Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. Look who decided to [bleep] show up. Yeah. And thanks for joining us, Eric. Hey, this is vacation. We’re back. work. Everybody is back. Everybody can start listening again. You’re back. Uh, pleasure to be back, everybody. I took a little vacay and boys held down the fort. Much appreciated. Yeah. One of these days I’m going to take a vacation. What are you going to do? I don’t know. I’ll just like just sleep and be hopefully maybe if I’m lucky. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, I went on a backpacking trip into uh Northern California. It was It was pretty great.

It looked beautiful. Yeah, it was like Yeah. Look, that one with a deer was in the mist. I was like, that was like [bleep] picturesque. It was fake. Yeah, it looked like an M Shyamalan like Chad GBT. Believe it. Make people think I’m awesome. I didn’t really go. I went to like downtown Chicago. The smoke machine is just like in the background. Mhm. Anyways, we’re back. We’ve got a a pretty big one here that we’ve been working on. We’ve been waiting mostly. Yeah. And mostly waiting to not get cancelled. Exactly. Yeah. Cuz we’re kind of scaredy-cats. Yeah. This the podcast is kind of important to us and like we’re not big enough too big to fail.

So we’re small enough to fail. Actually, what happened is is the the podcast was almost formed during co. It was formed. And so what happened is we would put the word we would put the even after right. So in 2022 or Yeah. We would we would call it the 2022 situ the 2020 situation. Yeah. Like whatever. Like the [bleep] the 2020 disease. Yeah. Like the thing that happened that time. Yeah. It was weird because we would put I think a couple times we put co into it and then we got flagged on all the social media and Spotify would flag Spotify would would literally flag you and so you couldn’t Oh, they literally you get like blacklisted and I think at the time it was it was because I mean why did they do that?

because because there was false misinformation and now everyone’s like well it’s so extreme though it it reminded me of 1984 the book% it was like you cannot say this word that word you know and it was kind of creepy the government was involved in this which massive propaganda machine [bleep] [bleep] and you started to notice which uh media outlets were on board with it or not on board with it right that was when like Rumble became a thing because they were like We won’t. You can say what the [bleep] you want. We don’t care. And remember those videos were coming out where it was like 15 news outlets saying the scripted the same thing.

Yeah. Yeah. The misinformation mis but it was like more than 15. It was like 70. Yeah. Uh but we felt it’s time to do it. Yes. Yeah. Let’s do it. So this is the episode uh and it’s going to be a part two as well. It might be a part three, but we’ll see how long it goes. But um it’s COVID 19. Uh and it’s the history of pandemics and COVID 19. Yes. The big boy. Mhm. As we do. And like I just want to like you know quick preface. Yeah. You know, don’t get pissed that you know we do a backstory. That’s what we do.

Mhm. It’s always what we’ve done. I mean this is episode like [bleep] 16. Like you guys know the deal. Yeah. Yeah. That’s what we do. That’s what we do. That’s what we do. So get ready for uh the history of pandemics and leading up to CO 19. Additionally, we we do want to recognize because a lot of our episodes are historical. True. Meaning it’s not about necessarily that something that affects somebody that’s here now. Yes. So like this is not to be like insensitive to anyone who was affected by it. Um obviously it’s a really tragic situation. Yeah. You know, it affected every person here.

Every person on earth. Yeah. pretty much. Yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah, some of course like passed on from this and what, so we’re not trying to be insensitive and in that regard, but as we always do, we’re going to get into it and we’re going to make some jokes here and there, but but it’s not a joke against you. It’s it’s just for us to feel better about our lives. This is all it is. Did uh did you guys know anybody that was like really affected by it? Aside financially, aside from lockdowns, aside from that, but like uh I mean me and my wife both got CO and it was terrible.

Yeah, it was actually terrible. Yeah. I I mean I think I think anybody that got it pretty much was Well, I got some I got some people that got it and it was like they were like, “Yeah, I kind of didn’t feel that great.” But me, like we both had it simultaneously and at the time our daughter was was like one and a half. And it was it was it’s the worst. We would take like 15 minute shifts and I feel like it’s my turn to lay down. I can’t do this. Like it was so bad. But my daughter never got it. She was she was happy and healthy the whole time.

Thank God. I had a cousin, his dad ended up dying from it. I mean to the hospital and Yeah. you know, he developed complications and and whatnot. And yeah, so that was probably the I think Yeah, I think that’s the only one that I know that actually died from it. And of course, like you’re saying, a lot of people that got it, including myself, it was like [bleep] horrible. Worse. I got it multiple times. Really? Oh, yeah. This Yeah. Okay, we’ll get into it. I’m not going to like I’m I’m already starting like I’m already like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stop myself. I actually never got it.

Uh really? Yeah. I mean, unless I got it and I didn’t know, you know, there’s the dormant co, whatever the [bleep] they call long co, short co. I mean, I am a specimen above most. Oh, yeah. Like, I am a perfect. Oh, so is that? I’m just kidding. I was going to say that’s how you lost your hair. The co just took your hair. It’s a sacrifice I had to make. I know, right? Turkey, here we come. Okay. So, uh we’re going to start a little bit with um the history of pandemics. So, pandemics have long been woven into the fabric of human history, shaping the rise and fall of civilizations.

Throughout the ages, outbreaks of infectious diseases have altered the course of wars, devastated populations, changed civilizations, transformed the economies of places. Time and again, such outbreaks have decimated societies and even determined the outcome of the wars. From ancient plagues recorded in scripture to the global crisis of CO 19 in our time, pandemics have repeatedly tested humanity’s resilience or wiped out an entire civilization. Some even say that some of those lost civilizations are not from aliens, are not from whatever. Like if I’m like they got a disease. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Um, some say like uh who built Machu Picchu? Um, the Mexicans. No, the Aztecs. Sorry.

Peru. Or what? [Laughter] The asex, wasn’t it? Yeah. Well, there’s the Aztec that everybody knows. The Incas. That’s what I was trying to say. Point being though is that some say that that’s what wiped them out because there are some civilizations that you don’t know what happened. Well, no, there was a there was a big thing um they did uh I thought it was really cool. They did like the LAR scans on like the rain the Amazon rainforest and they found all these like superructures and they were like holy [bleep] So the the theory is that like the largest civilization in mank like at the time was in the Amazon rainforest and then when the when the Spanish came and like the concistadors and they were like trying to [bleep] explore everything they brought like smallox and they brought like they brought they brought the plagues and these people their their immune systems were not attuned to they literally [bleep] nuked everybody like everyone got [bleep] Yeah.

No. So so it’s actually like it’s a very plausible thing that could have happened. Um so we’re going to start in the time period of antiquity and they call it antiquity and that’s basically the time of like Athens and you know few hundred BC or you know I mean I’m butchering the definition but it’s in that in that period right old old am and these are the ones that we know of for sure yeah that we have like like we’re kind of talking about some of the things that we don’t know like some say that even Atlantis was wiped out by I mean some say yeah some say most people you know we did an episode an updated episode on this co 19 uh you remember the vaccines you remember um remember Rowanoke remember the lost colony of Ronoke oh they think they were just wiping they think they were yeah they think they were just they disease came but they didn’t find any like disappeared remains or anything anywhere yeah it’s true so that was why it was sketch yeah anyways anyways I am one of the first recorded pandemics struck during the Pelop Ponyian War in 430 BC as the city state of Athens was besieged by Sparta.

So you remember that story? My boy Sparta. Yeah. So these [bleep] these little [bleep] potters and these like this like you know these little fruity liberals in Athens we’re going to [bleep] go stomp their ass out. Okay. So during the siege a plague erupted inside the city walls. There was a historian, Thusidities, and I might be butchering that. Uh, he lived through it and he described people in high fever, red eyes, bloody coughs, and violent thirst. Oh, is that rabies? I’ve never had a violent thirst. Well, maybe have violent thirst. Yeah. With like a a hangover morning. Like a a violent like violent You mean like tomorrow?

Yeah. Like I’m like, “Where’s the cold water?” Yeah. or you’re like camping in a desert and you wake up and you’re like sand paper. Um suffering so desperately that some cast themselves into self-indulgence. That’s what he said. What does that mean? Yeah. Okay. So, just imagine you’re in so much pain you’re like, I’m going to like how much pain would it take for you to be or something? I’m going to get extremely drunk because the drunk or or I mean very little I’m going to do almost no pain at all. Like I got to do a podcast. I know. It’s like I’m hot. I think I need to get violently or and truth be told like what would it take for you to reach that new level of I need some sort of pain killer.

Yeah. Like I need to like step I need to like step it up like you know I think I’m going to do I’m going to black out or Yeah. [bleep] like where’s the drugs at? Like have you ever been in so much pain you’re like give me like a Yeah. Yeah. just a set like give me I don’t know what the when I had volume or some [bleep] when I had my leg surgery and I had like two screws put in my leg I would wake up and I would be like I need something oh I I need I need it like now. Yeah. Yeah.

So I’m assuming that’s what they’re talking about which is cast themselves into self-indulgence. Oh do anything to dumb it down. Pleasure. Pleasure. Pleasure. Like how do we get a semblance of pleasure? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways the old brothel God damn it. This little wine and a little It’s like high fever here. Listen, honey. You don’t understand. You’re going to have to go to the lower lower one. I know. I don’t know if they’re going to take somebody. Is that the high end? They have [bleep] like like lesions. Two copper coin. You’re in. Just give me the lowest one. Me the lowest one. That’s a dude.

[bleep] it. Come on. Come in. uh where so the the illness which likely originated in Africa although we don’t know that I don’t know why they it’s put into the historian saying that it’s likely originated in Africa u but it spread rapidly through the Athenian population. Doctors and caregivers caught the disease alongside their patients. Oh [bleep] Which is a nightmare. So you’re trying to help. Yeah. Exactly. The social order began to break down. Fear and despair became rampant and the laws and norms began to be non-existent. It’s anarchy. Yeah, exactly. So, if you followed a rule of don’t steal from your neighbor, let’s just take that one.

