A.m. So it was a red eye to Beijing, it’s, it’s kind of like a basic red eye from that time. The aircraft was scheduled to arrive at 6:30 a.m. It’s a [bleep] basic 6-hour red eye. Jesus. Yeah. On board we’re 227 passengers, 12 Malaysian crew members. The initial phase of the flight was uneventful. The aircraft climbed to its cruising altitude of 35,000 ft, made routine communications with air traffic control. Yeah, so we’re going to go through the timeline. Okay. A little bit of what happened here. Yeah, walk us through. 12:41 a.m., all tracking systems are working as the Boeing Tri 7 takes off from Malaysian Capital, Kuala Lumpur.

At 10:07 a.m., one of the plane’s communication systems sends what turns out to be the last transmission. According to the Malaysia CEO, Malaysian Airlines CEO, it said it showed nothing unusual. The 107 transmission showed a normal routing all the way to Beijing. Now, I did print out some things for you both, right? And it’s this one. Let me see this. And I printed out two, because there’s, this is like, okay, this is the track, so the, the, the picture on the right, and we’ll post this on our Patreon. Okay, uh, the picture on the right is the track. Okay, is this the track? Or, okay, so they’re going, no, they’re going from here.

Don’t look at the dotted line, look at the, they’re going from here, and I think this is where, like, they’re supposed to be going. This way to go to, to the Beijing, and I think what happens is, like, they, like, have contact there, and then, yeah, they end up getting contact here, which is like way the [bleep] off course. So we’re going to go through this, right? But now that you have the, the map, you have some, some, some basic understanding of where it is in the world, and that sort of thing helps. And just so we can kind of describe the last, civilian, uh, so the last contact is like, what we’re talking about, 107, east of Thailand, so they’re like in the, in the ocean, like, South China Sea.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the aircraft communications addressing and reporting system is on board, a computer that collects information. It collects information about the aircraft. Is this, is this, uh, the black box? What they call the black box? The black box records all data that happen, so that way they can, like, when they retrieve it, they can see, they can see all the, the operating systems, like, it’s pretty much, it’s like a, imagine taking like an instant replay of everything that occurred. Okay. But system, and also, like, records, and it, it has like a microphone and records, it records all the communications, all, like, all systems, all communications are just recorded there.

And does it have a GPS? Yes. Okay, it does. So you can find it. Okay, so if a plane crashes, it has GPS so you can then find the. All right, so, so there’s one part, it’s called the ACAR, which is the aircraft communications addressing and reporting system, right? And it measures thousands of data points, and it sends the info via satellite to the airline, to the manufacturer, um, etc. And, and, you know what I mean, that, that just constantly is the old ACARS, the old ACARS. So at 1:19 a.m., someone in the cockpit makes a voice check-in with air traffic controller, as the plane is apparently leaving Malaysian airspace, and it enters Vietnamese airspace.

So, be like, “yo, we’re cool.” Yeah, we’re, we’re coming in. So just imagine there’s a bubble of who’s in charge of what airspace. Yeah, so, like, they’re going into, like, the airspace now, that’s right. Yeah, uh, initial investigations indicated it was the co-pilot who said the following: “all right, good night,” and that was the final, those were the finals from the cockpit. The phrase “good night” is a radio, uh, terminology used by pilots when executing a handover from one airspace to another. Oh, okay, interesting. Okay, it’s, it’s a “night and night,” yeah, little change over from one pod to the next, baby. It’s kind of like a pleasantry, like a, yeah, all right, night night, now, to move over.

Yeah, the plane’s transponder then stopped at 1:21 a.m., and it stopped communicating, sent electronic messages from the plane, which were considered squawks, to a radar system about the flight number, altitude, speed, and heading, so they can track it. So, like, they’re like, everything is hitting, pinging, they’re like, “we know where every flight is, where they’re going, what’s happening.” Now, uh, with the transponder then turned off, and the transponder was off, and now the plane is flying blind from the ground’s point of view. I’d be interested to know, just interject, like, yeah, if that is something that has to be turned off manually, or if that, if it does, is known that it can turn off at any given time?

Question. It’s a great question. It does. Oh, it has to be manual, it has to be manually turned off. So Jacar was like, Shazam, Jafar, Jafar, Jacar, what is the name, something, whatever, pilot, co-pilot, co-pilot. So here’s the concept, is, say, is that it was turned off, but why? But just because it was turned off doesn’t mean it alerts somebody. Oh, they would have just have to notice, like, oh, the transponder off, somebody would have to notice it. It doesn’t set off some, like, alarm, like, “transponder off.” It was simultaneous to transferring over from one airspace to another. Okay, right, so that is, therein lies one of the biggest problems of this whole mystery, is that at the same time, and they’re going into new airspace, turn it off.

