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Fancy that. Uh because we did do 8 hours of story. Mhm. And then like this is what you guys have been waiting for. Like this is like let’s put let’s put some effort into going what are the main conspiracies about 911. Yeah. So I’m just going to jump right in. If you haven’t listened to the last one, please go back because we’re just starting right. Yeah. And there’s a bunch of them and that’s why we’re doing two episodes. We couldn’t just we didn’t want to like just cut it short and like oh these are like the top three. Now, we’re going to get into some you probably haven’t even heard.

Yeah, that’s right. So, there’s the story of Odigo, and Odigo was an Israeli instant messaging company with real offices in New York City and just outside of Tel Aviv. According to the story, roughly two hours before the first plane struck the North Tower, employees working at Odigo’s Israeli office received a message, a genuine one, sent through the company’s own messaging platform warning that an attack was coming. Oh [bleep] And this was 2 hours before almost anyone on the entire planet knew about anything at all. Hm. The company never denied that it happened. Oh, yeah. They’re like Odigo’s own executives confirmed to reporters afterwards that two employees really did receive a threatening message before the attacks took place.

I mean, it wasn’t really a threatening message, more less a life-saving message. No, but like that there is a threat. Oh, okay. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Sorry. Now, some say though that the threat message was a little vague and so it might have been coincidental. Yeah. No, meaning they didn’t say that’s that’s absurd. That’s that they never mentioned the World Trade Center. The only thing I can think of is remember that uh Sean’s face. No, [snorts] I mean it doesn’t mean that it’s going to happen right now in the next two hours. cuz it just means that hey there’s there’s something that could happen or it’s going to happen some attack.

What would you think about if I was like Eric get get out of the Bank of America building cuz there’s an imminent threat happen. If you saw something on the news and then you messaged him then I wouldn’t think so much about it. There was nothing on the news. Nothing happened yet. This is 2 hours before the attack. That’s what I was about to say. There were there was first of all there was the Bin Laden making uh accus or claims to threats two hours before. No, not two hours. insane like yeah months but then they’re why you going to hit them up 2 hours before they attack then they’re going to wait they’re going to wait to the day oh [bleep] we just coincidence a a sketch coincidence like we’re in a different time zone so it took us a couple months to get the vid [laughter] but hey you should get out of there the only thing I can think of is that it’s just the world is full of billions of messages and it’s a coincidence oh my god I can’t I can’t deal with you anymore.

I’m just [laughter] [bleep] I just like I’m so close to snapping. I’m like like you know what’s that sound like? Don’t push me [laughter] cuz I’m close to It’s a vague It’s a vague warning. No target. No building mentioned, right? But then but then the worst happening all the time. I’m just saying. Is it happening all the time, Eric? Is it or do you work in as an Israeli software company and you’re getting like random messages all the time? I don’t work in a Israeli software company. But yeah, I I get what you’re saying. That’s what I’m saying. It just it’s Yeah. So, [snorts] the FBI investigated that message directly and never found anything tying to an actual plot except for, you know, the towers that got hit 2 hours later.

So, this is the explanation from investigators. Yeah. it was a fishing scam. Click the link. That it was vague, hostile chatter, the kind that circulates constantly on an open messaging platform where users could message complete strangers. I thought this was on their internal working platform that only got noticed in hindsight and then got reshaped over years of retelling into something far more specific and far more precise. But it never actually been in the moment. Okay. Can you rewind like so what was No, rewind. You said this was on their internal messaging system that’s open to the public. I can just like hop into like their like No, he’s just saying it was he didn’t say it was their internal.

He said it was on this on their network. Oh, I think what’ you say, Eric? I literally We’ve lost it. The data is gone now. Eric, it’s been it’s been five minutes. delete the delete the documents do Eric and the SEC love to delete [bleep] I know he’s like, “You know what? I know it doesn’t exist.” All right. So, you got to remember back in the day Odigo was like messengers. Yeah. There’s there’s messenger platforms all see that’s why when you were saying that I didn’t realize that Odigo itself was a messaging service. Mhm. I thought it was like on like their teams like you know like their internal like I thought it was chat or cell phone like text message like kind of like what we do now.

That’s what I was imagining. But you’re right in a group text like I think it would be kind of like somebody in a Discord channel said something. But it’s also isn’t that sketch that they have like access to everyone’s like it’s like if somebody in the Discord says like Jorge AI it’s just like something like that. I know you’re you’re due for your like weekly pop in. Yeah, it’s true. No, but that makes sense though that that but it also doesn’t make sense that like wow they were really like they were just like screening everyone’s [bleep] No to go. Yeah, don’t join that messaging service.

So this uh is pretty loose but two people really did receive a strange message two hours before and they were internet employees that that received the message. Okay. So I mean that’s pretty it’s a coincidence. Yeah. We’re going to mark it down as Oh yeah. info. I don’t know. I mean, there’s We’re We’re at coincidence number 12 now. Yeah, exactly. Negligence. [laughter] Oh my god. This Here we go. Okay. So, there’s one document that belongs in the conversation. On August 6th, 2001, a little over five weeks before the attacks, the CIA delivered President Bush his daily intelligence briefing while he was vacationing at his ranch in Texas.

Classic, the month I was on vacation. The briefing that morning carried a title that has followed his presidency ever since. And here’s the title. Bin Laden determined to strike in US. Now I mean if it’s on if it’s on Gdub negligence for sure that guy was not with it. The guy was like so it’s not could barely drives. Watch me hit this drive. [laughter] So, uh, from data from the 911 commission, it was the 36th 36th time that Bin Laden or al-Qaeda was briefed to Bush in his daily. Okay. Since being in office from January, [sighs] that’s a lot of times. Yes, that is I’ve I haven’t been briefed more than four times on anything in my entire life on the same thing.

So that specific document Yeah. What what what’s the briefing? Itself runs about a page and a half. Its opening line states plainly that a foreign government andor clandestine group indicate bin Laden has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks inside the US since 97. It references a New York-based al-Qaeda cell. Anybody talked about that before? Yeah, the Brooklyn, right? It references patterns of activity suggestive of hijackings. It references surveillance of federal buildings in New York and the possible casing of buildings tied to the earlier Millennium plot that we had talked about. We talked about that briefly where there was there was a that’s true foiled millennium plot of terrorism that they were going to do something in LAX, right?

