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And then we got a we got a little Kiwi coming in here, Zack F. Hey, brother. Efron. No, Zack F. That’s not his. No, not Efron. [clears throat] And and Zack Efron’s not not from New Zealand. [laughter] Anyways, thanks, brother. Appreciate you. And uh yeah, so let’s dive right in. So if you wanted to support our Patreon, go to patreon.com/theconspiracy podcast. And if you do it now, you you might be just in time for the Fantasy Football League. It we’re we’re going to get started soon, so you better hurry your ass up. Yeah, that’s right. Okay, Benghazi. So Benghazi, you guys know a lot about this?

A little bit. A little bit. I know. Yeah, I know. I know it. Yeah. All right. I was I’m not like a CIA analyst level [laughter] knowledge, but yeah. Well, on the night of September 11th, 2012, in a city on the coast of North Africa, most Americans couldn’t have found on a map, Libya, a small diplomatic compound behind a 9- ft wall caught fire. By sunrise of that, four Americans were dead. A United States ambassador also died. and a story had begun that would consume Washington for four more years. It would spawn nine official investigations. It would expose a private email server and argue arguably help decide a presidential election that really it had nothing to do with.

It literally had nothing to do with [laughter] absolutely nothing. But it’s more the scandal and of course because it was, you know, Yeah. This is the story of the attack on the US special mission compound and the nearby CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya. It’s about a diplomat who believed in showing up in dangerous places even when Washington wouldn’t give him the security like the the security team to do it safely. Yeah. It’s about a government that told the public one version of events on Sunday morning television while its own intelligence agencies were telling each other something different behind closed doors. You got to love it.

It’s almost like the most basic of intelligence agencies saying one thing and the truth is another thing. And guess it really was the start of us fully I mean I don’t want to say the start but like it was definitely not the start a major point of us not trusting Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean I think the real start. Yeah. Definitely not the start. Far from the start my man. Yeah. But don’t you kind of believe that we’re a little bit in the golden age of conspiracies? Oh 100%. Yeah. where now it’s like it used to be it’s like being you know believing that there was nefarious things happening you know that the shadow government was like you were like a pariah like you’re so dumb you’re so you’re so unlearned no you’re the crazy person yeah you’re you’re a psycho now it’s like you believe the truth everyone’s like you were dumb when do you think it turned when I think it I think like Trump had a lot to do with it to be honest when that whole Trump won meaning like his first Yeah.

His first um um time in office. Yeah. And leading up to that, that’s when it started like before that QAnon and like I don’t know like a whole I I can’t even remember right now, but the other conspiracies that popped up and and then he’s just shining light on the corruption. Yeah. Since then, I would say it really, this is my opinion and we Sean and I talked about it a little like a little prelame uh that it started when 9/11 happened and then we went after Iraq. Yeah. We went to Afghanistan and Iraq. Yeah. Sure. But but it was like it didn’t make sense that we were going after the degree that it is like nowadays.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it just for me it was like what the [bleep] are we doing in Iraq compared to trying to find Bin Laden. And I and know I think that for me personally it was like that. I was like something’s not right. And then when they killed Bin Laden and then they threw his body overboard the the [bleep] nimmits where the [bleep] the ship was. I was like but why? Yeah. And they were like no it was like accordance with his religious beliefs. I’m like that’s so he was in the desert. Like what? [laughter] Like first of all what? We’re not going to have like confirmation [laughter] of like death.

They’re going to toss them off a [bleep] boat. Also, what about the 2,000 people who died at 9/11? Yeah. Like, what about them? Yeah. Where’s their [bleep] sea Viking king burial? Like, what the [bleep] [bleep] That’s when I was like, “This is [bleep] bullshit.” Yeah. I was in like 8th grade and I was like, “This is [bleep] I’m done.” So, more than a decade later, honest, serious people, including some who were there that night, still disagree about what happened in the dark. There were nine investigations. Most of the big questions have answers. Supposedly, was it terrorism or was it a spontaneous protest? Dangerously inadequate security.

It was answered, well, supposedly answered by the government’s own review. And you know, we’ve done a few episodes now, so we can say we’ve reviewed a lot of the official stories. So like, you know, Warren Commission, uh, MLK review, all those different things. Um, but two or three questions were never fully closed. And unlike a lot of what we cover on this show, these aren’t actually fringe theories. They’re disputes between the named people who were there and they argue and arguing with the official reports about what happened that night. You know what I mean? So we’re not getting like w we’re not wildly, you know, we’re trying to take the data here.

Yeah. Exactly. So to understand why four Americans ended up dead in Benghazi, you have to go back about 18 months to February of 2011. And to a man named Muamar Gaddafi. Mhm. Who had ruled Libya for over four decades in one of the strangest and most brutal dictatorships of the 20th century. It was complete with an all female bodyguard core in a political philosophy he had written himself in a little green paperback he handed out like scripture. All female bodyguard core. You know why? His haram right there. And I was looking into him a bit. He did a lot for Libya as far as improving a third world country, but he was a dictator.

Yeah. He was a piece of [bleep] right? So it was like a weird he did some right things, but for the most part it was about him. Yeah. Yeah. Typically when you’re a dictator, it’s [laughter] like it’s the typical dictator. It’s it’s like the classic playbook. It’s a you it’s it’s about you. Everything’s really about you. Yeah. Like so when the Arab Spring reached Libya on February 15th in 2011, escalating into what people there called the day of rage, Gaddafi responded the way he always had. Tanks, air strikes on his own people. Yeah, he did so much good for them. [bleep] bomb them. [laughter] The UN Security Council authorized a no-fly zone and within days a NATOled coalition, including the US, was flying combat missions to protect Libyan civilians and functionally help the rebels win.

By October 20th, 2011, Gaddafi was dead. Dragged bleeding out of a drainage pipe near his hometown of Certe. I think I’m saying that wrong. It’s fine. It’s fine. and killed in the street by the fighters who found him. His final hours captured on shaky cell phone video that circulated the world within hours. And Libya, a country with almost no functioning civic institutions after 42 years of Gaddafa making sure of that, was suddenly a power vacuum. It had more guns per capita than almost any country on Earth. in estimates on how many surfaceto-air missiles alone sat in Gaddafi’s looted armories run as high as 20,000. Jesus damn.

And that’s per the director of national intelligence. Uh that’s his quote at Congress was that’s how many weapons he had instead of one dictator now. So Libya now had dozens of armed militia roaming streets still scarred from the fighting. Some loosely loyal to the new government that was forming in Tripoli. It’s another It’s like another city state. It’s a location. Yeah. Some hardline Islamist, some just local strong men who would help themselves to an arsenal. It’s basically like if you had a group of homies and then you stumble upon a war room. Yeah. You’re like, and then all of a sudden now you’re a little bit of an Yeah.

Now little own army. Yeah. Like, bro, we got I we I don’t know what we’re going to use them on, but I have literally ballistic missiles. [laughter] Yeah. Benghazi, the country’s second largest city and birthplace of the actual uprising, was arguably the most volatile place in the country. Into that vacuum walked a career American diplomat who believed more than most anyone else in his government that the United States needed to be there anyway. John Christopher Stevens who was that diplomat was born in 1960 in California studied at Berkeley. I mean law degree also what an all-American name John he’s got three hyperamerican names John Christopher Stevens it’s like three first names.