There you go. I see, that is kind of weird. So weird. So just imagine you’re the original airspace and you’re tracking this thing, this bird, and, oh, so when they go into new airspace, they’re not even, it wouldn’t even alert, they, it’s, yeah, and they’re like, “yeah, you don’t worry about it anymore,” you’re like, “okay,” yeah, Malaysia’s like, “you’re off our,” yeah, “you’re in the new territory, their problem.” Okay, so then they moved, they moved, and then at 1:22 a.m., the Thailand military radar is tracking the plane signal, but it disappears. What? How the [bleep] can a giant, like, I can’t, you can’t get like an F-22 Raptor is not going to [bleep] disappear, the goddamn, like, thing, it’s a $60 million weapon of doom.

So then the tie radar at, which is 6 minutes later, the tide radar station in southern, s Sani province picks up an unknown aircraft, what they thought was 370. Okay, okay, okay, so between this, the plane appears to have changed course in that time frame, and what you, on the thing, yeah, so it’s basically traveling northeast, but then this is showing that it started traveling southwest. Was it pretty much like west, like west southwest? Now, keep in mind, keep in mind, when, right after the investigation, when it disappeared, they didn’t know this. Oh, for sure, they probably had to, like, everyone’s got to get their heads together with the, when’s the, okay, when’s the last communications you had, where’s the last time, this just data that we have now.

Okay, because of, then, now, look at that turn. I mean, that is like almost a full 180. Have you ever done that in a plane? Have you ever done that like in a car? It’s, it’s like a U-turn, imagine, it’s almost a U-turn, it’s like, yes, can you imagine, and what, what do you say, because, like, you know you’re gonna be turning for a while. It’s almost, it’s almost a full, yeah, it’s almost full. You, you ever made, no, have you ever had to, like, um, your, like, the landing pattern’s full and you got to like circle around? Yes, yeah, didn’t I tell you guys I got stuck in going to Chicago?

Remember, like, when was it, November or whatever, yeah, and then we were just like circling up there, you’re just going, it’s like you’re in a NASCAR, it’s like so annoying, I literally, I’m like puckered up, like, when that happens, I’m like puckered up. Oh, yeah, like, actually, I don’t like this, like, this, we’re circling over a [bleep] city, I hate. Oh, I’m the worst, I just go to sleep, man. I’m instantly asleep. Oh, in, oh, dude, wake me up when, like, yeah, like I might watch a movie, but 90% chance I’ll fall asleep. If it’s international, I get drunk. Yeah, and then I fall asleep.

Okay, well, I, I, I got last, last international, don’t do international, me and Eric over here just going to Chicago. Maybe, maybe we get to go to Texas, right? Carolina. Yeah, guys travel way more than I do. I usually, it, one trip a year. Okay, so the ACAR system that we went over was supposed to transmit every half hour. That seems like a long time. It does. I’d be like every, like, couple minutes. But it was supposed to transmit at 1:37 a.m. Okay, but it didn’t. Didn’t, yeah. So the, now, this was supposed to transmit to the next airspace, which I guess let’s say it’s Thailand.

Yeah, so, but, but Thailand doesn’t know, do they, cuz they just had entered before? They, right, exactly. Yeah, okay, got it. Okay, so we’re going to fast forward, 2:15 a.m., through, the Malaysian plane, uh, it’s not transmitting information, so it’s basically gone. Radar on the ground or elsewhere can still detect a plane that’s in the air. Yeah, that’s like this unidentified plane. Yeah, but it’s just randomly kind of going, right? And military radar track the plane as it passed over a small island in the Strait of Malacca. At this point, the plane was hundreds of miles off course. Yeah, and I’m, I’m curious too, cuz, like, at what point does, like, the, like, the Taiwanese, I mean, the Thailand, like, military be like, uh, do something, scramble some [bleep] jets?

Like, imagine, just imagine, like, in the US, there’s like some unidentified plane, and they’re like, “well, let’s just wait,” they’d be like, “get [bleep], get them in the air,” and, like, find out what the [bleep] this thing is. That’s part of this whole conspiracy of, this is like, why didn’t, there’s just a random 777. Throw some. Well. They didn’t even know it, was a, they just, like, thought it was a random aircraft. True, like, scramble the jets, boys, it could be Milly, they don’t know at that. Yeah, I would get the [bleep], I would get some planes in the air. So, uh, this at 2:15 a.m., this was the last time that any civilian or military radar was known to track, track the aircraft.

Yeah, but, like, I’m, I’m sorry, I’m having a really hard time understanding how military radar can lose a [bleep] giant, a condominium with wings. It’s like, how the hell did they lose it? It’s, it’s hard to, I mean, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll unpack this later, but, like, it’s hard to, hard to know, because again, it’s the greatest aviation mystery that’s occurred. Why, how did they lose the? Do tell me, Eric, I know, come on, answer it. So, so the Malaysian military, over its raw radar data to the US and British officials, apparently, setting aside concerns about sensitive military intelligence, so they just said, “we need help.” Yeah, take it, we don’t know what to do.