Mhm. Blow it up. That’s right. The White House’s own position laid out publicly years later once the document was declassified is that it was historical in nature. That’s what what that’s the excuse. It was of course at that time it’s historical because it happened in the past that it summarized old reporting rather than surfacing a new specific threat. Well, what about the other 35 briefings he got? That it was vague. It did not name a date, a method, or a target. And it never mentioned one time the idea of hijacked planes being used as weapons. But it did mention hijacking. But it did mention the cell.

It didn’t mention that there’s people there and then they had all this intel on all the people like they knew the people. They refused to put them on the watch list. Like they knew that they knew that all these oh wow in Arizona why all why are all these Middle Eastern guys like signing up to fly commercial flights but don’t want to land? Like what’s going on? Like this is they have all this intel and nothing happens. Historical [bleep] out of here. Okay, moving on to the Bush family. Okay, Marvin Bush. You ever heard of Marvin Bush? I didn’t know that. Never heard of Marvin Bush.

He was like the like the uncle or something. He’s the president’s younger brother. [snorts] Yep. Did not know that. He sat on the board of a company called Secure Account. I thought it was Jeb. Securicom. I thought I thought Jeb did. Well, we’ll take up Jeb in a in a in a a later [clears throat] later thing. But this is Marvin. Okay. That’s why I didn’t I thought I mess just confused you. [laughter] Jeb, Marvin, and Gina. Yeah. Beverly Hillbillies. [laughter] Okay. So, he sat on the board of a company called Securom. Oh, that’s right. They were the They were the security company for the trade center.

So, it was later renamed Stratac. And from the mid 90s through the year 2000, Securecom was a security firm backed by a Kuwaiti American investment group and its client list at various points included Dolis airport, United Airlines and the World Trade Center. Okay. Wow. I mean everything that got like what? Two out of our three clients are the ones that got attacked. The company’s own CEO, Barry McDonald, later confirmed that Secure Comm held an active security contract at the World Trade Center at the time of the 9/11. Okay, that’s the entire foundation that the theory rests on. The president’s own brother financially connected to a firm with active security access to the exact site that would be attacked.

Well, this also makes this also ties into the the fact that like when when we went over extensively o over the the trade centers falling down. Mhm. And and a like how do both collapse when they’re built to not do that in the in the fashion that they did? Yeah. The the what do they call like the the puffs of smoke that look like that that they could potentially be um explosive charges like detonating out and like weakening the columns and then causing the near freef fall. And we this whole [bleep] freef fall [bleep] explanation. Yeah. And then someone someone even had a comment was like said I was stupid or something for saying something and I was like I don’t understand.

Like [clears throat] I never said it was at Pure Freef Fall because Pure Free Fall doesn’t exist. No, no, that was on me. It was I thought he was talking [bleep] to me. No, because later on I was referencing it and I said, “What was Freefall again, Sean?” I was like, “Three seconds.” And they’re like, “Idiot.” [laughter] Yeah. 3 seconds. Correct. I was wrong. No, but I but I also You had never said 3 seconds. No, but I had also said I read the exact thing of like how long. I think it was like eight uh n seconds or something for like the full like I I read the exact because later on I was just randomly going what was that number again?

Three seconds. These guys suck idiots. Don’t listen to this podcast. I know. You know what? I’m lawsuit. [laughter] So, a couple thing on Marvin Bush. Uh Marvin Bush’s term on that board ended in the year 2000. Oh, so he’s a board member. Yeah. So it ended roughly a year before the attacks. Okay. So technically speaking, he wasn’t on the board during the attacks. And also, just so you know, like if you’re a board member, you’re not really involved in the day-to-day. Yeah. You make high level decisions for the company as a whole. You’re not you’re not like day-to-day operations guy. Yeah. So the point being in all this and and no investigation in 25 years has connected the company itself or Marvin Bush personally to anything beyond an ordinary corporate contract.

It’s just it’s just a it’s just strange. It’s strange kinky dinky. Yeah, it’s just strange. But theoretically, if one wanted to gain access, it wouldn’t be a stretch to do so. Yeah, that’s right. like, “Hey, I’m a board member at this. I I need to We’re having a survey done. I need an access.” And they’re be like, “Oh, what’s your last name?” But cool. Yeah. Right. So, but since we’re talking about the World Trade Center, I wanted to bring up more information about Larry Silverstein. Um, we went over it in two episodes ago, one of Sean’s episodes, we went over it extensively, but, uh, there was just a little bit more detail that I thought we could kind of touch on.

really quick. So Larry Silverstein, the man who signed that 99-year lease 6 weeks before the attacks, he held breakfast meetings nearly every single morning at the Windows on the world, which was the restaurant on like the like floor 120 or something like that. 115 106. There it is. Uh on the North Tower. And he’d done it every morning since the deal closed. He was there every morning. Every morning. Clockwork. Yeah. And everybody knew. Yeah, 100%. On that morning, he wasn’t there. Little little headache. And it was we talked about it. It was a dermatologist appointment. I mean, this is the most like obscure. And also, who has a dermatologist appointment at 800 a.m., [laughter] you know what?

Got to get my scans. Also, [snorts] we didn’t talk about it in the the last couple episodes, but he had two adult children who were VPs of the company who also attended those meetings constantly. Um, they happened they happened to be running late. Oh, just so happened. I All three of those people survived, which, you know, take that take for Yeah. Take it for what you will. It’s all speculative at this point. And we had gone over it actually in the 9/11 stories, but um everyone who was in the Windows on the World restaurant died. Yeah, there’s not one person who survived. You’re too high up, dude.

It’s It’s Yeah. I mean, I can’t imagine on a good day, like a normal day, not this happening, like walking down a 100 flights of stairs. Yeah. I mean, my Yeah. So, I don’t know what that all means. That’s all extreme circumstantial. Yeah. I mean, that’s coincidental. Yeah. That’s when you like have a bunch of random pieces like obviously you come to your own conclusion based on like the information that you’re available. Yeah. It’s it’s data that they weren’t there. Yeah. Okay. So, the next one is real. It’s documented and the honest version of it is a bit more complicated. In the days immediately following the attacks, while most commercial aircraft in the country remained grounded, roughly 140 Saudi internationals, including close to two dozen members of Osama bin Laden’s own family, flown out, left the United States on a small number of chartered flights bound for Saudi Arabia.

