. We don’t have any ventilators.
What was the treatment? Nothing. There was nothing. I remember at first it was just quarantine. It was like cold rags. Yeah. There were like [bleep] Tylenol and time. Why cloth? It’s like white claws. Yeah. All right. Wednesday night. Every Wednesday you’re going to Your prescription is white claw Wednesday. Literally call your homies. Come over the White Claw Wednesday. All the doctors. You [bleep] call me White Claw. I know. Look, you [bleep] call me for White Claw Wednesday. I’ll let it be known to everybody. No, because your wife was a nurse, bro. I couldn’t call you. It wasn’t like I don’t want to hear the Oh, don’t [bleep] don’t hear it.
Don’t you dare. Don’t you dare. I was be I was protecting you from the co. I didn’t want to spread it to you. Listen. All right. What were you doing during that time? Uh, yeah. What were you doing? Why were you hitting me up? You were white with other people. I know. Why wasn’t I hitting you up for white? I know. Like, can we like zoom call white barbecuing in the back? Whenever I get somebody who’s like, “Man, why didn’t you call me, man?” I’m always like, “When do you [bleep] call?” It’s like you flip it. Flip it. You just flip it. What do you mean?
I didn’t get a text flip the screen. No, but I just want to know like it’s an actual fact. Literally, it was on the CDC’s website, probably still is. Like, how is it [bleep] remotely possible that millions of people died from the flu the year before, but then 1700 people died from the flu? It must mean there’s overlap. It’s impossible. Coding it differently. It’s impossible cuz they were paid out. Cause of death. Yeah. Cuz they’re getting paid paid out. Yeah. Yeah. It’s impossible. That’s [bleep] statistically impossible. But going back to our with a pandemic, it’s statistically impossible. But going back to the conversation we had about your wife not getting paid more.
Does it justify it? No. This or what? Well, meaning like like they’re getting the hospital’s getting paid more. Oh, the hospital but not the nurse. Their nurses aren’t getting that kickback. It’s the hospital’s getting paid. Meaning I was just wondering if it was justified of like we need more money cuz we’re taking care of everybody on the plan. They’re not taking care of. They don’t get theos. It’s the hospital. It’s not If it’d be different if like every nurse gets like, you know, 600 bucks everybody got for real. He’s got double. He’s got two strains. Two strains. You know about the Miami strain? The Miami Stra.
Coat it. Coat it. No, that’s funny. All right, I get it. It’s interesting. Yeah. Where the [bleep] are we on this? like we like 20-minute dagger. Uh just a just a point of note, uh New Zealand was known as the one that handled it the best. U and we don’t totally know and all the dudes all the dudes are like all the dudes are massive. I read about this earlier and I was like that’s cuz they’re on a [bleep] island out there nowhere. It’s literally it’s like their entire country is quarantined out there, right? Uh I think my parents went to New Zealand like a year ago.
It was like an 18-hour flight. Like, it’s not a jaunt. An 18 hour flight, but it’s also like you can drive across the entire country in like 3 hours. Yeah. Now, I love it. I wish I would go. I’m super jealous, but I’m just saying I don’t know if they did something better. Airborne doesn’t really travel that far. Yeah. So, uh they did pursue they had something called a COVID zero strategy and it was just extreme lockdown. M. So I don’t know if that again and after all of this I still don’t know if that worked. Australia also had like a very extreme lockdown. So they probably just Dude, Australia was took that on.
Australia was the worst though as far as lockdowns or dude. So my no they were the worst in terms of like government [bleep] psychosis. So one of my friends this was in 20 this is like 2023 I think. So yeah super late on the chain dude. Like way like co’s like done. It’s like over. Like the [bleep] shit’s over. Yeah. Yeah. So, one of my wife’s really good friends that she went to school with and like she’s super wellto-do, like very well off, she was literally in a park alone with her kids and literally the cops [bleep] threatened to arrest her because she wasn’t because she was outside and wasn’t wearing a mask and she’s like, I’m alone in the park with my kids alone.