Don’t steal from your neighbor. You’re suffering pure misery. Your daughter is [bleep] suffering pure misery. [bleep] the code. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I heard Eric’s got Ivormectum and he Yeah. And he has no weapons. So, right. He’s afraid of guns. Loser. Yes. Up first. Yes. So, we’re going to Eric’s house, you know. No, I always I always I I’ve had this conversation with my wife. I think about like weird stuff. I’m like, if if you really wanted to if you really wanted to [bleep] [bleep] up like imagine imagine New York City if they were able to detonate an EMP in New York City.

like no power, no nothing, no internet in New York City for one week. It would it would implode. It would be [bleep] man. People be killing everybody. Like you’d be in like nice little the [bleep] Fifth Avenue, Park Avenue. You’re [bleep] everyone’s dead. Like it’d be psycho. And uh they did you ever see the purge? Oh, it’s exactly the same concept, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There’s no rules now. Just do uh in the purge they have some rule where it’s like a holiday. It’s one day. But one day of the year, there’s no laws. Yeah. And that’s how they they got crime. Chaos. So people go out and they steal each other’s [bleep] and [bleep] murder.

For one day, Eric, I got to get my revenge on Eric. So you go to Eric’s house cuz you know he doesn’t have guns. Perch. Yeah. Right. Eric would be at my house like, “Listen, what’s going to cost? Let me protect me. Protect me please. Will you remember that one time? I’ll give you some my E.” No, I won’t. It’s like [bleep] I I’ll be fine. Yeah. Over the course of roughly 2 years, the plague killed an estimated 25% of the entire population. But where were they where like the Athens? No, but did the uh the Spartans get it too? Are they’re like so like [bleep] yokeked up they’re like immune to Good question.

A lot of people say that it was the one of the main contributors to them. They eventually lost to Sparta. So they were taken over. So 25% now to give that into perspective that would be what is the US right now? 300 370. Oh [bleep] Yeah. It’s like probably I think it’s close to 375. So that would be about 75 million people dying in the US. That’s a lot of people. Damn. That’s so many people in two years. Yeah. That would be like catastrophic. Yeah. Uh included in that was the leader of the city. He died from it as well. So it would be like you know crazy.

I mean, listen, let’s be honest. Like, that would happen here, too. Like, all of our leaders are 90. So, you know, like I’m sorry. Yeah. The the pandemic weakened Athens significantly at at a crucial point in the war. The exact cause of the Athenian plague remains uncertain today. But some say it’s a typhoid fever similar to Ebola. A typhoid. typhoid like a jungle fever or like that kind of and like Ebola like they said the red eyes. Yeah. So like Ebola causes you to bleed through like all of your morphoses including like anything that has the blood vessels are connected to your start you’re bleeding out.

You’re bleeding out your skin, your eyes, your nose, your [bleep] ears. Like you’re just bleeding everything out everything. Um and then and then a lot of people say that it was the one of the main contributors to them. They eventually lost to Sparta. So they were taken over. So they say that I mean just imagine you’re [bleep] decimated 25% midw war. You know what I mean? So there you go. That’s also morale is like zero. Oh my god. Yeah. Like I’m not fighting anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the plague of Athens. Uh fast forward a couple hundred years. There’s Antonin plague. That was in like 180 AD.

Uh, the Roman Empire was struck by another devastating epidemic during the reign of Emperor Marcus Aurelius. Troops returning from a campaign in the Near East brought back an infection that would rage for 15 years. Holy [bleep] Damn. This plague, this outbreak is believed to have been smallox. Oh [bleep] Unlike the localized plague of Athens, this plague swept across the entire Roman Empire. Yeah. It’s also like Athens is like they have like that’s all they got. Rome’s got everything like the [bleep] world. And strangely enough, Rome was known for is this massive connection of roads that no other civilization had. But call the old virus highway.

There you go. It does. Exactly. So that almost played against them because it was so easy to spread. So easy to transport like almost today with planes. Exactly. Oh, true. You know what I mean? I mean way different but obviously much faster. That’s why also it lasted 15 years. Yeah. Yeah. In some areas, it killed as much as a third of the population. Contemporary accounts describe fever, skin eruptions, severe diarrhea, all consistent with now what’s considered smallox. Some even say that Marcus Aurelius him is that’s how he died. But we don’t know exactly. No, we don’t know. This is also ancient Rome. So like the effect on Rome was profound.

The army was decimated, frontier defenses weakened, and the economy strained by uh the lower class was so wiped out from it that there’s a lab to do the work. There you go. There’s a labor shortage. So then you have this major problem. And some historians it created the conditions for the eventual decline of the Roman Empire. Isn’t it interesting to think like I know this is like kind of nonsequator, but like how all power is derived from like getting people beneath you to do things for you. That’s how all power is. It’s like the president doesn’t have any power other than the power the power that we give them.

Yeah. Generals same way. It’s like, you know, the a CEO, it’s like you don’t really have any power. Like if you if they’re if everyone was like, “Yeah, we’re not going to work for you.” Like the company doesn’t exist anymore. He therefore loses all power. It’s interesting how power is derived from leverage over others. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just a fun fact. That is kind of [bleep] insane, though. True. We have the power. [bleep] the government. Okay. Okay. And then we’re going to fast forward. There were a couple other pandemics. Um, you know, I don’t want to say they were less, uh, but we’re just kind of going over the more well-known in history.

Yeah. The big the big boys. Yeah. Exactly. Um, and this one is called The Black Death. Oh, yeah. And this one I put a little bit more effort into studying it. And I think more people know about this one, too. It’s like it’s more it’s it’s closer to present. Yeah. even though it was still like you know like 800 years 700 it’s in the 14th century so yeah yeah 700 years 600 years and uh even today we celebrate Halloween and one of the biggest costumes is a black death outfit oh the reaper yeah well you know the guy with the long thing that’s straight from the black death and that was like the what did they there’s a specific name for it oh my god what the [bleep] it called we’ll go we’ll go over why that was created And how I don’t know, you know, why it became such a [bleep] Halloween costume cuz it’s terrifying looking.

That’s really what it’s like steampunk death vibes. Like uh in the mid4th century, a catastrophe of almost unimaginable scale struck, the black death. This pandemic, an outbreak of bubanic plague, earned the grim title of the deadliest pandemic in recorded history. Mhm. It began quietly in the 1300s in China where plague had smoldered in provinces like Hubai. Through traders and caravans the contagion traveled along the ancient Silk Road and aboard merchant ships. In 1347, it arrived in Europe. Ships from the Black Sea docked in Mediterranean ports like Sicily, etc. with crew members dying mysteriously. Over the next few years, the disease cut a swath of devastation across the continent.

Within five years, its emergence in Europe, the Black Death had killed an estimated 25 million people. And especially back in the hizzy, that’s hella [bleep] That’s almost 40% of Europe’s Europe’s population. Jesus. You imagine like [bleep] four out of every 10 people, you know, is dead, probably including you. Yeah. That’s crazy. It’s also crazy that it started in Asia. Yeah. which for co I’m just kidding weird weird Wuhan come from Wuhan [bleep] bike. Wouldn’t that be insanity? Did you ever go? Like they have the worst cave ever and it’s like it’s cave. [bleep] [bleep] That would be horrible. That’s where Bruce Wayne’s parents died too [bleep] bad cave.

Uh by 1400 the world’s population had dropped from about 450 million to around 350 million. That’s wild [bleep] So estimates are over 100 million people died. That’s so many people worldwide from this. Uh some regions were hit harder than others. Certain cities saw 60% or more of their people wiped out. So victims would initially experience fever, chills, and agonizing pain. Soon the telltale sign of bubos, the bubos, the bubonic. So that was where that word came from. The bubos were swollen lymph nodes and it would erupt in the groin, armpits, or neck. Oh, [bleep] Damn it. To wor self-indulgence. I know. No indulgence. It was the worst.

It’s going to get so gross. Hold on. An Italian writer named Giovani Bakiku. He he witnessed the plague in Florence. Gave a firsthand account. He said, “In men and women alike, it first betrayed itself by the emergence of certain tumors in the groin or armpits, after which the form of the malady began to change. Black spots or livid marks making their appearance on the arms or thighs or elsewhere, few large andor small and numerous.” That’s why it was called the black black plague. That’s right. So then it became the black plague because people would come out with black spots. Just black spots everywhere. Just black spots all over themselves.

It was like actually terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s Yeah. Yeah. Like if you visited me at the hospital and I had black spots everywhere, you’d be like, “Peace FaceTime.” Yeah. I mean, it would I would be like, “Oh my god.” I’d be like, “Kayen, um, time to move on. E. Good luck, buddy. E, it attacked his groin. He’s got nothing left. Without any effective treatment in the 14th century, the mortality rate of the bubanic plague was around 70%. Dude, that’s [bleep] psychic. Oh [bleep] So, get it sentence. Typically, a person might fall ill and be dead within about seven days. The speed. That’s fast. 70% seven.

Damn. 77. First day, groin gum. Lucky number seven. Second day, armpits. Third day, black spots. Everybody stays away. And then you just go into a hole and die by yourself. Uh, the speed of the illness and the grotesque symptoms created terror. That’s hard to explain. Medieval people were utterly bewildered about the cause. They just didn’t understand where it was coming from because they didn’t have germ theory. Well, it’s also funny like it’s it’s weird to think like back they’re like where is it coming from? Meanwhile, they’re literally throwing their [bleep] out the window like onto the street. Where’s this plague coming from? Like I wonder like rats as pets and like literally like [bleep] Jesus.

What could be happening? They’re like bloodletting and then [bleep] and then Jesus of course man bloodletting. What a hilarious thing. If I take the thing out that keeps me alive. So you could you could imagine the things they came up with as explanations. And this became all the way from uh you know you broke the cardinal rules God’s mad at you spiting everybody or to mystic uh or you were Yes. or a color or you were a class or you all all the different things. One early report blamed an unusual alignment of planets. Oh, they were still thinking about astrology back then. So, another theory was a poisonous bad air of fog that arose from swamps and swept through the land.