Yeah. He worked briefly as a trade attorney and then joined the foreign service in 91 after a stint in the Peace Corps in Morocco. Over the next two decades, he built a career around the Arabic speaking world, postings in Jerusalem, Cairo, uh, Damascus, etc. By the time Libya erupted in 2011, he was one of the state’s genuine regional veterans, fluent in Arabic, and by every account genuinely respected on the ground rather than just tolerated. Sick. So when the rebellion against Gaddafi began, Stevens didn’t fly into Tripoli because there was no functioning diplomatic apparatus left to fly into and the airports just weren’t safe. He sailed into Benghazi.

What? This guy’s not [bleep] around. [laughter] Yeah. He literally came in on a Greek cargo ship and he became the US government’s special representative to the rebel leadership, spending months building relationships with the men who would go on to run the new Libya, becoming by most accounts one of the only American officials the revolutionaries trusted. So when Gaddafi fell and the US reopened formal relations, Stevens was the obvious choice for ambassador, presenting his credentials in June of 2012, 3 months before the attacks, running the mission from Tripoli while maintaining a special mission compound back in Benghazi, the very city where he’d first landed by boat the year before.

Calling it a consulate, which the press often did, is actually inaccurate. A consulate is a permanent post with a defined legal status and baseline security requirements. The Benghazi compound was never that. It was a temporary leased facility without the fortified perimeter and with no marine detachment. The real consulate would have Oh, there would be there would be there would be posted there would be posted marine like battalion there. Yeah. Stevens knew this better than anyone. a June cable titled plainly Libya’s fragile security deteriorates. So they knew they knew. Yeah. It laid out a summer of escalating violence in his own words. He was in Benghazi on September 11th anyway.

Partly to open a new American cultural center the next day and partly because everyone who knew him describes a man who didn’t believe in running Libya policy from behind a wall. I mean, I believe in hiding behind the wall [laughter] 100%. I’d be running. Can I run the via Zoom? Here’s where the first genuinely damning part of the story lives, and it isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s in the government’s own internal review. Okay. Throughout the summer of 2012, security at the Benghazi compound had been getting worse, not better. On April 6th, an IED went off at the compound’s outer wall. Oh [bleep] [bleep] On May 22nd, the Benghazi Red Cross was hit with a rocket propelled grenade.

On June 6th, an IED blew a hole in the perimeter wall large enough for 40 men to walk through side by side. Okay, so can we like What the [laughter] Get like some like some support out there. What the [bleep] 5 days later, an RPG was fired at the British ambassador’s convoy. Close enough that the UK shut its own consulate down and pulled its own people out. But we’re like, “No, [bleep] it. Stay.” Yeah. UK was out. You You guys are good. Sure, man. I’m out. [laughter] All right, then. All right. Steven’s June cable cataloged all of it, plus the detail that an Al Qaeda flag had been spotted flying openly over a building in the town.

But it’s like meanwhile it’s like it’s totally like above board to be like flying [bleep] sketch [bleep] like in the streets of America. [bleep] all good baby. [bleep] You get in trouble just for flying the flag around here. American flag. Real quick. Did you see like where literally England made it illegal to fly the English flag during during in England? What? During the World Cup? Really? I swear to you. I didn’t see that. actual news or what was the theory behind it or what was that’s literally dude literally it’s like they would [bleep] fine you get fined for flying an English flag in England you also can’t really say [bleep] on social media oh dude they’ll [bleep] they hunt you down dude no they come at like 2 a.m.

2 a.m. They kick your [bleep] door. Like they knock on the door. They’re like, “You’re going to jail.” You said this person sucks and you hate them. Like hate speech. At least they don’t have the mental police like in Canada. Oh yeah. It’s like Yeah, you’ll get literally held without like without due process. It’s so [bleep] up. Anyways, sorry. Security officers on the ground requested help. A July cable asked for a minimum of 13 additional personnel to maintain defense. Those requests were largely denied or left unfulfilled. A decision the State Department’s own later investigation attributed to management failures within the Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Not any single person.

And notably, of course not. Notably in the investigation, also the Secretary of State at the time known as Hillary Clinton. Mhm. Won’t Hillary meaning it wasn’t found that she was personally liable or personally of course it’s just we’ll get on that later. It’s just like it’s just like you know when you’re when you’re a mob boss it’s like well I didn’t I mean I didn’t do anything. It was my underlings. What are you talking about? It was found later in the investigation that Hillary Clinton was never found to personally have denied any Benghazi request. Just FYI, she didn’t personally deny anything. She just she third third party denied.

So on September 11th, 2012, 11 years to the day after the attacks that started the war on terror, the compound’s actual defense was a small diplomatic security detail. A handful of unarmed contracted guards and a Libyan militia and the February 17th martyr’s brigade. And so you’ll hear a lot of the February 17th and that’s who those are. It’s a like a brigade of of people who were martyrs on that date of rebellion. Okay. So the it’s important to note that at that time though the loyalty was a little bit and we’ll find out later. Their loyalty was not steady fast. Yeah. It was not Yeah.

Yeah. It was kind of very loose. [laughter] I loosen them. At [snorts] around 9:40 that evening, gunfire and an explosion tore through the main gate. So, you got to just imagine and uh there’s a couple movies and documentaries that you should maybe like follow up on. And it shows that there are two uh locations of this story. There’s the main compound and then there is where the ambassador is in his own smaller kind of like home chateau. Exactly. I thought that was the main one. Well, that was the first attack. Okay. Yeah. But the main one that had the [clears throat] more concentration of Americans was was the actual more fortified compound and they were roughly a mile or so away.

Yeah. Yeah. to where you could if you stood on the roof, you could kind of see Mhm. what was happening a little bit. Okay. Yeah. So, at 9:42, dozens of armed men, estimates run as high as 150, poured through the gate and scaled the walls within minutes. The February 17th militia guards that we had posted there, dipped, fled immediately, like [bleep] squal. Now, and I’m not even I’m not even like super mad at these guys. Like, you know, like kind of understandable. I mean, granted, they they were called like the martyr team. Like, yeah, you got [snorts] to live up to the name, boys. [laughter] Also, yeah.

Um, but now an interesting point is that this was not Washington would say 5 days later that it was a spontaneous mob that stumbled into violence. Okay. There’s as opposed to an organized Yeah. Well, okay, real quick. It’s not like you don’t have like a spontaneous mob that’s like, “Oh, yeah, we got mob.” Like, who’s got it? Then they have explosives on them and weapons. It doesn’t seem like a regular like spontaneous event. Also, if you wanted to put together a mob within the next 3 hours, how many how many guys could you come up with? I’d have us us [laughter] three and like maybe one more if I remember couple like it’s actually it’s a little [laughter] it’s a little twice.

It’s a little late. Eric won’t actually show up. He’s like we got to drive separately. It’s smart. We got to have multiple getaway vehicles. Let’s drive home. I can just imagine George Washington knocking on my door. [laughter] Toms. He’s like, “Well, let’s talk about this, guys. I got to poop. I got to just give me a second. Let’s talk about this. Are you sure we want to do this?” Yeah. Uh, so these men moved with purpose. Rocket propelled grenades, assault rifles, and within minutes, cans of diesel fueled carried in like they planned it. Okay. Yeah. Spontaneous. Yeah, this is spontaneous. [laughter] Around 9:50, so 8 to 10 minutes later, Stevens got Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks on the phone in Tripoli.

Greg, we’re under attack, he said. And then the line went dead. Diplomatic security agent Scott Wickland moved Stevens and an IT officer Shawn Smith into the compound’s fortified safe area inside Villa C. Sealed behind a heavy barred gate designed to keep attackers out even after they had gotten into the building. It’s one of those full scale Yeah, it’s like a safe room. There you go. Panic room. It worked exactly as designed. The attackers never breached that gate. So what they did instead is they set the building on fire. Oh [bleep] It’s not meant to keep Pete out. Dousing it with the diesel that they had brought.