There’s no other human. There’s more of a chance of me getting CO now that you’re walking up to me. And they were lit. They literally threatened to arrest her. I’m going to arrest you. I’m going to arrest you with your [bleep] small children because you’re alone in a park. Yeah. [bleep] They [bleep] Didn’t they have [bleep] drones and [bleep] surveilling? Dude, they are crazy. Catching people that were like going somewhere that was not essential. This is also what happens too with Australia. It’s like look, you know, Eric may disagree with me, but like it is highly illegal for citizens to have guns in Australia. Yep.
Highly legal. Yeah. It’s like very No. No. Yeah. Because guess what? Government can do whatever the [bleep] they want. You’re gonna You’re gonna stop me. Yeah. What are you going to [bleep] throw rocks at me, [bleep] Like, they don’t give a [bleep] Uh, strangely enough, Vietnam had one of the lowest amount of deaths in the entire year of 2020. They drink. We don’t know. It’s all that jinseng, babe. Yeah. We don’t know actually why the lady boys. So, maybe they just didn’t. I’m sorry. Weirdly though, right? Isn’t that strange? Like I don’t I don’t know. Nobody really knows why. It’s all the prostitution. Their immune systems are like [bleep] self-indulging from the start.
Self-indulgent. This is pure self-indulgent. That’s the cure. Yes. So, uh, as we move forward a little bit, um, there was a second or another wave of it when it got real gnarly and that was at the end of 2020 and this is when India was hit. Also, for some reason, they didn’t when those stats got real. Also, wasn’t that our elections? Yes. End of 2020. That’s right. Weird how the numbers get worse. Oh my god, everything’s [bleep] I’ll save you. Administration does a bad job. Vote for me. I’ll save you. So, uh, the ones that were hit pretty much the hardest based on percentages is the US, Brazil, and India.
Okay. Um, the US recorded more than 600,000 deaths by mid 2021. Uh, and it surpassed 1.1 million by 2023. Brazil supposedly had a lax approach to COVID restrictions and they saw a massive amount of deaths for their population which is 600,000. I just want to say something and this is this might be this is a hot take and this is a bad take and people might hate me for this take. Yeah. But if you look at the numbers statistically does like okay how do I say this like in a non dicky way? Okay. Does it did all that warrant what happened? Like obviously every death is terrible.
Yeah. Anyone who died I like that [bleep] that is absolutely terrible. But for what was done to the people and like the amount of like force and the amount of of suppression that was done by all the governments of the world for if you think about it was it worth it? It wasn’t worth it for because if you look like okay how many people died total in co okay maybe maybe like okay let’s just say 5 million let’s say that’s the number five million which I think is actually high but like in comparison to these other ones 100 like 20% of like the global population the argument though is is that if we didn’t do that would it be another black death would have been another black death but here’s the thing here’s the thing or another Spanish flu no but that’s that it’s not True.
Because everyone got it. It’s not they didn’t get it until months later. They didn’t know that. But the death mortality rate wasn’t high. No, but I’m saying the mortality rate wasn’t high. But I mean, dude, [bleep] true. Everybody got CO. Like, let’s be honest. Every [bleep] human being on the planet got CO. Like whether you were affected by it or not, you got it. Everyone did. I mean, except for me. But yeah, Eric, I guarantee you got it. You just weren’t affected by it. But like the real being a dick like being being actually realistic. I guarantee 99.9% of the population of the planet got co everyone did.
And also we’re what about the effect and what is kind of what he’s talking about which is also the effect of the economy jobs. the economy. Do you know the association between your look at the amount of cases? There’s there’s statistics of the amount of cases of suicides, depression, all these things. We can’t even measure it, but like the cases are insane. I don’t know what you’re saying. So, it’s like, oh, cool. Let’s shut down the entire planet over .001% of the population. I It’s a super hard question to answer. That’s why I said I don’t want to be a dick. I don’t want to be a dick.
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That’s the problem. See the problem is like why are they we’re going to do what’s best for you. You know what I you know the only person who knows what’s best for me is me. I know what’s best for me. Not some rando I’ve never met who I’ve never seen in person. I know what’s best for you. Trust me. I’m going to destroy your small business. But you voted them in. See, that’s the problem with We voted them in for this. Do you see there’s there’s a there’s a really great there’s a really great video. Yeah. And it’s it’s I’m going to find it. I think I might have sent it to you guys in the group in the group chat.
