Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. What it do? Cheers. Uh, if you don’t know who we are, my name is Eric and this is Jorge. I’m Shom. Hope everybody’s doing good today. Tonight, today. Tonight. Today. Tonight. I’m like sweating hot. We decided that we are going there’s a lot of news lately about Nazis in Argentina and and uh CIA leaked documents of Hitler and or whatever supposed. I mean, they were like remote viewers. Yes. So, there was a thing that they literally CIA leaked documents that they uh remote viewers found the Ark of the Covenant. I was like, “Okay.” Yeah. Sure. And actually, that ties Whatever you say, bro.

That ties into our Nazi lost gold episode two episodes ago. One or one or two ago. Um, penitent man. Yeah. The ark of the covenant. Anyways, you know, anyways, ridiculous. I’m sorry. It’s insane. So, here we go. We’re going to uh we’re going to go through the timeline of Hitler, his last moments, his last day essentially, and then we’re going to go into the official story of what happened uh per the Russians. Yeah. This is for the Russians. Per the Russians, like with his body, that sort of thing. Yep. Yeah. Here we go. So, for the longest time, actually, since he died, a lot of people think he got away, dude.

It’s it’s it’s it’s part of the conspiracy, you know? It’s a conspiracy. I’m just saying. Like, it’s it’s a huge thing. It’s a huge thing. Actually, when you’re the most powerful person in the [bleep] world, it’s like you can kind of get away from [bleep] sometimes. I know. In 1944, it was starting to get a little bit obvious, maybe 45 even. really. It was starting to get clear that Germany was going to lose. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we were still worried in 44 probably, you know, about what was going to happen, but in 45 it became pretty clear that Hitler was going to lose, Germany was going to lose.

We were going to slowly advance the Yes. from Russia on one side to the Allies on the other. And Russia just throwing millions of their soldiers into death. Yeah. Well, and one of the biggest battles was the battle of Stalingrad when that like I think a million people died. Dude, if you if you look at the stats like Russia took the heaviest losses in I think like 13 million Russians died. It was like ridiculous. Yeah. Insane. So just imagine you have world domination in your mind. You’re going to conquer uh the Aryan race. Um you know, you were going to take over the world. Eugenics.

Yeah. And what’s interesting is so you start off in 39 38 I think it’s 39 he starts invading and he does this blitz creek right and blitz creek is basically overwhelm takeover so you go yeah so good yeah so the concept is it’s a military strategy you go I am going to take over your home by surprising you and taking you over instantly yeah with this overwhelming force instantly you know you look at on a map and Germany from 39 expanded to just they took over Poland, Yugoslavia, etc., etc. Like France, they just started steamrolling with all their artillery, the tanks, bro. Oh, everything. So, and this is still 44.

No, that’s actually the beginning of the war. Yeah. And that’s when actually that’s when people were like, “This isn’t cool anymore.” Yeah. That’s when things were like like we have a problem. Yeah. Cuz like the world was like, “It’s not our problem. And then I was like, so the US was not part of it. Um, all the other a lot of places were not part of it. And then then it became real when they took over basically all of Europe. Yeah. They they dominated and then England was like, “Hey, we need help.” Yeah. We’re like we’re just like an island on here, bro. Obviously, this is a very short description of World War II.

A lot happened. There’s other podcasts to give you the full download on Yeah. Dan Carlin’s podcast. Amazing. Shout out to that podcast. It’s amazing. World War One, World War II, you know, if you want to really get it in depth of what it is, it’s incredible. Free plug, Dan Carlin. Yeah. No, it’s it’s it’s fantastic. So, but this this story is about Adolf Hitler and this and Ava Braun and and this story is about what happened to him at the end of the war and did it happen the way they said it? The history have written it. Yeah. Exactly. So, so in about 45, 1945 and about January, the Soviets were coming in on Germany.

So, the Soviets were there first. They they were getting there before the Allies. You know what I mean? Allies are advancing and uh Germany’s like on the rocks. So, up till like 43 44, Germany was winning essentially. They were winning the war. They were [bleep] dominating. Yeah. And so then finally with Normandy, with the battle of Stalenrad, things started to turn for the allies uh and I include the USSR in that the Soviets into that. Yeah, they were the allies. They of course they were but they were coming the other way. Yeah. You know, coming that way. And so anyway, so in in January of 45, Hitler withdrew to his bunker in Germany.

This was 55 ft under the chancellory and it contained 18 rooms. Damn. It’s like a [bleep] mansion underground. Yeah. And it had 18 rooms. It had water, running water. It had electrical, you know, pays to be the furer. Yeah. Jesus. So, he had a whole thing. And this is when everybody’s coming in like the Soviets were coming in and the Soviets were literally at the doorstep. They were fighting in Berlin. the allies were probably like a month away, you know, and so he just kind of retreated. He was with he brought into couple of his little thing. No, he brought Herman Goring and he brought Joseph Gobles.

Yeah, Gobles is like his like Gobles is like Yeah. the propaganda guy. Propaganda Zar like he ran all that [bleep] Yeah. He also brought Ava Braun which was he was not married at the time. Ava Braun. LeBron. LeBron James. LeBron. Braun. Braun. Sorry, man. I knew you wasn’t 18. Nope. So, Ava Braun was like his girlfriend that he never married. Yeah. So, it’s like mistress. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But wait, is is a girl you never marry a mistress? I think in the 40s it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think in the 40s it was your mistress cuz like you would So if you’re not married and you just have a girl, she’s a mistress in the 40s, bro.

Yeah. Like obviously now it’s your girlfriend, but I don’t think they had like girlfriend term because when you’re an adult male and you’re not married to them, it’s like it’s almost it’s almost taboo. It’s like taboo. No, but she’s not a side of anything. That’s true. You know what I mean? We just call her mistress. Yeah, I like that. That’s Yeah, that’s what it says, too, you know, based on what we’re reading. Anyway, so that brought brought Ava Braun, the steady girlfriend. There we go. Steady girlfriend. And so Russia was advancing across Poland. 2 and a half million Russian Russian soldiers came into Berlin. And so I mean like he can you imagine you’re just you’re like you’re done.

I’m going underground. Yeah. You’re done. I’m going underground like this. Like and so okay. So we’re going to kind of walk through his last I guess night night or two. kind of see what happened. Start with the Brandy. No, actually one of the first things that he he did was Hitler was going nuts essentially. Yeah. Actually, so what his like liaison, which is his name’s Herman Faggline was Faggline. I almost said that right. Figline. Yeah, sounds like some of my favorite parts of the podcast is like watching him some of these. He was his liaison officer was Himler’s leazison officer. He was executed that night and for what?