So they they this it seemed like they maybe had a little inside insider for info. Yeah. I mean, you don’t bring like however many cans of diesel fuel. Yeah. know what you’re going to burn it down. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, but it’s a mob. Like, it’s just they’re they’re to create chaos. Like, they’re going to burn the whole [bleep] down. They’re going to kill everybody. I I think Sean, I need you to bring 17 cans of diesel. Meet me there in 42 minutes. This is spontaneous. [laughter] Insane. It just seems like a fake story or I mean the the official one and we we joke, you know what I mean?

It seems like a movie script. It seems like a movie script. Like they were like, “How do we write a compelling movie?” Yeah. The safe area had a barred escape window built for precisely this scenario. But the smoke filled the room faster than anyone could move through it. Yeah. And diesel burns thick. Yeah. It’s like black. Oh yeah. Yeah. Wickland got himself out into his smoke choked interior courtyard, barely able to breathe. And when he turned back for Stevens and Smith, who were supposed to be following him, they weren’t behind. Oh, [bleep] So, he went back in once more. Oh, [bleep] He went back in through the smoke.

I mean, it’s kind of like his job, you know what I mean? Like, you’re protecting. Oh, he was the Okay. Okay. And you’re like, I got to go back in. So he goes back in, but again, like you said, the smoke was so thick that he couldn’t see his hands a foot in front of him. Oh, it’s black. It’s like thick black smoke. Yeah. So he couldn’t find either man. Uh he eventually climbed to the roof and radioed the CIA annex that was a mile away. Why didn’t he do that like out the beginning? Yeah. Like straight out. I think because he was trying to get them out like get out of the smoke.

I You know what I mean? get out. I mean, well, they went into the same call, right? No, you’re saying when they started knowing that they’re under attack, hey, we’re under attack. We I should probably radio the CIA outpost. Yeah. You know, you could do that on the run. Okay. So, your home is Let’s just say a home. Your home is being invaded. Well, because it was they handled the danger first, but it wasn’t designed for them to be the protectors. Like, they weren’t the the security that they needed. That’s why he he called back uh Triple E, you know, and he’s like, “We’re under attack.

Send and send.” That’s what I’m saying. Like the dude the dude did that, but then like then the guy decides later after the fact to hit the CIA outpost. That would have been my first thing like, “Yo, we’re under attack. Send.” And then like the guy Yeah. But then the also like the line went dead, so maybe that’s why he couldn’t call him at first. No, but the homie hit the radio. I get what he’s saying though. Oh, the radio. The security guy had the radio. He radioed in. Also, what we do know is that the attack started at 9:40. He radios at like [bleep] the the ambassador called at 9:50 Triple E.

Damn. Why would you wake 10? So what Sean’s saying is in those 10 minutes the guard or the the security agent had 10 minutes. Yeah. To call the annex. I mean I think that that should be like that should be like standard operating procedure is like yeah or is this like the government? This is the report from the government. They were like, “Who help [laughter] me, please?” They’re like, “I don’t hear anything. Do you hear anything?” Also, we have to give them a credit. There’s 10 minutes is not a lot of time when you’re scrambling chaos when you’re being attacked and you’re you’re the guy into the safe room.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I’ll give him a little on that. You know, this remind you seen that reel when it’s like the you’re like the German Coast Guard. He’s like, “We’re sinking. We’re sinking.” He’s like, “No, what are you thinking about?” Like, [laughter] “We’re we’re sinking.” Okay. Okay. And then the next part is pretty much the most disputed part of the story. So he climbed the roof and radioed the CIA annex a mile away and a team from the annex including former Navy Seal Tyrone Woods began moving and like gearing up to go and head towards the compound. Exactly how quickly is one of the two most disputed facts in this entire case and we are going to come back to it but this is the story line from the House Intelligence Committee.

So the House Intelligence Committee later calculated the team was out the door at 21 minutes after hearing about it. Okay. It’s quite some time. Yeah, for sure. Yes. And the contractors, the former uh SEALs and the former whatever, they said it took longer and that they were told to wait. Oh [bleep] And you got to I mean I’m going to take those dude’s word for it. Yeah. Over the count intelligence committee. And also I mean of all the guys it still takes you 21 minutes to prep. You would think so. That’s the official version is 21 minutes, but the the the actual people who there who were there said it was more like 40 minutes.

I mean, I I get like you have to get kided out for sure, but that just seems like a long time. It does seem like a long time. It seems like you should be like drilled and ready. Like 10 minutes and we’re out the door, boys. These guys are pros. They’re pros. Like Yeah. It’s not like us. Yeah. Like I got to get my socks on, [laughter] you know? Like also another point is it’s not 4 in the morning. No, it’s like it’s 9:00 at night. These guys have been up. These guys have been up for 4 hours. Meaning 9:00 at night. I don’t None of us are asleep.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. So 10 minutes max. That’s what I’m saying. It’s like 10 minutes to gear up or whatever. And look, you’re putting it Okay. Like I get it. You have to like get up, but it’s not like you have to like load the You’re not loading mags and [bleep] Like those are already they’re already ready. The gun’s already You go to the cage. You get all your [bleep] Okay. You got to put your put your vest on. You got to get all the mags. Get all your I’m I’m thinking especially for bros. It’s got to be 10 minutes. 10 minutes max. Yeah. So, the House Intelligence Committee says 21 minutes.

Uh but again, the witnesses or the people who are there say it was longer and then they were informed to wait. Okay. So, we all agree it’s too long. response 21 minutes. Oh, it’s it’s even if it’s what the intelligence committee says. Yeah. It’s too long. Yeah. And then also like to Sean’s point, he’s going to take the word of the former Navy Seals. Yeah. The guy on [laughter] the ground. The guy who was literally there. How did he make that up? He responded. It’s like it’s like literally it’s like if you had an eyewitness here, we should probably record this. No, cuz we moved on.

We are recording. Oh, so it’s it’s it’s literally like just shooting the [bleep] Yeah, I thought this first. It’s literally like if you had an eyewitness, it’s like, hey, like I was right there when this happened and they’re like, well that’s great, but we have this intelligence committee who’s going to talk about it for 2 months and they said that that didn’t happen. I’d be like, what the [bleep] Yeah. And it’s not just any any old bum off the street. This is a This is one of the highest trained human beings like in our armed forces. Like obviously there’s like we don’t know if he was like Delta or something like that, but he’s still a Navy Seal.

It’s like that in itself is like any Navy Seal, any Army Ranger. Like these guys are like these guys are top tier. Yeah. And then within that you have like the your tier one operators who are like you know Delta and [bleep] all those like crazy psychos who are unreal. So, we’re going to we’re going to touch on that a little bit later, more in the questions and theories stuff, right? Uh, when the team and their Libyan allies reached the compound, they fought their way in and searched the burning villa room by room, choking on the same smoke that they had already claimed that already was burning the building.

They they recovered Sean Smith’s body fairly quickly. He was the IT guy, IT officer. Stevens, though, the ambassador was nowhere to be found. Not because he’d escaped, because in the smoke and dark can see [bleep] Yeah. The ambassador of the United States to Libya had effectively vanished from a burning building surrounded by his own government’s personnel. And for hours later, nobody, including the men on the ground, including the Pentagon, knew whether he was alive or not. No [bleep] It’s also you’re being covered in like that much with diesel. You’re getting covered in soot. It’s like Yeah. You’re going to be like [bleep] everything’s black. [snorts] It was ordinary Libyans, people outside the American security perimeter who eventually found him.