I don’t like this. No, dude. No, not at all. First of all, we’ve we’ve already established that they should be detained. We’ve already established that they knew Osama bin Laden wanted to strike the US. That is a fact. Yes. 36 times. I don’t understand without a shadow of a doubt. I don’t understand why they allowed this. So, and I’m just going to go through some of the details and we’ll keep we’ll keep talking about it. But um so FBI agents personally escorted at least two prominent Saudi families to their flights, citing concerns for their safety in the tense days after the attacks. You’re concerned for the your concern for their safety.

Here’s what’s wild. None of those individuals were interviewed at length by the FBI before they left. Wow. And you would think that they don’t even have diplomatic immunity because bin Laden wasn’t like a royal family member. M like how would they even have any sort of like even grounds to be like escorted out? Um, it’d be different if it was the crown prince of [bleep] Saudi Arabia. Like, okay, sure, I get it. Like, you can’t like he’s runs the country. Yeah, you got to let the guy out. Like, for sure. But like, Bin Lan’s family like, yeah, they were rich, but like to get FBI escort out after you knew that him he was like death to America.

And a lot of this information came out when filmmaker Michael Moore came out with Fahrenheit 911. Yeah. And Fahrenheit 911 is good, but it also came out just as to put it into context, that documentary came out like right fairly soon after 911. Yeah. And then so we know so much more. There was much more information. So while it’s a good it’s a good thing to watch, it’s a little bit it’s antiquated because like he didn’t have as much like there’s so much more information available. The 911 commission investigated this claim. The commission found no evidence that any flight of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before national airspace reopened on the morning of September 13th.

So they’re saying they they got flown out after September 13th. Correct. That doesn’t make it any better. That doesn’t like That’s true. That doesn’t absolve the Now, now the point that contradicts this is in our intro, uh, you you’ve heard the guy who who says who’s apologizing. Yeah. If you if you didn’t know who that was, that’s Richard Clark. He was the National Security Council of Counterterrorism. Yeah. Yeah. And he apologized. He said publicly that he personally approved letting the flights proceed specifically because the FBI told him directly that they had no objection and no reason to hold them. It’s so [bleep] up. Wow. H the dude who lit Okay.

And he’s the guy who apologized in our intro. Yeah. To the families. I mean at least somebody took some That was one of the best or I mean one of the most redeeming moments. Yeah. At least someone takes responsibility and because you never see people in like the high position take responsibility. It’s always like some nobody. I actually that was one of the pivotal moments of this whole story was that in my opinion is that an official said we failed. Not not even that like he’s a big it’s not like a he’s like a big like over counterterrorism. He’s like I [bleep] up. I’m sorry.

Yeah. Yeah. So, the theory in its most dramatic form, a secret flight during a blackout arranged personally at the highest levels of the White House escorted by the FBI. The commission says it doesn’t hold up. Well, the commission says it’s just not before the 13th. Correct. But it doesn’t change the fact that it happened. Yeah, it did happen. All the commission is saying it didn’t happen before X date when everything was grounded. Yeah. But it doesn’t matter. Like why why does that matter? Yeah. They their family got flown out. Well, it would have been worse for sure, but it still doesn’t take away from the fact that they shouldn’t have.

The family got flown out. Like regardless of anything, it doesn’t change anything, right? Like, oh, it’s either you got flown out when it was grounded or you got flown out when it wasn’t grounded. It doesn’t matter. Like, the family got flown out. The FBI escorted them. Yeah. Okay. All I know is this sounds like a major [sighs and gasps] negligence cover up. God damn it. No, no, this sounds like the cover up of oil situations or like uh retaining relationships with those who supply us the oil. Right. Right. Yep. That’s what that sounds like to me. Look, we let we let a lot like, hey, we don’t know what our our cousin’s doing, but hey, you know, we pump in we pump in a trillion dollars into the US.

See, that’s remember what I was telling you about with like Well, they buy they they sell in dollars. They sell the oil in dollars. Well, because yeah, the US is the is the standard currency. And then there was even talks of like that standard currency for oil being changed. Yeah. This is recently. This is this is within the last year. Yeah. Um No, but this is right back to what I was telling you about of like do the like in their mind, do the ends justify the means? Are you willing to do these backdoor deals, nefarious psycho [bleep] at the cost of lies of Americans to further the goals of quote unquote America?

I just don’t understand why they didn’t detain them. It doesn’t make any sense. Well, you know, things are different now, too. Espec after 911. You know, you’re we’re allowed to detain even Americans on on on the on the claim of or count or whatever. Yeah. Of terrorism. No, but the thing these aren’t Americans. These are for these are foreign nationals of No, I know. I’m just saying that even Americans now we can detain anybody. And I’m just saying back then maybe it was like, look, we don’t have any evidence to hold him here. Oh, besides besides besides the evidence of literally your husband telling us that he’s going to orchestrate a terrorist attack.

Husband. Well, no, I don’t think it was the wife. Whatever, cousins, and you know, whatever. Yeah, it doesn’t. I’m not saying it’s right. I’m just playing a little devil’s advocate. Listen, little Eric side. Listen, Eric. I was like, that’s Eric’s job. No, you’re wrong. [laughter] No, but I I I I’m with you. I think this is one of the worst uh decisions made. It just it’s so great. I don’t understand it. I just don’t Everything else I kind of understand and I say the word negligence and all that sort of thing, but accidental mistakes, la, but this was a choice. I mean, just imagine imagine this.

It’s like, okay, my wife is suspected of like uh lighting a 7-Eleven on fire with like 20 people in it. Okay. There’s an investigation happening and 3 days later I’m like, I’m going to I’m going to Turkey. Yeah. They’re going to be like, “Yeah, sure.” Like, “No, no, I’m getting detained.” Yeah. Yeah. And like and I’m not looking this through the prism of post 911, brother. This is like [laughter] I mean come on. Yeah. I mean Wesley Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion and some of Bin Laden’s family got flown out by the FBI. But you know you know truth be told and and I know I know we joke but like you know this wasn’t a 7-Eleven bombing.

This was this was the biggest terrorist attack that 2 days later killed 3,000 people. That’s what I’m saying. Like Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion. Yeah. Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden’s family was flown out private by the FBI. I mean, so that you’re never that’s never going to that that’ll never make sense. And it would have made sense if they detained them and questioned them individually and we had the records of all of that. Then fine. And and and maybe if nothing came up. Yeah. They’re like, “We don’t like he’s he’s only like six years.” Yeah. He’s been crazy. Like, “Look, check my phone.

