And probably some things that might offend you, but don’t listen to this. Can’t wait till you listen. Yeah, don’t, if you’re 18 up. Don’t do it if you’re 18 up. Yeah, what’s up everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Conspiracy podcast. We are doing part three of our OJ Saga, or what do you call, yeah, OJs Saga. Anything more than the trilogy is a saga, right? Yeah, that’s right. And it’s lasted 30 years. Jesus, the Epic. Yeah, welcome back everybody. Yeah, we’re, we’re happy you’re here. We’ve gotten a lot of good feedback on the last couple episodes. Yeah, appreciate the listens. So, you know, pry good, got some press too.

Get some press. Yeah, couple new stations picked it up, and ABC, colia Hal, couple of small towns. Yeah, you know, Columbia is not that small. Columbia, South Carolina. Yeah, all right, all right, it’s all right, it’s all right. It’s no New York, you know, we’re about to lose all our Columbia listeners, and they’re like, I [bleep] hate these guys. Okay, so what did we cover in, in part two? So that was the trial, right? That was the, you know, that was, we went over, obviously, the, the glove didn’t fit, the glove, Cochran, Ferman. Oh yeah, Ferman, God, idiot. I remember saying the word, “not one,” not, not one time.

And the, the jury, the 4H hour deliberation, four hours. I still can’t get over that. I thought about that for like a long time after we finished it. 4 hours, you know, it, I would have been insulted, right? Yeah, yeah, I haven’t even finished a conversation with my wife over four hours. I’m still in an argument for, AR SER, four, four days, the four years. What did you say last time? Uh, can’t even get through podcast episode. I know, [bleep], yeah, so that was ridiculous. Yeah, I know, but so he got, he got acquitted. So, uh, celebration in the streets, that’s another thing, celebration in the streets, we, going, the last episode, cuz it was so close to the, oh, the LA riots.

Yeah, the LA riots, or, or, um, but what was, yeah, it was the LA riots, but what is it, was because of that, oh, uh, um, his name, Rodney King, rodne King. Yeah, so, you know, everything was still fresh there, and, but it’d be a little bit different if it was for something really good for African-American people. That’s right, you know, like something, it was like, you know, you know, we won Gold in the Olympics. No, but it was, you know, Justice, finally, I don’t know. But, but the irony is, not, not Justice at all, anti-Justice, the system failed. Do you think it was a step back?

Oh, 100%, yeah, I totally think, any anything where you’re glorifying the murder of, of a person, and the person gets off, and you’re only happy just because it was a black person that got off, or a white person, or, or Asian, doesn’t matter what, any, any time I think that, in it of itself is weird. Yeah, yeah. So after the verdict, polling was done, and it showed that 75% of white Americans thought he was guilty, while 70% of African-Americans thought he was innocent, really, this, at the time of the verdict, it’s a pretty thick divide there. Yeah, wow, okay. So 75% of white Americans thought he was guilty, 70% of African-Americans thought he was not guilty.

That’s crazy, I would have not guessed that. Yeah, so at the end of this episode I will read you what today’s poll is, today’s, and I wonder how many people they actually PLL, like, especially when they do these polls, like, they’re only taking like a sample size, maybe like, th, 10,000 Max. So it’s really interesting to see how they’re, I love how they generalize, like a thousand white people, 90% of white people, you know, that’s why they get the election polls so wrong. I know, they’re so wild, because they go, oh yeah, okay, I was in Baton Rouge and I did a 100 surveys in, like, in like this neighborhood, one neighborhood.

Yeah, that’s why statistics can be skewed so easily. Yeah, so in 1996, after the criminal trial, in 1996, Fred Goldman and Sharon, the parents of Ron Goldman, and Lou Brown, the father of Nicole, they filed a civil suit against Simpson. Mhm, I remember that. Yeah, and so it was a wrongful death suit. Okay, yeah, I mean, they had a different judge, it was a whole different trial. Yeah, right, the judge was named Hoshi Fuji Saka, saki Fujisaki. Yeah, so, and, and the purpose of the trial is what, to get money? Cuz for money, yeah, you’re not going to go to jail for this, it’s not a criminal, it’s double jeopardy.

He cannot go to, he cannot go to prison for the same crime. That’s right. Yeah, that’s crazy. Also, civil suit, you’re, you’re suing the individual, you’re not, it’s not the state versus OJ, right? That’s true, that’s very true. So it’s, is like, it’s, it’s the city prosecutor against that. Okay, yes, it’s Fred and Sharon versus OJ Simpson, right? That makes sense. Yeah, so, in this, completely different than the trial before. So the judge didn’t allow cameras, and also it took the jury 42 minutes. Uh, the jury was not sequestered. Oh, they could just do whatever they want, no one cared. It was in a different County, it was in Santa Monica, and they were not, the defense was not allowed to use the racism angle, uh, of the LAPD, versus, you know what I mean?

I wonder how that works, like, why not, that’s part of their, it was part of their defense. I mean, it was part of the, what actually happened. Yeah, know, yeah, it’s true, I’m just saying, I don’t, I wonder, I, I agree, but I, I don’t know, that’s the argument, right, is, does, does that prove innocence or guilt? How you believe in things, right? So if you’re a, okay, I go, I shoot him, I shoot, sea, yeah, you’re watching, right? Okay, I shoot him, you’re watching, you’re the star witness, okay? Okay, so is it correct for me to dig into your entire life and see where you stand in your politics, for example, if you’re defending me, I would want you to do that, I would want my lawyer to do that.

Well, no, obviously the whole point, the whole point, point is, did you see it, though? Yeah, see, the whole point is, like, so if you, if you’re a liberal, it doesn’t mean you didn’t see someone get killed, the murder. Okay, that’s true. Yes, you know what I mean? No, hor, stop thinking as a defendant’s, like, but I don’t want to go to jail, like, hell yeah, dig into his background, yeah, put him on trial too, exactly, put him on the stand. Uh, anyway, so that’s just the differences, I know, you know, it, it is debatable, and you’re, you’re not wrong, there is that, you’re right, I mean, you know, I, no cameras, cameras, you’re also doing the, the, uh, credibility of a witness.

So, yeah, so if you’re, if you’re a crack addict, I’m going to, and you’re, you lie constantly, and you are a just a bad person, I, as a jury member, I might go, hey, maybe they’re lying again, maybe he’s lying again, right? Yeah, exactly, so there is that, I agree, racism might not, I do agree that there’s, that is an important factor, but I don’t think it, it’s weird that that matters so much, when just the evidence, and I think they were, and I think the reason that it was probably not used for this, because, obviously, in the criminal trial they were going with the physical evidence that was there, and since he was the cop, they were trying to spin it as if he could have manipulated that evidence.

So that’s why I think, probably why. Yeah, like in the civil case, or, well, no, we don’t care, you know, it’s not, it’s not as big of a thing as opposed, you know, he could technically, he could have picked up the glove, he could have moved it over there, you know, he could have wiped little blood on it. Yeah, it’s true. I, so it’s weird, also you have to take into account, the prosecution were different people, then, in the criminal court or case, they were just different people, and they had a different strategy, they did different things, they messed up. Oh God, they just messed upal.

So a couple things of note, they, you remember when we went over what they found in the Bronco? Yeah, cash, fake. The defense in the first trial didn’t bring that as evidence. Oh my God, are you kid, the first thing I would say, he literally had eight G’s, a [bleep] disguise, is not a person, that’s, you know, this is a person that’s trying to get away, trying to, yeah, so strategically they just, they didn’t, do you see what I mean, so I don’t know, it’s like a, b, like the coach tried a different thing there, you know, don’t pass it to Steph, I don’t know, you know, they just didn’t, they just put Steph on the bench.