They pulled him unconscious through that same barred window, not realizing at first who he was, and rushed him by car to Benghazi Medical Center. Doctors worked on him for roughly 45 minutes. It didn’t matter. He died of smoke inhalation. The first American ambassador killed in the line of duty since 1979. Jesus. Wow. But also point of note is during this whole battle the team didn’t know. No. Yeah. They didn’t know where he was. They couldn’t find him. They were trying. I mean Yeah. Yeah. So around 11:30, the surviving Americans were evacuated to the CIA annex itself along with reinforcement reinforcements that eventually flew in from Tripoli.

Among them, a second former SEAL, Glen Doherty. Uh, and for a few hours in the dark and the exhaustion, it looked like it was over. Like they kind of quelled the [bleep] Exactly. rebellion. Mhm. It wasn’t. At around 500 a.m. on September 12th, mortar rounds began landing on the annex roof with accuracy. Actually, several shells walking directly onto the position where Woods and Doherty stood defending the building in the pre-dawn dark and both were killed instantly. Oh my god. The 11-minute barrage ended around 5:26 a.m. and two other Americans were wounded. By 6:30 a.m., as the sun was finally coming up over the city, annex personnel and Tripoli reinforcements were evacuated to the airport under armed Libyan escort and flown out.

Four Americans were dead across roughly 13 hours of fighting. Ambassador Stevens, uh, IT officer Shawn Smith, and security CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty. The precision of that final mortar strike has fueled years of argument about how organized the attacking force really was. Yeah. Dude, you don’t just like, oh boy, I happen to have some mortars in the back. No. And especially like firing a mortar is like it’s like a science. It’s like you’re doing a science experiment. How far away do you is generally like mortar distance? Do you guys know? Depends on like the the size like the caliber of the explosive used.

But it could anywhere from 70 m to 7,000 m. Oh wow. So like Yeah. You could be like So you could be close but you could you could also be very far. You could you could be like you know what 7 7,000 m is is 21 21,000 ft. Mhm. That’s four 4 and a half miles. Yeah. like you’re just ripping those [bleep] from like a mountain top. But like I said, it depends on the size. So it’ have to be a larger mortar to go obviously farther. That could be a higher stronger propulsion. Yeah. [snorts] [clears throat] Okay. So the precision of that final mortar strike has fueled years of argument about how organized the attack really was.

Investigators attributed it to experienced local fighters and noted the annex’s location. though it was supposed to be covert. They knew [laughter] exactly where it was like instantly. Like I mean, but people say in the city it wasn’t exactly a secret. No. Yeah. Cuz cuz the other thing like another thing with mortars is like typically you’re you need like a couple shots to kind of get dialed in. But like if they knew where the building was, they would be able to have time to like really like dial in the angles and the blah and like to cuz if you’re like Yeah. If you’re just randomly, oh, we’re in battle and they’re like, oh, these guys are running to this building.

Dial into it. It It seems like it would be difficult on the fly to just rip some mortars off and instantly hit a building in the middle of a city. It seems eye. Yeah. It seems a little It seems a little difficult, especially we’re in we’re in Libya. Like this isn’t like Yeah. Texas where like you probably could do that. But to this day, exactly who walked those rounds onto that roof and and who killed those Americans has never definitively been answered. [snorts] Probably never will be, unfortunately. No. Within two hours of the attack, a State Department email had already gone to the White House sit room and to the FBI, noting that Ansar al-Ashi had claimed responsibility on social media.

I just I I I always hate this [bleep] responsibility claim. It was me. It this always seems like such a dog and pony show. It’s like, are you Was it really you or are you just like taking advantage of like an opportune situation to like be a big dick? I wonder what the accuracy is of people who claim they did stuff to to actually if it was true. Meaning like how many people are lying about that? [clears throat] You know, I don’t know. Back to the 911 thing. Did was it really Bin Laden? They want some followers. They got to claim it. I know. On social media, he’s like, I got to go on Twitter quickly.

[laughter] It was me. On September 16th, UN Ambassador Susan Rice appeared on five Sunday shows delivering the same message. The best assessment was that the attack grew spontaneously out of a protest over an anti-Islam YouTube video, similar to one that had hit the US embassy in Cairo the same day. Wait, so they’re saying because of a YouTube video they they’re it was a spontaneous grouping of a the protest like just like we said at the beginning like it was to I’m a mob to attack the US embassy because of a [bleep] YouTube video and to actually like a anti-Islam type of video and to actually take one over on SEALs like meaning like these guys are trained.

I I understand, but I’m like I don’t know. But it just seems crazy to like some of the 300 at the time of the 300 million Americans, there was one YouTube video we didn’t like. Let’s let’s attack the US embassy. That seems a little insane. Like what? So additional uh according to every investigation that followed, there was not a single protest outside of the Benghazi compound. Exactly. It was planned. It was it was a coordinated assault. It sounds like damage control PR. Let me go on every Sunday. Blame YouTube. It was because of YouTube. Yeah. How that line ended up in Rice’s mouth is a story in itself.

ABC News obtained emails showing the CIA’s draft talking points and it went through 12 revisions before Rice saw them. Oh my god. Even with references to al Qaeda and prior warnings progressively stripped out of it. Meaning they didn’t say in the the talking points that everybody’s been warned. They asked for reinforcements. They asked for, you know, all these protection. They didn’t say that. It was so abrupt. No one had any clue. Like it was they weren’t prepared. They were all asleep at 9:00 p.m. Deputy CIA PR campaign. Deputy CIA director Mike Moral says he personally did much of the editing. Well, I would not be claiming that.

[laughter] That’s a Whoa. Uh September 14th, there was an email from Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodess. It laid out a goal for her media rounds. It underscored that the unrest was rooted in that YouTube video, not an American policy failure. I’m But also, I’m sorry. It’s like, let’s say we’re like a couple homies hanging out at the you know, what do they do in Libya? We’re having a little barbecue in in the dunes. Yeah. Watching little watching little watching little lamb kebab. [laughter] Get the kebabs rolling. Watching the FIFA. Hell yeah. We’re having some We’re having some Turkish coffees. We’re having a great time.

Yeah. And we’re like, let’s hit the YouTube up. I mean, are they searching for anti? Like it’s not like that’s going to be on their feed because then it spreads out and then we get enraged. No, no, no, no. My my point is like if the feed is going to be based on their search history, [laughter] they had to be searching for anti-Islam [bleep] It’s not just going to be like for you on your for you pages. Anti-Islam. Maybe one guy stumbled upon it, sent it to all the homies, then they’re all enraged. I don’t know. I I just I just think it’s I just think it’s odd that like in an in an Islamic state, they’re going to get just randomly see this anti-Isl like you’re going to you got to be looking for you have to be searching for that [bleep] It’s not just going to get it’s not going to be like a for you.

Yeah. Yeah. On my like Islamic IP address. It’s not going to be like here you go brother some like hate [bleep] [bleep] against your against your culture. Although I don’t search for busty blondes and that sure comes up on my [laughter] it’s it’s it’s the cookies. The cookies the cookies know. They know what you want. Incognito mode doesn’t protect you. [laughter] Bathwater [bleep] Sweeny delete. Delete. The White House maintains its only substantiative edit was correcting consulate to diplomatic facility. Whatever the [bleep] that whatever like was that like word soup? [laughter] The [bleep] does that mean? My only substantive correlation to the parabola [laughter] to start saying [bleep] words.