Check my computer. Take no idea what he’s doing.” Then I’d be like, “Fine.” Yeah. Like, “Okay.” Yeah. I don’t know. We’re going to circle back to that, I think, in our summations. Oh, for sure. 100%. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But one thing I did want to add is um you know, just from the viewpoint that Bush needed the Saudis if he was going to invade Afghanistan. So like there there’s a whole like political, you know, relationship there to it. Now the White House and the FBI, they both denied that the flights existed until years later uh when the 9/11 commission confirmed it.

And so in 2004, that’s when this came to light. So really, what are you talking about? I don’t know flights. What are you if there’s no flights? Okay. Okay. We flew them out again. Just more polit It’s always political, man. It’s always [bleep] every every move is political. I think we need to I think that’s going to go in our We need to remember that. Yeah, that’s in the cap in our you know what I mean for our summations. Yeah, I think we’ll all reference that. Put [snorts] a pin in that one. Mine specifically [laughter] and we’re not allowed to cross each other. So don’t take my new rules.

First of all, if I say anything in mine, you can’t use it in yours. So, your your summations be like, are we going to share each other’s summations before the summations over who gets to go first though? We’re going to be let we’re going to be monologuing on top of each other’s. No, but I’m not going to change my [bleep] for your [bleep] You are you crazy? Do you do you know me? Yeah, me neither. [laughter] Yeah. Eric has to create a whole new theory just so it doesn’t sound like ours. [laughter] I’ll be right back. Eric’s actually like aliens. Yeah, they pretty sure it was aliens.

[laughter] Uh, one of the one of the four times they arrived, it was thin. All right, so moving on to the next one. Uh, we already told you the story of United 93, the passengers, the revolt in the aisle, the decision to storm the cockpit instead of sitting still. What we didn’t tell you though is what investigators actually found once they got to the crash site in Pennsylvania. Because the picture on the ground doesn’t entirely match the picture most people carry around in their heads. A plane crashing in one place should leave its wreckage in roughly one place. Yeah, one would think. Yeah, that’s not what happened in Pennsylvania.

Investigators recovered light debris, torn paper, cabin insulation, small fragments scattered as far as 8 miles from the main. What? Meanwhile, Meanwhile, Meanwhile, at the Pentagon, there’s like a perfect hole like at Looney Tunes, a hole in the wall. So, 8 miles is not a rounding error. It’s true. And for 25 years, people have been asking exactly what it means. On top of that, multiple people on the ground that morning independently reported seeing a small white plane, some described as a business jet, flying low near the crash site right around the time United 93 went down. Terasante. A few of those witnesses have said on the record years later that what they saw looked military.

So, we put those facts together. debris that was scattered for eight miles and an unexplained witness view of a small aircraft, a military aircraft. And you land on the theory that has followed this crash since the day it happened, which was that flight 93 was never brought down by its own passengers. Shot down, but it was shot down. I mean, when you think about it, like if and we’re well, before we even say anything, we’re not saying that these people didn’t we’re not trying to invalidate them in any way, shape, or goddamn form. What they did was amazing, heroic. I I strive to be the type of person who could do what they did.

We’re just trying to answer these questions. I stri But in to be real, let’s be 100% real. Let’s say even if we were at full capacity on all of our fighter jets and they scrambled them. If a plane was going to to fly into the World Trade Center, they would shoot it down. If they knew about it ahead of time. No, I’m saying if you could find if you if you saw it before it hit, they would shoot it down because you have to weigh the loss of life on the plane versus the loss of life that’s going to be caused by that event. Gotcha.

So it’s like in their eyes it’s like we shoot it down we we kill let’s say we kill 60 70 people and you save 3,000 that you you have to take that you have to do that like that’s that’s the greatest good the greatest good is to save 3,000 people and you have to I would you have to do that it’s the greatest good like as so that’s what I’m saying it’s like if it was shut down that you can see I could see their side that would I I wouldn’t be like Europe piece of [bleep] Like if it’s going to hit a building and kill more people.

Well, this one was um supposed to be or it was on track, right, for the White House? Uh was that the Pentagon one? Well, we don’t know. We actually don’t know. We don’t know. The Pentagon. We don’t know for sure. The Pentagon thought was the White House. Yeah. Oh, that’s the one. Okay. Yeah. And obviously if it’s like But it is possible it also could have been the White House. And you’re definitely thinking that after the Pentagon hit. Yeah. I mean, just because it’s on Pennsylvania Avenue doesn’t mean Oh, yeah. Correct. Because the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue is in Pennsylvania, but where the Capitol building I it was obviously on its in route to somewhere over somewhere.

It was in route to somewhere important where there was people. Yeah. So, I’m set my point is that if they did shoot it down, I I you should just come out like I would rather them just be like, “Yeah, we shot it down to prevent a larger casualty event.” Because to me that would make obviously it’s sad and it’s terrible but it makes sense. At least that like makes sense. Yeah. Cuz like I wish they would have shot down the ones that were going to go in the trade center. We would have saved so many lives like totally. Maybe even if one of them didn’t fall.

That’s what I’m saying. Like dude like like even if one made it but one, you know what I mean? And yeah, you’re still saving so many people. It’s it’s it’s an unfortunate thing but it’s worth it’s worth it because it you have to save as many people as you can. That’s like the whole point. In the days right after the crash, reporters on the ground described the furthest debris as 3 miles out. This is at the 93. Yeah, we’re all about 93 right now. So, it’s a discrepancy. I mean, that it’s a discrepancy of five miles. I mean, that’s a lot of miles. Yeah. And we’re talking about like also like what was found in the 8 miles?

Like was it just cuz like a little like a screw or something. Yeah. Which you know still you can say it was the debris went 8 miles but the majority of it should be within that 3 mile range for sure. But also eight like 5 miles is not like a small distance. No. No. I mean it’s not I think it’s like 5 miles from here to my house, right? No. It’s your house is further than five. Your house is further than five. Yeah, that’s true. It’s a little bit more. Yeah. But I’m saying but five miles I mean that’s like that’s like 27,000 ft. Yeah, that’s that’s like it’s a that’s a far away.

It’s not like a small So, but later so later more precise measurements put that same debris as a mile and a half. Okay. Wow. Why are there a lot of discrepancy here? See, you see what could happen in the world. It’s a mile and a half. It’s like So, original reporting was, you know, Yeah. So, [snorts] here’s what the physical record actually says once you follow it all the way down. Flight 93 hit the ground nose first at somewhere close to 580 mph. So, it’s like an asteroid. I mean, the fastest impact of any of the planes. Okay. Yeah. And at that speed into open ground, an aircraft does not stay in one piece.