And a guy talks about like, you know, people think people are under this like false impression that America is a democracy. It’s not a democracy. Yeah. We’re a constitutional republic and a democracy is a very very like if you if you do it from a from a baseline perspective it’s actually not great because the reason that a democracy is not great is because six like 51% of the population controls the other 49%. That’s why a democracy is not good because majority rule. So a majority rule is like okay cool. If 51% of the people think something’s cool but the other 49% don’t think it’s cool.
Sorry, we’re doing the thing that you don’t think is cool. In a constitutional republic, yes, you have some of the framework of democracy where you do vote people in, but you still have inherent rights that can’t be taken away from you. You have the ability to do that’s what we would that’s what we strive to be is the republic. No, but we’re not now. We’ve been changed. Dude, we have converted ourselves by by these elite [bleep] We’ve converted it to a democracy to an actual democracy. It’s an actual democracy now. It’s no longer like they don’t want you to think about the Constitution. I can jump on that.
They don’t want you to think about your inaliable rights that the government can’t touch. They can’t touch your right to speak your thoughts. They cannot [bleep] stop you from doing it. But now they’re like, “We can because you know co now what was crazy to me is that during co it was the biggest uh infringement upon being able to communicate what you want to communicate.” Exactly. I have never seen that in my lifetime. Wild of what we couldn’t say. We even talked about it at the beginning of the last episode where we couldn’t even say the word co Yeah, in our instantly flagged instantly flagged there is it’s not even a [bleep] conspiracy anymore.
There’s [bleep] fact checked. Zuckerberg came out and confirmed that he was getting pressured to suppress this and limit the free speech. Yeah, the algo was literally stopping people. And the thing is like like look sure if you have some type of view of someone like me like a rando okay like sure you’re allowed to like have that viewpoint. But like if a doctor, a [bleep] medical doctor is being like, “Hey, like this is [bleep] up. Like something’s wrong here.” And they’re like, “No, false information. This [bleep] went to school for 16 years, like you’re going to say he’s a [bleep] asshole.” And like you’re like, “Get the [bleep] out of here, dude.
Only Fouchi knows.” I know, right? Only he’s the only doctor we can trust. I know. I know, right? Uh and then just one other highlight of of we were talking about um the countries that did it right based on statistics. Sure. Uh the one that that people still don’t understand what happened and is still being studied today is Sweden. Sweden killed the game. Yeah. Sweden’s like zero co and everyone’s beautiful. They they they drew attention because they did not lock down. Oh yeah. And they were like totally fine. And they were actually semifine. I mean they had cases but it wasn’t as extreme as a lot of the other and they they didn’t lock down and like the people just got hotter.
Yeah. It’s like just like it just like the graph just went up. Strangely enough. And in the research people are still researching what they did because we don’t know what they did. They just so there was not even like a lockdown as far as the the flights and super basic lockdowns lied. No, but did they let other people in to their country? Yeah, they did. They’re like [bleep] it yellow. Cuz one thing could be like, okay, they contained it. They didn’t put all these restrictions on on their society, but yeah, you know, so it contained in that way. But but okay, they actually did let other people in.
One of the things that they didn’t do that other people did is lockdowns. They didn’t do a lockdown. They didn’t do what is it? Stay in place or or or like shelter in place. Shelter in place. Yeah. So, they didn’t do that. And anyways, I I don’t have the answer. I’m just telling you like that just makes Sean’s pointy. Was it worth it? when especially when you have this example I know of maybe it could have been a different way. Yeah. Yeah. It’s like I’m sorry but like that it’s it just doesn’t work. It just doesn’t it’s not workable. It’s not a workable solution. Like I understand the concept behind it.
Like I’m not I’m not insane. Like I obviously I obviously get the purpose the reasoning why. I get it. And like look, I’m not I’m not going to be like, you know, look, I I I get it, but it didn’t I think it caused more harm than it did help. Yeah. I think it caused far more harm. I get it. I get it. It’s a It’s a great question. I I you know what I mean? It’s a great great question. Yeah. And uh I don’t know each to our own on it. Maybe we’ll answer that at the end of the episode. I mean, because at the same time, remember like you couldn’t you didn’t have symptoms until two weeks later or whatever the [bleep] it was.