I mean, while they’re grasping onto anything. Yeah. They’re like, “Fuck it. I saw a flower and it looked a little sketch.” In reality though, uh, now it’s been determined the black death was caused by bacteria carried by fleas that were that infested rats. Yes. Cuz there are rats that you’re aware. Yeah. Infested rats. So the rat the fleas were on the rats. Okay. And then the fleas would bite people. Mhm. And then that would pass. So the rats were the ones that were carrying the rats were carrying because they were everywhere. Yeah. The sewer systems like in old school London were like not advanced. Yeah.

They were like the chain of transmission began when an infected rodent the population would die off and then the fleas had nowhere to go. So like these people found their way to humans. Damn. Yeah. The uh what’s also horrible is that the plague then transformed or not transformed but like mutated to al also be respiratory. Oh. So then now now that’s like you breathe on your helium. a bad movie. Like, oh no, the the virus has spread. It’s airborne. It’s airborne. [bleep] seven days later. Like, was that movie? Uh oh. Outbreak. Yeah. Monkey. There’s also there’s also Contagion like in the 28 Days movies like I don’t think I saw that one.

There’s a whole series of 28 days later. 28 weeks later. 28 years later. So good. I got to see the new one though. I haven’t seen the new one either. I want to uh of course medieval Europeans had no concept of bacteria or germ theory or bathing or so they only saw general hygiene any kind of hygiene. Yeah. So again they only saw it as spreading somehow with no rational explanation. So then of course fear superstition took hold. It’s also likened to do you remember when co happened? Mhm. We have no idea what’s going on. Remember when it was right like I don’t know a couple months I would say they weren’t 100% sure if it was airborne and stuff.

We don’t know. Yeah. They’re like we don’t know anything. Italy they’re like something was like Italy was like they were like shit’s going on here but we don’t really know what’s going on. Yeah. Exactly. So we didn’t know how it was transmission transmitted. So anyways and then like we had touched on many believe the plague was divine punishment for sins. uh you know, religious processions began uh of of people going from town to town whipping themselves to flagagillation. Flagillation. That’s right. Whipping themselves to atone for the sins of man. Wait, what flagagillation? That’s what flagagillation is like your that’s your atonement for sin is like in essence the theory behind it is like trying to put yourself through what Jesus went through.

That’s right. Jesus was beat mercilessly with Cats of Ninetales and like you know all like the trials and tribulations of his and him taking on that burden for everyone. So you try to emulate that to absolve yourself of which I think is a stupid thing to do. Why not just be a good person and try to give back to the community? I think I think Jesus would think that’s a far better solution than beating the [bleep] out of yourself. Yeah. Yeah, you got [bleep] fear running through the whole town at the I’m going to do anything. Yeah. When when seven seven out of 10 of your homies are dead, you’re like, “Fuck it.” Like, I’m going to do No.

And you want to try anything. I mean, to liken it to a very small example, like uh when I was younger, I had a really bad skin condition. And I mean, this is not the same at all. Okay. Just not even not even close. But at a certain point, I tried every single thing that I could that you started expanding out to weird [bleep] Yeah. You’re like, I wonder if I had jizz on it. Jesus Christ. You know, there’s some enzymes, you know, like No, at some point you go into the you go into the path of like, okay, well, I’m going to try aloe plants now and there’s no reason to do it necessarily.

And then you go into No, I know, but I mean that’s good. No, I know it’s good, but then you go into the next level and you go, yeah. Oh, okay. I uh black tar. Let’s put some black tar from a volcano on it cuz you know and then you go you keep going and you go I’m going to try to solve this via I don’t know Chick-fil-A sandwiches and [bleep] self-indulgence going on here. Self-indulgence. Yeah. I need seven spicy chickens, please. It’s for my skin condition. Don’t believe me. Anyways, I know it’s not the same, but I’m just trying to get the mindset. The mindset of you’re trying to solve this problem.

You’ll do you’ll do whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. Yeah, that’s right. Um especially when like you know 25% of like the population of your continental zone is like dead. Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. Uh and then one of the darkest chapters of that that plague is that in some cities um the Christians started accusing the Jews for this. Here we go. Classic. It’s just like it’s a tale as old as time. It’s just like the [bleep] Come on, guys. Uh in some cities, entire Jewish quarters were exterminated by mobs. No way. What? I did not know this. And there were massacres of Jews. What?

So, while they were dying of the plague themselves, they were accused of being the reason God is mad. Mhm. You know what I mean? And you get you get into this. So, it’s like, how can you see that? It leads to the extreme. How can you come to crazier and crazier come to that conclusion? It’s like they also believe in God. It’s just what are you talking about? Just imagine you’re very religious and then your wife dies. Oh. And you’re like the kid dies. You need someone to blame and you’re blame you’ll blame you’ll blame anybody. You’ll blame anybody. Yeah. Exactly. And so you’re grasping for a responsible.

See, I’m I’m I was I’d be more likely to like blame my boss like it’s his [bleep] fault. Like and then I’d mob his ass, you know? Not like this whole other religious sect. I’d be like, “Yeah, it’s his this [bleep] right here.” Uh for the panic populace, the medicine offered little help. Imagine being a doctor at this time. Most doctors actually fled the cities because they had no idea what to do. Their remedies at the time were bloodletting. Uh incense. Really? Yeah. Burning incense to purify the air. Now imagine if you’re like, “Oh, it’s from the air. The swamp fog. You remember that? So, okay, let’s get some incense in here and and and blow it out.

Smells nice. Crazy, right? Yeah. Magic. So, another report came out that because of all the doctors fle like fleeing, all that was left were like lowbrow doctors, snake oil sales, hell. Oh, I got this tonic. Trust me on this, brother. I.e. quacks. Yes. Things like that. But they started selling. they started to benefit and oh they were made from hella dough all the dough like these these beans are magical beans and you know oh like you understand yes don’t even try to plant one of these [bleep] like you don’t even know these horse dewormers trust me oh I got these horse dewormers yeah it’s actually kind of the start of marketing really sounds horrible I have this I have this thing and and uh it’s over there but it basically I am always sold on water that’s from a mountain or Iceland.

I bought Iceland water for like $8.99, but I was sold on it. But it’s the same [bleep] water. It’s like from a glacier. You’re like, “It’s got to be and the bottle looks cool.” But there’s no proof that it’s even from a glacier. It’s like it’s literally like the guys are filling it up with tap water like seal that [bleep] up. Or it’s like a big vat and they have one droplet of glacier water. Yeah. They’re like it’s glacier approved. It’s sweetie water. Trust me. Trust me, sweetie. That’s when he dipped it in this water. Promises. Uh, some advice veered into superstition, carrying around a posie of flowers to ward off the bad air.

Oh, this where the ring around the rosie came from. And this is where this is the formation of the child song. Ring around the posie. Ring around the rosie. Ring around the rosie. Pocket pocket full of posies. So, the flowers. It’s actually a dark very horrible tune. Yeah. Cuz it’s bringing around the like you go around you do the flowers and ashes to ashes death. No, I thought I thought it was like ashes ashes they all fall down. I thought they weren’t they burning the bodies. They were like [bleep] just burning the corpses like of the infected. No idea. So if you ever hear that song again don’t sing that song.

Don’t play it for your children. I just did that like but yeah like with my daughter and he’s like playing like around the we all fall down. I know. all happy and I know uh in many places the social structure just collapsed. It was observed that some family members just simply abandoned that at the first sign of infection so afraid they were catching it in cities that were once bustling it just became like a ghost town. Oh, well, you know it’s you know it’s going full DGN. Just imagine right now. Just imagine like some [bleep] like this happened like we lose like you know two two of us are gone.

I don’t know which two but two of us are gone. Yeah. I mean you most most of your Okay. Eric’s like I I feel great. I don’t know what’s wrong. Don’t forget the specimen. Like the V the deep V and then like most of our families are gone. It’s like I mean I would be I’d be at the [bleep] [bleep] Hard Rock. You’d be beside yourself, right? Oh, I would be like psycho. I’d be going I’d be doing psycho [bleep] As I said, I’d be either the hard rock gambling. I’d sell my house, put all on [bleep] black like let’s ride in like a top hat in like a martini.

No, I’m just going to shoot a bum. Like I’m going to do I’m going to do crazy [bleep] Dude, literally I’m like [bleep] yo. Yeah. Um I just you lose all like Yeah. All the reasons that you’re like trying to persist and live are gone. Why are you like you start to wonder why do I why am I even alive? Yeah. What am I doing? Yeah. Like uh and then some I mean at a certain point entire neighborhoods were wiped out sometimes villages and it just left everything empty. So the main city metropolises were empty or you know what I mean? You’d walk around as empty and and Black Rockck comes in and buys up all the property, dude.

And I’m not saying it’s the same thing, but you recall co the empty streets. Remember the picture of uh of Time Square? Yes. Like crazy. Completely empty. So it’s, you know, Anyways, um it was also illegal to go like after that. Uh there in the aftermath of the Black Death, Europe was never the same. With so many dead, a severe labor shortage gave surviving peasants and workers new bargaining power. Oh yeah. They’re like, “Look, you want me to work them fields, homie? You have to pay me like 20 pence, bitch.” Feudal lords desperate for labor had to make more deals and higher wages, better terms.

They had to attract workers. This began to unravel the the main feudal surfom system. Yeah. That was there. Right. So there was so you know like there was actually like you know the silver lining. Yeah. The silver lining is the common man. Yeah. You know they started making unions and [bleep] Yeah. Like they’re like okay. So eventually though that gave rise to what would become the middle class. Yeah. So no longer just a low class. It was just like the low. It was the peasant class and then like the elites. Yes. And then you’re like, “Oh my god, I need a carpenter so bad. I’m going to double your wages.” And then all of a sudden he’s like kind of a legit No, but then that guy can be like, “Oh, okay.