For being his liaison officer. Yeah. But what’s crazy is that Fagine Fagine Fagine Fagine was Ava Braun’s sister or his No, I’m sorry, brother. Whoa. I was like a chick. wife. His wife was Ava Braun’s sister. Okay. Oh, I was going to say like Herman Fagland’s a chick. Damn. Like that’s a man’s name. How ruthless is that though? Like your your lover’s sister pop him off. Didn’t he have like syphilis or something like his [bleep] brain like uh so Hitler didn’t do anything as far as issuing a pardon? Um he was like [bleep] him. Yeah. No, I mean he was shot shot from behind in a in a in a cellar there in the bunker that night.

In the bunker that’s like left the corpse in the bunker. [bleep] it. Okay, so April 28th, 1945 about midnight, there’s somebody named Gertrude Junjun. Uh that’s Hitler’s secretary [bleep] job. And the secretary would describe the atmosphere in the bunker at the end of April as having an aimless dreamlike quality, noting that Hitler had finished dictating his personal and political testament within the like midnight to 1:00 a.m. So like his final you’re all going to die, but not me. Did you do Hitler in a Yes. Yes. in a Roosevelt accent? Yeah. December. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. So 1:00 a.m. comes along. Hitler marries Ava Braun. Damn. Oh, wow.

Just like Okay. So 1 a.m. Yeah. This is a 1 a.m. ceremony that lasted 10 minutes. Is this like for the life insurance policy or something? I have no idea. I mean, there’s some element of humanity, I guess, right? Where he’s like, I’m going to marry you. Or this part of the conspiracy. I know. I don’t I don’t really get it really. Was she was she a citizen of a different country? We’ll find that out later. So the Gobles was there, dick. And no females were there for some reason except for um Yeah. And then Hitler returned to impatiently oversee Junj the the the secretary who was still transcribing the shorthand notes of his personal and political wills that he dictated at the night in the night.

So he basically went married her and then ran back 10 minutes later and was like, “Are you done?” Damn. You know, with the notes like the testament. Yeah. What kind of ass hat stops midwe to run and make sure his last words are transcribed shorthand properly. I mean, maybe it’s a dude who’s wanted to commit genocide on on on a race of people based on like the religion and it was like eugenics for religion. I can only imagine Ava Braun as like such a wimpy character. Oh, for mean like I’m pretty sure Ava Brown Ava Brown’s like the original gold digger. He’s like, I’m only with you because you run the world.

Yeah, I have no pity for Ava Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so they got married and you know, Hitler described his final things and this was in his last transcribed items or whatever I guess will. He said, “I myself and my wife, in order to escape the disgrace of deposition or capitulation, choose death. It is our wish to be burnt immediately on the spot where I have carried out the greatest part of my daily work in the course of 12 years, service to my people.” So that was one of his last whatevers. And according to judge, she was then asked by Hitler to take note of his final political statement.

In it, he decries that he never intended to be faced with war in 1939. And you blame the Jewish people for the carnage. It’s your fault. Yeah. Your country. And this is like the most stupidest [bleep] thing I’ve ever heard ever. I’m sorry. What a dick. It’s a Jew’s fault. I mean, I know just saying what a dick doesn’t really communicate what he did. Yeah. But what a dick. It’s their fault that I killed three million of them. Like this isn’t making like how how self-righteous can you be? Like Jesus Christ. So closing the first part of his political statement, Hitler Hitler again outlined his intention to end his own life, saying, “I have therefore decided to stay in Berlin and there are to choose death voluntarily when I determine that the position of the furer in the chancellory itself can no longer be maintained.” So he’s basically saying, “I’m gonna die.” Yeah.

Yeah. I’m gonna just kill myself. That’s the way my country. I can’t do anything else. Blah blah blah. All right. Good. There’s that accent again. I don’t even know what that accent is either. It’s definitely not like like British. No, it’s like British transatlantic slash. Okay, so April 29th at 4 in the morning, Hitler’s political testament is done being transcribed by Jun and is signed by Gobles Borman and then two generals named Burgdoff and Grebs. It was distributed with three messengers. One copy to be sent to the admiral, one to the marshall, and you know, etc., etc. 500 a.m. Hitler still awake. Yeah. Jesus. I’m like exhausted.

He’s over 40, right? I know. I think he was getting fetamines. He was getting his [bleep] drinks. Yeah. So, Hitler retires to get to 12 and I’m 40. It’s almost 12 and I’m like, I’m out. Let’s stop. Next week, next week part seven. So, uh, 5:00 a.m. Hitler goes to his quarters with his wife, Ava. Now, say it like that. I don’t know. Quarters. Uh, Junge is left to finish typing Gobel’s testament. Dude, this chick’s the [bleep] slave. So, first was Hitler’s testament, his final. It’s Gobles. Now it’s Gobles as like, you know, second. He’s like, “Hey, you know what? That looked kind of cool.

Let me let me try that.” By the way, Gobles was a [bleep] loser. This guy’s a sack of [bleep] An absolute loser. If you want to go read about a loser, you go to read Gobles. He’s like [bleep] [bleep] his way into a job. Loser. Yeah. Aside from everything he did in the war with propaganda and creating genocide and killing many people, right? Uh, at the end he essentially tricked his entire family into committing suicide. Whoa. Six children. What the [bleep] Wow. Six children. How did he trick him? He’s like eating a joke, dude. How do you What the [bleep] That’s crazy, man. You know the the capsule the capsules cyanide capsules.

Yeah. Oh my god. [bleep] horrible. Yeah. That’s That’s really [bleep] They didn’t even know. That’s why I say this is a trick. The Flintstones. Yeah, it’s true. That’s why I say Joseph Gobles is the piece of [bleep] of the day right now. Aside from Hitler. Yeah, honestly. [bleep] That guy gets me going. Um, okay. So, here we go. So, by 10:00 a.m., so that was 5:00 a.m. And so at 10:00 a.m. all communications cut off cuz we’re asleep. [bleep] Jesus. No. And like like Yeah. Well, and like like I mean the Soviets are coming in. Yeah. Like all the radio communications, the towers, the blimps or whatever the um the zephers.

Yeah. Whatever the hell they are, they’re shut down and you know, things are getting [bleep] wild in that bunker. Done. Yeah. So, at 11:00 a.m. on April 29th, Hitler’s valet Hines, he’s got his valet there. Yeah. He knocks on the door of his bedroom. uh sir and for six years it was his job to ensure that Hitler was dressed and up on time and ready to go. Okay, this time Hitler was already awake. He was already fully dressed. He was ready to roll. Hitler’s barber then attended to his hair. The whole crew there super super you know [bleep] super stash right super narrowed up. Give me a fresh fade in the fresh shade.