So you could be going to the office and then just infecting everybody and you don’t know and now instead of one it’s 100 and then those hundred go and see another 300 people. But but here’s the thing is like the people that were dying were the people that already like like lit statistically like 90% 90% of the people that were dying were had pre-existing conditions. Obviously like we know in America the number one killer is is heart disease. Yeah. It’s like, so yeah, like I’m sorry if you give a person who’s already struggling to like [bleep] keep their heart alive, the flu, it’s not good.
It’s not good for them. But then it’s made to be like like you’re like like the average the average, you know, healthy human being had a very low death rate. Yeah. Very low death rate. Yeah. So it’s like we’re gonna [bleep] everybody. remember at the beginning also, okay, there was a low death rate, but if you got it bad and you needed a ventilator and all this, then you’re overrunning the hospitals and that’s another thing that they were trying to flatten that trying to mitigate. Yeah, like I said, I understand like the the overall concept, but I I think it’s like they end it [bleep] so much more.
Yeah. Yeah, I get that. I get that. Well, as we moved into 2021 now, this is where I started to kind of be suspect. Mhm. Like now granted I was upset and I didn’t like how it was going but this is when I really kind of turned suspect it’s a year. It’s a year a year and then what came out was the variants. Oh my god. Do you remember [bleep] like [bleep] We got a new one now. And they started throwing out [bleep] and I’m not a doctor. So they started throwing out the spike in the proteins into the different variants and then the by this time they they already had the vaccines because the whole protein spike and pro or whatever the [bleep] it was called.
Well, spike proteins are a real thing. Like people who people who were like spike proteins are [bleep] like look it up, Google it. Spike protein is a very real very medical thing. It’s a real thing. It’s very real. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so that’s when I now I kind of jumped forward a little bit, but I just wanted to tell you because I’m going to lead into vaccines, okay, that lead into this and and how I just started to getting getting suspect. I was like, we’re definitely doing three episodes. Yeah, we’re definitely we’re definitely doing three literally like we’re like we still have 30 pages left and Yeah.
And I was like, we can’t not do the the vaccines. No, I mean not the whole Yeah. So even as the world was locking down in spring of 2022, researchers were already working on vaccines for CO 19. Of course they were. Given the urgency, what normally takes 5 to 10 years Mhm. was compressed into six months. [bleep] scam. The backbone of this achievement was decades of prior scientific groundwork that suddenly came to fruition. Laboratories in January of 2020 armed with the published SARS cove- two genetic sequence identified the spike protein as the key target. The spike is what the virus uses to enter human cells.
A variety of vaccine platforms were then developed in parallel. Some teams using mRNA technology which was never licensed as a vac in a vaccine but it was studied. It’s also like we shouldn’t really call it like an achievement. Like it’s kind of it’s a broad achievement. I don’t know. Others pursued traditional approaches like inactivated virus or protein subunits. Well, that’s like the original that’s that’s the the old school. So, you just basically had research teams working Yeah. on stuff and trying to do it. Yeah. So, what he’s saying is like in layman’s terms is like there’s there’s two different variants of like of a vaccine.
So like the the first is, you know, the traditional way where they they pretty much what they do is they they take a a dead version of of this virus. They inject you with it. It’s also with other [bleep] in it, but in essence, it it like goes in and your body it goes into like the cells and like the cell’s DNA is like, “Oh [bleep] this is a thing and this thing is now something we need to attack.” And so then your body starts creating antibodies to attack this particular thing. It’s not active. So therefore it’s not going to replicate in your body and it’s not going to like in essence like you know create you know I’m not like I’m not like injecting a live [bleep] virus into you like giving you this [bleep] but like your body duplicates it as I need to [bleep] attack this thing and I create antibodies for it.
Therefore, if you get it, you’re you’re more likely to not be affected by it because your body’s already primed to handle it. Okay? Whereas the mRNA is a little bit different. It’s it’s kind of it’s like new science. It’s new technology where it’s pretty much rewriting the coding of your of your cells. Okay. So, it’s like it’s coding your cells to attack a thing as opposed So, you don’t put in the the dead or the live virus. It’s just more like a No, I think they do. I don’t I don’t know. like the I don’t know the full scope of it cuz I’m not a [bleep] like doctor, but my understanding of the mRNA is that they’re putting some form of it in you, but it’s also like it’s like rewriting your DNA.