Yeah, Steph, you’re on D, we’re up two one in the series, [bleep] it, this is rest, rest of starters. So I don’t know, so a lot of different things were not put into it. Um, the other thing was, so you remember the, the shoe print that they found, a bloody shoe. Yeah, it was like lead on the walkway. On the walkway, to, so they found in the criminal trial that it belonged to a Bruno maggle Shoe. Right, type of shoe, they only made like 200 of these. Sounds like a nice [bleep] shoe. Bruno magley, sounds Delux. They only made like 200 of these shoes, so it was very a small, and OJ bought 42 pairs.

Yeah, and he’s a 63, you know, man, right, so it’s not, he’s wearing 10 and a halfes, right, you know. Okay, so they found photos of him at a football game doing commentary, wearing the shoes. Oh my god, wow, okay, the shoes, the Bruno magley, yes. And he said in an interview, “I would never wear those shoes cuz they’re ugly ass shoes, I would never wear those shoes unless I was on TV,” and then I would wear. So in the First court case, they never put the photo of him wearing the shoes. We should, we, they sucked, we should be, we should be prosecutors. Yeah, you see the, they just did the strategy, and the whatever, they just didn’t do it.

Yeah, you know, and so, um, so this was then included in the Civil Trial. I see, right, right, okay. Also, OJ took a polygraph test, which is not invisible in court, the second time, or the first time, he actually did it the first time. Yeah, but they didn’t put it into the criminal case, because it’s not a missible in court, I, yeah, I know, but they did put it here as, oh, just, just F, just to show, like, he failed. So, as much as you could fail, like the whole time, it’s like just going, “Is your name MOJ?” It’s like, “Yes.” And then it’s like, “Did you kill your wife?” “Of course, of course not.” So results from the, the polygraph test, the note says that Simpson had extreme deception.

So pretty much, he’s, without saying it, he’s lying, full of [bleep], he was, the technical, ter, imag, technical term, 100% liar, 100%, 100%. But, like you said, it’s not a Mis, because, because it’s not a science, not, you know, they could have had stach, you could be nervous, yeah, you get the shits, yeah, so you, you don’t really know. But we’re just, I’m just taking the things that were included in the Civil Trial that were not included in the criminal trial. Totally, yeah, totally. Ferman did not testify. I’ll, [bleep], fancy that. Well, I play the fif, saw, play the F, they knew what he was going to say the whole time.

Yeah, I love black people. So Simpson did testify, really, on this one, he did. Okay, yeah, do you like, have a couple fake tears in there. So it’s kind of hard to know, because they didn’t film it. Oh, [bleep], that’s right, true. So there’s a lot of drawings and and things like that, like the caricatures. Yeah, yeah, yeah, court artists, who gets that job? Like, that’s when you know you’ve, like, hit rock bottom, like, “I’m, I’m a court artist.” So they probably make bank, man, they should probably, do, get paid. I’m talking, [bleep], and, like, make more than I do. Do you think they go from, like, Venice Beach to S, I was thinking more, like, they go from, you, Disney doing character, like, do, hey, that’s a pretty good picture.

I think the Disney ones are the top, right, the artists. No, no, God, no, they’re doing caricatures, bro, it’s not like they’re doing, who are we talking about, getting paid or skill? We’re talking about getting paid. Oh, getting paid, Disney’s probably, they’re probably getting paid, everything in Disney is expensive. True, have you had gotten a water from Disney, [bleep], $400, it’s like, [bleep]. So in this trial they also did these interviews with OJ, and they’re kind of interesting to watch, where he had to go, and he had to get grilled by the attorney who actually knew how to interrogate somebody. Oh wow, attorney who’s actually good his job.

Yeah, so compared to the detective who did it, you know, allo, yeah, yeah, the detective and the freaking state district attorney, yeah, they, Jesus, they [bleep] it up. But anyways, he took the, he took the stand in his first trial, right? No, that’s what I thought. Okay, I was like, I was like, “Man, how did I miss that?” He didn’t. So in this one he did, and, and only thing we can take from it, because we weren’t there and we don’t have the video, is that it was similar to the, I was told it was, I wasn’t [bleep] told anything, I was told by my research, first off, we’re going to delete that, I wasn’t told the goddamn thing, I talked to the judge, morto, judge EO called me, no.

Okay, so what I read was that it was very similar to his interviews that he’ done on camera, that was right, for the trial by the attorney M, right, right. So in it, he’s very much, and this is what we had talked about, where he’s, he’s very Loosey Goosey with how he replies, so, smiley faces and [bleep]. Yeah, so, hey, where, how did you get that cut on your finger? I don’t know, man, I was in Chicago traveling, you know, this is that, in golf, we don’t know, man, you know, you play golf, you get nicked up here and there, you ask, I play all kinds of sports all the time, you know, little scratch here, there, see how fast I am, brother, man, I could have been into the bathroom saying, “Want autograph?” Yeah, the juice don’t know, when he’s picked up, the juice don’t know, he talks about himself in the third person as the juice.

Yeah, the juice don’t know, when the juice gets cut, the juice don’t worry about no Cuts. I love how we’re progressing, get, ju, don’t, with the juice, L it, right, we squeeze the juice, it’s all salty now, now he’s like going, the B, you, like, like, that was not racist. Listen, we all, no, 70% of Americans believe that’s not racist. So, uh, but in it, so he just kept being this vague thing, and this is when he said, “Hey, I didn’t hit my wife, but I’m responsible for what happened to her, physically, bruises,” and that’s what I never understand, he’s like, I didn’t hit her, but her face, but, yeah, hit her with a [bleep] pill, how did you beat the [bleep] but I didn’t hit her.

Then the guy goes, “Did you punch your wife?” And he goes, “I did not punch my wife, I’m responsible for this, the situation, and this, the, the condition that she was in, but I did not punch her.” Did he hire someone to punch her? And you’re kind of like, it’s like a kid, yeah, like, “I watched you take the candy.” “I didn’t take it.” Yeah, “I told you not to take the iPad.” “I didn’t take the iPad, but I’m responsible.” “Watched it.” “I watch the take it, I watched it, it’s in my bed right now.” Was like, define, yeah, yeah. So that happened, the, the civil suit, the jury found Simpson liable for the murders and awarded the victims of the families 33.5 million in compensatory and punitive damages.

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You can share the show with friends and family. Okay, thanks a bunch, everybody, now back to the show. Oh, that’s another thing, that’s true, one thing is winning, and now the next thing is collection. Get PA, interesting, like how literally, exactly the way he explains what happened with Nicole is exactly what happened in his trial. He’s, it’s like, literally, it’s like they find him guilty, he’s like, “Well, I didn’t kill her, but I’m responsible for being dead.” Like, “You got to pay 35 mil.” “Well, I got to pay, but, like, but do that, I got a checkins and a savings, see the way it work, the accounts.” You guys are not wrong, actually, cuz over the next two decades, this has been, they’ve gotten, like, ending, two decades.

Okay, soill, to this day, this is 96, [bleep], like 20 years, yeah, literally. So, so what happens is, right after this happened, he filed for bankruptcy. Oh, there he goes, he’s like, “Wipe my sleep clean.” Okay, then he eventually, he relocated to Florida, right? Yeah, and so, Florida, the good thing, andor, the bad thing about Florida is they have the laws where it protects your pension, and it protects your, your residence. Oh, so they, they can’t take your, like, you have to be able to live, that’s right, and your pension. Where did he get his pension? Probably nflpa, NL pension. So how much is that?