Give me that bald stash thing. And per his barber he received cocaine eye drops. What? Damn this guy. So they’re like little eye drops that have little traces little bits of cocaine in it. Right. And it numbs your eyes. It wakes you up when you get going. Wasn’t he also getting like inetamines like from his doctor? This dude was on all the [bleep] Super drug addict. Yeah. Yeah. Couldn’t get a heart on. Well, because he’s big time. Yeah. His blood’s so thin. [bleep] impotent. Impotent. Impotent. Yeah. It’s the Jews. Like [bleep] So, uh there’s a lot more about like how he took Strick Nine and a bunch of [bleep] other [bleep] you know?

Damn, dude. He was off the dude. Can you imagine how psychotic he was, dude? Full psycho. Insane. Yelling at people. There’s a great uh German movie that they they came out with and it was called Lastler. No, it’s crazy. It’s all in German and it’s the last days of Hitler. You should actually watch it cuz it’s it’s [bleep] You’ve probably seen uh super like clips. Yes. And memes where it’s your fantasy team and it’s vines guys and Hitler in the bunker. Yeah, it’s from that movie. Anyways, so 2 p.m. that day, Hillary has a meal with Ava and a bunch of secretaries, you know, he’s he starts discussing what’s the best method of suicide.

Um, let’s have a public debate. Yeah. So, he considers shooting yourself the best way. It’s quick, instant, painless. Ava says she wants to be a beautiful corpse, so she likes cyanide. Oh, what a [bleep] dude. So you’re like, “Oh my god, this chick is a [bleep] ass.” Okay, so this this is a shitty part of the story. The whole story is shitty. Yeah. I’m like, “This is Yeah. At 3:00, Wernner Haste is told by Hitler to test cyanide on Hitler’s dog.” And Hitler’s dog was a very famous German Shepherd named Blondie. And um just to test it and go, this guy’s Oh my god, I mean, how low can you go?

Jesus. And so it was described Blondie was put a capsule into the mouth of the dog and uh and then fell sideways as if struck by lightning and died and then there was a sudden smell of almonds in the air. Yeah, that’s the sign in there. Yeah. And so [bleep] piece of [bleep] tested it out on their dog. First out right out the gate. Then uh fast forward 7 hours at that time Mussolini, you know, the Italian dictator Hitler received news that he died. That’s [bleep] good riddens, you know. And I didn’t know that happened right at the same time. Same same like week. Yeah, same week.

So 2 a.m. uh he has a bit of a party. Seriously, it’s a bit of a Oh my god. Like inside the mind of a [bleep] psych. Yeah, it’s a it’s a bit of like a party, a farewell, a drinks for the wedding. So, some some of the guards, some of the SS members, and they said, you know, he was just out of it almost like he was drugged up. Just kind of he was staring off. He was drugged up. Uh they partied for a couple hours. Hitler went to bed at 4:30 that night. Jesus Christ. This guy’s a [bleep] night. Then Coke. Yeah. You’re just going to be [bleep] up for hours.

Woke up two hours later. broad bushy tail. So, so Hitler was up at 6:30 on the 30th of April and he was fully dressed and then he went to visit the garden, see the sun, but it was not very sunny, literally bombed. I know. It’s like [bleep] clouds everywhere, you know. Anyways, and so then they went back into the bunker. And so 12:30 p.m. comes in. Ava chooses her final outfit. Hitler summons writes letter Borman to come into his study where he explains that he’s going to take his life and has instructed his bodyguard to cremate the bodies. Right. Supposedly. Yes. So then at 12:45 Hillary summons him to the time has come and that his body should be burned.

100 p.m. he eats his final meal. Wait, but I thought I thought that home girl wanted to be a beautiful corpse. It’s not really a beautiful corpse. You’re [bleep] burnt to a crisp. True. That makes sense. Yeah. So, at 1:00, he eats his final meal uh with Ava and it was spaghetti with cabbage and raisin salad. That sounds [bleep] terrifying, Matt. Like, why would you eat that? That’s your [bleep] last meal. I’ll have a raisin salad. [bleep] spaghett [bleep] I’ll be like, what a loser. Porter house. [bleep] Wagu A5. Let me get that tomahawk. I’m going to eat the bone, too. Uh so 2:45 comes around and then he gathered all the staff in the bunker to say goodbye.

Goblesman secretaries. Yeah. All that stuff. There you go. Right. Peace out. So 3:30 p.m. April 30th, Hitler kills himself. He shoots himself in the head. Yeah. Ava takes a cyanide pill. Well, everyone else is like, “We’re not going to kill ourselves.” Yeah. They’re just waiting for it. I said I would, but I’m not going to do that. So, Gobles, Borman, all these other guys are just waiting outside. And it was and it was reported that somebody said the following, and I quote, “Borman went in first, then I followed the valet. Hitler was sitting in a chair. Ava was lying on the couch. She had taken off her shoes and placed them neatly together at one end of the couch.

Hitler’s face was covered in blood. There were two guns. One was a Walther PPK. It was Hitler’s. The other was a small pistol he always carried in his pocket. And Ava wore a blue dress with a white collar and cuffs. Her eyes were wide open. There was a stench of cyanide in the air. The smell was so strong that I thought my clothes would smell for days, but it may have been my imagination. And that was from Hitler’s bodyguard. Okay, good. So, this is the important part. They’re dead. No. Yeah. Finally. the important part, right? Okay. So, three SS guards and the valet carry Hitler’s body to the garden.

As Martin Borman lifts the body of Ava, she’s covered in a blanket out into the corridor where this girl or no, Eric Kempa carries her to the stairs before the guard takes over. The chauffeur arrives with gasoline. The bodies are placed in a shallow depression outside the bunker near an abandoned cement mixer. Joseph Gobles produces a box of matches. From there, the SS guard lights some paper to create a torch and sets fire to the bodies. As the funeral party returns to the safety of the staircase, a final Hitler is shouted, arms are raised before they descend again into the underground of the bunker. So man, I can’t believe like they like stayed true to him this whole time.

I’d have been like, “Fuck it. [bleep] this. Let’s get the [bleep] out of here. [bleep] it. I’m out.” Yeah. So Hitler’s chauffeur said at the end of it, it said, “Even after the bodies were burned, we were imprisoned by the very presence of Hitler. We could not get away from the smell. It smelled like burning bacon.” O, that was from the chauffeur. Oh man, that sucks cuz I love the smell of burning bacon. So at 4, I’m not trying to be weird. It’s just like so at 4 at 4:15, Otto sits down next to Junge, grabs a bottle of Schnops, and from Otto, by the way, is that the bodyguard.