Yeah, we don’t, we don’t know what’s happening, and, and, and they quote, as saying, “we don’t know much,” about the Malaysian military. It appears that Malaysia was providing an interpretation of the analysis and not the raw data. So now they are handing over the raw data. Yeah, like, “let us inspect it.” Yeah, exactly. 2:40 a.m., Malaysia Airlines says it’s, it’s learned that there’s a plane missing from radar, and this is a major part of this story, is how [bleep] up the Malaysian, and the Malaysian government, handled this situation. Yeah, I mean, it was, what, that was like over an hour later, they’re like, “oh, absolutely, where did that, where did that plane go?” Absolutely.

It’s supposed to report every 30 minutes, but, yeah, now, and take a pause on this whole thing. Now I’m going to put you in the perspective of being, there’s stories, and you saw the documentary too, which is, there’s stories of, like, the, the dad who, uh, the kids, dude, it, lost kid and the wife, it was heartwrenching. That’s the worst. And not, he had, he had to stay for work, and they were like going to the, what, D was [bleep]. Yeah. And on top of it, to this day, you don’t know what happened to them. No answers. That’s the worst part. I would be a [bleep], the, like, there, and the thing is, like, they’re, say, they, they haven’t found the, there’s no wreckage, no nothing.

We found wreckage, they did. Oh, wow, wow, okay, I miss, I missed that part. Okay, but we don’t know, there’s no, we don’t know there’s not an answer, there’s not a, exactly, conclusion. And you would want, you would want some sort of, thank you, here comes the closure. So, 2:40 a.m., Malaysian air traffic controllers told Malaysia Airlines at 2:40 that the flight was missing, officially. Okay, so that’s how long it took, yeah, officially missing. So during this time, the airline sourced every communication possible to that flight to locate its whereabouts before declaring that it was lost aircraft. During this period of uncertainty, Malaysia needed to establish facts by contacting other air traffic controllers and aircraft flying within the same route.

So it was just like a cluster [bleep], and so they waited that long to go, to confirm it, to own up. I think it’s also to own up and be like, “we lost plane,” and it’s also, we’re so used to, like, our way of travel, like, within the United States, cuz the, the FA, the, the FAA is, it’s one of the most highly regulated, you can pull it up on your phone, you can see all the planes up there. Now it’s one of the, it’s one of the most heavily regulated industries in America, so we’re used to like this [bleep], yeah, like Overlord type viewpoint.

Is that not the same? I don’t know, I’m, I’m assuming it’s Malaysia. Can you pull up, like, say, “Hor is coming and we gotta pick,” I thought it was actually global, I don’t know. I’m pretty, seeing that map that I’m talking about, and I, maybe, but clearly, but, no, hear me out, like, I know this is a stupid conversation, but I’m picking Jorge up from the airport in Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur, I’m picking him up. Okay, follow, he’s on flight 23, he’s on flight 123, can I look up Jorge and where he’s? I have no idea, I really cannot answer that question. No, I don’t think so.

Yeah, I don’t think, I don’t think so. But I had question, what, what was the weather like? Wonderful question, that’s a good question. Uh, I don’t, I don’t think it was [bleep]. There’s no, there’s no, so probably it was like, there’s no data that shows that it was like bad weather, everything sort of weird. Yeah, I think it was fine. So at 3:45 a.m., Malaysian Airlines issues an alert, and it issued a code red, and it alerted that the plane was missing from their radar. Uh, it declared that a crisis requires immediate deployment of emergency response plans. Uh, it said it took about an hour to issue the alert, because it was trying to verify the plane and/or lost location of it.

Okay, so by 6:30 a.m., which is 3 hours later, it should have arrived in Beijing. Yeah, that’s the land time. Yeah, yeah. By 7:24 a.m., that’s when Malaysian Airlines announced that it’s disappeared, and they did so on Facebook. I love [bleep] Facebook. I actually remember, like, in the morning there was, there was news about it, not the Facebook thing, but, like, I saw it was on the news, and then they were, they were starting to report on it already. Yeah, I love that. They, why would they announce it via Facebook? It seems so, like, and then people think that were, they’re like insensitive, me, like, they, like, put it on, like, MySpace, like, I’m like, come on, no one’s, like, what.