No, for sure. Yeah. No way. Light material gets thrown for miles purely from the force and the wind pattern of an impact that violent. And that is documented at other high-speed crashes going back 30 years. A one ton section of of the engine was recovered roughly 2,000 ft from the crater. Okay. which investigators point to as far more consistent with a steep high-speed impact than with a plane that had already broken up apart in the air. Okay. I saw the meaning like, okay, that’s more consistent. The plane wasn’t shot down. Yeah. As for the plane, the FAA and NORAD have both confirmed there really was a business jet in that airspace that morning.

Okay. a dissult falcon flying at 37,000 ft more than six miles above where flight 93 actually went down. I know, but then they say the other plane was like it was a it was low. That’s not low. That’s that’s cruising altitude. But it might explain random witnesses. No, but a if a witness see is a witness like, “Oh, there’s a plane flying low that I can only see like the tiniest little bit of vapor trail coming from it.” Like, you realize how high that is in the air, right? Yeah, it’s very high. That’s almost unseeable. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. You wouldn’t see a speck.

He’s right. You wouldn’t be like, “Oh, that’s a military plane.” I [clears throat] would be like, “Oh, it’s a plane that it’s in so far away.” what we always say about like eyewitness testimony. It is the worst. That’s a good point. You know, that is a great point. And and you know, people want to they want to see. They see what they want. They see what they want to see. So, on the record, there is no radar track showing a missile. That means nothing to me. Yeah, it don’t necessarily think it was a missile, but I’m saying that we’re trying to answer We’re trying to answer the question of maybe it was shot down.

I don’t think it was. No, I don’t think so. I really don’t think it was. Yeah. Uh there’s nothing from recovered of the wreckage that points to anything other than a ground impact. Worth adding too because it rarely gets said out loud in either version of the story. Enough of that the passengers and crew were recovered and identified through dental records. Mhm. Fingerprints and DNA that investigators were able to confirm every single person who was aboard that flight. Wow. That’s impressive. That’s I don’t know how you do that. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. I I don’t think I don’t think it was Yeah. I also don’t think that I think they took the plane down.

Oh, I think they did. Yeah. I think the passengers took the plane down for sure. For sure. 100%. I also don’t think that the government would like try to cover that up. I think they would probably try to take a small win if they did shoot it down. like we were able to save, you know, countless lives. I mean, but then again, it is still a PR nightmare. It’s like, oh, we shot down an American plane on American. Yeah, I can see like the PR nightmare would cause, but I still don’t think it was shot down. [snorts] Okay, the next one. It kind of sounds invented when you first hear it, but it’s not.

It’s real. Months before the attacks, two separate art projects had legitimate, fully documented access to the upper floors of the World Trade Center, arranged through an actual nonprofit residency. Yeah, I remember this. The program was called World Views, run by the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council, and it placed working artists into office space inside Tower 1 that was sitting vacant while the Port Authority looked for permanent tenants. Over the years, the program ran well over a hundred artists came through it. Two of those projects are the ones that keep coming up. The first is a German art collective called E Team. In March of 2001, 6 months before the attacks, they staged a piece using nothing but ordinary office lighting.

They coordinated with businesses on seven different floors on the north tower, floors 89 through 95, timing which windows stayed lit overnight and which stayed dark so that from outside the building at night, the pattern spelled out the words E-ash team across the entire face of the tower. That’s kind of cool. 127 windows lit. Nearly 300 left dark. It was documented, photographed, and publicly known as a piece of conceptual art long before the attacks ever happened. Okay. Okay. The second is an Austrian collective at the time called Gelatin. A year earlier in March of 2000, working out of a vacant space on the 91st floor, they removed a window, built a small wooden platform, and pushed it out through the opening, standing on it briefly while it was photographed from a chartered helicopter at dawn.

The entire thing lasted about 19 minutes before they pulled the platform back in and sealed the window. They later published a book called The Bee Thing. And here’s why this keeps circulating 25 years later instead of fading. American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower between the floors 93 and 99. The E Team Light installation used floors 89 through 95. [snorts] Real overlap. Coincidental. Oh, okay. I was wondering conspiracy would be is like, okay, they had access to these floors after hours. Were they like setting like debt cord like correct? I see. I was wondering. I was like what’s the conspiracy? Yeah. Where are we going with this?

But now I understand. Do you see some of the pictures of this team in there and whatever? Like there’s these small little boxes everywhere that are just like unmarked boxes. And if there was going to be but there’s a ton of them like Yeah. And if there was going to be the team that put explosives in, this would be the team. Yeah. If if if this was subscribed to they have after hours access and they think everyone thinks it’s like a art thing and like they’re super bad at like of course cool. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that that makes sense how they would and then the planes hit those.

Exactly. Yeah. From that overlap of where the plane hit, the theory grows, and it grows partly by borrowing from a separate story that was real and deserves its own mention. In the months around 9/11, federal investigators genuinely did look into a wave of young Israeli nationals traveling around the country claiming to be art students, going doortodoor, selling cheap paintings, often near government buildings in the homes of federal employees. case in it. There was an actual internal DEA memo later made public raising concerns that some of these individuals might be conducting intelligence gathering rather than actually selling art. Yeah, the story is real and documented, but it’s a loose connection with E team or the Austrian collective who were the the [clears throat] German and Austrian, not Israeli, and who were part of a completely separate publicly funded cultural program.

Yeah, it’s a little loose. I mean, yeah. I mean, sure, there could be a connection there, but it’s so possible. I don’t know. It’s possible for sure, but it seems kind of loose. Yeah. So, there’s a third piece to this that generally doesn’t make the retelling of this 9/11 story, and it’s a little strange. A Colombian artist named Monica Bravo, also part of the same residency of this program that we’ve been talking about, [snorts] spent the night of 910 in one of the upper floors in the North Tower, filming a thunderstorm rolling over the city from inside that building. That footage is, as far as anyone has been able to determine, the last video ever recorded from inside those floors before the towers came down the next morning.

It’s also take it for what it is. I don’t know what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just axis. I mean, just going back to what we were talking about the the explosives, but man, to put I don’t know. I mean, to to lay that many explosives and like nobody notices. No, no security camera is going to pick it up. That’s why we’re going over the people that had access that perhaps were. Yeah. I I don’t I don’t think there’s really like like at least at this time in 2001 some comprehensive surveillance system no surveillance system of like the building. Yeah. But I do think that in order to discreetly lay that many charges you would need more than a night.