Okay. He’s the SS bodyguard. Yeah. Otto says, and he grabs a bottle of Schnops, which the the most disgusting. Have you had Schnops lately? It’s terrifyingly. Yeah. Yeah. I haven’t had Snaps. No. I don’t think I ever had. It’s disgusting. Okay. I never would. Uh so he grabs a bottle of Schnops and he says to her, he says, “I’ve carried out the fear’s last order. His body has been burned. He’s like, “Now, what about you, Jen? Shana, get over here.” Yeah. Snaps. So, 6:30 comes around. Two SS officers managed to partially cover up the bomb crater, or not the bomb crater, but the the the whole uh it’s more it’s been more than 2 hours since the bodies were brought up, and the SSmen have returned to the remains with more gasoline to reignite the fire and complete the job.

Interrogations say that 200 lers of gasoline were used. That’s a [bleep] That’s a fuckload. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that’s a lot, dude. So, the next day, Joseph Gobles arranged 15. Yeah. The next day, Joseph Gobles arranged the death of the six children in the bunker and then kills himself. [bleep] Gobles. [bleep] Oh my god. The next day after that, the city surrenders. So, who where did this recounting come from? Like who gave all this data? It’s interviews from the guards, the Hitler’s bodyguard, Colonel Otto Gun, uh the secretary. Remember Junge? Mhm. And that’s where they’re getting a lot of the information from, you know, and also um either a great name for a movie, Hitler’s Bodyguard.

Yeah. I mean, man, that I’d watch that movie. I don’t even like like that sounds like a great movie. Like think about like picture the scene of that. The last remaining guys and the bodies are burning. See the bombs are exploding and they they do the saluting him as he burns. Yes. I mean this sounds a little opera. It doesn’t sound very it’s very like chaos of life. No, it’s very mean. It’s very like a movie like a movie climax written. Yeah. Ooh, I like this. I like this. I’m kind of like I don’t know if you noticed I’m a little It sounds like a plague.

Yes. Yes. Exactly. The British prime minister uh or he later wrote that amid the roar of the Russian guns, the lured end of the Third Reich occurred throughout that night and into May 1st. The last loyalists in the bunkers either prepared to flee or follow their fear and suicide. Uh we went over the story of Joseph Gobles and how he poisoned his six children. such a piece of [bleep] and like his his wife, etc. So, they’re all just like [bleep] killing each other or killing themselves. I mean, well, I mean, jeez. I I I could never do that. I don’t care what the situation is.

Like, you you had to think like they’ll let the the kids out like off. Yeah. You know, but like I once again, I think it’s a selfish thing like, well, I’m going to be killed so Yeah. I’m going have my family go with me. No, it goes back I think we talked about it, which is the crimes of the father. Mhm. Right. Yeah. No meaning we talked a little bit about that. The kids didn’t do that. The kids didn’t Yeah. Oh, a six-year-old [bleep] put him in prison, but they’re still treated like that. Yeah. You know, this the son maybe not the grandchildren, but even though I think we talked about that, too.

Yeah. We were talking about how how many generation how further is the father? Like it’s cool. Yeah. Like OJ’s kid, but not OJ’s grandkid, right? But it’s like it’s not the same thing. It’s not the same thing. I guess I’m like I when I those situations I understand especially in that time with like the atrocities that happen it being hitting too close to home and you just see the last name and you’re just like oh yeah I know but I mean I don’t know I think about it logically I’m like is this a ch was so like this [bleep] was Yeah but there’s not logical about war they would they would probably just take but there’s such a I mean in order to be like a Joseph of goals the the dogma, you know, like the the what’s the word?

The fervent belief in it. Oh, dude. So, they probably believe that their kids this was an honorable way. Oh, yeah. I’m sure. That’s how [bleep] up. I’m sure he justified the [bleep] out of me. They want this. They don’t want to live with me in the future. In the bunker. I’m sure he’s definitely made it okay for that. Losers, man. God, [bleep] him. Yeah. In the early hours of May 2nd, which is the next day, Soviet troops finally overran the bunker complex and they found the remnants of burnt bodies. They didn’t have no [bleep] DNA evidence back then. Yeah, of course. When Soviet search teams entered the garden on May 2nd, they initially failed to identify the charred remains of Hitler.

Amidst the still smoldering debris, there were multiple corpses, including verified, by the way, body doubles. I was like, they’re like, why is this little mustache on this burnt corpse? One one body was reportedly a lookalike of Hitler and it was initially misleading and some of the Soviet troops thought it was Hitler. Oh, this is in the in the same spot. the same like little grounds. Yeah. Same gardens. Interesting. Springfest deals are still in full swing at Lowe’s. Right now, get five bags of Stay Green premium color 2 cubic foot mulch for only $10. And get up to 40% off select major appliances. Plus, save up to $300 when you buy two or more select GE kitchen appliances of $396 or more.

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Order now. Alcohol in select markets product availability may vary by Regency app for details. Okay. Okay. All right. On May 4th, so now you know you catch up a little bit. So this is 2 or 3 days later. Smaller fragments of a jawbone with dental work and a partial skull were unearthed from the shallow grave of what we’re talking about in the debris. Like the four shot. That was like the closest they got to being able to use some sort of DNA or something. The bodies are burnt. So eventually they were like a couple days went by and the researchers were like, “That’s Hitler. That’s got to be Hitler.

So grab anything that you can out of there.” Okay. So they grabbed teeth, a jawbone dental work. Yeah. These remains were soon linked to Hitler. Soviet forensic experts compared the dental fragments to Hitler’s dental records and the testimony of his personal dental staff who had been captured said they match conclusively in late May 1945 under duress. Yeah. Who is it? Tell me. Yes. Yeah. So I don’t know how much we can trust that. Apparently, the dental work was identical to Hitler’s known dental x-rays and descriptions and his dental history. So, like, you know, you get you get like like for example, if you saw my teeth, you’d be like, “Okay, good.

He he had a a root canal there. He had a root canal here. He had a chip here and had a replacement there. Obviously, it’s Eric.” No, but but you know what I mean? There’s no other person who had those exact things. But leading back to this whole fervor, you know, that’s like they’re really going to like they switch the [bleep] samples on him, you know? Oh, this is this is Hitler 100%. This is verified. Also, the fact that there’s a body double there. It’s like complete like something’s wrong. So, did you grab the body double’s jaw? I know. Like, test it. Yeah. And you got to think like I mean the guy was albeit a psycho, but I mean he he was a pretty good strategist for a while.

Yeah. Like he was [bleep] killing the game like in the war game. So you got to think like maybe wouldn’t he hypothetically like make his body doubles also get the same similar dental work too? Like that would be extremely smart move. But would he think would he think that far? Like Crazy. What a crazy like I’m telling it’s possible. Well, dude, cuz he was I I think towards the end he was so like paranoid paranoid. I think he was so [bleep] like skitso at the end. Oh, you’re going to get tweaker. He was [bleep] get the [bleep] Yeah. You get the [bleep] teeth. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. [bleep] I think it seemed like staring at the windows and [bleep] like [bleep] [bleep] out the bunker window. I can totally see that like being real. Okay. So, per the Smithsonian, what what I’m just I’m starting to I’m starting to like try to to name so in his German accent. No, what I’m trying to do like nowadays is is quote certain sources. Yeah. That are reputable. So, we’re not so fringe. Yeah. Certain No, like sometimes I’ll I’ll say certain things and then somebody will email or or message and be like, “Where did you hear that sentence?” And and I’m like, okay, well, you know, I’m going to start like quoting a little bit.