He has all the lines in with like all of his people.” And he’s like, “Look, I’ll pay you guys this.” And then I’ll be the intermediary and I’ll get you better wages than you were making before. I’ll give you 50% increase on what you were making. But he but then he’s the middleman, so he’s making out great. And everyone else is happy because they’re like, “This guy hooked us up.” But he’s like, “Hell yeah, I’m getting the,” you know, then you get this like third party kind of system and that’s where you get the middle. You see the evolution of literally just spiderw webs out.

Yeah. One of the most endur enduring and unsettling images from plague history is what we talked about earlier and it’s the plague doctor. That outfit that we talked about in Halloween. Uh it it appeared in later outbreaks of the Black Death, but it was a long bird-like beak mask and it wasn’t a fashion choice. But it was like their there was like their that was that was their co mask. Yeah. That was their I’m not even kidding. That was their COVID mask. It was an early attempt at personal protective equipment. Yeah. Yeah. At the time, many believe the disease spread through poisonous bad smelling air.

It’s got to smell bad to be poisonous. So there the beak. Yes. You know, you know where it’s at, right? So the beak was stuffed with essentially herbs and incense. Oh, I love how the who the incense salesman was like destroying. Trust me, it smells good. It can’t be poisonous. It’s got to clean the poison out. Uh, also some uh packed it with vinegar soaked sponges. Okay, that’s a good idea as they thought it would purify the air. That’s actually not a bad idea cuz like vinegar is very acidic and it can kill like you know microbes that go onto it. That’s actually not a bad idea.

Now imagine how horrible wearing that would be though. Oh, am I breathing in vinegar? Oh my god. It’s like the worst. You puke every like six minutes. You’re like, “Oh my god.” Yeah. It’s like when I like fall asleep with salt and vinegar chips in my my my beard. Same thing. 100%. Same thing. Facts. Yeah. Same thing. Uh the round glass openings shielded against contaminated vapors and the heavy waxed leather or oil cloth coat, gloves, and boots were meant to kept the pestilence from clinging to the skin or the clothing. In practice or in reality, the outfit actually offered little zero [bleep] protection from the real thing which was flea bites.

Exactly. Like, oh, I’m not going to breathe [bleep] in, dog. Well, granted, it did eventually become respiratory passed. So, it’s like you’re getting some prediction, but you’re still [bleep] But it created this weird eerie dark silhouette, a towering figure, blank glass eyes, and a curved beak. And it became an icon. Yeah. Why do they have to make it look so scary? Like, could they make it like look inviting? Still to this day, if you go to uh what’s the place called? Uh the Halloween place. Oh, yeah. The uh what’s this? The the [bleep] [bleep] Oh, I know what you’re talking about. Supertore. Oh, god. I love that.

What is it called? I go there every year. Halloween supertore. Spooky store as my daughter calls it. Spooky store. Okay, we’re going to get 17 comments on that. Yes, exactly. Showing a photo of it. Yeah. Nice. He’s in a full trench coat, too. Jesus. Yeah. Halloween superto. [bleep] That’s Halloween Express. No, it’s everywhere. Oh, you want to go to [Laughter] Spirit? Spirit Halloween. God damn it. Spirit Halloween. Okay. If you go to Spirit Halloween store, even this year, coming next month or whatever it is. Oh, it’s already open. It’s already open. Oh, no. They’re pumping it. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Uh, world’s number one Halloween costume store.

Yeah, exactly. You know what? I am gonna be this for Halloween this year, dude. I’m actually looking at is gonna be a plague doctor. Terrifying. But it’s one of the It’s one of the ones. How do you say that in Spanish? No idea. You say you know how to say plague doctor plague. How do you say plague in Spanish? Or like sickness in Spanish? Plague plague doctor. Uh, plague. Plague or like sickness or like pandemic plag? I don’t know. Was it the platform diploma? Exactly. Anyway, I live my life by that phrase. Diploma. So there you go. If you ever now you know uh about the plague doctor and where it came from.

The plague though did not simply vanish after 1350. It recurred in waves over the following centuries, sometimes decimating regions all over again. Um then there was another great plague of London in 1665, the Marseilles outbreak of 1720. However, none match the scope and mortality of the black death. Uh over time, it’s it’s it was also one of the first instances of the use of quarantine. Don’t talk. Don’t [bleep] stay inside. Yeah. You This is a house of sickness and you guys Well, they would take all the sick people and just lock them up. There you go. Yeah. Um, some ports did a isolation of 40-day quarantine.

Holy [bleep] And 40-day quarantine. There’s no Netflix and chill. Like you’re like catching up on your stories. It’s No, it’s like you’re just looking at other sick people for 40 days straight [bleep] grain. Thought two weeks was bad back in. Remember the 14 days, dude. The 14. Oh my god. Did you ever ever have to travel and sit in the hotel? No. I know some people had to do that. I know. I know. I know a couple people had to do that, but I thank God I never had to do that. I mean, I had to quarantine from like other I just stayed in my house.

Yeah. And I was like, “Sorry, honey. Don’t come in.” Yeah. Watch what the [bleep] I want. Watching Breaking Bad in sequence again. Yeah. So, fast forward, we’re to the 15th and 16th century. Um, uh, they were, this was when Columbus and other Europeans arrived in the Americas. Uh there’s a great book um it’s the people’s history of the United States and it’s outrageous about what Columbus and his crew did. Columbus was like was to the indigenous people. Yeah. He was notori he was he was like a [bleep] super villain like like you imagine like the worst piece of [bleep] you could imagine. Like it was him and I think it’s like [bleep] glorified.

I don’t know like I I don’t know why really for you is Frank Sinatra then. Oh, it’s it’s [bleep] Columbus. Yeah. [bleep] Columbus with a gun. Yeah. Yeah. Like [bleep] Well, [bleep] Sinatra, buddy. But [bleep] Columbus. I always change I always skip when a song comes on. Oh, no. I just can’t get past it. I can’t get past I’ll never I’ll never let it I’ll never let it go. We had a a great uh a girl in our Patreon. She made [bleep] Sinatra stickers. Oh, and they’re great. They’re the Marilyn Monro like the Marilyn Kiss and [bleep] Satra. Go back and listen to our Marilyn Monroe episode.

You’ll understand the [bleep] Sinatra with a gun. You know what? I wish we had more of those. We actually ran out of those. Dude, I want I want one for I want one for my [bleep] house. Yeah, we got to get some more. Listen, uh who was it? Was it It was Tiffany. Was it Tiffany? Yeah, Tiffany. Tiffany. Tiffany, I’m going to need more of those. Tiffany also alerted us to a thing we missed in the news. I’m super upset about. Oh, yeah. But hey, shout out Tiffany. You’re the best. Love you. That’s right. Is it Tiffany? It’s Tiffany. Tiffany. It’s Tiffany. Tiffany. Yeah, Tiffany.

It’s Tiffany. I I [bleep] I’m going to go to Discord now. I swear to [bleep] God, it’s Tiffany. I swear if I’m wrong, I’m going to feel like an [bleep] It’s Tiffany. I was right. It’s Tiffany. Tiffany. I [bleep] knew it. Yeah. Okay. I love my listeners. So, when Christopher Columbus and other Europeans arrived in Americas, they carried with them not only guns and steel and trade, but germs. Black plague. Yeah. The indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere had been separated by a body of water from the old world for over 10,000 years. Yeah. It’s like you you don’t you cannot even be like a cold to them.

You get those germs that’s like lethal to you. So they had no immunity from anything in there was no intermingling. Yeah. They they didn’t know what smallox, measles, influenza, typhus, bubanic plague. They knew nothing about any of that. They were like living their best life. Like, dude, look at all this [bleep] maze we got over here, baby. We’re killing the game. Like, we’re dominating. So, across the Americas, this epidemic became called the Great Dying. And uh if you really study it, it’s really bad. The Great Dying. The Great Dying. And the impact became evident almost immediately around 1492, which I don’t know if you know when Columbus landed, but 1491 1492.

1491 and 3/4. Yeah. On the island of present day Haiti and Dominican Republic, uh Columbus established a colony. Native Tino uh populations were ravaged by smallpox and other illnesses. Uh further European explorers then like pushed out into the continents. Diseases often preceded uh or accompanied with them, sometimes spreading faster than the Europeans themselves. And it’s super hard to know, but it’s an estimated 50 to 90% of the indigenous population died just from those diseases in one century. Oh my god. So, it’s not like not only were they not only were they like raping and pillaging, but then like the people that survived just passed it to everybody else and they just [bleep] kill like, oh my god, man.

The white man. Jesus. It’s not even the [bleep] Spanish man. Mexicans. He’s a Spanish man. and that he was from Spain. Like Christopher Columbus was like they portray him as like some blonde hair, blue-eyed bro, homie was [bleep] Spanish as [bleep] Like he was aistador. They get like Matthew McConnA to play him or something. I know. It’s so rainbow. What they should they should get like I think he spoke English. They should get uh like Javier Bardm to play [bleep] Christopher Columbus. In the Caribbean islands, which were among the first points of contact, the toll was near total. Apparently 99% of the population died. Jesus Christ.

Damn. That’s how do they even How do they even estimate that? All of them. Everyone 100%. The overall story of the Aztecs provides an illustration of this. When the Spanish concistador Hernand Cortez arrived in Mexico in 1519, the Aztec Empire was at its height, ruling millions of people dominating. Initially, Cortez made heads off. Initially he entered the Aztec capital of uh uh and this is a very famous one. I should know this tenos. Wait, what? Jorge, help me out. Capital. It’s a It’s the capital city of the Aztecs. Uh tenital. God damn it. Yeah, that’s a hard one. Yeah. Cortez managed to enter the capital of the Aztecs, but was expelled in July 1520 with heavy losses.