So at 8:11 a.m., the CEO revealed that a satellite tracked the plane more than seven hours after the takeoff, and they, they didn’t provide details on the satellite tracking, but it appears that high up orbiters above the ocean detected the plane, as the satellite, or satellites, attempted a series of what’s called handshakes in the, uh, the world of, of, uh, it’s basically, it’s a, it’s a program called Inmarsat, which is a British satellite communication company that provides global mobile services. And basically, so just imagine, like, let’s say you’re on Hulu, and you’re watching a show, and you’re watching it for 17 hours, and they’re like, and then they pause and they go, “hey, are you still watching?” Yeah, like, you there, bro?

So it’s a similar scenario, where they will, the satellite will be like, “hey, every hour,” they’ll be like, “let’s make sure the, the communication has receive,” and they call it a handshake. Okay, well, the handshake, like, initiate ping or some [bleep] like that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it’s like letting you know that you’re there, that’s right, “I’m here,” that’s right, like a touch. Yeah, I’m here. Now, this is very important in this photo, the satellite, okay, and so right now, where we’re at here, is there’s radar lost, everybody. Yeah, there’s no radar, radar’s done, forget about it. But the satellite above creates this, uh, communication bubble.

Yeah, yeah, and they say, which is pretty big, it goes from, like, Africa to Malaysia basically. That’s right. And so what they say is that they receive the handshake. Oh, so someone had to initiate the handshake, or at least they were still alive. Okay, yeah, there was some sort of, there, some activity, there was an activity happening on the very basic level. Yeah, it’s like a system’s like, “hey, yes, we’re here, we’re,” I’ve acknowledged, but that has to happen manually, like, that’s a person that does that, I’m assuming. I’m assuming it’s, I’m assuming it’s like some sort of communication system that’s like, “oh, yeah, we’re here,” but the overall point of it is, is that the electronics system was still live, because eight hours later.

Okay, oh, wow, so they’re still flying. They were still flying. Holy [bleep]. So this is the bubble, and we’re going to put, eventually ran out of [bleep] fuel, correct, and that’s part of it, right, is when they run out of fuel. Yeah, yeah, and you can see that the theories are which way they went. Oh, okay, they went there, and then it just go out into the [bleep] abyss. That’s right. So this is the, the bubble of the satellite for Inmarsat. Yeah, and let me just kind of describe this, like, if you’re, if you go west from Thailand towards Africa, which is this bubble that we’re going to show, if you’re on Patreon, right, but anyways, you’ll see, like, it, there’s nothing but huge land of, or huge space of just ocean.

That’s right. And so essentially what they found was a ping along this corridor. What. Oh, oh, what, but they don’t know if it was this one or this one. Oh, that’s a big difference. I know, it’s massive difference, thousands of miles difference, like, what the [bleep]. So just imagine all systems are shut off manually. Yeah, and this is all that’s left, tracking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, all right, just to kind of describe the, the, the distance that we’re looking at here, so at the bottom, you have any idea what these islands are? Or, well, it’s like outside of Australia. Yeah, it’s like west of Australia, but then towards the top, that’s like Russia.

Russia? Like, that’s how far, that’s like how far the distance is, it’s like somewhere in here, they’re like Earth. Yeah, somewhere on Earth, flying still active. Now, I, I just want to, I’m also going to take another pause here and just be like, this is, of all the topics that we’ve taken up, aside from 9/11, and maybe JFK, this has the most content. Oh, sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. Wow. So, because it’s like 2014, it’s not like, you know, it’s not like it was in the 60s, and it’s a strange history, and, like, people dedicated their lives to this, they still dedicate their lives to trying to find these people and what happened.

So, point I’m trying to make is there’s more data that you can dive into. Yes, there’s. You can go way deep. Yeah, this is a bridge, bridge, have three notes of the Inmarsat satellite, three pages. You know whether or not we want to go through that now. Yeah, we don’t necessarily need to, but the point being is that Inmarsat is the company that had the satellite that does this long range pings, essentially. But in what they found, is they didn’t find the plane, but they found a registered satellite ping, and it provided the only clue to afterwards, because in the radar shut down very early.

Yeah, but later on, eight hours later, eight hours later, they found a ping. Okay, tracking. Yeah, so it’s like the only, it’s not super helpful, because the area is so huge. I know, but it does, it does. If you were to do a search team, and this is the problem of the Malaysian government, if you were to do a search team, and you were searching here, true, yeah, but you had a ping that was like complete here, yeah, it [bleep] it all up. So at that time, Kuala Lumpur Aeronautical Rescue Coordination Center was activated. The initial search efforts focus on the South China Sea, which is where they were, where the transponder turned off.

By the end of the first day, more than 40 aircraft were out there. Multiple nations were involved, even Australia helped with the search, because they’re right there, right there. Yeah, in the days following the disappearance, the search focused on the Gulf of Thailand as well, South China Sea. Suspicion was raised when it was revealed that two passengers boarded the flight with stolen passports. What, sketchy, that adds a little wrinkle to this. Yeah, now, they were discovered to be asylum seekers, meaning they were trying to, yeah, they were not, they’re not like trying to be murderers, they’re just trying to escape, yeah, their country. Uh, they get a pass.