So, per the Smithsonian, the dental work was identical to Hitler’s known X-rays, proving that Hitler did indeed die in the bunker. Okay. Okay. Despite this evidence, Soviet leadership, Nikatai Krushchoff and and um Joseph Stalin. Stalin. Yeah. and Stalin, they they continued to have like a secrecy around his death. Oh, I’m sure they did. You know what I mean? Like they didn’t just come out and and share everything with the Americans or with the British, etc. They just kind of knew what do you think is maybe a little backdoor deal, little backdoor stalin deal. Like, look, we’re we’re taking this [bleep] anyways. Let us get the easy dub and like we’ll let you we’ll let you let you get out of here.

So apparently the charred remains of Hitler, Ava Braun, and the entire Gobles family was flown out of Berlin by by a group called SM E R SH, the Soviet counter intelligence unit in So the Soviets maybe did do a little backdoor dio and it was part of a code name operation myth. Oh wow. Holy. Stalin Stalin was obsessively interested in making sure and confirming Hitler’s death. So he literally had an operation with his secret crew. Yeah. Bring all the remains on a plane immediately. Smurf. So he wanted to know he wanted to know did he escape or is it like or is it legit? Is he dead?

And were they able to identify Ava also by the dental records? They didn’t have any dental records from Ava. But somehow they had somehow the most important in the goddamn countries. Well, yeah. I mean, you would have, you know what I mean? Like he has his own dentist. Ava doesn’t have Right. It I mean, wouldn’t wouldn’t he wouldn’t it be the same? Same dentist wife. But but it she her life is is not as documented as Hitler’s. That’s a very good point. So, it’s very hard to know. We don’t even know their relationship. We didn’t even know if they had slept together actually. Okay. But my point is how do you identify that it’s her to give credibility to that it’s him.

Yeah. Cuz that would be like if it was her too, I’d be like okay that’s more plausible, right? Yeah. Okay. It’s a good point. Yeah. So he he ordered an inquiry and it was extremely exhaustive. 800 witnesses per them were interviewed as part of Operation Myth. By interviewed he means torture. Yeah. All of which to try to piece together and we went over it, the last hours and what happened. The captured inner circle of survivors from the bunkers, the ones who were like peace out. I’m not doing this whole kill thing. Yeah. They’re like, you know, I’m just I’m going to risk it. Like I’m just going to risk it, bro.

Uhhuh. One is Otto Gun and Hines Ling. Uh they recounted the suicides in detail and that’s where we get a lot of this information. Okay. Yeah. So they rolled. Yeah. They folded real real quick. Dude, the I’ll tell you everything you need to know. Third Reich’s over. Hitler’s dead, you know. Yeah. So they rolled. Yeah. You fold. You fold real fast. You’re trying to make a cut of deal. I need immunity. Uh by 1946, Soviet authorities privately had no doubt Hitler was dead, but Stalin withheld the information and confirmation from the world. So the rest of the world technically didn’t know he was I mean they knew he was dead but there was no confirmation forensic evidence and this just to like put it in perspective here Stalin at this time is still a piece of [bleep] It’s not he was like some like [bleep] great great dude.

Totally is a total piece of [bleep] Some would argue that he’s just one step down from Hitler. Oh yeah. I mean and I mean yeah you know what I mean like just I mean you know we don’t have to get into that but end of the story. So instead instead of them just saying yes here’s the evidence and andor information they the Soviet uh merch or smursh they created their they created their own confusing propaganda and it was confusing as [bleep] In early June of 45, the Soviet army issued a contradictory statement at times asserting they didn’t find it. Oh, we didn’t find nobody’s They literally have a release saying, “We actually never found Hitler’s body.

We don’t have Hitler’s body. It’s not in the Soviet Union, and we have no evidence of his death.” But we think he died. So, you see how [bleep] confusing that is? So, of course, conspiracy theorists will [bleep] run. But that’s what they wanted, I’m sure. Right. Like why do you hide it? They need to create the confusion. Hide in in the hide in the confusion. Maybe. Yeah. For what? I’m assuming back back to the back door deal. Yeah. I mean, cuz like if you really think about it, like look, just look at look at I know it may seem insane that like that someone would do a back door deal with the worst human who’s ever lived, but look at But he’s the second worst human.

Look, look at we did with Operation Paperclip. Yeah. What? 50 60 [bleep] German [bleep] psycho piece of [bleep] scientists that we gave [bleep] immunity and citizenship to help us with Project Manhattan. True. Like those were all Nazi scientists, you know? They were doing sketch ass [bleep] with a bunch of [bleep] people that they enslaved, you know? Oh, see let’s see what happens with [bleep] radioactive radioactive materials around these [bleep] you know our Jewish prisoners. Like bro some so like if that is a confirmed thing that actually happened. I mean imagine it’s like Stalin’s like yo you’re toast. Where’s where’s where’s the gold? Like where’s the where’s the booty?

Like where’s the [bleep] treasure, bro? Like I want it. Yeah. Like tell me where it is. Tell me where the bunkers are and I’ll let you I’ll [bleep] let you go. This is this is I mean should brought that up on our other episode. It is now it is now like butting heads of of the Western world against Soviets. That’s what I’m saying. Well, also this is who gets Germany. I mean this is the start of the the wall. Yeah. The Cold War. Yeah. The building of the wall is because of our you know taking this side and not taking that side. Yeah. And that’s why and that’s why I wanted to preface it with Stalin was still a piece of [bleep] Yeah.

Because literally like right after this is that’s when the so the Soviet Union became a enemy number one. They were like [bleep] priority number one. So Stalin himself told Western officials he believed Hitler may have escaped. So you see the weird [bleep] campaign they’re going on. They if they took the bodies and they went like you know what I mean? Like then he says, “Oh, he might have escaped.” Well, it’s also maybe it’s like you take the heat off yourself a little bit. Keep looking for Hitler. He’s He’s out there. He might be out there. And I mean, he’s got his butt like, “Fuck yeah.” So, here’s my question, though.