I know, it depends, I think it’s, I think it’s 100 Grand a year for the rest of your life, it might be something like that, cuz the nflpa, like, they, they pretty much invest that money for you, so they, so you, you have health, you have Healthcare, and you have money for the rest of your life. That’s right, so all of that was then protected, right, from this thing. So now he has, I mean, you, this is fast forward a little bit too, because he had to sell his, all his, yeah, all his Mia. So, so did he pay some of it? Okay, so here we go, so of it, so his remaining assets were seized and auctioned off, with most being purchased by critics of the verdict trial, to try to help the plaintiffs recoup the cost of litigation.

Oh wow, so it’s like a bunch of rich people who hated him, like, [bleep] it, we’ll buy it. Yeah, so also, like, his Heisman Trophy was sold for quarter million to an unknown buyer. But see, who would want that, though? Can you, like, etch off the name? Yeah, an undisclosed, but it has been told that 1% was paid to the Goldman. One, 1%, 1%, so that’s, that’s, 3, 300, 300, yeah, 300K, which the, the Heisman try was 250. What if, but really, but it’s weird that only 1% was paid, but, like, just one item sold for almost the 1%, you know. And what I’m, stuff is, Facebook Marketplace price, $7, hell, discounted, Marketplace.

All right, all right, I got a ton, OJ statue, 9.99, pickup only, pick, OBO, you ain’t got venmo, you don’t need to reply, right, right, and don’t ask me if it’s still available, if the listing’s up, it’s available. But here’s what’s crazy, and I don’t get it, and maybe, maybe one of our listeners who knows more Can help us, but if he had to sell his Brentwood home, why was he, why did he only give 1% to, you know what, it probably is, probably the bankruptcy, so it just went into the pool of the bankruptcy, so the bankruptcy, like, paid all debtors. Yeah, he filed bankruptcy, and then, so they’re like, oh, well, you know, first things first, we’re going to take care of, yeah, take care of the debts, The Debs City, true, and then he can only pay this, this, you know, remunerative thing, out of what he’s left with at the end.

Okay, which is kind of [bleep], but the creditors don’t care, they’re like, [bleep], pay us first, Fu, they don’t give a [bleep], they don’t give a [bleep] about the families. Yeah, now it became a battle between really the Goldman’s and OJ on finding his money and getting paid for it. Now the Goldman’s did say specifically, the dad, Fred Goldman, specifically said that he didn’t do the civil suit for money, he probably just wanted to prove, like, he was, he said he was so crushed that nobody acknowledged, from a court standpoint, nobody acknowledged that he was liable for the death, like, when it was, is a not guilty.

Good for him, man. Crushed, that he’s like, “I know this [bleep] guy killed my kid.” Yes, and Nicole, and so he’s like the next best thing I can do is get some court of law to say, acknowledge it, at least acknowledge it in some way. I could see that, man, I would do the same thing. I would, I wouldn’t have, I would have pulled a [bleep], I would have been like, I would have pulled a Samuel Jackson, from, found him in an alley. Oh my God, it’s so, yeah, it’s with Matt mccon, it’s so [bleep] up. But that’s what I would have did, like, AR, just in the courthouse.

Sorry, Time to Kill, Time to Kill, yeah, God, it’s a great movie, but it’s so [bleep] up, so [bleep] up. Yeah, the girl’s raped. Anyways, basically, if you haven’t watched the movie, if you haven’t watched the movie, Sam Jackson’s daughter, who’s like 11, gets raped by these two dudes, and then they’re going to get a lenient, they’re going to get a lenient trial, cuz it’s in a white Community. Yeah, and this is like, in, this is like back, like this is like kind of back in the day where, yeah, Mississippi, 60s, 7, like, like 60s, they’re still really mistreated. He was [bleep], he went to like, n, or some [bleep], and, and then he literally kills them in the courthouse.

Yeah, so he just takes, it’s little Batman, when, when they got off, when they, yeah, when, when they, when they pretty much, inessence, got off, they didn’t get off scott free, but they got super l. Oh, that’s true, and then he kills him, and then M gets him off in the end. Spoiler, well, look, still not, try, I watch that again, I’m not trying to leave him with the shitty Cliffhanger. Oh, she’s raped and they get off, like, oh, come on, a terrible story, very true, they’re okay, next podcast, click, this one up. Okay, so next we’re GNA get into the book, and this is the book called If I Did It, it’s just like the worst.

So, in 2006, 2007, OJ, some say it was OJ’s daughter, but let be, it was probably OJ’s idea, which was to write a book called If I Did It, and it was essentially, from his standpoint, he, and this is what he says, he says, “I wanted to tell the story, The Real Love Story, between myself and Nicole, [bleep], and also have a slant on it of, if it were something that I did do, how I would have done it, the night of, that I didn’t do it,” and he just happened to need some money too. I know, he’s like, just so Happ to, he’s like, he’s making a hard play to get, you know, that publish, to pay him up front, right?

So cuz first, what he does is he does, he does this interview, and interview is similar, where it was called OJ Simpson: The Lost Confession, and it was an interview of the hypothetical way that he would have done it, if he could, if he did do it, right, and so that’s the start of the idea that happened, and so then, then he brought it to the table, and he actually wrote this book with a another writer. Yeah, obviously he didn’t physically write it. Yes, exactly, and it was called If I Did It, and so I’m going to go over a few of it, cuz I did read the book, um, uh, painstakingly.

Yeah, it was very, very difficult to do. Also, I felt okay about it, because the proceeds of the book purchase actually goes to the Goldman. Oh, thank God. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, and it’s part of this story. So I didn’t really want to, you know, I don’t know, you weren’t supporting him, you’re supporting the Goldman. Yeah, yeah, so, okay, not that we’re biased on this podcast. No, no, we listen, we’re like a jury, open, we are like, we’re like a j, we’re just bringing you guys the facts, listen, this information. Yeah, we’re very Rog and open. Yeah, all hum are the story, I have no predetermined.

Okay, so the Goldman’s found out that he was going to write this book, and the Goldman were like, [bleep] this, we’re gonna stop this, we don’t want this book coming out, this is [bleep], he is going to make money off of, even if he didn’t do it, he’s writing a book about what maybe happened that night, let’s just say he didn’t do it, right, let’s just say he didn’t do it. I, I can’t even say that, but I know, no, I know, but I mean, if, okay, you know, he was acquitted, right, but my thing, yeah, like, who, who would write a book on, “Well, I didn’t do it, but here, I think I’m going to get into how I would do it, all evidence says I did it, but, you know, I didn’t do it, but if I did, but if I did I want to get into a deep, I’m going to deep dive into how I would have killed my wife.” Waiter, that only I would know, I know what the [bleep] inside the mine of a, of a potential killer that didn’t do it.

Damn, all right, sorry, continue. Okay, so it was going to come out, and then, so Fox, so Fox owns a lot of different things, right, and so Fox owned the publishing house that was going to release the book, and then they got tons of backlash from people going, “Bet, they, what the hell?” And a lot of people already, the Murdock, yeah, and so, actually, though, Murdoch recognized this, and he stopped the book. Oh wow, smart, so you, little thumbs up on Murdoch’s choice on that, right, because I agree with that, okay, good, so ready to make some money grant, he probably, he prob, originally he thought it was a good idea, saw, he saw the bottom line, he was like, he’s a business man, he was probably like, not worth it, yeah, yeah, so he squashed it.