It’s like coding it’s coding your DNA itself to like to do to do a certain thing. Yeah. When this happens. So it’s it’s it’s different. It’s it’s untested. It’s it’s like a new technology. M so I I terrible. So that basically they were there there was a group of there’s a there’s a group there’s teams trying different approaches all at the same time. Uh by summer of 2020 multiple candidates were in human trials around the globe. An unprecedented number of vaccine trials were running concurrently to this. It’s too fast. It’s I’m sorry. massive funding started to pour in from the government, especially the US government.
Uh the US government created something called, and this has got to be a Trump created name. Uh it’s called Operation Warp Speed. It was it was created by Trump. Yes. Yeah. Where it was uh basically factories uh turned into labs and the greatest factories. These are the greatest factories and billions of dollars. The greatest factories in the [bleep] world. The best [bleep] factories. Biggest to beautiful. I’m sorry. That’s hilarious. It’s so accurate. Uh and billions of dollars into the program to do it at warp speed. Yeah. All right. Sorry. Just a real quick Jorge, help me out here. So mRNA is in essence it’s like it carries instructions for the spike protein.
It has like a little recipe with it. Yeah. It’s like here’s what to do when this thing happens. So it doesn’t actually have any of the actual virus in it like as opposed to old school traditional vaccines which carry a dead version of the virus. It’s your body’s like oh this thing is bad. Oh also I thought it was interesting mRNA. M M is messenger. So it’s like a little messenger that’s taking this recipe into the it goes in and it’s programming. I said it’s like it’s coding the DNA to like okay this is what you do like so when you see that but the the thing about that it’s it’s very it’s highly untested and we’re talking like six months and you’re already like pumping this [bleep] into [bleep] humans and the average vaccine is seven years right?
So just to give you an idea. Yeah. And we’re talking about 0005% of the population. Yeah. And they’re like Yeah. Now some would say that the bright spot or in science in relation to COVID was the collaboration across the planet to find a vaccine. Meaning we were working with the Chinese. Yeah. We were working with everybody. It’s called Project Whoopi in in an effort to come up with this together including pharmaceutical companies partnering with public institutes that were not for profit. Oh, really interesting. It’s it’s interesting how these pharmaceutical companies who made [bleep] tens of billions of dollars and they were literally given immunity from from prosecution for for [bleep] for for giving the giving the quickie vaccine that they made.
And in record time, November 2020, the first phase 3 trial results came in. So, this is from when it was officially announced as a problem in March 11th, 2020 to November 2020. That’s uh that’s eight months essentially. Yeah. It’s such a problem because you’re like like in these trials like just so so people know like so I I work in the banking industry and like we do a lot in the biotech space and so you know there’s a and obviously in the biotech and healthcare space there’s a lot of clinical trials that happen. So, Clinical trials are very regulated, highly highly highly [bleep] regulated. And so in clinical trials, you have to do um various things.
So within these things, you have to do uh placebo tests because you have to give people uh nothing and then you you compare the results against the people who got nothing. Yeah. Because you can you can see you can see very active like okay well the people who got nothing [bleep] worse were fine everything was fine but the people who got something actually like got worse or they got sick or like it it gives you like a standard to go against like you know the standard is like nothing’s happening I’m giving you water and like nothing is so these these trials there was no placebo tests they were not they were there was no placebo test in any of these vaccines.
That’s not true though. Oh, you sure about that? Yeah. So, some of the people in the tens of thousands of ordinary people volunteered for vaccine trials in the midst of the pandemic. And they would get a real vaccine or a placebo. Yeah. I don’t believe it. I mean, I have a source here if you want to look at it. I would Yeah, I’ll I’ll see the source after this episode. I got receipts. Yeah, sure. Was it CNN.com? I know what you’re saying. I know what you’re saying, but you know, per this, right? Per the per the sources. Agree to agree to disagree. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, uh so but in record time, so they came out and they exceeded expectations uh which is a 95% efficacy.
You’re going to stand by that. You’re going to stand by that 95% efficacy. Do you remember at preventing symptomatic COVID 19 in trials? Do you guys remember? I just want to like cuz you guys remember cuz we were all there. We were all alive and and well. So do you remember when they I remember watching the news and it was like every day the efficacy went down. Oh yeah. It was like% they were like okay and then it got was like 62% efficacy and they’re like 50% eicacy. It was more like the end of 21. I I do agree like they they fasttracked it. So yeah.