Rice has consistently said she reported exactly what the unclassified point said with no intent to mislead anybody. Of course, she’s just doing See, this is literally just like the PR game. I Well, it wasn’t me. It wasn’t me. And the investigative committee concluded the error came from analysts working with incomplete information and it wasn’t a political fabrication or conspiracy. Cool. They’re like, “We made an error, but trust us, everything is accurate, [clears throat] even though we’re constantly making errors.” But the video explanation survived. every draft, even as terrorism references were deleted around it and the administration kept repeating it after contrary evidence had reached Washington.

Whether or not that’s badly managed intelligence failure or election season situation, it’s the argument of this story. This also seems like that was and you know, hear me out because I’m digging a little deep here, but this seems like they’re already trying to like do this like censorship thing. It’s because of YouTube. We need to we need to control what these people are putting on YouTube. Here here’s some more info on on that video. By the way, I found this. So, the film was made by a man named Nula Basseli. Okay. He’s Wait, is this an American or is this Well, he’s Egyptian. Okay, cool.

So, awesome. He’s a Christian living in California who worked under the fake name Sam Basil and at first try to pass the whole thing off as a work of an Israeli American to hide who he was. Uh, it was about 14 minute long video. Um, and then it got dubbed into Arabic and blew up in the area. He was like, “Oh, [bleep] the Quran.” Or like what was he what was he doing? I don’t know. It didn’t like it didn’t say what. Yeah, it was scrubbed from like YouTube pulled it down. Yeah, see anything about it. Here we go. This violates our uh this violates our community policies.

Now, if you don’t know too, like we’ll just back, you know, back up a little bit, which is that year was the election. Yeah, that was a 2012 election of Barack Obama. Obama. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was incoming Barack Obama. Oh, that was the No, that was his second term. Sorry. Yeah, it was his um it was his second term. Yeah, that’s right. Of which Hillary was the Secretary of State, correct? For Obama. Yes. Yeah. So, he was already in office and he was going for his second term. I think he was up against I could be wrong, but uh what was that? Mitt Mitt Romney Romney and um yeah, I think he was the Mitt Romney.

Yeah. Anyways, so it was him and Joe Biden, right? That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, weird [bleep] always happens election years, dude. Every time there’s always some scam. There’s always something going on. That’s not a coincidence. No, because you know what it is. What they do? They create a situation and they handle the situation. See how well I handle this? I [bleep] handled the [bleep] out of this. Vote me in again. Trust me. It’s all [bleep] [bleep] All smoking mirrors. It is. All right. You can trust me with your safety. Yeah. If the talking points fight is the most argued over question, the standown order is the most explosive.

And unlike a lot of what ends up on this show, both sides here are named on the record and were actually present. Three CIA contractors at the annex that night. Chris Peronto, Mark Gist, and John Tegan told their account in the 2014 book 13 hours. And that later became the basis of the Michael Bay movie 13 Hours of Yeah. Benghazi. Great movie. It’s it’s a spectacular movie. So their claim, the CIA base chief called by the pseudo name Bob Glass [laughter] ordered them to wait rather than immediately move toward the burning compound a mile away. A delay they estimate around 20 minutes. So like you were saying about 45 minutes real in real in reality.

Mhm. The counter case comes from the man they’re describing, Bob. Speaking I I didn’t [laughter] tell I had wait. Yeah. Speaking anonymously, of course. So, we just That’s literally all we know is his name is Bob. Yeah. Or on the on the pseudonym Bob. He anonymously told the Washington Post and he said flatly, “There never was a standown order. At no time did I ever second guess that the team would depart. That doesn’t mean any like of course they’re not going to second guess that they would depart. The guys were ready to go. There was no second guess. What? Isn’t that nonsequiter? Like they’re talking there was no standown order.

There was I didn’t Why did they wait? They didn’t wait. They were told dude those guys they’re not going to like back down low. Waited out. I’m sorry. If you if you are a a contractor the CIA with the sole purpose of like killing enemies, you’re you’re not hesitant. There’s no hesitation. My assumption, too, are that that they’re patriotic. Yeah. No, those guys, they don’t give a [bleep] And so, but but they also know Americans are being attacked a mile away. They want to go. They’re ready to go. That’s what I’m saying. Yeah. And at least in the movie, they already had been to the compound before, remember?

Like they identify like all the security. Yeah. And they even said, “Hey, you know, if you’re attacked Yeah. We’re just a mile away.” Yeah. We’re a mile away and you are not secure, dude. Okay. So, like, you know, at least in the movie. Yeah. [laughter] If you don’t if you like personally don’t like know people who are in the military and all this stuff like my my entire family on my mom’s side is in was in is either currently active or has been in the military. M I I know military people and like there isn’t most of the time you’re you have to like talk these guys down like they’re they want to so most of the time they’re just waiting for red tape to be fixed.

It’s just a certain mentality like those guys on the front lines they want to be there. It’s like they’re not they’re not like there like on a like against their own will. They [bleep] they’re like let’s [bleep] go. I couldn’t do it. It’s not for me. I’m and they could probably like figure it out like, “Oh [bleep] we’re going to be next. Like, we’re only a mile away.” Like, yeah. And well, they’re obviously attacking Americans. We’re Americans. Like, we’re [bleep] So, after a 2-year investigation by a bipartisan probe reviewing drone footage and testimony, agreed. No support for a standown order. Oh, because drone footage is going to catch the standown order.

just a brief defensible tactical disagreement over whether to gather Libyan support before heading out. Oh, that seems very convenient to be like, “Don’t go out yet. I’m trying to get Libyan support.” So, maybe it wasn’t a stand, it was a hold. See, it’s like semantics. Yeah. Right. It wasn’t a standown order. It was a hold order. It was I I would never say stand down. [laughter] I never said stand down. We need a group. It was a wait. It was a wait. Yeah. So, the team was gone from base 93 minutes. And on a related note, a four-man special ops team in Tripoli was told to remain in place as well.

Nine military officers testified their more urgent job was protecting three dozen Americans in Tripoli, not Benghazi. The Benghazi. Well, look, I mean, that’s that specific point is understandable. Yeah. It’s like they like how far away is Tripoli anyway? Like it’s not it’s a 90minute flight. Flight. Yeah. But but they’re probably thinking, okay, maybe it’s some like multiple coordinated attack. We got to make sure our assets are safe. I can understand that. But like the homies that are one mile away, that’s a different [bleep] story. But the the the So the compound with the ambassador, they would never have made it, right? The triple. Oh, no.

No, no, no. But this entire situation was 13 hours, right? So if they had gotten word, hey, we’re under attack. Compound is overrun. Yeah. Need support. We’re now retreating to CI annex. Come. Yeah. Technically, they should have been there in maybe 3 hours. Yeah. Yeah. Where is the support? Yeah. It’s also like realistically too like this is the US military we’re talking about. You mean to tell me there’s not some aircraft carrier that’s like [bleep] 100 miles offshore that can like rip some F22s off? G give us one little flyby. Just a fly. A flyby is enough to deter like oh the little RPGs. Like So where does that leave you?

Three men on the record under their real names saying they were told to wait or the anonymous Bob, the man that they’re accusing anonymously denying it flatly. And then a bipartisan investigation with access to drone footage that we’ll never see backed Bob’s version. No, but see how can a drone how can drone footage the drone footage is irrelevant in terms of whether they were told to wait or not. Yeah. It’s not like the drone is like inside the building. It would just and they’re like talking. They’re like, “Hey, man.” It would actually confirm that there is no motion and they’re they’re just sitting there. See, this is why I don’t trust lat intelligence committee [bleep] Oh, when they like start say it’s bipartisan, so it’s so it’s totally above board.