And And there’s a lot of this that we’re going to go over, but why would you say that? Like, if you had him, let’s just say like no conspiracy. You took his body and you’re like, “What’s his leverage?” What’s the point of him saying he he might have escaped? I don’t know. He’s a weird dude. Maybe it’s like one of his like a psycho like weird trophy. Put his like jawbone on his like [bleep] fireplace. Well, wasn’t like the this this probably I don’t know. Like [bleep] I didn’t even like hear it. It was like a delay. It’s like a deer head, you know? He’s like, “Fuck yeah, Hitler, bitch.” Oh, I don’t know.

I don’t know. That could be. But it could also just be as simple as like the [bleep] propaganda misinformation was misinformation. That that was their it’s basically still is you know Russia’s like [bleep] MMO they’re operating. Oh yeah. They’re like we’re not going to give away our cards. Mhm. Look over there. You know this is happening and like [bleep] misdirect everything. Yeah. It’s a great point. Uh and these are all verified like a month later. He said he suggested to Harry Hopkins uh who’s an American that he Hitler was still alive. Harry Hopkins, he’s just a US envoy into Soviet. He was like an ambassador kind of thing.

U So Soviet Marshall uh Zukov, who initially had announced the discovery of the corpse, presumed to be Hitler, reversed course and said that it’s possible that he escaped and that wasn’t really his body. Huh. Yeah, that’s clearly out of nowhere. He just That’s clearly coming from up top. Yeah, that sounds like a very very similar to the uh to the um the what’s it the [bleep] Alibaba guy. Oh yeah, Jack Jack M. Jack M when he came back he’s like the [bleep] Xinping is the visionary [bleep] the greatest guy in the world. I love my government. How long was he g for? like he’s gone for like a month and a half like two months.

I thought it was like a long like [bleep] 6 months or something. Maybe it was six month. It was it was a weird amount of time especially for a dude who’s worth $35 billion. Yeah, for sure. And he just vanishes and then he comes back. He’s like, I’m so sorry. I don’t know what I was thinking. Clearly this regime is time to reflect on my actions. So, in July of 45, which is only, this is not very long after, a month or two, Soviet officers claimed that the charred corpse that they did recover was just the double. But, this is from an article uh on the Times of Israel back in the 60s.

The weird weird weird weird theory here though, what if like we thinking it’s like propaganda, but it’s like what if it was actually true? Yeah. Well, that’s what they were like. Like, we’re just telling you the truth for once in our lives. Yeah. But see how they how they [bleep] manipulate it first and they were like, “Oh, we did catch them.” And then they come on with the truth and they’re like, “We didn’t catch him.” But now you know, you question everything. Exactly. Then we exist. The conspirac again from the same uh same newspaper, Times of Israel, uh Soviet reported floating the idea that Hitler could be hiding somewhere in Europe.

maybe under the protection of the fascist Spanish dictator Francisco Franco. I mean, yeah, you’re going to find like one in your same but again it goes back to was this a deliberate mis disinformation campaign from Stalin created in this time to create like the scare tactic or was it truth and they’re like we don’t know where he is. I [bleep] dude it’s not his body I swear you have no [bleep] clue. I have no idea. The Western Allies, initially wary of Stalin’s claims, conducted their own investigations in November. This is how long it took for the Allies to get into Berlin. Actually, from when he died.

Yeah. May to Yeah. to November. That’s when we started to actually the Allies were in in Berlin. Yeah. British intelligence officer Hugh Trevor Roer uh interviewed many bunker survivors and swiftly confirmed the sequence of Hitler’s suicide and the body disposal. His report later published as the last days of Hitler firmly concluded Hitler had died on April 30th in Berlin. I just want to say like can you I just can’t imagine like being in this war. Oh my god. Like how [bleep] cuz this this is not like modern warfare. This is like you’re in the [bleep] trenches and [bleep] [bleep] you’re kbaring people in the face.

Like it’s just oh my god. Can you [bleep] imagine this [bleep] And the uh the average soldier was about 23. Yeah. It dude I mean I’m [bleep] 40. Could you could you imagine like you imagine coming home like after like this [bleep] and you’re like okay you know start your life I know [bleep] how the [bleep] the [bleep] am I supposed to do killed 80 dudes while I was there bro like what the [bleep] but you know you know a after a million hours of studying it and researching it and and and you know World War II you know you did in school and you know we do it you know all the time uh it’s kind of like that like they did the right thing, which was that they finally realized that this dude was trying to take over the planet.

That was the goal. Yeah. Yeah. And so then it was like, “Okay, put everything aside and now let’s let’s all go do what it takes.” Yeah. I mean, we had to to take him out. I know. And it’s just crazy like, you know what I mean? Crazy that they got that far. That they let him get that far. If you if you do research on the leadup to the war, it took a long time. This is a message from sponsor into it. Turboax. Taxes was getting frustrated by your forms. Now taxes is uploading your forms with a snap and a Turboax expert will do your taxes for you.

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But I think now it’s like it’s a little it’s a little different with the speed of information now. Whereas back then it’s like you’re getting reports and you’re like is this [bleep] verified? Like I don’t know. No video, no nothing. Absolutely. Now it’s like [bleep] drunk. Like that’s just [bleep] No, no. I’m just saying like that it take it took years to go like Yeah. to like, oh [bleep] it’s real. And I think it really became real when it was like, oh, they just invaded France. Yeah. So just imagine if that was happening here or now. You’d be like, let’s say Putin all of a sudden is now invading Germany.

Mhm. Yeah. And we’re like, “Oh shit.” Right. Like we would be Yeah. We’re like, “Suit up, boys.” Yeah. Like after a bit, we got to get the [bleep] chips ready cuz like we’re about to like I mean I think I would be a general because I’m a little bit older, you know? Not sure I can. Straight to general. Not sure I can enlisted in general. I have no combat experience. I have no military knowledge. I’m not sure I can. I’m a general boot camp. I mean, I’m a podcaster. I I can help. They’re like uh Yeah, he’s a general. Anyways, it’s it’s it it is wild.

I always I have the same thought like constantly like I can’t believe this happened. Um anyways, u so this this uh British intelligence officer um you know he concluded that it was a suicide and they disposed of the body in that way. Um then in a couple years later, an American team led by Judge Michael Musmano tracked down and interviewed hundred witnesses including top Nazi officials and bunker staff and came to that conclusion as well. Okay. Yeah. So we fast forward a little bit to the 50s. Western governments publicly accepted that Hitler was dead. We moved on and the world we didn’t have his corpse either.

It’s like you’re just taking us off of you know as as we’ve talked about numerous times the least reputable thing which is witnesses it looked like Hitler for sure. So publicly the whole world moved on but there was no corpse to display the triumph of or I don’t want to say triumph but the it was a triumph you know what I mean the evidence of it was a triumph it’s over. Yeah. It’s done. The guy’s dead. Um, I mean that’s same [bleep] that happened with uh Osama. Oh yeah. Oh, how they threw his body off the ship supposedly. They were like, “Well, for his religious purposes, I was like, by the way, we got to do that episode.” Oh, yeah.