Yeah, allow, on March 15th, Malaysian prime minister announced that the satellite data from Inmarsat indicated two potential flight paths, south MH north. Okay. Yeah, phase two, they focus, the shift, or they shifted to the southern Indian Ocean, one of the most remote areas of Earth, which is essentially like here, south. Yeah, uh, four and a half million square miles. Jesus, that’s ridiculous. I’m sorry, four and a half million square kilometers. Oh, wow, so it’s about three million square miles. A lot, same, same, same, same, same. In late March, uh, Australian authorities began coordinating the search effort. Aerial and naval assets from multiple countries combed the ocean surface.

Multiple people thought they saw debris. I mean, that’s the hard thing too, like, you’re not going to see, like, they couldn’t find the main structure, it’s going to sink, so you’d only be looking for like a seat or, like, this is going to be so difficult. Uh, in 2018, a private company by the name of Ocean Infinity conducted, did a renewed search using advanced tech, and they covered 112,000 square km, but found nothing. It’s a really cool company name, though. I know it is, Ocean Infinity. 112 out of million, 112,000 out of 3 million, out of four and a half, million kilometers, so 112,000 km.

Oh, wow, okay, my bad, back to the call. So a very small portion. Yeah, so it’s like looking in your backyard when you’re trying to search the whole state. That’s right. The search for, the search for Malaysia Airlines flight 370 remains one of the most extensive in history. While the main wreckage, uh, has never been located, over 30 pieces were in fact found. And how do they know that? How, how were they able to confirm that they’re from? Correct, some have been confirmed and some haven’t. Now remember, we did an episode, um, on Boeing, and Boeing, yeah, yeah, God, and it was like, how do you, like, let’s say a tire, yeah, yeah, how do you know?

Yeah, there, there’s serial [bleep] number, num, serial numbers. I know, but some of them have that, but some of them don’t. You can’t imagine that every piece of material on it has a serial, because it probably doesn’t. And also, too, what if, like, happens in a crash, it can get, you know, fire, explosions, like, by the way, we, uh, I think we came up with a phenomenal invention, didn’t we, in one of our episodes, where it was, which one? A manufacturer, like Boeing, they should inject some sort of DNA to every part, some sort of, like, like thing, like, you just splurt it out, like, like, you know what I mean, check the G sample on the bolt.

No, and then, and then, forever, each part that is a section would be able to be tracked, like Nano, apple, apple tags. Yes. That seems like an exorbitant, flights are 56,000 to, like, fly to Miami, thanks to Eric’s idea, it’s like, so expensive. I know, but, or a stamp, there’s got to be, there should be some, something you, like, a plane’s done, you’re like, “yeah, we’re done,” and then you splurge a bunch of [bleep] on it. I don’t know, this is a not smart idea, don’t listen, this is financial advice. Here are, here are some of the things that were found. Uh, the first confirmed piece of debris was a flaperon, which is a control surface on the wing, and it’s literally flap, it’s the flaperon, it’s the flaperon, it’s the thing that probably, like, pulls up, like, you know, look and go to, like, create the air downflow.

So on Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean, in July 2015, this is more than a year later, uh, it’s located about a, kilometers west of the primary search area. Okay, in the southern Indian Ocean, they found the flaperon, and underwent extensive analysis, and investigators confirmed it belonged to the plane through serial numbers and other features. Good. Okay, good. The condition of the flaperon suggested it had been in the ocean for an extended period of time, and it was consistent with the timeline. Okay, okay, okay. Wing components, several parts of the wing, including parts of the right outboard flap and other surfaces, were discovered on the coast of South Africa.

Jesus, these pieces were confirmed everywhere. Yeah, and they also had serial numbers on them. Okay, okay, additionally, don’t need the splooge, discern, uh, pieces of the cabin interior, such as the floor panel and fragments of a seatback, were found in Madagascar, which is also in Africa. Yeah, okay, this, these discoveries indicated that the plane had, like, analysts suggested that it was such a high impact that a majority of it disintegrated. I highly doubt that. I know, because how fast are you going? How fast you going? But you’re going into the water too. I don’t think, like, you’d have to be going so fast for, like, metal to des, I know, like water, like, you hit water, it’s like hitting concrete, but to disintegrate, no, I don’t, I don’t buy that, because also to disintegrate they’d have to, like, burn up, vaporize.