No, it’s not. It’s [bleep] [bleep] Yeah. Nobody has ever produced a written order either way. And this argument isn’t probably going to go anywhere because there’s we don’t have the data. Yeah. Because in the middle of getting rundown mob like he’s supposed to print out an order, right? Hold on a second. [laughter] I’m waiting for a fact. Now, here’s where the story gets a little bit conspiratorial. And now, starting with a reasonable question. Why did the US maintain a covert CIA annex in Benghazi at all? It wasn’t really that covert, but this was more than a year. This was this was more than a year after the war that toppled Gaddafi.

Yeah. Meaning it it was over. Well, you know ex you know exactly why. Cuz we wanted to [bleep] put up Exactly. Dude, this is the US playbook, baby. Like, put our homies in power. This is so simple. We do this every time. We’ve been doing this for years. Why do we do this? I don’t [laughter] know. Why do we care so much? Who cares about this? It’s about control. It’s about whoever is there, can we control them? And also and and also it another thing related to that is they probably gave all the you know necessary guns to the uh militia. Oh for sure you know.

Yeah. See like what’s like what’s it here? Think about why do we have to go like oh okay the responsible thing to do is put a democratic society into Benghazi. You right like why do we need to well look enforce our will upon this nation? Yeah, I just don’t understand that part because that’s with the powers that be. It’s not like the everyday Americans goal. [laughter] But when you have it’s like Vietnam. We just talked about it, right? It’s literally like why why did we understand a little bit if it’s like okay, we’re worried that they have nuclear capabilities and then you know they’re aggressive towards America.

Okay. Like maybe there’s some something there. But but why do we need to install the new government and the new way of life? [snorts] You know what I understand that? Cuz you’re trying to expansion, baby. You think so? [bleep] yeah. Of course. It’s all It’s all like Okay, imagine That’s a bummer. Imagine this. Imagine like you’re not really worried about like money anymore. You have you have enough money. You have enough money for like literal like hundreds of generations. What’s the What’s the game now? power. Yeah, it’s power. Like what’s it’s not it’s not fun. Like I already have enough money. I don’t need like who needs I don’t need any [bleep] more money.

It’s not going to change anything. You know what changes thing? If I own the government of other countries. Yeah. Power and control. That becomes a game. And now it’s like oh yeah. Like then it becomes fun. It’s like a weird like think of it like typically when you break things down to like the the basic root of it, it’s a game. And like to them that’s the game. It’s the game instead of it instead of like, oh, it’s the game of like my individual life. Like, hey, I made it. I made a great company. I I changed a lot of lives. It’s like, okay, well, I did that now.

But then for them, which is it’s a kind of megalomaniac psychotic [bleep] view. It’s like, I wonder if I can just like control everything. [laughter] Like that is definitely a megalomatic [bleep] Yeah. It’s like, well, we already like run [bleep] but like we could like like legitimately run [bleep] Yeah. The theory that circulated for over a decade was or is the annex wasn’t just a standard intelligence outpost. It was tracking, buying back or facilitating the movement of Gaddafi’s looted surfaceto-air missiles toward rebel groups fighting in Syria. And Stevens, given his deep relationships with Libyan militia leaders, was connected to it. whether he was fully read into its covert dimensions or not.

And there’s more here than pure speculation. It’s confirmed that far more CIA personnel were on the ground that night than the State Department personnel. Fox News reported that Stevens himself was working on getting Libyan surfaceto-air missiles out of extremist hands. A Libyan flagged vessel, the Alatansar, is documented arriving at a Turkish port on September 6, 5 days earlier, reportedly carrying weapons for Syrian rebels. And in a declassified testimony, both by the DNI and the CIA’s own deputy director confirmed weapons genuinely were moving from Libya towards Syria, and the US was aware of it. We’re aware of it all. I mean people who don’t people who like truly believe that like [bleep] happens without us knowing it’s especially nowadays like in 2026 like we know everything that’s happening and but the thing is like all the superpowers too like there’s so much available tech and it’s you can it’s so easy nowadays to have a tiny [bleep] you know tiny in comparison but like a a drone that’s like flying like near the stratosphere that can like literally just like zoom in and like watch you like go take like go have like a morning coffee on like on your [bleep] balcony like they they [bleep] know what’s going on.

Yeah. What’s never been proven despite years of digging by a hostile Republican controlled House Intelligence Committee hostile is that the CIA itself was running the pipeline. Well, I mean we we’ve I think we all would agree that they’ve been doing that for quite some time. Yeah. The committee’s conclusion stated about as plainly as a government report ever does, which was that all CIA activities in Benghazi were legal. Oh, sure. [laughter] Under whose laws? We make the law. And and were authorized and the CIA was not sending weapons to Syria or facilitating others who were moral’s own account draws a careful line. The annex was collecting intelligence about other groups moving weapons, not moving them themselves.

See, this is what me and So, when me and Eric had our little like pre- discussion Yeah. we were talking about 911 and you know, one of the things that got brought up was, you know, the the Patriot Act. Yeah. M and the the pretty much like blank check ability to do whatever the [bleep] you want under the under the heading of national security. Mhm. Like you pretty much have you can pretty much unlimited unlimited reach and unlimited thing to do whatever the [bleep] you want. Privacy and and yeah it’s like there’s no like Geneva Convention [bleep] like no it’s like national security, right? So like we’re doing this in the interest of the nation.

Whether that’s true or not, it still gives them the latitude to do whatever the [bleep] they want. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the next part, what happened next was one of the most extensively investigated single incidents in modern American political history. The State Department’s own accountability accountability review board led by Thomas Pickering and Admiral Mike Mullen published its findings in December of 2012. And it said systemic failures within two state bureaus and a security posture it called grossly inadequate but no recommendation of discipline for anyone. [laughter] No one was in the wrong and yeah and just move on. Cool. Cool. Wow. Cool. No wrong. So pretty much she was uh everything was legit except for hey you guys did a bad job but no discipline and you know it makes me feel really shitty for the the Americans who died and and the families of those Americans kind of just swept under the rug.

Just forget it, move on or like move on. It was a bummer. No closure, no no justice, no nothing. The Senate Intelligence Committee’s bipartisan review, which was released in 2014, concluded the attacks were preventable given ample strategic warning. Its chair, Diane Feinstein, said she hoped it would put to rest many of the conspiracy theories around Benghazi. Cool. Meaning meaning so it was not preventable because they didn’t hear anything about it beforehand. Correct. But they did get notified when it was going down. Why where where was the help? Where’s support? I think the main thing is like yeah, you could have prevented those deaths could have been prevented if there was more immediate action, right?

Yeah. But they’re saying it could have been prevented if they had the intelligence. I know. See, which they never had in time. They’re taking zero. It’s the blame. It’s the blame game. They’re like, “Oh, it’s not our fault. Well, we didn’t do anything wrong. It was because we didn’t have this.” But like, well, why didn’t you have this? Well, it’s because not me. [laughter] So then in 2014, in 2014, the Republicans created something called the House Select Committee on Benghazi. And it was the longest congressional investigation into a single event in American history, running roughly 700 days longer than the 9/11 commission. Oh my god.

Yeah, but this is just another one of those they put commissions like the same, you know, we just saw it recently with Epstein. They put another one together for Epstein. Nothing happened all the time. They allocated $7 million for the investigation. Yeah. See, this is where it is. It’s money. Yeah. It’s like cool. And here’s what their investigation is. They’re like, can uh this is a cool Amazon Prime deal here. [laughter] Let it rain. Now, in one of the more famous moments in October of 2015, the committee spent roughly 11 hours questioning Hillary Clinton. By then, she was the Democratic frontr runner, producing one of the most replayed exchanges of the decade.