And then the Goldman’s then took OJ to court, and OJ, yes, for the book rights, yeah, oh, so then also OJ created a shell company, and the [bleep], Guam, yeah, no, and he put his kids as the owners, oh, who were publishing the book, but it was him, and so then the proceeds would go to the Shell company. Yeah, that makes sense. So it’s not his money. That’s right, it’s not my money, you can’t take it, it’s not my money, the, the kids publish the book. So the gold sued him for the rights of the book and the proceeds for anything that it sells. This guy’s, so this guy is just the same game everywhere, I mean, “I did it, I didn’t do it, but I did do it, I did, I didn’t do it, but I’m, I’m responsible for,” it’s always the same game, “I didn’t make money, but I’m responsible for that money, I’m responsible for the money I spend it, but it’s not my money, I spend it, but I say I didn’t do it.” Oh man.

Okay, so they won, they won the rights, and the judge determined that the shell company was a farce created by OJ. Oh, of course it was, so that was the determine. Okay, so they won the rights, then what happened is they decided to use it as a confession. H, oh, they were like, great, now everyone will know he’s full of [bleep], so what they did is they changed it from If I Did It to I Did It. And they had to, no, and they had to keep it the same, they were told that it has to, it’s, that’s what they won was the title, was called If, so on the book it says “I Did It” in like 200 font, and then “If” is in literally four font.

Really? Yeah, so if you go look at the book, I got to look this up, yeah, it’s so tiny, that’s legendary, all it says is “I Did It,” but per the law it’s “If Did.” That’s hilarious, with the ultimate troll, it’s like they wrote “If” in like white font. Oh yeah, dude, D is like, “I am never going to let you,” go look at that, it’s not a joke. Yeah, “I did it,” here, I’m going to, I’m going to show this to the, crazy, yeah, and it’s Confessions of the Killer, yeah, wow, and it’s like the killer in yellow, man, they really. So they decided to do that, and then in the book they, I would say a big chunk of it is a forward by them, and is telling the story of this, and him hiding the money, and the shell Corporation, and the whole story, painting the light of the Shady, the Shady Shenanigans, and then there was a part too about the person who wrote it with O.J, where he was just saying, “Hey, I gave you dozens of times to change this, and this is what you wrote, so are you sure you want to write this,” meaning, like, he gave him all the opportunities in the world, because OJ later came out and said, “I didn’t really write this myself.” Oh my God, I’m responsible for it, we go againa, I didn’t, he’s like plausible deniability for everything.

Yes, what, what, yes. Okay, so one of the big biggest changes from what we know as a story of it, in the book is that he says there was another guy there. Yeah, and he says there was a guy there named Charlie, right, and Charlie alerted him, he went to his house in Brentwood and alerted him that there’s some crazy [bleep] going on at Nicole’s house. What’s Charlie’s last name? OJ, I don’t really know, the Jews don’t really remember things like that, I, I’m a first name basis type player. Yeah, so that’s the weird part, and he’s, and I’m going to read a couple excerpts, right, and it says, says, Simpsons’s friend Charlie was the one who alerted him to go to Nicole’s house that day.

He says, I quote, “I don’t know why he had been by Nicole’s house, but he told me, you wouldn’t believe what’s going on there, and I thought, whatever’s going on there’s got to stop.” So according to Simpson, both he and Charlie got into his white Bronco and drove to Nicole’s house, which is like one [bleep] second away. Yeah, like literally, it’s drove across the street, just walk there, it’s literally drove into my driveway. So he says, he says they parked in the nearby Alleyway, and Simpson pulled out a knife from under his seat, and he believes that Charlie took it. Okay, uhhuh, okay, he talked about blood and stuff, that there was a scene of the crime, and it reminded him, as things got heated, “I just remember in Cole fell, hurt herself, and this guy came out of nowhere and started doing a karate thing.” Ron, so Ron was a black belt, thir degree.

Yes, okay, and he said, describing the hypothetical moment, he kept saying, this is hypothetical, he was like, “I just brute forced it,” like he tried to do some crowy [bleep], “I just ran him over,” and so OJ says, “And I said, well, you think you could kick my ass, and, and I remember, I grabbed the knife, and I remember, hypothetic, I hypothetically remember, I remember hypothetically, and I remember I grabbed the knife, I do remember that portion, taking a knife from Charlie, and to be honest, after that I don’t remember, except I’m standing there, and there’s all kind of stuff around.” What, all kind of stuff, by, like, corpses?

This is, I wish, I wish I was as good as him when I got into arguing with my wife, how the hell does he get away with everything, “I’m responsible, but I’m not, like, I knew about it, but I didn’t, but hypothetically, I would, I would, I would remember this kind of stuff.” Yeah, my wife’s like, “You did this.” “Well, hypothetically, I remember.” I’m going try to pull that one next time, hypothetic, hypothetically, if I didn’t take out the trash, then, this was, you know, I didn’t do it, but I’m responsible. So he says, “I hate to say this, but this is hypothetical, I don’t,” why would he hate to say it, and he says, “I don’t think any two people could be murdered the way they were without everybody being covered in blood.” Everyone was covered, what, there was blood, wait, say that again, say that again.

“I hate to say this, but this is hypothetical, I don’t think any two people could be murdered the way they were without being covered in blood,” meaning that whoever murdered them would have been covered in blood. Yeah, it’s called, you change your clothes, it’s, you went to your house, which is a [bleep] like a hop skip and a jump away. B, he’s saying that there’s no evidence that I was not covered in any blood. True, and the way they were killed, he’s saying it would have been everywhere. Well, yeah, some beheaded, I mean, that’s, there’s going to be arterial spray, [bleep], all over the place, exactly, true.

But the fact is, he’s literally admitting, literally admitting, in that, even, even without the hypothetical part, that he went there, he was doing some karate [bleep], and then he, and then I, I’d blacked out. I know, and that’s the problem, problem is, in the book, it’s, there’s so many vague things, you know, I mean, who’s this Charlie guy, and also, why would he come over? “You wouldn’t believe what’s going down over there,” there’s a waiter over your girl’s house, dog, he brought her glasses. Get this is [bleep] crazy, if you remember, I don’t know if you remember, but in the original crime scene, they found candles everywhere in her house.

Now, they don’t know why, maybe she was trying to get a little, like, a little bubb, bubble bath. I know, so get down with the, there theories, no, there’s theories of that, there’s theories of that, good for her, or, or, there’s also, we’re three dudes, so we don’t know, the idea, we’re not going to take a bubble bath with candles, but girls might. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, don’t know the fresh, I don’t know, yeah, okay fine, you know, for our seven female listeners, let us know how many candles is the appropriate amount of candles. Do you ever have candles outside of the bathroom? I guess that’s the question.

Good question. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I get what you’re saying, you know, if you’re going to take a bath, like, you’re, you’re, you’re a chick, right, you’re going to turn on some candles, but all over your house, maybe not, saying probably not, maybe she just, so solo, it’s just the confines of your bathroom, right. Would think, that’s what I’m saying, even, and even that doesn’t make sense, you know, difficult is the light, chicks, it makes sense, yeah, we’re not, we’re not the right, we’re not the right demographic for the C, we’re not the right folks. So then there was a passage in his book where he talks about moving his glove before taking the knife from Charlie, right, and so then he spoke about it, and he says, “You know, I have no conscious memory of doing that, of removing the glove, but obviously I must have, because they found the glove there.” First of all, that, those weren’t driving gloves, were they, were they, like racing gloves, they’re very, they’re high-end leather gloves, but who wears winter gloves, or, like, like snow gloves, LA?