Never mind. The body of Osama, dude. Like, that’s a good one. It’s like why? No. No. Yeah. So, but it’s the same thing. It’s like, okay, you just got to trust your government that this is what they’re telling us and we just got to trust that that’s that’s exactly what happened. We got to trust the government, which I have a extremely hard time doing. Yeah. But over anything like taxes. Oh, yeah. [bleep] But around the world, property taxes. [bleep] you. But around the world, whispers of doubt persisted in the corners of the world. In 1956, a German court officially declared Hitler dead in absentia. A German court.

Absentia. Like um Oh, in in absence or like Oh, so he hasn’t showed up dead. Yeah. Yeah. So like for example, if I disappeared under suspicious circumstances. Yeah. After a certain amount of time like, “Okay, Eric’s gone. Eric’s dead.” And then they they do like a death certificate, you know, all the things. Yeah. Like gone girl. Come. You just kind of because also from a legal perspective like Oh, true. You know what I mean? You can’t just be [bleep] missing forever. Yes. Exactly. Your estate, your your assets, your um I mean, you know, it’s everything. It’s even social security, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, if there’s insurance involved, if there’s uh all all No, it’s a whole legal proceeding. It’s like it’s also like you can’t have like for example like you know the factor in immigration like someone could and if you didn’t delete that from the system someone can essence just assume his identity and be like oh I’m this person which by the way is happening so much like Elon is talking about that that’s what I’m saying because like that’s why you that’s why that system has to be in play because otherwise then you on the books you have all these people that could just be dead. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. And they’re getting their social security payments. They’re getting their [bleep] disability payments even though they’re 132 years old. 700 years old. Like what the [bleep] So for decades, Hitler’s physical remains stayed under Soviet control. His jawbone and a few bone fragments were preserved in Soviet archives, while most of his charred corpse was reportedly buried in secrecy at an army facility in East Germany. There they remained hidden from the world until 1970 when a little group called the KGB under orders from Yuri and Dropov in Dropov exumed and utterly destroyed the last of Hitler’s remains. Wow. To prevent and this is what they say to prevent Nazi shrining.

Nazi shrining. You you get the idea of what Nazi shrining is. It’s Yeah. We’re not going to a little like moment like idolize this [bleep] Yeah. I’ve got Hitler’s mer. Yes. Like you know or or the teacup that you get on eBay. According to Russian records, the bones were incinerated and the ashes were dumped with no ceremony into a river in 1970. But like were were they really worried about Nazi shrining in like [bleep] 70s era Russia? I can’t imagine there’s a lot of homies like [bleep] yeah the third rag baby skin head era. No but like in Russia though maybe they just want to like severance from that thought of like associating you know Russia.

This is kind of a weird thing to do like 25 years later because you just get like a little itch to like different dude too. I mean Stalin and then you have power. No, this is like the kids power. These are the kids too. Like these are not they are kids but like 25 years later they were kids. Yeah, they were kids at the time. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Only Hitler’s dental remains, the jawbone and the teeth and a skull fragment were retained in Moscow State Archives. In another twist, those relics would decades later provide what they say is scientific proof that Hitler did in fact die there.

They didn’t have they don’t have his DN like what do they have like a DNA sample for? Oh, yeah. We’re going to keep going. Yeah. So, and this is where it gets a little sketch. Yeah. And this is where and this is why we wanted to do this episode is because there is a CIA Argentina CIA leaked document that’s is a sighting. It’s a Hitler sighting. It’s like the one we posted him at like the [bleep] at the bagel shop where the [bleep] it was. No. So, rumors of Hitler’s escape took on a life of their own. And the fact that there’s a nobody keeps it going.

And the fact that Soviet the Soviet Union didn’t confirm it. Yeah. Right. So, this just kept it going. So, Allied intelligence services were inundated with reports of Hitler sightings across the planet. Yeah. There’s a bro at this at this [bleep] Thomas restaurant and he’s got looks like a [bleep] Why would he keep this? He would just shave that [bleep] off. He’s that brazen. He’s like, “No, I’m keeping it.” Also, is there a a fashion that has been more murdered by an individual than the little mini Hitler mustache? That is never coming back. Never a coming back. It’s not allowed. Yeah. Isn’t there? Um, actually, we should thank him that it was just that.

It wasn’t like the regular mustache or like the pencil stash or something. It’s like, it’s dead. Yeah, the beard, the goatee. I’m [bleep] I’m just [bleep] going to shave it all off. So, here’s a couple that came out, couple of these stories. Uh, one report was Hitler was disguised as a monk with a shaved head and mustache in Denmark. Hitler spotted dressed as a woman in Ireland. He then was also spotted at converted to Islam in Egypt. Converted to Islam. There was another one in Amsterdam cafe. Him sipping a cup of coffee with his [bleep] stash. I love the converted. That say he was in Israel, too.

He’s in Israel. What’s crazy is that this is from the newspaper, The Times of Israel. He’s at the He’s at a mosque. They’re like, “We got to find him. We didn’t get we didn’t get our revenge, dude. Yeah, there’s uh there’s um there’s American newspapers. They carried stories that Hitler was recognized in DC uh having a steak in DC. Uh there were reports of Is that Wagu though? There there were reports of him in a train going to Mississippi. I don’t know why Hitler would go to Mississippi. Uh so ridiculous. Uh, one British academic noted, “Hitler at this stage could undoubtedly have written one of the most comprehensive travel guides of the 20th century as he’s being reported across the planet.” Yeah, it’s almost like the DB Cooper syndrome.

It’s like, “Oh, I saw Sanctum.” Yeah. I am Hitler. So, amid this frenzy, the most persistent and famous thread of rumor places Hitler in South America. Oh, yeah. Particularly Argentina. Argentina. Yes. And so, um, a couple news articles came out and I just want to debunk this [bleep] [bleep] right here. Debunk what? So, we’re going to solve another one today. So, so like there there’s this news article. No, no, there’s this news article going on that it’s the headlines are like CIA confirms Hitler is in Argentina. And it drives me crazy because again, and we talked about it at the beginning, it’s like from a witness of a remote viewer like it’s that I witnessed the remote view.

It’s kind of like that vein. So, so they’re looking for like shock headlines. Oh, yeah. Cells, baby. Cells. Yeah. Yeah. But in reality, we just went over this the 20 different reports of sightings. It’s one of the sightings. Oh, god. Okay. That’s pretty bad that some sort of cred well quote unquote credible source, right, published it. Yeah, that’s right. But isn’t there in a memo of an Argentine secret service and at the beginning of it, it says I don’t know how how accurate this information is, but you do what you want with it. Does that make sense? Yeah. So, it’s like a memo. Like you’re a dude down there and you’re like, “Hey, I got to report it.