What does, what does disintegrate mean, and, yeah, it means vaporize, so you can, you can vaporize things by force, but I don’t imagine that you’d be hit, you’d have a whole plane. No, well, yeah, maybe the plane was going, like, the speed of sound into, into the water, it would, it would disintegrate for sure. Okay, but I don’t think that plane can go fast enough. No, to disintegrate the whole, it just, maybe, maybe it would disintegrate at the point of impact, like, whatever it hit, whatever the first thing to hit would, but not, not the whole [bleep] plane, no way. Uh, in South Africa, on a beach, they found a small piece of engine cowling, and it had the Rolls-Royce logo on it, and it was confirmed as, as part of the engine.

Oh, the Rolls-Royce turbine engines, yeah, the 777. Uh, a fragment of the horizontal stabilizer, which helps control the pitch, uh, was also recovered, and they determined that it was part of it. Okay, also quite a few, so quite a few, deter, a few things across millions of square kilometers, literally, sh, millions, shilan, shm, millions, bro. So, from non-conspiracy theorists, so, like, people that don’t listen to, who just think they, they crash, right, the debris provided some sort of insight into what may have happened, which was that it was a sign of extreme force crashing into the ocean, and, or, the ocean currents then pulling it in.

Second, and I can see that, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense, there you go. Yeah, now no large sections have been found, the fuselage, or the key components such as the black box, uh, never found. Okay, so you said that it does have a GPS on it? Yeah, but I, but I mean, if, if there’s a, to vaporize some [bleep], it could probably, like, disable a little transponder. True. And that doesn’t, that, I think it usually rides up front. Yeah, I think, I think it’s somewhere like in the cabin, because it needs to be close to, like, all to record the data of all that [bleep].

Yeah, I know it’s like protected, but I don’t think it’s like, you know, like a [bleep] nuclear bunker in there, that’s, especially if you’re going, what, 500 miles an hour into the ocean. Yeah, yeah, it’s vaporized right at that, that point, but not the whole plane again, like, maybe just the front part. Yeah, just, like, think the front part would probably, didn’t they never recover the black box for, um, Kobe’s helicopter? I think so, something like that, so, like, it could also, like, burn up. Burn up. Yeah, it could have burn up. Yeah, but they’re hitting the water, so I don’t think it’s burning up.

Yeah, all right, definitely ain’t burning up, it’s an ocean to, to squelch the flames. So after this whole thing happened, part of, part of the upsetting thing of all of this is, is that the, the way the, the families were treated was pretty horrible, and it was just no information, and I don’t know if you chalk it up to chaos, and nobody knowing what’s going on, or national security, yeah, or I’m sure, or just being a [bleep] ass. I’m sure they were trying to, like, no, like, they’re trying to protect their PR, exactly, I think, I think it’s like. They’re only looking at their best interest, like, how do we, how do we mitigate lawsuits, how do we mitigate, you know, public dis, you know, dissatisfaction with us.

Yeah, but, but then again, like, you would think they would be be kissing super ass to the families, right? I know, it seems like that, like, be the good PR play, like, to try to kiss their ass as much as possible. Yeah, yeah, but the lack of evidence in determining the cause of the disappearance, coupled with absence of any physical confirmation of the crash, created these challenges as regarding who was responsible, and who, what insurance would pay out for it, right? Yeah, because it’s not like, it’s so nebulous, like, wouldn’t that just be the Malaysia flight company’s insurance, or airlines, also face potential civil lawsuits from the families, but, like, it’s different in the US compared to Malaysia.

Yeah, probably true. So in the US, like, some of these dis were $5 million in compensation. Yeah, while Malaysia was not that way, they classified it. The Malaysian government officially classified it as an accident, and that’s the end of the story. No, because, like, I don’t think, maybe, like, in terms of maybe having a civil case, if you can’t prove negligence, what are you going to civil sue them for? Okay, cuz if an accident, like, if, say, hypothetically, if your a plane’s flying, it’s like struck by lightning and crashes, can, can you have a civil suit to sue the company, assume? Yeah, there’s no negligence, it’s not like, it’d be different if, you know, it was like [bleep] canned, and like, this, they proved it, like, yeah, and he was all like liquored up or something.

Exactly. Now, this part is pretty upsetting, which is that Malaysian Airlines offered payments to the fam, soon after the accident, but they were offered $5,000. Oh my God, that’s not even like comfort money, that’s no money, five gs. Some of them, uh, rejected the gesture. I would have, like, [bleep], you five grand is worth my [bleep] family member, [bleep] that. By June 2014, the Malaysian government reported that families of seven passengers had received $50,000 in advance for compensation. How many, how much, 50 grand? Seven, seven passengers? Yeah, still seems like a, oh, it’s still [bleep] still seems horrible, still seems, not only that, like, you would, I’d feel weird, oh, like totally, I’m going to take money for my family dying, I don’t know.