But my thing is, like, why would you, let’s get in the Bronco and go to the house that’s a mile away, let me put my [bleep] driving gloves before we take off, let me put on my, my driving gloves, my hand doesn’t touch the [bleep] peasant steering wheel. It’s kind of weird, because back in, the back then, it wasn’t like a collectible, no, it was just like Bronco, the Bronco, whatever, I gotta pick up. So OJ went on to describe, in detail, the process of getting rid of the evidence, hypothetically, yeah, in detail. So recalled having to dispose of the bloody clothes following the hypothetical killing, I love, he, I recall, why is he using the word recall?

I hate that, you’re recalling a fake thing. He says, “And you had left your keys and wallet in your pants pocket, and you had to go back and get it,” Simpson, this is an interview about the book, he said, Simpson paused, he says, “You know, to be honest, I think, I know that to be true.” Yes, and then Reagan, the interviewer, immediately followed up by asking him whether he believed in heaven and hell, and whether he thought he would see his late wife again. Somay God, these people suck at interviewing. I know. Yes, he replied confidently, “Hey, look, I’ve cursed her, I’ve been to her grave site, and why, what the hell, look at these kids, look at Sydney with no mother, I’ve done that, I’ve done that.” What do you say, I’ve cursed her with, like, like a, like a voodoo, like, right, I’m just reading what he said, or, you know what I mean, [bleep].

So I mean, essentially, “You ruined my life, you, you made me hurt you, you responsible this time, not me,” so essentially that is If I Did It. I mean, that, you know, a majority of the book, he’s going on and on about his relationship with Nicole, and how they loved each other, and how she wanted to get with him even after abusing her and being charged with abuse, spousal AB. It’s called stock, it’s called Stockholm syndrome, it’s like you become sympathetic with your captor. You think, I think that, I think he’s lying, I think that she, that they were in love, no, that, what I think, that she, he keeps saying that she wanted to get back with me, and she was trying, and she was OB me.

I thought, I thought you were talking about, like, cuz it happened so many times, she, and she stayed, you know, because I think she was afraid, and, you know, he had all this power and control, and then she thought that she had no outlets for help, and no one, she couldn’t do anything, so she’s like, “I’m just going to have to take it, I’m [bleep].” Right, and she had kids, she probably worried about the kids, like, is he going to turn on the kids, I leave, he’s going to take it out on them. True, you know, that’s what I thought you were talking about, not after the, after the last thing.

And I mean, a lot of stuff has come out about Nicole, and it seems like she was a bit of a party animal, I’m not saying she’s a saint, but, like, yeah, yeah, she didn’t deserve anything, that, talking about not at all, but I’m, I am just saying that in the book he talks, he really just shits on her the whole, oh, he just, make, he tried to make her look like, he wants to be the victim, yes, of course, something, you’re always like, them, them, them, and she could never, he could never have killed her, because he loves her so much. I, I highly doubt that, you know, but hypothetically, that’s how, I mean, hypothetically, if I were to dispose of the evidence.

Yeah, so now here’s the weird part, okay, he’s saying, so here’s the theory, here’s My theory, I don’t know if it’s my theory, I heard it a couple times around, the, you were told, around the blogs, I was told, is that Charlie was some sort of alter ego of himself. Ooh, that’s a great, like, he literally created a Persona. Well, or that’s his justification of how he goes evil, oh, like Charlie’s like angry, angry juice, angry juice, angry, angry, yeah, he’s like the Hulk, and there’s Bruce Banner, and then there, you know what I mean, you have like Dr Ja, you are, you saying he’s using that to, to kind of, like, justify his hypothetical, or whatever, or you just saying it unconsciously happens, that he has, no, no, it’s his justifier, yeah, or he’s just making it up, and he’s, “I can’t say that I killed her,” or, so here’s my gay, okay, and it’s me, or, here me rage, I don’t know, you know what I mean, I’m kind of just chatting about, that’s really the end of the book, it doesn’t really shed any new, I guess, light, I guess it’s, it does show what he is presenting to us as the possibility of what happens.

So now, okay, so we’re done with the book, really, but why would he put forward this in any way, like, why would he put, put this forward? Well, before you said that they got the rights, and that they were getting the money, I was like, okay, well, yeah, he obviously, he just needs some money, he doesn’t need attention, not especially this kind of attention, I think he wants, I think he’s a narcissist, I think he’s just a [bleep] so years, want to, like, rub it in everybody’s face, how he would get away with it, like if he did, he’s all into the double jeopardy, he’s never going to get charged again, kind of, oh, he knows, he knows he can’t go to prison for it, he knows, and I think he, it’s the only people like that, and you’ll see it too, you’ll see, like, how, like, you know, for, I’ll give you an example, like Madonna, I’m obious, say, Madonna’s different, cuz she’s, she’s obviously a superstar, but she kind of died out for a little bit, and then, like, she comes back, and she’s doing the weird Vanity Fair [bleep] with, like, the Demonic [bleep], like, she’s just trying to be relevant, I feel like, maybe obviously for money, but also it’s just trying to be relevant again.

He was the king of the world, [bleep], Heisman, [bleep], Hall of Fame, and then he was, you know, I want to, I like being famous, some people like being famous, the play, he’s just going to get famous, and then he’s going to start getting endorsements, no, nobody, look at him today, he’s living his [bleep], he’s living his [bleep] best life right now, he’s not getting endorsement, he’s getting fre, he’s getting free meals in country clubs. How’s he hiding the money now, maybe still through his kids? Yeah, I don’t know, we’ll take that up in a bit, we’ll take that in a bit. Yeah, what money?

Yeah, he’s, he’s still broke, living on that pension. I know, but he, those pension for couple, couple margaritas. So do you think that, that what his story and If I Did It brought, any new, maybe that’s how it happened, or do you think he made up everything, do you know what I mean, I think he added, I think, was it actually what happened, I think he probably put in some truth, both. I say no to both, go ahead. I think he put in some truth, but then just Tred to make it even more confusing than it already was, ex, literally trying [bleep], like this Charly [bleep], like that’s just adding, adding confusion, so that it’s kind of, oh, I’m going to hide in the truth, hide in the confusion, hide the truth in the confusion, finally get his confession off, but he’s still, but there’s all these other things, and some people, like, maybe he is innocent, right, cu, he can’t even make up this, he can’t even, he can’t even confess, right, just like even his confessions, he hypothetically recalled this, just, he does, piss me off, he doesn’t understand the definition of recall.

I know, what a slimy, right, piss, actually evil, yeah, it’s evil. I’m definitely going to hypothetically recall this [bleep], I promise you, I hypothetically, I’m, I’m goingon to, like, someone’s GNA, that’s going to be the new line, hypothetically recall, I’m going to [bleep] someone up at work, I’m like, “Well, I hypothetically recall you telling me to do that, but in the reality I don’t recall.” Okay, so we’re gonna fast forward a little bit, now, I’m sure you’ve heard of this before, but he was involved in a robbery in Vegas. Oh yeah, yeah, but did he, like, Rob, you’re probably, yeah, I’m going tell you the whole story, right, I’ll tell you the story, it’s, it’s not like a long story really, but it’s a short story, essentially.