The Aztecs in fact defeated the Spaniards in the battle of the night of sorrows and then and they just died later. Yeah. However, the Spanish retreat did not end the war because an unseen ally marched ahead of them, also known as smallox, also known as like their disease. Yeah. Uh smallox arrived supposedly on one of his slaves and began to tear through the Aztec population. By September 1520, as the Spaniards regrouped, small pox was raging in the capital. The Aztecs had never experienced this disease. It was spread like wildfire, and even the emperor himself died of small pox a few months after getting into power.

Oh, damn. Oh, I see. So, the Aztec armies and civilizations were debilitated by illness and fear. And according to some accounts, the entire empire first succumbed to smallpox and then to the Spaniards. Meaning like they were they were so decimated a fight with when you’re completely dead. You’re like Yes. I mean I can’t even mow the lawn when I’m sick. I know. Let alone protect smallox. Yeah. Protect your fort. So by 1521 uh the capital fell. Uh, one Spanish observer noted bodies piled in the streets and the survivors were too feeble to even bury them. Smallox had accomplished what steel and gunpower alone might not have and it brought down the entire empire.

The Incas, that’s what I was trying to say. The Incas built that they they were ruling in Peru. Yeah. Uh, a similar tragedy played out in Peru. Small pox carried over the land, swept through in the 1520s, killed the empire, many of the royal family, and it it they weren’t invaded. It triggered a civil war. Oh, yeah. It’s just such chaos, and it’s like the royal family’s dead. There’s no power. It’s a power grab, baby. There you go. You You said they weren’t invaded. So, yeah, they weren’t necessarily invaded. They they they got it the illness and then they started dying and then and then they’re all weak and then there was civil war for power.

Okay. That you’re talking about. Yeah. Um across North America as well, diseases cleared the path for European colonization. In the early 1600s, English settlers in New England, also known as Plymouth, uh they also received an illness and up to 90% of the local population had perished, leaving behind empty villages and the struggle for colonizing America. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like they would send over a hundred colonists and then 90 of them would die and you’ be like, I can’t I can’t build this settlement like this sucks. Yeah. I’m gonna go marry that Indian woman and then you know what I mean like super fit she’s got like bison and [bleep] like this sounds great.

Yeah. So again uh by 1650 scholars estimate somewhere and this is a very wide range I know but between 50% and 90% of the entire population of America’s died from illness. Yeah. How do they estimate? How can you estimate? know because you don’t know and we get into this a lot too with CO which is that there’s there’s the statistic it’s so hard to know some will say X died from CO but then it’s like also I think that the problem was the doctors and like how they were there was no standardized way of doing it and then a lot of people were doing like [bleep] like shady [bleep] for money and kickbacks like they weren’t it’s like oh well no they had all these other they had all these other like pre-existing conditions So you say it’s a pre-existing condition, but it’s really like this thing that is doing it.

So it’s like they they had the pre-existing condition, but then they say it’s so like it got classified as CO. That’s what I’m saying. It’s like then it’s like Yeah, that’s what I that Sorry, reverse what I said. Yeah. They’re saying, “Oh, it was CO, but like was it CO or was it this or was it who know?” Like I don’t [bleep] know. Like Yeah. And again at this time uh it’s like medicine had advanced a bit since the black death but this was America. So there there were only like you know colonies andor you know Indian tribes and stuff like that. So there was again no solution to this problem right and people just died essentially.

Yeah. Um fast forward now we’re in the 1900s. Oh [bleep] Have you ever heard of the Spanish flu? Yeah, I didn’t. I’ve definitely heard of that. Uh, in the final year of World War I, as if the carnage of trench warfare wasn’t enough, can you imagine trench warfare? Sorry. [bleep] It is. My buddy has a trench gun. Really? Which was like one of the guns they used to use in like World War I. It’s like it’s it’s like a very small 22 barrel. So you have a 22 and then you have a small like it’s like an eight gauge shotgun shell and that’s literally it.

And it’s like you can just hold like this little handheld. Yeah. Hold it with one hand and you have like a big pistol. But no, but it’s only two you have you have a one you have a 22 shot and you have you have the AK shot. That’s it. Okay. Because you’re you’re going in a TR and like it’s you got you got two shots to kill the [bleep] guy in there and if not you’re [bleep] Like you die. It’s super weird. Um, I couldn’t imagine I couldn’t do that. The sanitary conditions in those trenches were just outrageous. Like almost too hard to even believe like, you know, when you really study it and when you um uh what’s that name?

Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History is really Oh, yeah. a good one if you wanted to listen to it. I forget what the name of the episode was, but it’s a good 13 hours on World War I. It’s a big war. It’s a big, but he goes into like the specifics of what life was like in the trench. Oh, it was terrible. You know, and there’s just it’s just outrageous. Like you’re just in mud, blood, lack of food, lack of water, lack of everything. Every, you know what I mean? Like just you got the Oh, yeah. The not including the fear. I don’t know why this reminds me of like the story of the unkillable soldier.

I like cuz I I just I always think about this because there are people that are like this that exist. Yeah. And it was a dude he was uh I think he was a British or he was some European guy. Mhm. And he was in three wars. World War I, another war, and like World War II. Wow. He literally got shot. He’s like the perfect age. No, dude. Yeah. He got shot in the head, shot in the face, shot. He’s he’s been shot like I think eight or nine times like literally twice in the head. Jesus. And then he had to um like he was they they had to amputate like one of his [bleep] fingers or something and like the doctor wouldn’t do it so he literally ripped his finger off and like all this [bleep] He like been stabbed like 20 times like all this crazy but he never he never died.

And then he got interviewed and then he was like when interviewed about I’m butchering the [bleep] out of the story but when interviewed about it he was like oh I really enjoyed the war. Like he [bleep] loved it dude. Like the guy just [bleep] like it was an adventure or something. He [bleep] loved it. Like homie [bleep] the only way that you could survive some [bleep] like that. Homie got you get shot in the head one time and you survive. I’m like I’m never touching a gun again. I’m like [bleep] out of here. I’m never being homie loved it. So, I’m saying I don’t know why, but it makes me think about like, yeah, there at one out of every like 10 million psychos is like this guy who’s like, “Fuck yeah, get me in that trench.

Can’t wait to get in that trench.” Uh, so humanity at that time was struck by a new and fearsome plague. It was an influenza pandemic that would kill more people than the war itself. Oh, wow. Uh the so-called Spanish flu of 1918 to20 was the first truly global pandemic of the modern age and it was facilitated by steamships, railroads and massive troop movements and was caused by a viral strain of H1N1 influenza A virus. Oh, so the bird flu despite the nickname Spanish flu bird flu despite the nickname Spanish flu, the the pandemic did not originate in Spain. Uh, Spain got the moniker simply because it was as a neutral country in World War I.

It’s press freely reported on the flu where the other wartime countries didn’t because it was wartime. Does that make sense a little bit? Yeah. H1N1 is is uh swine flu. Yeah, there you go. Not the bird flu. Swine flu. Sorry. But this was H1N1 and then you said something else. Influenza A. Okay. Well, H1N1 it’s it’s an it’s an influenza strain. So, it’s all Yeah. Like even like CO is is an influenza strain. It’s the flu and we’re just kind of going over the like some of these names changed over time. Okay. You know. Yeah. No, but this is interesting because it’s like at the beginning of co when you know it came like we were like did it come from China?

Did it not Wuhan? Whatever. Right. So then we started calling it the China virus. Yes. Well, we as in as in Trump or car, as my wife would say, who’s we man? Exactly. Um, but did you you guys caught that? Like, it wasn’t called It wasn’t It wasn’t from Spain. They were They were talking about it. Yeah. So, just imagine how [bleep] up that is. You’re like, “Why are you calling it us?” Your build as the You know what I mean? It’s your flu. But on this one, the true origin is still debated. Theories include Kansas, theories include France, Britain, or even China. But wherever it started, by the spring of 1918, it began spreading among military camps.

Kansas is very specific. I know. I mean, like, how would it start there? Like in the fields? Mhm. Corn. Yeah. Literally, that’s all I like I I’ve drove through Kansas. Like there’s not much going on. Like there’s really not much there. Within months, this new influenza circled the globe. It struck in three main waves. Relatively mild in the spring of 1918, a second highly lethal wave in the autumn of 1918, and a third wave in the beginning of 1919. No corner of the world was spared. It infected people on remote islands in the Pacific all the way to the Arctic. And some some say about one quarter of the world’s population was infected.

Okay. But about some say I mean this again these are super hard numbers right to like go is this real or not. Yeah it’s it’s all speculative opinion. Some say 50 million people died but some figures put it at 100 million. Jesus. I believe that one a little more cuz that’s like closer to you know our time now that I think it would be a little bit easier to estimate. I don’t know. Yeah. Like right like there’s like statistics and there’s people who are looking for that information. So in um in about nine months it killed as much as the black plague. Granted there’s more people.

Way more people. Way more people. Way more people. Like back then there was like 450 million people. Yeah. And like that like that’s America only. Yeah. Now but in in raw numbers it was the deadliest one of the deadliest events in human history. But mortality rate was this roughly 3%. Wow. as opposed to back in the day when it was when they when it killed 100 million it was like 70% mortality rate. That’s right. Curious to see when we get to CO what that percent was. I know, right? I don’t. You’re tuned into Auto Intelligence live from Auto Trader where data, tools, and your preferences sync to make your car shopping smooth.

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I mean what is like well they were well do you think they were healthier than we are? No. No. No. Uh, everybody’s now obese. That’s true. America. That’s I was saying actually maybe maybe you’re on I don’t know. Yeah. I mean, but uh life expectancy has gone up still. I know. Which is bizarre. Yeah. Meaning we have like medicine’s way better, right? But I but the thing is like I I my biggest part my biggest problem with medicine I was talking to my my cousin with this about this the other day is that medicine like I think at the root of medicine it’s to prevent bad things from happening but now all medicine preventative yeah preventative thing like you know because you’re supposed to you know you’re supposed to treating now it’s just like treating it’s all treatment now like the medicine industry has flipped from a preventative aspect to a pure purely treatment focus And I think that’s why it got criminalized because it’s like if we can make people sick Yeah.

then we’re infinitely we’re make infinite. I know I know we are at a problem situation where our the life expectancy has slowed down. Yeah. Meaning like like the last 10 years it’s actually gone down for men compared to like the growth over the 70s 80s 90s you know what I mean of of the age. I think it’s 76 for men and 78 for women. Well, you know what? You know what the the bigger you know what the bigger problem is? The replacement. Yeah. We’re not we’re not making enough human beings to replace like we’re going to see massive massive massive drops in population. And China did you see the false reports in in China?