Yeah. What do you What happens when you fasttrack building a bridge? It [bleep] falls down. Yeah. There’s a screw, a little loosey goose. The bar is not measured right. I don’t know. A little loosey goose, you know, things like that. So that’s got to be the same with this. If you’re fasttracking this, you’re also you’re also fasttracking it like seven years fast track. Yes. So you’re doing it, but it takes seven years because to what you were saying, it’s so regulated. So it’s like you got to ask for a permit or you got to get approved and it takes [bleep] seven months just to get approved.
Yeah. And then you run. So if you remove all this red tape, I mean, you could fast track it in theory. Warp speed that [bleep] You warp speed. Warp speed that with the best the greatest [bleep] factories. The most beautiful vac. They are humongous. Yeah. Okay. So there’s a couple of them. There’s Madna, there’s Astra, Astroenica. Zenica. There you go. And then there’s the Fizer one. Yeah. There was also one in Russian. I don’t know if you guys know, but there was their own vaccine that they developed and it was they called it the Sputnik 5. Oh, jeez. Like, get off the Sputnik. They have no originality in the marketing department there.
Jeez. The Sputnik. Uh there were two in China they developed two vaccines. Uh Sinovac and Sofarm. Uh and I actually didn’t know this at the time. Yeah. Like each country was developing their own. I thought it was just like one. Yeah. But at the time, and I don’t know, you know, I don’t know if I I couldn’t remember if I was like stoked that a vaccine was announced in November of 2020. You do you remember that moment? Like I was not. No. It was too fast. It’s just too fast. Yeah. And it also happened to be when the election happened that month. Yeah. Mhm. It was kind of strange.
I then that’s why I thought like I was because look I voted for Trump but like I was pissed that he was doing that. Yeah. I was pissed about the warp speed thing because I was like this is not a good idea. It’s not a good idea to quicky. We’re like crossing a line here. Yeah. It’s like you can’t like quicky like saving people’s lives. What I didn’t like was the force if you especially again essential workers my wife uh I was very close to that and so you know as were a lot of other essential workers they were being forced to get it otherwise military too.
Oh dude military then and and they were like you were literally you know how many military got fired for not taking the vaccine and doctors do like dude non-stop. It’s like you can’t you can’t make someone inject something into their body like that. You got to have, you know, it’s it’s a thing too. Oh, you know, body autonomy, all this the [bleep] That’s what made me like not trusted. You started, you started to get conspiracy. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Started the podcast right after. Exactly, dude. I mean, honestly, I mean, we got honestly. I mean, one could say that the podcast was birthed in co.
I mean, we spawned a little bit like we talked about it before, but then co happened, we’re like, we got to do this. Yeah. Uh to give you an idea or comparison of speed, the fastest ever vaccine created was for the MS and the MS was in the 60s and it took four years and that’s the fastest in history. That’s the fastest in history. Took [bleep] six and a half months. Yeah. So there you go. Uh and we there’s a lot more to go into on the uh the vaccine roll out. Um oh yeah you know because in December 2020 uh vaccinations began in earnest in some countries um a 90 yearear-old woman in the UK received the very first fizer shot on December 8th.
Okay. So it’s like so that gives you an idea that was the day it rolled out the first person that got the injections. Yes. Uh doses were Did they do that on TV? I think they did. It was like a whole PR. Yeah. There was a whole thing. Uh doses were initially scarce. So most countries created priority lists. And this is like a [bleep] movie. I swear to God. Yeah. Like these guys are on the list and you’re not on the list. And you know you’re immune and you’re Anyways, yeah. Doses uh the elite were at the top. Weird. Well, apparently apparently it was healthcare workers first, older people, and then those with high risk conditions.
Those were first in line. Um, anyways, so by 2021, millions of people then rolled up their sleeves and were vaccinated. So, get the jab. Everybody got the jab. Yes. Real quick before we end off. Yeah. One of my favorite [bleep] videos ever is that dude, I don’t know what who the hamburger one. Yeah. He’s like, “Oh my god. Oh, you get a jab. You get a free hamburger.” We posted it. He’s like, he’s like a senator. It’s so It’s like that I just got a jab and I’m eating a hamburger for breakfast. Is that okay? And he’s like and he’s like, “You get free fries?