So, and we go back to the beginning, which is all his [bleep] was sold, yeah, moneyy, that’s right, and in an effort to pay his bill, right, now, what’s interesting is all our [bleep], like, I have a football, my garage, it’s worth $6, it’s probably worth, it’s actually probably worth nothing, yeah, yeah, exactly, Facebook Marketplace, $69, just free, just pick up, but you got to realize he was a superstar, and so everything in his garage from his playing days, oh yeah, it’s all worth Mone, is worth tons of money, [bleep], so it became an asset on his balance sheet, every possession, pretty much, pretty much every possession, this is my PA, underwear, cash.

But here’s OJ’s argument, OJ thinks that it’s sentimental. So, your pictures of your kids is sentimental, that’s you, it’s, that’s worth, how much would you pay for your picture of your newborn daughter? Oh, the last one, say that’s it, the last one, I’, I’d steal it, I’, totally, I’, totally Rob. So his argument, so his argument is that it’s more valuable to him, because it’s his, it’s the football that he got the first touchdown on. Oh, I thought, he remember, his argument, he doesn’t have it, I’m legal stand, I’m just telling you what his argument is, he’s an idiot. Yeah, okay, all right, he’s like, know, you, you don’t understand, I know that they already paid money for it, but, but it’s more important to me, I love that, you don’t deserve it, like, I deserve, your money is more important to me, so I’m going to take it, because I care more about your money.

So here’s what he did, is he heard, he heard that a sports memorability dealer was in Vegas who had a bunch of OJ stuff, and he heard that he was trying to sell it, [bleep] fire sale, he set up a, I don’t want to call it a coup, but, like, he set up almost like a sting, where he had a guy pretend that he was a buyer, and he wasn’t, OJ, “I got, I got cash,” but it was somebody who was super into OJ memorabilia, and they wanted to meet him in the hotel, and see all the stuff, in the, on the bed, and, and buy all the [bleep] from him.

Yeah, first things first, folks, don’t sell [bleep] at hotels and, like, invite people into your bedroom. Essentially, what happened is he went in there, and he went in with a guy, a bounce, not a bouncer, but a muscle guy, a security guy, and he went in, and he bars his way into a tiny room, this is OJ, right, yeah, OJ at The Palace Station Hotel in Vegas, and I don’t, if you’ve been to a Vegas cheap hotel room, they’re very tiny, very tiny, okay, don’t really spend a lot of time in there. That’s true, that’s true, so imagine nine, 6 foot dudes, like, in a room that’s the size of, like, this table, yeah, and so one of the guys, which is on OJ’s team, brought a gun, and OJ pumped him up at the beginning, and said, “This is my [bleep], get that gun ready, [bleep].” Yeah, no, and he was like, out of his team, he, he found out that he was a licensed conceal and carry guy, yeah, and Vegas is super Lucy, yeah, so he was, okay good, “So you’re the one who’s going to bring the gun in, you’re going to be the muscle,” and, you know, blah, blah, blah, well, just because he can carry doesn’t mean you can Flash it around and threaten people, that’s right, licensed, yeah, you’re liced, liced to threaten with the gun, so you come with me, and you [bleep], you shoot him, license, license, [bleep].

So, so they entered the room, they entered the hotel room, and Simpson said don’t let anybody leave, then the other guy pulled the gun, so instantly, so you have Simpson’s guy holding a gun, and then Simpson saying don’t leave the room, okay, to, to the, to the seller, to the seller, that’s right, okay, good, so then Simpson said, “Grab it, grab all the stuff,” so they started putting all the stuff in a bag that was all on the table, now, it, half of it was OJ memorabilia, the other half was like Pete Rose autographs, oh D, I want thatch, other stuff, I love Pete Rose, so no longer, it also then no longer became his own stuff, now it’s like gr, larsy, now he’s steal, Grand Theft, you know what I mean, and all that sort of thing, okay, good, Joe Montana stuff, and they just put it into pillowcases, and, all in all, it was a six minute thing, it happened in six minutes, and then he left, woohoo, that was crazy.

Oh, he like, yeah, to say, we have, like, a witness who’s, it was OJ did it, and little did they, little did OJ know, somebody had a recorder recording the whole room. Oh [bleep], it’s lit, like he probably announces himself, “I am, laal, James Simpson, give me my memorabilia,” this is not a witness thing, this is on camera, on camera, yeah, and video or audio, probably even in the hallways, they’ve got cameras too, so it’s like him leaving with goons, and he’s like probably smiling. Yes, so he denied everything, like, “I’m responsible for it, but I wasn’t carrying the pillowcase,” now, I recall hypothetically “I wasn’t responsible, look, I went to have a conversation, those large gentlemen followed me into the room, I did not instruct anyone to.” Yeah, so, okay, so that’s basically what happened.

I mean, so, so I watch a whole, do arrested, right, then he, jail, he got arrested for this, right, and so then he went to court, and at first it was, okay, this is an assault charge or whatever, but then the judge found, they found recording of it, and they’re like, nope, and so then you got OJ telling the guy, ahead of time, on record, saying, “Hey, you bring the gun in, you be the muscle,” then they walk in, he pulls the gun, and he says, “Don’t leave the room.” Wait, wait, wait, so, so the recording, I thought you said the recording was in the room, audio recording.

Oh, of both, everything’s recorded, and it’s Vegas, I know, and it’s, so it’s everything’s recorded. Anyways, walking to the hallways, walking, then they, they come out with [bleep] pillowcases full, [bleep], of all the places to do this, you do it in Vegas. I know, it’s like might as well do it on live television. I would, I literally, I don’t even pick my nose in Vegas, it’s like they’re watching, eye, inste, it’s like I win like three hands in a row, and I’m like start sweating, I’m like, [bleep], they’re on to me, you, you win three, and you think they’re going to take you out in the back somewhere, like beat you up, he’s won $100, kill him, kick him out.

Okay, so October 3rd, 2008, this is the transcript, the verdict, the sentencing, by judge Jackie glass, and she was a no [bleep], no hold bar, you know, chick, basically, sounds hardcore. Jackie glass sounds a [bleep] superhero. I’m not going to read the whole thing, but I’m going to read most of the parts, and she just laid, she’s like, first things first, OJ, [bleep], you, him, yeah, first of all, you guilty for Nicole. Before we get started, I mean, pretty, read it. Okay, so, “Earlier in this case, at a bail hearing, I asked, said, to Mr Simpson, I didn’t know if he was arrogant or ignorant, or if he was both, and during the trial and through this proceeding, I got that answer, it’s both.” [Bleep].

“Now, there’s still questions about whose stuff it is, I think that’s still in dispute.” “You thought it was yours, your Council said that over and over again to me during the trial, and now during the sentencing, as well as you, the tapes, however, in this case, indicate me that you didn’t want all of those items to fall into the hands of the Goldman’s.” O, oh, so, wow, that’s even Shader, as long as they don’t get paid. “Yeah, you were heard on the tape making reference to them, the Goldman, as gold diggers, so you put your group together, you went into palis asan hotel to get those items back, and what you didn’t know, and also, Mr Stewart, who’s another guy, who’s part of his crew, yeah, you didn’t know, was it was planning to be taped, the event was taped, phone calls were taped, conversations were taped, they had videotape of you going in, videotape of you going out, and the party afterwards where you attended was taped.” Everything in this case was [bleep], you took, right before it’s done.