Just now, and I’m going to put this into perspective as well. At the time of the flight, Malaysian Airlines was grappling with financial problems. Oh, great. Ah, over the three years preceding the incident, the airline reported losses of 762 million USD. Holy [bleep], that’s massive losses. Yeah, that’s almost, a really, that’s a lot, that’s a [bleep] lot. The airlines struggled with compounded declining investor confidence after it happened, with the stock crashing. Oh, pl. On August 8th, 2014, the airlines majority shareholder, and a Malaysian state-owned investment fund, announced plans to purchase the remaining shares of the stock, making it like a nationalization, so to speak, of your airline with a government fund.

Oh, so maybe, maybe this is like maybe part of the conspiracy of, oh, crash the stock so then we could just buy up the rest, revamp it. Almost seems like they just tried to salvage the [bleep] airline, because that was the main airline of the, and Malaysia, not a huge, Malaysia is not like some massive country, it’s like Malaysia is probably the size of like Pennsylvania. Yeah, yeah, okay, so in some of the investigation, we’re going to go back to the captain, Zahari Ahmed Shah, yeah, so he owned a flight simulator at home, yes, yeah, and this piece of equipment became significant focus during the investigation, because what they did is they explored it.

As his home, and now just imagine in your home you have a flight simulator, mhm, yeah, and then you go, and investigators went in, and the flight simulator, the last simulation that he had was a very similar flight plan, really, to flight 370. Well, I mean, if that was his next flight, it almost makes sense. Yeah, he’s like, so you’re talking about the original plan, or the deviation, the original plan. Okay, like, oh, I’m going to make this flight, I thought you were going to say, like, his simulation was the, if the ACARS goes off, and like these types of things, but it had a yoke, a throttle system, multiple monitors, I mean, this is legit.

Yeah, probably like what you would use to train in school, pilot school. I can just imagine, like, if it’s on the same thing, he’s like, “oh, all right, I’m going to make this flight, let’s just, let’s make the flight, let’s run it, let’s run it,” especially with his experience too, like, it seems like he was a very professional guy, veteran, and yeah, he wanted to make sure, make it crisp, as, like, a practice almost, but conspiracy theorists say that we are, like, something here, why the [bleep] was he practicing? So he’s practicing the same flight, mhm, I don’t know, it’s just kind of weird, like, you got to, like, you got to know, it’s kind of weird, it’s not weird, it’s like lit, it’s like Tom Brady was like studying his plays through the game, what a [bleep] weird, psy, like, I, I ran, I ran for a couple of months before I did my marathon, weird, like, why are you going to train, [bleep] loser.

Okay, I like, I actually like the, this thought, you guys are super not, we like, we’re not like, like [bleep] making something out of nothing. Yeah, I just think that, like, it seems like a normal thing to do. Yeah, like, he’s, he’s a pilot, he wants to run the, the route. Okay, and especially if you go back, I bet you’d find that he simulated previous other flights that he was taking. But here’s the thing, you know, okay, I’m going to be the conspiracy guy, wow, Eric, [bleep], it would be like, you remember the, the Vegas shooting, yeah, yeah, it would be like him having a, no, that’s a way different, ER, not simulating killing people, right?

The idea is, is that not like, none of the other pilots have this, like, $50,000 worth of equipment on a simulation at home, but you know, if you want to be, if you want to be the best, you got to [bleep]. Is it that much, 50 grand? 50 grand. I mean, if that’s the case, maybe it’s not 50, maybe I don’t know, it’s also like Malaysia, it’s probably cheaper. Yeah, it’s like $50, it’s like, it’s like a PS2 like hooked up to this. So investigators discovered that some of the flight path data had been deleted from the simulator using extensive forensic techniques, they recovered a route that appeared to simulate a flight over southern Indian Ocean, so going that way, but it appeared, appeared to, how did it appear, can’t you just look at the, honestly, honestly, how many games do you play, and you do all the simulations, and you do all the different ways, who knows?

Yeah, I know, but again, a little bit different than video game though. Again, they, they established that there was no, it’s all circumstantial evidence. Yeah, I mean, it’s just like, there’s, if there was something a little more juicy there, yeah, I would love to dive into it, but it just doesn’t seem that juicy. Yeah, like, if you told me he simulated the deviation or something, that’s very, hell yeah, yeah, yeah. So the simulator showed no signs of simulations that involved crashing the plane, or any sort of hijacking scenario. Okay, good, so it was just straight up take off. Yeah, pretty vanilla, even if you were like, “hey, I’m going to Hong Kong, landing there,” okay, you know what I mean, simulations, straight, straight simulations.

I wonder if the simulation takes 6 hours like the flight does. Oh my gosh, can you imagine sitting there, oh, get pause, l, like some, like, get a Hot Pocket. So later on in this whole investigation, it was considered that he just crashed the plane, a suicide. I mean, I’m thinking, I mean, based on the, the, the thing being manually shut off, I was thinking maybe the copilot had, I, I don’t know why I’m not going to like, the, the professional guy, I’m like going to like the, yeah, but there’s no evidence to say that, you know what I mean, there’s no evidence, there’s no evidence to say that it was the pro, also, if that was the case, then why would they make almost a U-turn?