Are you serious? You don’t want freaking free hamburger?” When I saw that, I was like, “This is the sleaziest used car salesman pitch to like inject some [bleep] foreign [bleep] in your body.” I That’s when I was like, there’s there’s a problem. Like something’s happening if they’re doing this. Yeah. Well, so in the next episode, we’re going to wrap up the vaccinations, how they rolled out, also the effects of them that were not intended. Yes. Mhm. Right. Cuz there are there are quite a few. Yeah. And then we have the aftermath of co um what happened to us all like what’s you know all the money that was printed.
Yes. Oh, everything that’s going on there cuz you know we’ve done so many of these episodes and it’s there’s so much related to money so I couldn’t leave it out where it was like how much money was printed during that time period given out the PPP loans and all the things all the scams oh my god oh my god everywhere and so and then we will get into what we put together was the hardcore conspiracies it’s called the six I I have six main conspiracies. Yeah. One is about the lab door that was an engineered door that they leaked out in Wuhan in the lab.
It’s a really kind of an interesting theory. Uh one was that there are these invisible towers being with you remember when 5G was coming out. Are we all worried that 5G was like putting out [bleep] CO and like all this sort of thing? So there’s a conspiracy about that 5G caused COVID in the beginning. There’s some wild ones, right? And then in and then also microchips in vaccines. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And controlling the population. And then one of the bigger ones is new world order is the great reset. And a lot of conspiracy theorists know about the great reset which is that that the the bad guys at the top want to cleanse the earth.
Oh yeah. It’s a big thing like this whole this whole concept of overpopulation overpopulation but but literally statistically like we cannot survive as a race as a species without reproducing. Yes. And the numbers we are already at right now cannot sustain our society. Yeah. And and we got to get into the whole like um experiment social experiment aspect of it. Mhm. Oh yeah, that 1984 like how much how much can we take before they push like pushing the envelope of what we can control? Yeah. What what can we make them do without them getting [bleep] pissed? Yeah. And actually, you know, the vaccines was a crazy part of it because uh I mean people families were arguing or or separated on their Oh, dude.
choice of should you get vaccinated, should you not get vaccinated? Uh, [bleep] you. You’re not getting vac. You can’t travel. Yes. All like I remember uh you couldn’t go to We We wanted to go to Canada. Where’d you go? I went to Canada. You went to Quebec, right? Quebec. Yeah. Yeah. So, I wanted to go there. I remember. And uh you couldn’t if you unless you’re vaccinated and this and then passporting passport. Yeah. Anyways, there you go guys. Uh any other like where you guys at so far? I mean, I know you guys me, let’s be real. You know where I’m at. Government and truth and aliens, but mostly government.
You know what I’d love to do though is uh do a survey. I know that like most people are a majority of people think 9/11 is some sort of cover up. Mhm. Oh, for sure. But I I wonder about co That’s a good, you know, that’s a great question. We should put up a poll even on our Instagram. True. and Spotify, where you guys Yeah. both. I would actually be really curious to see is like is, you know, do you think that there’s an ulterior motive here? Yeah. Or do you think it was just the natural progression of what you do to save the people?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was a good exercise to go back and go, we’ve been through this before. Well, no, it’s actually a great exercise. It’s also you you see the statistics of what happened in the past. Yeah. And like you know it’s it’s you have to compare and that’s why I brought up that’s why I you know I brought up the the tough subject of like statistic statistically speaking this pandemic in terms of like the death rate is was a drop in the bucket in comparison it’s like not even remotely close to [bleep] how devastating these other ones were. So it’s like it’s an interesting thing.
Is it was it worth it? All right. Was it worth it doing what we did? Yeah. And maybe that’s the final poll that we do at the end of the third episode. Was it worth it? Yeah. Was it worth was all the things worth it? Yeah, that’s a I think that’s a great poll. Yeah. And maybe on Instagram or whatever we’ll put up, do you think COVID was a [bleep] or like nefarious motives question. [bleep] [bleep] foot. There you go. There was a [bleep] foot. Yes. No. All right. All right, there you go, guys. Uh, hope you enjoyed the episode. Uh, as always, leave us a review.
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