“Everything in this case was taped, and it’s your own words, Mr Simpson, your own words, that can be heard throughout those events that have brought you to here, to this seat, in my courtroom, cuz we heard it all, and what came out on the table.” AP said to me, and to the jury, that the evidence in this case was overwhelming. “It was overwhelming, how often, as a judge, do I sit here and I listen to a trial, and hear everything laid out for me to be able to hear, it’s very rare, in your own words, yeah, the event in question, the room at the hotel, where I went to that room, and it was a little bitty room, there were a lot of big guys in that little bitty room, and when I heard the tape, that was not a, oh, just give me my stuff back, I want my stuff, that was, nobody leave this room, jacking, you stick up, that was a actually a very violent event, and I don’t care what Beardsley says now, or what for Mong,” which these are the other guys, “I know what beard Ley says immediately afterwards when he called the police, we heard that too, that it was a violent event, guns were brought, gun, at least one gun was drawn, the potential for harm to occur in that room was tremendous, and I don’t know, I don’t know how fortunate you consider yourself to, at this moment, but really, truly, if the gun had gone off and bullets started flying, not only could one of you in the room have been hurt, but some poor tourist walking down the hallway or a hotel worker could have been hurt, that is why we have rules in the state of Nevada, and say, you can’t take back your own property by force, anybody else’s property by force, you can’t do it, there’s no self-help, you cannot do it, but you did do it.” I mean, Shad, there staty, you can, what the [bleep], I thought that was like a, a national rule.

I know, that was good for her, yeah, Jackie. Okay, so, “Then, after the event, all of a sudden the realization hits you, and there are phone calls made, in those phone calls you say there was no gun, there was no gun, there was no gun.” Mr Simpson made those phone calls saying there was no gun. How do they get these phone calls? T, Dam, they got [bleep]. Yeah, I know, they had everything, everything, everything. I know, it’s like technology, move wild. “Well, why in the heck would he be calling anybody to say that there was no gun?” These calls are random person, hello, there, no, G, yeah, except for the fact that he realized later there was a gun, and oops, I might be in trouble now, hypothetically.

Yeah, no, and then again at the party, “At the party, the laughter, the joking, did you see the look on his face, haaha, isn’t this funny, you knew what was going on there, you knew, I am actually surprised that I heard from you, Mr Simpson, I believe that there wasn’t going to be a statement from you.” So he did do a statement, and he said, “I’m sorry,” he was almost crying. Oh please, come on now, alligator tears. He was saying, “I thought it was my stuff, and I came, and I went back there for my stuff, and I didn’t mean no harm.” And he didn’t mean no harm to you, sorry, he got caught, and he was using his acting skills from back in the day.

Yeah, Norberg, yeah, yeah, “I have to tell you now, it was much more than stupidity, it’s rare that I’ve seen somebody talking to me at a sentencing about a men’s Criminal Intent, it doesn’t matter, you went to the room, you took guns, meaning you, in the group, you used Force, you took property, whether it was yours or somebody else’s, in this state that amounts to robbery with the use of a deadly weapon, whether it’s you having the gun, or M Clinton having the gun, or Mr Alexander having the gun.” But one thing that’s not super clear to me, they keep referencing that that property is his, it’s not his, like, didn’t it get auctioned off, he was saying that he believes it’s still his.

I believe that your house is my house, that’s his defense, yeah, that’s his, but I mean, that’s what I believe, no, but it would be a picture of you, no, no, but we, we were talking about, like, a football, weren’t we, yeah, but it’s a signed autograph, but it was sold for cash, so it’s not just saying, it’s not saying, I know, but it’s not just saying it’s his house, it’s like a picture of you signed, and you’re like, “That’s mine,” yeah, but that was like, I would, I would say, if it was my house before, and then it went to foreclosure, and he bought it, it’s a little different when it’s literally a picture of you, no, it’s not, or a football with your signature on it, that literally be like, it’s actually the house thing that, saying, is actually more, “Raised my kids in that house, I lived in the house for 20 years, it got for closed, all my [bleep] memories are in that house, My Blood Sweat and Tears are in that,” oh, a footall, I’m just saying, no, his hand, yeah, I guess, yeah, you know, sh, you shits, I took that, give it to, I, there’s got to be DNA somewhere, piss all over these walls, there got to be DNA.

Che, the, so she says, it doesn’t matter, you went to the room, you took the gun, that’s the thing, meaning you, in the group, you used Force, you took property, she does say earlier, she’s like, “I don’t know who owns the stuff,” right, remember she was saying, the buyer, the, the, the seller, I know, but nobody has, it’s kind of like black market, you don’t know who owns it, like, there’s no proof. I thought I went to auction, I thought it was an auction. I know, but, but we don’t have proof, she didn’t have proof that was there. Okay, he had it, sure, semantics, yeah, yeah, saman, [bleep] details, like, “When I first started this trial and I talked to the jury when we had the whole panel in, I stated to the group that if this was, if they were here because they wanted to punish Mr Simpson for what happened previously, then this was not the case for them, and I meant that, as a judge in this case, I’m not here to sentence Mr Simpson for what happened in his life previously in the criminal justice system, as a judge who presides in this courtroom every day, and over trials, hundreds of Trials, during the six years I have been here, I have great respect for the criminal system, I am part of it, and as a judge who has taken jury vers, verdicts, for years, I “Respect the verdicts of my juries, I have to respect what happened in the case 13 years ago, the jury decided, there are many people that disagreed with that verdict, but that doesn’t matter to me, what matters to me is the state brought charges, the trial was conducted, and evidence Was Heard, testimony received, the jury deliberated, and they reached a verdict, and I have to respect the verdict as well, there’s nothing more that’s going to happen here other than the sentence for you, Mr Stewart, and the sentence for you, Mr Simpson, is based on the evidence that occurred in this case, I’m not here to try and cause any retribution or any payback for anything else, I want to be perfectly clear to everybody, because if I did, then I wouldn’t be doing my job as a judge who presides over a courtroom in this jurisdiction, I’m sorry.” I just believe, I know, I, I just think, it’s why even say, why is it even necessary to say that, he’s literally, all the evidence on the universe, it’s so unnecessary, you’re literally admitting to you on camera.

I know, so let me, let me read what she sent to you, and then we’ll see if we believe that paragraph of what she said. Okay, so Simpson was found guilty on all 12 charges, damn, he was handcuffed, reprimanded, 33 years in prison. To prison, I mean, he obviously didn’t serve that, no, no. Oh okay, so I just want to play out a scenario, Jorge goes to Vegas, he goes to the flamingo. The Flaming, why can’t be, why do I got to go to Flamingo, because he went to, I can’t afford the MGM, I got to go to, sorry, Cesar is out of your price range, brother, to the flamingo.

I’m not a peasant, you ever been to Vegas? I’m not, it has nothing to do with, wh haate, has to do with the fact that he went to a place called Palace Station. I’ve never heard of it, I’ve never heard of it, you heard of it? Yeah, yeah, okay, so I’m just trying to pick a an out of the way side, he goes to the Golden Nugget, tiny room, yes, $79.99, you know what I mean, tiny room, tiny room, free buffet. Okay, so J goes, and he goes, and he’s trying to get some [bleep] back that’s his, that he thinks is, oh yeah, sombreros, okay, and he goes with, he goes with Shawn, and Sean’s got a conceal, right, he goes in there, like, “Sean, I’m gonna ask you to do something, you can’t ask me any questions, we’re g to [bleep] some people, die, die, let’s go.” I’m GNA call you, I’m gonna call you, AC, cing, I’m like, I’m like, you’re buying the, you’re buying the tickets.