He would just crash it after he turned off the, the, uh, that’s a good point, why just crash it? No one can stop you, like, why make it weird? I don’t know. Yeah, I know, I know, I don’t know, and then this definitely not getting solved, boys. So after, after, after all this happened, like, we’re talking riot, we’re talking, uh, we’re talking a lot of things happened from the families, if you could imagine, the families just were like, [bleep] this [bleep]. Oh, for sure, I would be, I’d be up in [bleep] hour, it was all live on camera, and like they were just, why are you not telling us, because the Malaysian government started to backtrack and go, “oh, we’re going to search here by Australia, oh no, we’re going to search here,” and it, it’s just a never-ending, your kid is gone and you have no idea what you’re doing, and you know, it was just a [bleep], I super pissed.

Oh, yeah, I would be [bleep], oh, I would be, well, I mean, like, like, practically, what riot? No, no, I would probably go to, I would make, I would call 700 times a day to like my whatever the local government was, until someone [bleep] did something about it, I would just call non-stop, show up, I’d be there sitting in the [bleep] waiting room, I’d be [bleep] everywhere, you would only see my [bleep] face everywhere, make a big, make a lot of noise about it. I would make so much noise. Yeah, go to the news or something, I don’t know. Yeah, well, there you go, we’re going to go into a part two on this, um, obviously, because we have, we have all the theories.

Coming up, uh, we have, we have so many different theories of what happened. These folks are, are still missing, uh, they’re, you know, it doesn’t, you know what drives me crazy about it, is, is this is not like 1972. No, that’s what I’m say, it’s 20 [bleep] 14, this is, this is, there’s so much technology, you know, how many goddamn, there’s, there’s like thousands of [bleep] satellites, and like the radar systems are so advanced, how do they lose radar with a giant plane? I don’t get it, I don’t understand, that’s [bleep] [bleep], like, you know how impossible it is to get stealth [bleep], you know how much it costs to make a stealth bomber, which is not even 100% stealth, mind you, it’s just the way it’s shaped can, like, help deflect radar at a certain, at certain altitudes and [bleep], yeah, it’s nearly impossible to escape radar, it’s almost impossible, and this is a commercial airliner, which is like built to be detected, right?

It’s like the whole system is around being detected. So there, there are theories, and we’re going to go over it in the next episode, which is, there’s theories of hijacking, there’s theories of, uh, like somebody was sitting in a wrong seat, and then they, like, you can access, how do you turn off the, the electrical and the tracking, like, how do you do it if you’re not the pilot, if you’re not the captain, how do you do it? Yeah, like, I don’t know, you have to go underneath, you have to pull up the latch, you have to go underneath into the computer system and do it off, and you have to know all that.

So it’s got to be, yeah, you got to be a, you got, you got to know, you’re, you also have to know where, like, what it even is, like some random, like, hijacker, like, “oh, yeah,” the ACARS system. And then on top of it, there’s another theory, and this is the wildest theory of all of them, which is that, at that time, there was a plane shot down in the Ukraine. Oh, yes, I remember this. I don’t remember this at all. You remember this? Yeah, so there was a plane shot down in the Ukraine, and some say that this is the plane, and they did a fake, they did a swap.

Oh, like the Titanic. It was like, oh, and they used that plane as the shoot down plane, and they were already dead. Oh my God, to begin with. Yeah, it’s a wild, there’s some wild theories, like, well, we’re going to get into that, we’re not going to give you all the juice right now at the end of this episode one. There you go. So again, uh, it’s horrible, um, tragic, we’re just trying to, we’re trying to continue to shed light on this, and as well as try to help figure out what happened, of course. And look, if we don’t ask questions, you know, if we don’t question the narrative, like, then, you know, we become drones, we become, we become the sheep.

Yeah, and the herd, and not everything necessarily has to be a conspiracy, but if we don’t question what happened, or if something else could have happened, then we’ll never know the truth. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, yeah, there you go, man. All right, well, we’ll catch you guys next time, uh, we’ll, we’ll see you guys later, hope you guys are doing good, [bleep], love you guys, they’re going to have the best [bleep] year yet, right? Cheers, night night. What’s up, guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode, I want to invite you to join us for our Patreon. So what that is, is an exclusive membership, we’re going to be able to get, uh, exclusive discounts, like 15% off on all our merch, and you won’t have to listen to these ads ever again, ad ever again, plus you’re going to be able to access our minis, EP episodes, so that’s something that nobody else is going to get access to, they’re just short podcast episodes, wor about 15 minutes long or so, so cool, you know, extra content that you’re going to get access to.

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