Months earlier, before a sen a different Senate committee pressed repeatedly on protest versus premeditated assault, she finally responded with the following. With all due respect, the fact is we have four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it even make? Hillary, great politician type of answer. She meant it like I mean she’s, you know, I see what she’s saying. Yeah, I could see. I see what she’s saying, but I think that but you’re literally on this seat so we can find answers.

Well, no. And the point you’re sitting there so that they can question her for the answers. That’s the point. I think it’s like what are you doing with your job? Like this is your job. Well, see, all anybody wants really is accountability. That’s all like the American people want is accountability. Like, hey, you know what? I [bleep] up. Like, we should have had more people there. I, you know, we would have been a better look for her. Yeah. Like, we knew that it was understaffed. You know, we let it we let it [bleep] slip and that was our [bleep] You know, it’s like you’re not going to get charged with our murders, but like at least people can be like, “Okay, at least there’s some [bleep] that we can like be pissed off at.” Yeah.

You know, we lost their family member. Like, give me something. Instead of being like, “Well, it’s uh there’s no wrongdoing here.” So, the select committee’s final report released in June of 2016 found no new evidence of wrongdoing by Clinton and did not substantiate the standown order. What it did conclude, more quietly, but just as damning, was that the regional military assets weren’t postured to respond, and the administration’s public communications afterwards were badly mismanaged. Oh, so they’re saying it’s it’s the people who who came in there. No, no, no, wait. They’re they’re saying that the real blame is on the guys who risked their life to save them.

They weren’t prepared enough. That’s what it seemed like. It’s like it’s their fault. Yeah. The guys who literally Yeah. [bleep] two of them died and they’re like, “It’s their fault.” Yeah. No, I think they’re just admitting to not having the proper amount of support and security, right? Isn’t that what it said? I don’t know. I took it I took it a different way. Yeah. I don’t know the answer to it to be honest. Okay. Okay. And here’s the part that turned Benghazi from a foreign policy scandal into some would argue single most consequential threat of the entire 2016 election. And it almost happened by accident.

While combing through State Department records related to the attack, the select committee discovered Clinton had conducted her official business for the entirety of her four years as Secretary of State through a private email server installed at her home in New York. [laughter] Of course, she totally totally not out security. That discovery had nothing directly to do with the September 11th, 2012, but it triggered a separate FBI investigation that shadowed Clinton’s campaign for the entire election. In July 2016, Director Comey announced no charges while calling Clinton and her aids extremely careless with classified information. See, it’s like how like this is this is the [bleep] that like pisses me off.

They can literally be sending classified emails on an unencrypted, unprotected server. Private on their own private email server, state secrets, super highlevel communications. Meanwhile, if I don’t report the money that I made from [laughter] Cash App, it’s like feds are going to kick my [bleep] door in. Like, what the [bleep] dude? What the actual [bleep] Yeah. Hillary 1222gmail.com. [laughter] You know, then on October 28th, 11 days before the election, Comey sent a letter to Congress and it said the FBI had found new emails on a device belonging to the husband of a top Clinton aid and was reopening the investigation. He closed it again on November 6, which was 2 days before the vote, saying that he found nothing new.

But by most political historians accounts, that 11-day window before the election actual votes was such damage to Clinton’s campaign that it’s possible that she would have maybe won if that didn’t happen the week prior to the election because she lost roughly by 70,000 votes. Well, there you go. There you go. I don’t know. Maybe you shouldn’t be like, you know, ripping state secrets via [bleep] Gmail, like, you know, or Hotmail or whatever. Yahoo. Seriously, a maybe you shouldn’t um be a bad secretary of state. Yeah, maybe you should. Yeah, like let’s take all conspiracies of like evil wrongdoing aside. Yeah, maybe just don’t be a bad secretary of state.

I mean, yeah, that happening under your watch, regardless of who you are, is a bad look. Yeah, for sure. It’s a bad look. So, Susan Rice withdrew from consideration for Secretary of State in December 2012 amid that controversy. John Kerry got that job instead. Oh, yeah. John Kerry. But Obama named her national security adviser the later year. Oh, wow. And it’s like, whoa. The man identified as the ring leader on the ground, militia leader Ahmed Abu Katala, evaded capture for almost two years before US forces snatched him from Libya in June of 2014. And in 2017, a federal jury convicted him on four terrorism charges, but he was acquitted for murder.

And it was a split verdict that pretty much satisfied nobody. He was sentenced to 22 years in prison. Cool. Cool. Cool. H. You can get convicted of terrorism charges and you only spent a 20 a twin. You’re going to get Are you kidding me? Also, if you’re leading four Americans died, let’s just take out the word American. Four people died. Yeah. Four humans. Four humans died. And you did not I I don’t know what to say about it’s it’s pretty pretty lame. It’s [bleep] [bleep] Yeah. So, where does that leave us more than a decade on? The core facts on the ground are about as well established as they’ll ever be.

A coordinated non-spontaneous assault by fighters tied to Ansar Alsaria overwhelmed an underdefended compound. Washington had been repeatedly warned about and failed to protect. Four Americans died because of that failure. A conclusion that sits on the State Department’s own doorstep by its own admission. What’s never been fully resolved is nearly everything that happened afterwards. Whether the video explained was a genuinely botched intelligence assessment or a deliberate deflection. Whether the standown fairly describes what three CIA contractors were told that night or a phrase that’s taken on a life bigger than the room that it happened in. whether that the annex’s presence had anything real to do with weapons trafficking or whatever the word is that you want to use weapons movement or arms transition.

Yes, exactly. A theory with a small kernel that’s been verified, but no hard proof that it caused the attack. What we can say for certain is this. Christopher Stevens, Shawn Smith, Tyrone Woods, and Glenn Doherty went to work in one of the most dangerous cities on Earth because their government sent them there. They were underdefended after being warned repeatedly that something like this was coming. everything after the shifting talking points, the PR, the nine investigations, the 11-hour hearing with with uh the intelligence committee [bleep] with uh Clinton, the email server situation, the election that it may have helped or not helped has arguably done less to honor those four men than turn their their deaths into a permanent argument about who tells the truth in Washington.

No one. Mhm. You know, none of them, not a single one. And if this show has learned anything about doing conspiracy after conspiracy, it’s that when the official story keeps changing, the doubt that creates doesn’t ever fully go away. Whether or not there was actually anything left to hide. Exactly right, dude. It’s like, and here’s the thing, and and I I want I want to preface this this way. I still and probably always will believe and it’s a fact. The US is the best place in the world to live. But big butt and I wouldn’t change it. I would not I would rather live here than anywhere else on planet Earth 100 times out of except for Japan.

Maybe I would live in Japan for sure. [laughter] That’s true. I live in Japan first and then USA is a very close second. I think I’d live in Ireland. You know, I I don’t know how the government is, but like I had a blast when I was there. It was amazing. I’d live in I’d live in the outskirts of Ireland because I cut I cut Sean off. Like he was trying to make a point. I would weigh 2,000 pounds from all the ganist. [laughter] I would be the largest human who’s ever lived. No, but but the more you think about it and really look at it, the US government is the mob.

The new mob. They are the mob. Mhm. Like if you’ve ever watched any mob movie, The Godfather, we watch Sopranos. Me and my wife are re-watching The Sopranos and we had this talk a couple days ago. We were watching and I was like, “Oh my god.” I’m like, “The US government’s the mob. That’s literally that’s literally what they are.” Cuz she had asked me something. It was something about like why are we like protecting or helping or sending troops or something [bleep] I was like it’s like this. So here’s what we do. We tell them that they need protection, right? And they have to pay for the protection.