All right, no, so he walks in, he walks in, and he goes on the cameras, and he walks in, and he meets the guy, you guys walk into the room, and you, instead of going, “I’m going to buy this [bleep],” you say, “Give it to me, I’m going to take it,” and he pulls out the gun, “You ain’t getting out of here,” right, and then you, se, stuff, and all the [bleep] in the pillow cases, then you walk out, you go to a party, game’s over, right, that’s it. Yeah, you get arrested, what do you get, as far as, like, sentencing, no, just, do you get 33 years, no, we defin, I def, that’s what I’m saying, definitely don’t get, you don’t get 33 years, you get four.

No wait, this, well, here’s the other thing, like, when you pull out a gun it goes up in a whole another level. Toally, I don’t know what the law is there, like, when you pull out a gun, partial, partial, but there was also, they considered kidnapping, of course, cuz he said you can’t leave the room, yeah, and, and it’s robbery, and it’s the deadly, deadly weapon, so that’s, that’s why, then they keep going, you, that’s why I think I’m not getting 33, but maybe I’ll get, yeah, five, eight. You’re right, jge would have got 60 years, he got light. All I’m saying is, all I’m saying is justice is supposed to be blind.

True, right, so her paragraph here is saying it had nothing to do with 13 years earlier. Okay, well, here, here, so he got the Max, Max, Max, Max of all the Maxes. No, yeah, they get Max, Max, but, like, you know, they were putting people away for, like, having a quarter of weed for, like, 10, they put them away from 10 years, yeah, right, I’m like, is that really worth, I mean, come on, like, it’s a little crazy, right, so I’m saying, like, the system, the system is broken, and broken, it’s definitely broken, but, like, in her defense, I mean, he went there with full intent, with a gun, blah, BL, end up with somebody getting shot, yes, I do think it is a little weird, what makes me think she did, cuz she made that statement.

I know, it’s so unnecessary, there’s so much evidence, every evidence possible, and then she’s like, “I’m not doing this because of what he did.” Why you even say that, like, no one would think that, he’s on camera, he’s on video, he’s, he’s on audio, phone calls, people would think that, I would think that, if I was judging her, and, “Hey, you gave this guy a full sentencing,” yeah, and, like, you, you, oh, oh, so she said that because of the, because the, she knew she was Max, you drop the hammer on him, oh, maybe that’s why she did, but that being said, I still think, like, yeah, she pressed it all the way to the ceiling, she pressed it all the way, she could have left that out and just given the full sentence anyway.

No, I think, I think I’m not mad at her, I’m not mad, I’m not mad at her, not mad at, I do think she pumped it up, I do think she Juiced it up, maybe, maybe, maybe that wasn’t totally true, the paragraph, it’s, you would, about it, it’s like, you know, it’s like, hypothe, she, she’s just saying, hypothetically, hypthetically, when the juice run [bleep], I barely remember anything, can’t squeeze the juice, when the juice go, can’t squeeze the juice, ju, so fed up. So he was convicted, he went to prison, but he, he would serve, like, what, so he served 9 years, wow, he served nine years, longer than, on octob 1, I thought, October 1st, 2017, he was released, the juice is loose.

So then, then the juice moved to Florida. Well, he was, he was already living here, no, you know, but it was, he was also living in Vegas, bankruptcy, he was living in Vegas too, and I don’t know, but he officially moved there, and now, now he’s in Orlando area. We’re going there, that’d be weird if you run into him. Oh my gosh, you, those of you guys don’t know, we’re like in the Tampa Bay area, I might trip him, like, it’s around here, Hulk, Hulk Hogan lives here, yeah, and we run into him, oh dude, I run into him multiple times, yeah, multi, so imagine, imagine if you run into OJ, OJ, but Hulk is not OJ, no, no, I’m just saying, I still like Hulk, hul, Hulk is a dream boat, seriously.

So, so you’re like shopping in Publix, and you run into OJ, what do you do? I don’t know, just, like, walk by, and drop, just, like, mumble, like, “Kill her.” I, I, dude, I do feel, I do feel like I would be like that guy, like, like, yeah, I’d be like, I, I hate you, he’d be a little, ER, like, my son wants to say something to you, I hate you, Mr, although, but it wouldn’t do anything, I don’t know what to say. Do it all the time, you know, I would really imagine, like, how much, yeah, how much he goes through that, go, still, Eric would just text us and be like, “I just saw,” he would take a picture, picture, I would not post it on any social media, I would send it to you guys.

I know, I’d go live on, like, Instagram, be like, “Look who I just run into,” like, look at, look at, look at the, found in public, clickbait manness, assaulted by OJ, like, egging him on, just to, like, know, hit me. Okay, so remember at the beginning, we went over a poll of how people believe? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so as of, as of 2017, 83% of Americans believe that he was guilty, both black and white, just 83%. Yeah, but it’s black or white, I mean, at the beginning you said black, and then you said a white, you know, two differentes, that’s the only poll I was able.

Curious, though, it would be curious, who would be curious, but the point is everybody, but the point is, is that it happened, and it was low, lower, mhm, yeah, and then over time now more people believe that he just did it. Well, yeah, I’m sure, I’m sure that If I Did It, but didn’t, like, help the cause. Whole life, no seriously, yeah, the hypothetically, uh, did not assist. So we’re going, we’re going, we’re going to put up our own poll, yeah, on spottify, you guys will be able to see. We should do it on this one, I mean, this is, we just, we just talked about the poll.

Okay, that’s true, right, all right, we’re going to do it on this one, I like it. Yeah, we’ll do it, obviously we’ll probably do it after episode four though, when we get in the, that’s what he was just saying, the, say, do it with this one, because we’re talking about the poll right now, he wasn’t listening, I was texting at the time, sorry, I was getting a very important. Wait, what are we, are we do OJ, let’s do it, but on, when the juice, when the juice getting tested, the juice don’t know what’s happen, you squeeze it, squeeze it too high, squeeze, squeeze, juice, I got no juice, that for you, God, all right, there you go.

Thanks for tuning in, guys, we’ll see you three. What about the next one? So episode four is, episode four is all the conspiracies, and the, the kind of finale I do have, I do have, like, I put together what are bullet points of why he did it, mhm, and then a couple things of, like, 10 why he did it, and, like, why maybe not, well, no, like, no, no, the things in the trial, like why, yeah, what they [bleep], what they couldn’t prove, what are the holes, what caus the Reas out, yes, exactly, there you go. Yeah, and then there’s about, there’s about four conspiracies that are worth talking about, there’s one that’s really stupid, but the three other ones are semi, okay.

Yeah, I think it’s probably, it’s probably good to do, because I, I, I truly, I think the Reasonable Doubt thing is, is smart, like, you can’t just, like, you can’t, because you can’t take emotion and stuff into these trials, because you get like Salem witch trial [bleep], well, she didn’t want to date me, witch burner, you know, kill her, but, like, they just, I think they [bleep], they had, they just [bleep] a lot of things up. Yeah, oh, very true, one of these days I’d love to learn about the double jeopardy thing. Well, they did that because, I don’t know why, I don’t remember, actually, I used to know, but I don’t remember why, they about that.

It reminds me of that movie, it’s called Double Jeopardy, there, a movie called Ashley Jud Jones, it’s called Double Jeopardy, but then she, but doesn’t she kill him, though, cu, then she can’t be charged for it, cuz, yeah, she kills him again, she kills him for real, she’s so hot in that. Could be true, tune in next time, guys, next episode, okay, guys, thanks a bunch, all right guys, night, night. Hey guys, hope you enjoyed the show, if you want to reach out to us, please email us at infothe conspiracy podcast.com. You can check us out on Instagram at a conspiracy podcast. Also, don’t forget to subscribe, you can catch a new podast almost every week, just hit the little subscribe button at the top, it’s a plus sign.

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