I think I think he would need it would be over like months of time and it would be under the guise of like building maintenance, not necessarily like an art student collective. Yeah. Well, [snorts] what is actually true is that this residency program placed well over a 100 artists in vacant floors across three years. Okay. Well, so that’s specifically because those upper floors were empty. Yeah, because because the Port Authority hadn’t like filled them up yet. Yeah. I also think that like the char like the thing wasn’t the I don’t really think that the main conspiracy of like the building coming down was like charges on the top floors.

I think it was charges leading all the way down the building to facilitate the building collapsing the way it did. Mhm. So, it’s like, yes, they did have access to these other floors, but like for example, I was just in New York and we’re at our office building and like granted this is How big was that building? Uh, I think it’s like 50 or 60 stories. Yeah. Okay. But like I get It’s big. Yeah. But like I I I only get access to to one of the like and when you do the floors, you hit a little This is obviously this is 2026. Like this is different.

There’s no like you don’t go in the elevator, hit a button. It’s like I scan my key card, I get led in, and then I click what floor I’m going to, and it tells me what elevator to get into, and then it’ll give you up to a maximum of six floors that it’ll stop at at a maximum. Oh, okay. Okay. But then the middle is like floors X to X, the left is floors X to X, and then the right is floors X to X. Yeah. Yeah. So, it’s like if you’re trying to get to like my floor, you have to go in the middle ones and then you select it on a on a tablet and then it’ll send you like there’s no like buttons.

So, back then it’s very likely that like you just get in the elevator and you click a button. So, maybe they did have access. I don’t know if there was like a fob system where it’s like you can’t get to other floor. My point is like I don’t know if they were able to get to other floors via their elevator system or not. Yeah, I guess. Maybe they were. Maybe they maybe they just hit like oh floor four and like they just takes him there. Okay, it’s possible for sure, but I it’s just it’s not a lot of There’s another story in this about a man named William Rodriguez.

Rodriguez was a janitor at the North Tower, a 20-year employee who held the master key to every stairwell in the building. On the morning of 911, he was running roughly a half hour late. Instead of being up on his usual floor, he ended up reporting to a basement office at level B1. Once the towers came down, Rodriguez spent that morning repeatedly running back into a collapsing building to pull people out, using that master key to open the stairwells for firefighters and survivors. What a baller. I love this guy. He was, by most accounts, the last person out of the North Tower alive. Oh my god.

Yeah. Puerto Rico gave him a national hero word for it. Hell yeah. Yeah. Good. Good to you, Puerto Rico. Yeah, this guy deserves it. I hope he’s like living in like a mansion beachside right now. Yeah. Rodriguez has said consistently since the very day it happened that before he heard or felt anything connected to a plane, he heard and felt an explosion coming from beneath his feet. Interesting. In his words, the floor vibrated. The walls started cracking and the ceiling came down around him. Holy [bleep] And he says all of this happened in the subb levels. Yeah. So I I highly doubt a plane hitting 100 stories above you is going to cause the subb to shake.

[clears throat] Yeah. Moment seems like a stretch. Yeah. Moments later, a coworker named Phipe David stumbled into the same office with the skin burned off his face and arms. Oh my god. Rodriguez has asked the same question publicly for 20 years. How does a plane hitting the 93rd floor burn his coworker’s face in the basement? I I don’t know the answer to that question cuz even I know they mentioned like the gas went down like so maybe I was thinking like some some sort of gas like kitchen not gas but it’s fuel. smell like fuel from the plane. Yeah. Yeah. And I was talking about more gas from like like cooking gas or whatever, you know, like natural gas.

And I don’t know if there’s I don’t know. I’m trying to come up with something like some sort of explosion down by also. You would think that like the fuel would take a bit of time to travel down 90 stories. Yeah. To then get into subb B and like burn his homiey’s face off. Yeah. Like so that doesn’t seem like realistic. Yeah. So yeah, maybe there was maybe a gas pipe like got dislaw. I don’t know. May maybe something like that. I don’t know. So Rodriguez testified in the 911 commission. Mhm. Um but it was behind closed doors. And it didn’t appear in the report.

So we don’t really know. I mean, I’m assuming he said the same thing. I’m assuming so, too. Right. I I don’t know how to answer that one. I don’t think we have the answer to that one. Yeah. I mean, it would it would all accounts would be that he said the same thing because he obviously said it publicly. So, yeah. Exactly. And he is like he’s a janitor. The guy has nothing to hide. Like Yeah. Absolutely. And homiey’s a hero like Absolutely. Okay. Let’s go to Florida. All roads lead back to Florida. So, you’ve probably seen the footage. President Bush seated in a classroom at Emma Booker Elementary in Sarasota.

Mhm. Listening to second grade readers when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, leans down and whispers something in his ear. Dude, I I’ll never forget that image. Oh my god. What Card actually told him was that a second plane had hit the tower. He had already been told that a first plane had hit. And he he continued to like because this is at this is at nine now. Yeah. Correct. So second one hit. This is the second one. Yeah. So at this point he knew we were being attacked. This was an accident. This wasn’t an accident. No. Yeah. Bush stayed in that chair. He didn’t stand up.

Didn’t leave the room. Didn’t even visibly react in any dramatic way. By most accounts, he sat there for close to seven minutes continuing to listen to a story called the Petco. Yeah. I just I don’t know how you’d like Don’t just be like, “Oh, hey kids. I’m the president. I got to do some presidential duties. I’ll be right back. Love you.” like anything like filmmaker Michael Moore and we talked about it Fair Night 911 built an entire section of his documentary around why didn’t the president of the United States do anything. Mhm. The theory that grew out of those seven minutes is not really about the towers at all.

It’s about Bush. Some people read that stillness as evidence that he already knew what was happening. H or he didn’t know what to do. I’m gonna go or his account in his later interviews was that he didn’t want to startle the children. Yeah, there’s it’s so easy to not startle the children. So easy. You’re the president. Of course, you got pressing matters. I know. I’m the president and also your the nation’s under attack. It’s okay to startle them for like for you to be able to be available and go handle this. Well, it’s also you don’t have to tell the kids what’s happening. No, 100%.