Dude, they’re [bleep] Apparently they they hate it. China is [bleep] Yeah. Like they’re actually [bleep] And it’s not for anything other than stupid [bleep] rules. You remember that? The youth in Asia. Remember they were like you have to get a permit. Yeah. You can get a you have to get a permit to have the second and it’s like a super hard permit. It’s like just but now but now they’re desperate. They’re it’s they can’t they’re like the curve is down. And there’s only Japan too, right? It’s it’s everywhere. Yeah, it’s everywhere. France, Japan, Italy, all of the only ones Muslims. Muslims are making [bleep] eight kids.

It’s an average of like eight. The [bleep] just like dumping babies out. It’s crazy. But every almost every other countries like America America is at like 1 point like the a these are averages. The America I think is at like 1.4 or 1.5 cuz it’s [bleep] expensive as [bleep] Well, the replace the replacement rate I think is like it’s like two and a quarter or something. Two like 2.5 or 2 and we’re at 1.4. Yeah. It’s like it’s it may not seem like a big deal, but like civilization will die. Yeah. Like as a whole and everyone’s we’re overpop populated. We’re over [bleep] populated. Like no, we’re not.

We got to make here comes the [bleep] robots and the AI. I know. We got to make it like I don’t know. We got to benefit the the the parent situation. Make it more appealing to have kids. Yeah, I know. It’s super tough. Now it’s like you have to grind and slave away and you’re like I can’t afford you know how expensive it is to [bleep] send I’m like dude I’m begging I can’t wait for my kids fifth birthday so I get [bleep] $600. I cannot wait. I’m like like about to forge your documents. So like this summer is just ending and my wife and I we both have full-time jobs and we can’t what do the kids can’t do anything dur What do we do with the kids during the summer?

Oh yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like there’s the there’s we have full-time jobs. We don’t get it off. No. And they have like three weeks off. Yes. It’s like crazy. Anyways, it’s just I was just going to say one more thing about uh I forgot you said something replacements. Yeah. But before that about Oh, the stat statistics of um the mortality rate. Mortality rate and stuff like that or life expect. Yeah. Maybe about that. I was just going to say we we have more population now than back then too. So it could be like a whole statistical thing about that. Yeah, that’s true.

Or also then there’s less child birth death meaning Oh yes yes and that really will skew that will massively number so meaning our medicine is really good at pregnancies compared yeah and they also like you know all like the complications they didn’t know about like you know if if a baby needs to be turned or like all these other things like back in the hizzy. So yeah, like I think that’s a huge and we also have IVF in vitro or whatever. That’s all the people that you know couldn’t have children before or Yeah. Yeah. Like there’s complications or there’s issues or medication whatever medicine again technology.

Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So um anyway, so this this influenza infected younger people um and society struggled to cope with it. World War I had already stretched resources thin. You were literally It was the Great War. It was called the Great War because we didn’t expect a World War II coming up. No, they called it the wrong thing. Yeah. This is the last war. Yeah, exactly. Hospitals overflowed with patients coughing blood. Makeshift wards were set up in schools, auditoriums. In cities like Philly, the toll was horrific. In late 1918, Philadelphia officials ignored warnings and proceeded with a massive wartime parade in order to sell in order to sell bonds because they needed the money to build to do the war.

200,000 people jammed the streets of Philly. Dude, oh my god. Within 3 days, every hospital bed in the city was filled. Dude, Phillyy’s always breaking the [bleep] rules every time. Within within 7 days, 45,000 of the citizens were sick. Bodies piled up faster than they could be buried. Philadelphia ran out of coffins and had to dig mass graves in trenches in order to inter. And me and the boys have been to Philly a couple times. Couple times. I love the place actually. Dude, me too. Uh by the time I’d say I love the place. I mean I I like it for like the day that we were there.

But the day if you’re there for a day, it’s legit. If you’re there for longer than we missed out on Oldtown. We in two old town, dude. I love do another trip then. Say get a Tundra. Sell that Tacoma. Get a Tundra. Wait a second. And I hate the Eagles, by the way. Yeah, [bleep] the Eagles. Go Bengals. So, [bleep] Cowboys, too. [bleep] you. In about 6 weeks, 13,000 people died in Philly just from the illness. Jes. Uh, similar scenes played out globally in India. uh estimated 15 million people died, which is 5% of the population. Western Samoa, 20% of the population died after a carrier ship showed up introducing the virus.

God damn it. Yeah. Public health responses varied. Many cities imposed quarantines. They imposed ban on public gathering. They also Sounds familiar. Really weird. They also implemented something called mask mandates. Ah, what? What is that? It’s like the never experienced that. It’s like the playbook. Yeah, it’s the They’ve been running the same playbook for years. In San Francisco, for example, they infamously required people to wear gauze masks in public and they spawned the first anti-mask league association. The initial Karens. Well, I mean, you know, San Francisco was a great place for rebellion and for you know what I mean like like bouting uh fighting against the system etc.

So they created the anti-mask league because they were like this is my rights. I want to create any league. Can we just create a league? Like I just want to like you know Yeah. the conspiracy league. I just want a league that’s like a league. You just want to be part of a league. I do like not a fantas football league. Like like a league. Yeah. Schools and theaters closed. Some areas essential services closed like mail. Wow. Garbage pickup. Oh no, that is so essential. Holy [bleep] This was an era without a coordinated global health authority. The WHO did not exist yet. You know the world health, you know.

Yeah. World health. And on top of it, there was a war. There was a war going on at the same time. So this is insanity. Ironically, once the armistice was signed on November 11th, 1918, Armesist is like a cease. It’s like a ceasefire. It’s like a ceasefire. We’re putting our arms down. Like we’re putting our arm arms as in weapons. Like armistice. Yeah. Great definition. Um but ironically, there was a victory parade. God damn it, you [bleep] idiot. Uh, additionally, so crowds were gathering to celebrate and on top of it, millions of troops came back from overseas back into their backland. Yeah, exactly. So, which sucks cuz like you see like those World War II like [bleep] things and like kissing their [bleep] girls and like dude, can you imagine coming back Victoria?

Like I’d want a parade. Like I I like I I get it. I actually get it. It makes sense. Like I get it. needs something to celebrate. God damn it. I mean, some call it the forgotten pandemic because it was in the shadow of the war. Well, obviously everything was in the shadow. The whole [bleep] the universe is in this [bleep] shadow of the war, but we can’t put aside the influence that it did have on the outcome of the war andor what was going on during that time. Some analysts even argue it influenced winning the war by weakening German troops through the illness. Um, it even actually got President Woodro Wilson during the peace talks and he got through it, but some say he was weakened by it and that’s what led to his death later.

Yeah. Interesting. Anyways, importantly, in 1918, it taught scientists and doctors valuable lessons that would later inform responses to other pandemics and would lead to the creation of the World Health Organization and the pandemic playbook that we just talked about. Yes. Yes. Pretty scripted. It’s like legit. It’s like straight. They were like, uh, see uh the pamphlet B for how to [bleep] deal with this. That’s right. Now there were other uh pandemics or epidemics etc. Um one of which and then we’ll just touch on we did do an episode on it and it’s the HIV and AIDS. Now that is considered a slow pandemic because it’s only blood or sexually transmitted.

Yes. It’s not transmitted via breathing via like the air. That’s right. So that was in itself it can be called a pandemic though because of the millions of people who died from that spread. Oh 100%. Yeah. Legitimately spread. Yeah, exactly. Uh, and we went over that in the other episode. Uh, some say 40 million people have died from HIV and AIDS. Yeah. And it’s weird now that’s like that you don’t even hear about anymore. No, that’s because it’s very manageable. Like they actually have they have medication now that’s like like look at [bleep] like another autoimmune type drug you take for it. Yeah. I mean I don’t know the exact They have drugs now.

Now granted you need insurance like Yeah. They’re expensive. You cannot You’re not a cash patient. No, I think what they do is like they they prevent HIV from becoming AIDS. Yeah, there you go. And it keeps it keeps it dormant. So you can’t don’t sell on AIDS. And so so effective though if you got HIV and you started taking these after x amount of time, it wouldn’t even show up. It wouldn’t be registered. It wouldn’t be registered. Yeah. That’s how good they are. Yeah. That’s it’s [bleep] good. Yeah. So, it’s kind of like you get it, you get tested, you go, you get it, and you’re like, get the the drugs.

Yeah. Yeah. Save your life. Frankly, literally. Yeah. There you go. Uh, and then there were there were some more. Um, but throughout the 20th century, each outbreak, big or small, added to the knowledge and or lack of knowledge of how to combat these things. Um we then started developing vaccines, antibiotics, antiviral drugs and the uh communication system of earth became so much better. Yes. And uh able to track things differently. Um so things changed, you know, and uh and then there’s a couple that I wanted to go over that are called near misses. M these are these are diseases and or pandemics that we successfully squashed, okay, that could have been [bleep] nightmares, right?

Okay. In the early 2000s, there’s something called the bird flu. Yes. Oh my god. Bird flu, swine flu, [bleep] aven flu. They were everything. So, in 2005, global news was dominated by a potential pandemic on the horizon. Not a human virus yet, but it was circulating via birds. Via pigeon. Yes. And it was called the H5N1 Avenon influenza. This strain of flu was first recognized in humans in 97. It infected 18 people in Hong Kong, killed six of them. I mean, what is going on? What is going on? I know. It’s the [bleep] playbook. They’re like, starts here every time. It’s just like now honestly though is it just why is is it because of the population so big?