But if they don’t pay for the protection, we just [bleep] bomb them. Like just we’ll we we’re need protection from us. Like they’re paying for protection from us. And that’s literally what the mob was. The mob started was like, “Oh, okay, cool. We’ll protect you from these rival gangs.” But then those rival gangs cease to exist. And they’re like, “Well, you need to keep paying.” They were like, “Well, what if I don’t pay?” Then like the payment is protection from us killing you. Like we’ll kill you until unless you pay. And that’s literally what what it’s become. It has become who this exchanging money and exchanging this for favors.

And instead of protection, it’s favors. And that’s why you see and all of this [bleep] I don’t give a [bleep] what side of it is. Oh, bipartisan whatever jerk off. It’s all like they’ll protect themselves because they’re all exchanging money for the favors, for the protection. They’re all paying each other out. They’re all getting on the take. They’re all in league with the [bleep] military-industrial complex. They’re all getting payouts. They’re all like with all the legislation is all about money. And then guess what happens when someone’s got to take accountability? None ever happens. Everyone’s insulated. And then they have some like rando fall guy who’s nobody.

And then nothing ever happens. Look at Epstein. Look at [bleep] COVID. Look at [bleep] 9/11. Look at everything. No one is there’s zero accountability for anything. Yeah. The you in in in the US government’s eyes, no. They’ve never done they’ve never [bleep] up. Not once. Not once. We were in war in Afghanistan for 10 [bleep] plus years. And And what happened? remember they they didn’t the Afghanis like they literally like took they took like an entire like legion of [bleep] like equipment and planes and [bleep] Humvees and [bleep] and they were like whoa well I mean it’s not our fault I don’t know how they got it like it was cheaper just to leave it there [bleep] you know what are we going to do and I’m like dude what the [bleep] so that’s it’s the conspiracy is that yeah they [bleep] up but they just don’t care because they can’t get in trouble.

M yeah. Yeah. Like that’s my theory. They knew it was [bleep] They just didn’t care. Yeah. Bad [bleep] happened. They [bleep] gave it the old PR [bleep] machine. No one got in trouble and business as usual. Yeah. That’s all that’s it’s lit. Watch Sopranos. It’s literally like watching an episode of Sopranos is literally like watching like a day in the life of a congressman. [laughter] It’s like it’s exactly what it is 100%. So what do you think happened with the the waiting? What was the point of of let’s say let’s say they did say stop like wait. Mhm. Why? Because they were probably trying to they were probably in essence trying to like [bleep] play catch-up.

They knew that this was going to happen and it [bleep] happened. Homie’s like, “Oh my god, it’s happening.” and they’re like, “Oh [bleep] we need to like devise a story.” Like, and we need to we need to come up with our get our ducks in a row because if those homies go in and then it’s like whatever, it’s like it’s going to the news is going to get out. Yeah. So, if you can like But but that weight order came from Bob. Bob. Bob. So, I don’t I don’t think or whoever Bob was listening to. Oh, so okay. I wasn’t thinking that. Maybe he was on the phone.

No, I wasn’t thinking that with his boss. Well, no. Here’s here’s the other like here’s the other dark the other dark truth. Well, not I say truth the dark possibility is that they gave all these weapons to these militia guys and they wanted them to have a win like oh you see look at yeah your weapons can [bleep] break into a US embassy. Oh my god wow wow wow wow wow weewah. And then like yeah like obviously we’ll come and clean it up afterwards. They were really trying to arm them to to take over Syria. No. Or to take that guy down. Well, yeah. They were This is the government exchange program here.

Welcome to the US. [laughter] Okay. I mean, this has happened before with like CIA like arming the all the time and it’s all about power and control and we kind of touched on that and and like placing somebody there that they can control this dem this democratic um idea of like, you know, they need a democratic society blah blah blah. Yeah. because we control that democracy 100% you know 100% and especially it’s like you can’t take and look democracy is fine like it’s fine it’s not a perfect system I also think that the weight order could have come because they’re supposed to be covert oh [bleep] I didn’t even think about that so it’s almost like you can’t go out there or like oh they’re coming over here now so like you can’t leave this unprotected cuz we CIA information.

That’s a good That’s a good point. That’s a good point. Actually, that’s my theory. Is you sure it’s on Jorge’s theory? No, it has to be Eric’s theory. Jorge is agreeing with Eric. I gave you that theory. I’m glad you agree with me. [snorts and laughter] Thanks for expounding upon my theory. All right. My theory was is that the Bob or whatever was more concerned with his own covert mission, his own safety. Oh, he was like, “You you guys leave, you leave me.” Yeah. Oh, damn. Oh, yeah. For sure. And it’s it’s a little cowardice. Yeah. Because they’re trying to go rescue people. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Bob Bob test Bob said this anonymously. Bob’s name. He’s a coward. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, for security purposes. Yeah. Coward. But nonetheless, I mean, the four that passed got the got the shitty side of it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It really sucks, dude. Do you think Hillary had anything to do with this or not? Really? I don’t think Hillary I think Hillary was she was the Secretary of State and No, I think she she was she was inept in her duties. Yes. There you go. So, it’s not it’s she didn’t do anything malicious, but if Yeah, it’s it’s a it’s like a you’re just not good at your job.

It’s the fault is of omission. Like, she she was probably told multiple times that like this was a heavily unsecured area. Obviously, it’s in a [bleep] complet a war torn [bleep] place. They just had a like a a giant regime change. Mhm. And she just didn’t do [bleep] about it. So, it was like ineptitude. And obviously, this whole thing was like I think for her she was like, “Oh, I didn’t do anything wrong.” And then they’re like, “What is this email server?” That was like a completely random thing. Like the open It opened the door to her other ineptitude. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Like I’m sorry.

It’s like if you’re do like you shouldn’t there needs to be like we should be whole like our like these aren’t they’re not supposed to be like me and you like we’re okay mistakes happen at work whatever it’s an email blah. It’s like these [bleep] need to be held to a higher standard. like we’re voting them in the office and I mean clearly when you get voted in the office you instantly become a multi-millionaire. So that’s I mean clearly something good about being in this position. Yeah. Like why aren’t we holding them to higher standards like they should be the best of us. Yeah, like back in the hizzy, you got like our [bleep] these old boys and people are like, well, you know what?

Like these guys are the [bleep] but like these guys like I feel like they really were like about the people. Like I want the people to [bleep] like we need to be held to the standard to take care of like these people who fought and [bleep] died so we could like Yeah. talk [bleep] and like have fun, [laughter] you know? Well, there you go guys. That is Benghazi. if you wanted to look further into Benghazi, you know, definitely watch that the Hollywood movie. It was good. It was a good movie. It was a good movie. Definitely a good movie. Um, there’s also a couple I watched two documentaries uh that were stories told by the soldiers that survived and it was an interesting look at like what actually happened because they’re backing up certain parts of that story.

And so it’s it’s pretty cool if you wanted to look further into this the story of Benghazi. Totally. So there you go guys. We are now doing something called after hours. Oh yeah. And it’s for Patreons only. And it’s after the show. Kind of where Eric lets his hair down. Eric lets his skin down. [laughter] And we just kind of shoot the [bleep] a little bit more about the episode. Give you a little bit more uh a candid look at Benghazi in this episode. And it’s for Patreons only. So, so if you’re not a Patreon, sucks to be you, but we’ll see you shortly. And as always, smash the [bleep] out of that subscribe button.

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