Yeah. Be like, keep or like you said, you know, you’re like, keep reading, kiddos. Yeah. It’s like, all right, kids, I got to step out for a second, you know? See, that’s why I subscribed to George Bush had no idea what to do. Like, but he I I’m sorry. George Bush is not like some savant like Yeah. No, no. He’s George Bush is like Yeah. He’s a laborer. Like this guy is not like this guy’s not the brains of the operation. Like let’s be honest. He’s a good politician. Anyways, but why didn’t why didn’t the uh Secret Service just grab him and go? That’s what I that’s what I would assume.

But they were they were waiting for him to do something. I know. But the nation’s under attack. Yeah. Nation’s under attack. They’re like, “We’re going now. Get in the car.” Like their thing, you know, their whole thing is to protect him. So like Yeah. Yeah, their motus operandi is like, “Oh [bleep] we got attacked.” Like they know where you are. Get in the car. We got to like situational awareness. We got to get the [bleep] out of here. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know. This like obviously different, but like you know, we all saw Trump uh get when he was shot at and then everybody Secret Service just rushed bum and they all jump on him to protect him and this and that.

Again, I know different situation, but the point is that that’s that’s their that’s the way they operate. You know, they they should have just Why didn’t they Why didn’t they just pick him up and let’s go? I think they actually have the we’re under attack. I think in like those types of situations, they they probably have the latitude to be like, you don’t have you don’t have a choice anymore. Oh, yeah. Like our prerogative is to keep you alive and like at any cost necessary. Yeah. Like I don’t care what you want to do. Like this supersedes what you want. Like we need to get you to safety.

Well, at this and I don’t know if it was exactly at that same moment, but like Cheney and and Rice and all these people, they’re they’re already in the bump. Yeah. But they were all being handled like that from the Secret Service, you know? They’re like, “Go go.” Now, we went over what happened with the president thoroughly. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? From which, you know, he was manhandled eventually after the fact. But like but in in the in the sense of the conspiracy thing, it’s why didn’t he do anything? Yeah. Why didn’t he like any why didn’t he react? Cuz I remember the thing.

It’s like his face is blank. Yeah. Like I I I distinctly remember his face of like I have no idea what to do. I’m Cuz he didn’t I’m telling you. He’s like Right. Yeah. I’m not like no one’s here to tell me what to do. I don’t know what to do. I hate throwing this word around, but even at the highest level, negligence. Negligence, dude. Well, George Bush, like look, George Bush was over him. Yeah. Like George Bush was we got what we got. He wasn’t his father. Like George Bush was senior was actually like he was like a he was a shot caller. Like he he wanted to make the moves, the power moves.

Like he wanted to be in charge. Gdub didn’t. Gdub was just a frat boy. Wanted to party. He wanted to golf. He just wanted to have a good time. Yeah. And but he did it cuz his dad wanted him to. far less less serious or I don’t know if that’s the right word but like I still remember do you remember when it’s one of my favorite political things that’s ever happened ever in like the history of my life is when the dude takes off his sandal and throws it at George Bush mid interview and he dodges it and he like but if you look at his face it’s like dead pan there was no emotion whatso it’s like it’s like he’s an automata I’m like how are you not like pissed I’d be like what I I would you do what I say and he he like continues.

He doesn’t even like he just like continues with with what he was doing. Yeah. Like what the So then one of the last stories that we have is the dancing Israelis. Mhm. Mhm. And um we even post we posted we posted a couple couple clips on it and um ABC released a segment and it was a woman who saw that there were five Israelis. Mhm. Watching the towers as they were hit. And she says that they were dancing. How did she know they were Israelis though? They had like I don’t think she knew they were Israel. They had like the hidic curls or something or Well, they Yeah, maybe something like profiling a little profiling.

No, she didn’t she didn’t call the police and be like, “I got some Israelis here.” She just said, “There’s a group of men.” Okay. And then they they were arrested. Arrested. Oh, and they were Israelis. They were arrested and they were detained and they said that they were just happened to be filming what was happening. But the woman the woman the woman witnessed said that they looked extremely ecstatic like dancing. Now to clarify they weren’t just detained like oh let me question you bring you down to this. They were held for 71 days. That’s right. That’s a lot of and they were questioned and they were and polygraphed and like interrogated.

Yeah. And that’s where it came out that they were like Israelis and Yeah. A couple of them were um intelligence. That’s right. That’s right. And then they did an interview later. That’s sketch that they were intelligent. They did they did an interview later and they one of them let it slip on a talk show once they were back in once they were back in Israel. Yeah. And it was that and they said we were there to docu We were there to film what was happening like document. Yes. Did they say that we were there too or they were like we were we obviously saw what happened and we’re like documenting?

I can’t tell because of the translation. Oh yeah, cuz it’s in it’s in Hebrew. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and we also brought the dancing part like we also brought up that Israeli intelligence supposedly had brought names of individuals to our intelligence community. I I don’t know. Like I always they sent a whole report. I always have like a thing about the Israeli intelligence and like and I’ve said this many times on on many different topics. This is not like an affront against like the Israeli people. They are amazing. They are welcoming. They are beautiful. I’ve been to Israel. They’re awesome. But just like I think America is awesome.

America’s the [bleep] The people are the people are amazing. But you know in the government there’s shady people in our government and Israeli government and every government on earth. There are shady people. It’s just it just kind of comes with the territory. So, do I think Israeli intelligence is like a super ultra shady organization who uses blackmail and and very nefarious tactics to get funding and to get power and to get position? Of course, I do 100%. Yeah. And the fact that two of these guys were intelligence doesn’t sit well. It doesn’t it doesn’t give them doesn’t make it good. It’s kind of sus. So here’s here’s the actual report that was in the 9/11 commission.

Okay, that was shoutly done. Let’s say that one more time. So it was that five Israeli men were working for a moving company called Urban Moving Systems and they were seen in New Jersey and they were photographing the burning towers from across the river. Okay. Witnesses described them as animated. Okay. Yes, they’re active. Some witnesses said they looked excited, dancing. They were detained by local police, handed to the FBI, questioned at length for many weeks, as Jorge brought it up. Mhm. But not related to the attacks, but by the fact that all of them had expired visas. Sketch. And they got a FBI transfer to the to [laughter] the airfield.