Why isn’t it happening in India? Maybe maybe in India there’s not like documenting it then it’s like [bleep] it. Yeah. The Hong Kong outbreak so it infected originally 18 people. Six of those died. Okay. That’s a high mortality rate. That’s right. So that’s why it was scary. That’s 33%. That’s 33. Scary as [bleep] The Hong Kong outbreak was alarming enough that authorities took drastic steps in Hong Kong and they called the entire chicken population. That’s a bad Didn’t they do that here too? I think I remember that. Oh, the chickens are affected. Kill all the chickens. Kill them. Burn the chickens down. Uh, we don’t even know how many chickens died, but it’s in the millions.

Oh, yeah. They just decimated them. Just wipe them out. I mean, we need chickens. Yeah. Apparently though, it’s succeeded victory because the that that virus or that that in that that strain went away for a few years. It just disappeared. Yeah. Uh but it resurfaced in East Asia infecting their chickens. God back in 2005 still. Yeah. But like a year or two later, so like in 2006, you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyways, so anyways, it like they squash it and and they just decimated like they took drastic actions. Yes. Which is, you know, okay, there you go. But I don’t know if the answer was that they did kill the the chickens or it just like died out by itself.

Exactly. Exactly. You don’t we don’t But obviously they’re like, well, it’s because of what we did. Yeah. It’s like it’s effective. Yeah. It’s effect 100% effective. 99.9% effective. It’s like Clorox. Exactly. So for humans though the H5N1 was extremely hard to catch. It does not transmit easily from person to person. Almost all all human cases came from direct contact with the chickens in the markets. So you have to go and like fondle a chicken romance a chicken. You’re like exactly inappropriately touching chicken. Yeah. And every single one is affected. You’re like you’re you’re a chicken [bleep] The license registration chicken [bleep] So, but from 2003 to 2023, there’s only confirmed 976 cases.

Wow. That’s not a lot. It’s not a lot. But 50% mortality. That’s [bleep] So, you get it. And it’s Well, when you’re getting [bleep] that animals get, that’s why, for example, like rabies, there’s no once you get rabies, like you’re dead. Yeah. Like you there’s no Or it’s when it’s past a certain point. Yeah. You don’t you can’t there’s nothing they can do literally. They’re like, “I’m sorry.” And then what they do is they quarantine you from the rest of the human and you just die. Yeah. I was actually right before I was on our backpacking trip like a couple weeks ago. I was researching like cuz there’s a lot of We saw a rattlesnake.

I was like, “What do I do?” Like don’t try to pet it. No. And but apparently you have ours. Yeah. You have ours or your So, but think about it. You’re six. You’re 16 miles deep into the mountain. No cell service. So I get bit. I’m like, Sean, get me. Get me to the ranger station. Piss on him. Get me to the ranger station. Piss on it. But you have hours similar to the rabbi thing where you have x amount of time and then if you don’t get it, you’re [bleep] Yeah, that’s right. I would have been like, Sean, put me on your back. Carry me down the mountain.

Carry me down. I’ like I just did legs like three days ago, bro. I can’t help you. uh governments and the health organizations responded to the threat with unprecedented preparedness. So some would validate and applaud them for the efforts in squashing this but some later on we’ll see that maybe there’s a bit of extreme Yes. Yeah. And so as we approach present day, that’s a topic of this conversation, which is did they go overboard or did they do extreme because they’re scared of it? Yeah. Well, that’s [bleep] scary. 50% 30 to 50% mortality. Yeah. I think the biggest thing is which we will get into this obviously is is gain of function.

M and if and if you don’t know what gain of function means I mean I I’ll give you the exact precise definition so I don’t give you like my shitty you know like high school education version of gain of function. Gain of function is so it’s research that involves genetically modifying an organism to enhance or create new biological functions such as increased pathogenicity transmissibility or host range. So just to like layman’s terms that you’re literally modifying a thing to make it more you’re making it more transmissible. You’re making something easier to [bleep] pass and you’re making you’re literally and the the primary use of this is to understand potential pandemic threats and develop countermeasures like vaccines.

But by making something more deadly and more transmissible, you’re you’re helping. Yeah. Got So that’s why this all this this whole the lynch pin on this entire thing is gain of function research. You’re like let me take this thing that can’t that can’t be passed to humans. Okay, let’s [bleep] make it get passed to humans and let’s make it more deadly so we can research how we can make [bleep] better. So you So you go, “Oh, we’re going to get test subjects and we’re going to infect them with it.” No. No. take a thing like you know it’s like like look at the name gain a function you’re trying to gain a function out of it so you like okay you know weaponizing it exactly well let’s take this example let’s say like this mocking bird has a specific type of flu that it gets okay and so we’re like okay so it can’t be passed to us it can only be passed to other mocking birds yeah they’re like okay well how about we modify it so that it can be passed to other things maybe we make it be passed to uh blue jays and they’re like, “Oh, okay.

Let’s make it like more deadly. Okay, let’s make it more pathogenic.” So, like pathogenic, like a pathogen, you know, you’re making it more infective. Like, okay, it’s going to infect more things and it’s going to be able to be transmitted to other entities. So, like let’s make it worse so that we can study it and see how we can like fix it in the future. So like there the the logic behind it which is insane logic. It’s stupid logic is that okay if we can make something super aggressive and attack humans how do we combat that thing that then attacks humans that we’re not expecting.

Yeah. But you realize you’re making something that can then attack humans. You’re creating something that can now get into humans without a solution for it. There’s no solution, right? Just so you can study to try to figure out a solution. Are they trying to find the benefits? Like what would be the good side of it? That the good side is that like okay, if it’s in a in a completely controlled situation, 100% under control, it’s like okay, cool. You’re you’re preemptively trying to figure out solutions to something that could cause a problem. But in But the thing is, you’re causing a problem and then solving that problem that you’re causing.

This reminds me of the movie you’re creating something that’s not genetically possible. This reminds me of the movie Deep Blue Sea. You ever see this? Oh, well they created the sharks. No. So they were like, “Okay, here’s here’s the check it out.” So they found that they never get a certain cancer. They never get Alzheimer’s, I think. Yeah, it was something stupid like that. So they were like, but they need to extract some liquid out of their brain or something. Yeah, something out of their brain. But they don’t have enough. So they’re like, make them bigger. So they’re like, in order to save millions of lives through this treatment, we’re going to have to enhance the shark’s brain.

Yeah. Okay. Make it smart as [bleep] Make it smart as [bleep] But then of course everything goes crazy and the sharks eat everybody and they’re smart. Sharks are smart as [bleep] They’re like playing chess and [bleep] I know. They’re like 4D chess in it. Like already the best [bleep] baddest predator there is. Is this a stam movie? I don’t know. Yeah. I No, I’m pretty sure. No, I think Samuel Jackson’s in it for sure. Samuel Jackson. All right, one second. This is a class. This is beautiful cinema. 1999 film. Ooh, it’s not it’s not Stathithm. It’s It’s Thomas Jane. Oh, Thomas Jane. He was hot.

Amazing, dude. Thank you for smoking. LL Cool J. Yeah. Oh, not Ice Cube. LL Cool Jane. Michael Rapaort. [bleep] yeah. Good movie, dude. What a classic. But and then the the girl, the main girl, dude, Stellan Scarsgard is in it, too. The greatest Swedish actor of all time. Now, I’m not s I don’t want to give you a spoiler, but the bad person in the movie fights to the end to to go, I’m trying to help people. It’s Stellin. Still Scarsgard is a bad guy. Yeah. I’m trying to help people by doing this. Yeah, it went wrong. So that is that kind of it is but it’s like but because they’re trying to get some benefit from it in order to I know we just did a stupid but no no but here’s but here’s the thing is like are they yeah I see you know there’s think of the trillions of dollars that we spend on on healthcare trillions.

Yeah. You know, that’s then that’s my that’s my biggest point about everything is like that’s the biggest my biggest issue with the healthare system is that they don’t like it’s bad for business if you get better, right? It’s bad, right? Like well, you know how much like they they don’t they need you [bleep] they need you have they diabetes. Hell yeah. They’re like, “Oh, oh yes, we’re going to [bleep] you know how much [bleep] we’re going to kick back from this insulin production for the rest of your [bleep] life just to keep you like [bleep] even.” Yeah, it’s it’s the it’s the system’s [bleep] It’s super [bleep] But anyways, I I have that’s close to home because my families are my my grandma’s diabetic and and it’s decades of of what you’re talking about.

But look at the numbers in and look at the like the numbers are only increasing. While while you had said while you and it’s a fact that our the the modern medicine has advanced like tfold 20fold. Yeah. Why are there why are there more sick people? Yeah. Why? Like if we’ve advanced so much, why are we like why are more people [bleep] up? And so now the money see that like I said [bleep] you know 40 minutes ago is that the health care system used to be preventative. Now it’s it’s just it’s just treat you. We’ll just treat you and we’ll treat you for the rest of your [bleep] life.

Yeah. Anyways, sorry. All right. No. know that makes sense. This is good points. It’s good points. Um, anyways, remember that gain of function. Yeah. So, some some say that the whole bird flu pandemic of the 2000s were I and this is maybe a bad word, but a success that they handled it, squashed it. Yeah. People died. So, it’s like that’s not a success, but they squashed it, prevented more deaths from happening. Yeah. So, some would say that we have advanced enough to to uh fix uh civilization busting illnesses. Yes. Yeah. Exactly 100%. There you go. There’s a bunch of other ones that we don’t necessarily need to go into, but there’s SARS.

You remember SARS? Oh my god. And SARS is a big thing in Asia. It’s [bleep] Why is it always Asia? Jesus Christ. Uh there’s also remember Zika. Oh my god. The mosquitoes, right? Uh there’s, you know, there’s one in the Middle East called the MS, Middle East respiratory syndrome. I didn’t I heard about that. Yeah. Super deadly 35% fatality. That was 2012 and it emerged from camels in Saudi Arabia. Damn it. Yeah. Anyways, you get it. And then there’s uh Ebola, you know, from Africa, you know. Anyways, these are just Yeah. Just giving you a little different things, highlights. Yeah. And then we fast forward to 2019.