The FBI investigated them thoroughly and found no evidence tying them to the plot. But okay, wait. No for knowledge, nothing connecting them to Israeli intelligence at all or the FBI. Real quick, I just want a quick interjection. These rand five five random dudes. I know what you’re going to say. Five random dudes that a lady was like, “Something’s going on. on. They were detained for 71 days. Mhm. Osama bin Laden’s family. [laughter] I was going to say that. No question. FBI escort to the airfield. Money, dude. Money does wild things. But but come on. Five randos, man. And they’re getting detained for 71 days. Money does wild things.

Osama bin Laden’s family, a known person who no who has literally said he wants to attack the country. We’re going to get you a quick swift flight out of here. Don’t you worry about it. First class. Okay. Yeah. No questions. Don’t answer any questions. Private. No problem. So, I I have a paragraph here on why they call him the dancing. Okay. So, where does the word dancing actually come from? Not a single witness on the ground that day. It traces to a USA Today article published weeks later quoting the grieving father of Muhammad Ata, a man who is already publicly pushing the theory that is Israel was behind the attacks who claimed that the FBI in his own words seized a number of Jews while they were dancing in celebration over the incidents.

M that one quote from the father of the man who flew a plane into the north tower is the entire origin for a phrase that followed the story for 25 years. Oh, so they was called the dancing just cuz like this guy said they were said that in a in a USA Today article stuck. Yeah. But the other lady the woman was didn’t say they were dancing. They were dancing. She just said that they were like exubated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I just want to make a point that like these guys like Yes. Well, like this was orchestrated. This wasn’t at the Jason Bourne level.

Like this wasn’t at like the movie level where you’re like these are super spies. Yeah. Yeah. Like like Eric was going through earlier, they did most of [bleep] in their real name. Mhm. like rented a car, a lease in their real name. Hookers. Hookers. Like they have like a real checking account like with their real name. All the all the uh boarding passes real names. Yeah. Like this isn’t this isn’t Yeah. Sure. Like it was obviously a a wellunded thing, but it wasn’t like that organized. It wasn’t to the level where it’s like, wow, how did we not catch them? Like this was so under the radar.

It’s just so like well it’s just so done so well that like they they bypassed all of our security systems. Like I I still can’t get over and I never knew it and so I can never get over the cap system. Oh yeah. This old school DOS cap system literally flagged 50% of the people. 60. Yeah. It was like 52 like 55%. Yeah. It was like crazy. Like Yeah, it’s true. I know. It was like out of 19 dudes it did like 11. Yeah. Like I mean come on. What? Your automated systems are flagging these guys. Like what the is going on? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This isn’t like Grock or an AI or Clawude. This is like old school [bleep] Like so. Um couple things here as we wrap up this episode and then you know we lead into our final summations in the next episode. First off, did we miss anything? I mean, we probably did. People are going to be pissed. I know, but No. No. But from like your guys’ view, did we Are there No, I don’t. Are there Are there or conspiracies that are like glaring that we missed? Not that I know. Not Not any ones that I’ve read. Do you know what I mean? Like yeah, we didn’t really there might be some fringe ones like Oh, there there definitely is.

We didn’t really touch on the CGI planes. I don’t because it’s it’s it’s so asinine. Never heard of that. You’ve heard of it. He knows it. He’s he’s mad about it. I won’t even talk about it. I refuse to talk about it. Like I There’s a theory. There’s a theory that the planes were fake. I won’t even like communicate. I won’t even like alert people to that. Like they were CGI. That pissed me off. Taps my ass. And uh yeah, that the planes were empty. No, no, they are not empty cuz Yeah, the amount of work it would have to Exactly. go into to take all of those victims.

Dude, I know. It’s like 300 people 300 people under these like psycho NDAs or they can’t say it’s just and then they have to make fake phone calls and then and then you have to have like fake grieving family members. It’s just too much. It’s too much. Yeah, it’s too much. So, if you’re listening to a podcast that that subscribes to that, you need to That’s the wrong podcast. Smash that unsubscribe button. Unsubscribe. Un smash the unsubscribe. [laughter] Smash that unsubscribe button. Yeah. Like, give give a little feeler. Where are you at? I mean, this was the next episode, just everybody. So everybody knows the next episode is going to be Sean’s going to have his platform and I will I will just communicate my entire Yeah.

step by step what happened, why why it happened, who I think was involved. Yeah. And like my theory on 9/11 as a whole. Yeah, that’s right. And we’re not going to interrupt him. No, I mean we might throw in a little I will guarantee it’ll be all three of us. All three of us will have the floor. You will speak our piece and then we can discuss it afterwards. I think we’re going to do a 15minute each. Okay. I want the floor. I don’t want to like I want your like me 15 minutes is that’s a thousand words. Oh, easy. So, you got to you know what I mean?

Get get your little book report ready. Cite your sources. Wikipedia is not allowed. So, next episode we’re going to we’re going to fully, you know, and then we’re going to do a poll, find out where everybody else is. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah. Team E. No, I mean, I think I get some some black some black hat robots to vote for you or some [bleep] I I actually think that Eric is going to I think we will all Oh, you Oh, you already have an opinion on where I’m at. I think we will all be in a very similar vein. Oh yeah. No. Yeah.

It’s impossible not to. After 9 hours, dude, if you look at framing it for Eric, dude, just look at all of Look at all of the information that’s available that has been proven accurate. It’s not us making it up. It’s not like some random like on the dark web who’s like telling me what’s going on. They knew something was imminently happening. Some people. Yes. The intelligence community knew something was happening. A few people. Yeah. Why do you keep saying a few? Like what what is this like preface of a few? It’s not I don’t want to I don’t believe it was the entire community. No, no, I’m not saying like the No, I know.

But that’s important. No, but there was a lot of people who had like the baseline No, [laughter] no, but I keep looking at like, bro, give me something. But [laughter] it’s like the people who had the baseline intel and they were being stopped. They were being blockaded. Yeah. And it’s like probably under leave this alone or it’s like this is nothing. Move on. But there was Yeah. But the problem is there’s some people in one agency, some people in another agency, and then some people in another part of the government. And it’s just like it’s too many. It’s too much. There’s too much of a coincidence.

There’s too many. They knew it was going to happen. And I’ll leave you at that. like they knew it was I don’t know. I’ll tell you my full scale. We might go headtohead. I don’t know if Wow, that was a very general idea. It was super general. I don’t have to get into specific. I don’t want to give like I don’t want to give my full teasers. Yeah, it’s just a teaser cuz that’s what the next episode’s for. Why would I just like ruin like the next episode? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But like that’s that’s where I’ll leave it at. Yeah. All right. All right. There you go.

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