And I say 2019 because that’s actually when it started. That is when it began. That is the the the impet the impetus. Yeah. In December of 2019, doctors in a place called Wuhan, a major city in central China, began noticing unusual cases of severe pneumonia. Many patients were linked to the Hunan seafood wholesale market, a bustling market selling fish and also live animals. They didn’t respond to standard flu treatment and tests for known viruses came up negative. So these guys are getting sick and they’re like what? What the [bleep] is it? What is this? Yes, exactly. Concern grew that this might be something new. On December 31st, New Year’s Eve, 2019, Chinese authorities alerted the World Health Organization.

Yeah. And they alerted them to a cluster of pneumonia cases with unknown causes in Wuhan. Yeah. Yeah. Within a week, by January 7th, 2020, Chinese scientists had identified the culprit, a novel corona virus, initially dubbed 2019 NCOV, part of the same family of viruses as SARS and MS. M they swiftly sequenced its genome and in a landmark of open scientific collaboration public the genetic sequence online January 11th 2020. So this is early. You and I had not heard about this yet. Oh no. January 11th, 2020. I had heard about it in January. Really? Yeah. I was traveling. I was in Quebec in but my wife is a nurse and so you know kind of things were already starting to travel the inside like at the old the old the old the water ke the water cooler the water cooler girls [Laughter] [bleep] room five room size blue lighting this enabled though on January 11th this enabled laboratories worldwide to start developing diagnostic tests immediately at First, the outbreak seemed local.

Through early January, Wuhan health officials reported dozens of cases and a few deaths, but they maintained that there was no clear evidence of sustained humanto human transmission. Some officials suggested the virus might be contained to animal to human jumps only at marketplaces. However, as days passed, indications of person-toperson spread surfaced. Family members of those infected at the market started getting sick. Health care workers who were helping them started getting sick. Uh people in coal mines were getting sick. Not even related to the market were getting sick. So So but but this was all being covered up too. Oh, for sure. Or Yeah, I remember I remember the news.

It was the anti-conspiracy would be that not necessarily covered up, but in Wuhan, meaning like, you know, we don’t really care about some place that we’ve never a little bit later, but I remember that there was the the uh Chinese, you know, hospitals and they were being overrun, but it wasn’t really being reported. They’re suppressing. Well, I mean, it is also we’re talking about China here. Exactly. If Xi Jang doesn’t want it out, it ain’t going out. It’s not going out. Yeah. No one’s talking about everything’s [bleep] fine. We’re [bleep] fine. Yeah. On January 14th, so this is 3 days later. That’s it. Who noted there was evidence of a possible human transmission out of Wuhan?

Mhm. No, no other details. Possible. Then January 20th, China’s National Health Commission confirmed definitively that this new corona virus did transmit between humans and infections were appearing in multiple cities within China. And at that point, the old genie was out of the bottle. Yeah. There were already people traveling back in on airplanes like we spoke about. And and obviously it’s just total coincidence that the Wuhan Institute of Urology was doing gain of function research on [bleep] for for this exact thing. Just totally non related. Now, here’s what’s crazy, and I did learn this. Um, woo one’s big. Okay. I didn’t I I always thought of like a village little tiny little lab.

Like that’s like like two people work there. Exactly. 11 million people live in Wuhan. That’s massive. That’s huge. Just to give it just to give you perspective like in the in the Tampa samp clear water area combined it’s 4 million people. That’s right. So it’s huge. That’s two and a half almost two and a half times. Yes. Exactly. I was I was actually very shocked. And probably like a third of the land mass. Chinese authorities on January 23rd, 2020 announced full lockdown. Wuhan flights, trains, buses out of the cities halted, highways blocked. Residents were essentially confined to their homes. In the following days, the lockdown expanded to encompass the entire province.

Holy [bleep] Which is tens of millions of people. And their goal obviously was to freeze the outbreak in place. Didn’t work. This was the biggest quarantine ever seen in modern times. While extraordinary, it was too late. By the time Wuhan sealed off, cases cases had already started springing up outside of China. And this is that we move now into February. [bleep] So the the virus had silently traveled via international passengers. On January 13th, Thailand reported the first case. A tourist from Wuhan. Who’s tour? Who’s touring? Who’s a tourist in Wuhan? Anyways, I have one week off this year. Where are we going, man? Wuhan. What’s there?

Nothing. [bleep] it. We’re going. One love. Wuhan. love. Yeah. On January 13, so Thailand reported it. Um, uh, Japan and South Korea soon followed. Um, on January 20th, it was the first case in America and it was Washington, Washington State. He had visited Wuhan and came back. Um, on January 30th, the WHO declared a public health emergency of international concern. That’s the highest level they have. uh and confirmed that it’s humanto human transmission. Now it’s like a movie, you know, we’ve reached that point. At that point, there were around 8,000 reported cases and 170 deaths out of 8,000. The world was now on notice. Now, in February, this is when we started to hear about it.

Some sort of weird Yeah. sickness going on. You know what I mean? I was uh in Canada. I was on vacation in Quebec and we were hearing like weird things. Remember that vacation? Yeah. And it was like weird, you know what I mean? Like international like people were stopping international travel basically at that point. Did you think that you were maybe going to get stuck over there or not? I thought it was kind of like we’re in Canada too. This is basically America’s like we’re so close. Yeah. I love Canada. Anyways, um so for a brief window in February of 2020, it looked like perhaps the worst would be averted.

So there was a bit of a lull and it started to be promoted that there were heroic efforts in China with their lockdown of that province and of heroic. Yes. Yeah. Heroic. Yeah. Who actually sent out a press release praising China’s aggressive response and it would later backfire because it found to be the source of a planetwide, you know, pandemic. You guys are doing great. you feeling the game over there. And then in February, South Korea saw the massive outbreak in South Korea in religious sex. Within days, thousands were infected. Iran uh experienced a rapid spread in the holy city. Uh and it soon infected the entire country.

Uh yeah. I mean, the the multiples it’s it’s Oh, yeah. Crazy, right? Yeah. It’s just like the seven years of separation kind of theory like plays into that. It’s like, okay, if I see Jorge and then Jorge sees all these people, those people see those. It just like multiplies like infinity. Yeah, exactly. And then strangely, and this is when people around the world started to get a little scared, is that uh northern Italy Yeah. had an outbreak. That’s when when when like it was when Italy happened. That’s when like [bleep] was like Z was like, “Okay, now shit’s happening.” That’s right. And because they also couldn’t find the source.

So in Italy Yeah. So in Italy they couldn’t find Oh yeah, this dude traveled on vac. Yeah. So it literally they were like, “Oh my god, this is just spreading now.” Spreading, you know, around the planet. Um the virus was circulating in the community undetected until patients started showing up ill. Northern Italy’s Lombardo and Venito regions became the site of Europe’s first major COVID 19 disaster. Hospitals began filling to capacity. Doctors reported wartime type conditions, ventilators in short supply and morgs overflowing. And then the world saw the images of convoys, uh, army trucks, uh, uh, massive supplies of coffins. It became a frenzy of fear and craziness.

Yeah. Massive. And from that point, the dominoes fell quickly. And despite being an island with time to prepare, Italy went on lockdown March 9th, 2020. Italy. Yeah. The rest of Europe followed suit over the next week or two. In the United States, the initial cases, a majority were on the West Coast. They were thought to be contained, but by late February, evidence of the community spread in in Seattle, and a major outbreak then emerged in New York City. Oh, yeah. And at that point, it became evident that CO 19 was a planetwide pandemic. It just hadn’t been detected yet due to limited testing in many countries early on.

And so on March 11th, 2020, the World Health Organization officially characterized it as a worldwide pandemic. And that’s where we’re going to stop on part one. Um, world as the at, you know, we’re at March 11th, 2020. That’s the we’re at CO 19. This is happening. It’s happening. It’s happening. So, there you go. Uh hope you guys enjoyed a bit of like the history of it, learning what uh humanity has been through uh with pandemics, illnesses, etc. So that way we can better understand what we all went through in 2020. Yeah. Uh so in the next episode we’re going to talk about lockdowns, forced vaccinations, uh conspiracy theorists, uh or theories of of who did what.

Was it a man-made disease? Uh was it a was it thing? Yeah. Was it a major thing to see? Uh there’s a major theory going around that it was orchestrated in order to see how the public would react to being forced to get vaccinated. Exactly. Well, it’s a it’s the same concept of like Project Blue Beam type thing. It’s like use an outside thing outside of like the the normal power structure. Yeah. And then you implement rules that are uncomfortable, right? And if the people agree, you’re like, “Okay, cool.” And then it’s like same thing with like 9/11. It’s like, oh, the thing happens like Patriot Act, if you look at the Patriot Act, it’s quite wild.

It’s like if you are deemed a potential terrorist by the US government, you have negative rights. No rights. No. No. All your constitutional rights disappear. You have none. The constitution doesn’t protect you anymore. Mhm. Like, but I’m saying it’s it’s a it’s a thing like that where it’s like an outside thing causes and obviously people, you know, your your gut your knee-jerk reaction is like, “Yeah, I want it to stop.” Like, “I don’t want to die. I don’t want my mom to die.” Especially when you know the history or you look into the history of the pandemics and you’re like, “Yeah, like I don’t want to die.” But and and then on the other side of it is I fully understand I like there was a point where I I was in fear.

Oh, dude. Sure. I not like the whole time, but like there was a couple weeks where I was like I wasn’t in fear for me. I was in fear for like my my mom has like really bad asthma, but I was I was afraid for her. Yeah. Do you remember they put up a [bleep] death toll website? Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, I remember that. God damn it. That was [bleep] terrifying. And it was like in red. Ah, it was terrifying. Anyways, so we’re going to get into all of that. Um, and there you go. Any last words? Um, join the Patreon. Yeah, you know what?

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