I got I got an email if it’s real. It’s it’s it’s typed on a typewriter memo in the 60s and that’s it. Is this like the memo like where it’s like [bleep] Lear Owald goes into the FBI building. I need to I need to I need to [bleep] something something’s got to be said. I need to put a memo out. So simultaneous to this in March of 2025 I don’t you know that’s pretty damn recent. Argentine President Javier Mille announced the declassification of all government documents related to Nazi fugitives who settled in Argentina after World War II. So there were Nazi fugitives. Absolutely. 100%. That’s what I’m saying.

Cuz there was there is like a large German population in Argentina. Uh it’s pretty odd. It’s a little far away. Honestly, the the main people that we caught are we caught them in Argentina. M like the main Nazi people who were put on trial and and those guys are just like, you know, just looking at like [bleep] little big booty Latinos. They’re like, oh yeah, baby [bleep] love this country and they’re like, you’re arrested. [bleep] Got him. If you wanted to look further into it, there’s a great movie, documentary, etc. about uh Adolf Ikeman and Joseph Mangala who escaped Europe using the rat lines. I don’t know if you’ve heard of the rat lines.

These are these are just people helping people, you know, escape Germany. They were caught and went on trial, etc. It’s a whole famous thing. But in March, so last month, um the Argentine president is kind of doing a something out of the Trump playbook. Yeah, exactly. Like release the files. We’re going to declassify this. Whether or not it comes to anything, who knows what’s [bleep] it. Maybe. And then it comes out, it’s all redacted. Yeah. God damn it. Correct. Or or it’s just a bunch bunch of memos of a low-level agent going, “Hey, uh, I heard this rumor. I got to report it.” Yeah. I was at a party and this guy was like, “Adolf, was like, “Adolf, you son of a bitch.” Yes.

Adolf, you son of a [bleep] Y old rascal. And then And then he salutes him. Son of a [bleep] Instead of giving him the the dab, he salutes him. He’s like, “Uh, Z Kyle, I have 12 tequilas, please.” Thank you. Anyways, so I’m excited for whatever that will come. We should plug in AI so we can we’ll see. We’ll translate it and uh No, no, follow us on Instagram and we’re generally pretty good at posting uh news alerts or news all the time, whatever is happening. We are not a news reporting thing. No, but we just kind of forward what’s Yeah. What’s maybe usually with a little bit of comedy exactly and a little bit of AI.

Don’t [bleep] come after us. We say it’s AI. [bleep] give me a break. So, here are a couple of the uh stories of him argentina. Yeah. A declassified FBI file from the period noted an allegation that Hitler arrived at an Argentine ranch by horseback. He rode the horse all the way across the ocean. Another report had him hiding in Spain before crossing the Atlantic or sheltered in a secret enclave in the Andes Mountains. None of these claims were substantiated, but they circulated widely. US President Harry Truman pressed Stalin at the Potam conference in July of 45 about Hitler’s fate. Stalin replied that he believed Hitler was not dead.

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That’s the unfortunate thing is like when you have that kind of situation, you know, everyone wants to, you know, even like even if you want to like equate it to UFOs, everyone wants to see a UFO. So then you start making things that aren’t into it cuz you really want to believe that it is it. Yeah. And you’re like, “Oh, it was. I swear I was.” And you just want to believe so bad that you that it sucks because you know who knows like when someone actually gives the the real like the truth like I literally saw him like he’s he’s actually there but then they’re all like oh filing with the [bleep] psychos you know put in a little psycho bucket kind of like hiding in all those lies.

Yeah. Go ahead. But the reason why this continues to persist is because people did escape. Oh 100%. Yeah. Ikeman was considered the the mastermind behind the Holocaust. Holy [bleep] And he was caught in Argentina. Oh wow. Decades later in the 60s. Oh my god. So if that’s the case, then then it’s very of course. Yeah. Oh, it’s totally possible. 100% possible, right? Totally possible. Yeah. So there’s the the Nazi rat lines, right? So, one reason escape theories gained traction is that South America, especially Argentina, truly became a haven for Nazi fugitives. A staggering number of ex-Nazis and fascist collaborators fled Europe, finding shelter in Latin America via clandestine networks.

By some estimates, up to 10,000 Nazi war criminals, that’s a lot, went to Argentina. That’s a fuckload. Argentine President Juan Peron’s regime sympathetic to fascism and eager to enlist German technical expertise quietly welcomed many of the men. That’s what you were talking about earlier. Here we go. And they were like, “You [bleep] are a little smart. You want asylum?” Like, tell me everything you know. Historical records confirm that high-ranking Nazis like Adolf Ikeman, architect of the Holocaust, and Joseph Mangala, which is considered the angel of death of Ashwitz. He was the doctor that did the experiments, both found refuge in Argentina after the war. the escape routes, later dubbed rat lines, were in fact real with help from covert Nazi sympathizer networks uh and the Catholic Church actually and even alleged complicity from allied intelligence.

In some cases, fugitives traveled from Europe to South America, often via Spain or Italy. Many followed a path through Rome where sympathetic priests like Bishop Hudal facilitated false papers then boarded ships to Argentina. What a [bleep] piece of [bleep] A priest. Yeah. Damn. This shadowy exodus was financed in part by the li the Nazi looted wealth that we went over in the episode. Of course it was finally. So now you knew how much money there was. Well, it’s also you got to do you’re like I’ve got a Monae that says I get across this [bleep] he’s like okay sounds good. So by 46 and 47 an underground pipeline was whisking former SS officers and Nazis out of Europe regularly.

The this is well documented. They provided a template onto which Hitler survival could in fact happen. Yeah. Conspiracy theorists speculated if lesser Nazi officers could escape. You know, like you know the King Dick can [bleep] like he’s got cuz he’s got he’s got all like all the the contacts. He’s got the contacts. That’s right. He’s got the he’s got the loot. He’s got the the gold. He’s got the [bleep] the the art. I mean, would you recognize him if he just shaved his little thing off? I mean, I don’t know. I mean, he was definitely like think about in that time, you know? He’s very well known.

He’s like very wellknown like and it’s and it’s this much of it. It’s this much hair and it’s nothing really changes when it’s gone. And you happen to see him with other, you know, uh, German white dudes around him. Like you’re like, uh, yeah. And you’re you’re in like [bleep] you start to, you know, putting two together. Why don’t they speak Spanish? Why are we eating schnitle? What’s happening? like what’s good? That’s actually what happened is like it became a community and like you know uh one of the ways Adolf the guy we were talking about the architect of the Holocaust the one of the ways he was caught was he was started to give lectures and it was recorded tapes of him talking about the Holocaust.

What a piece of [bleep] And he’s like in Argentina. Yeah. With other sympathizers. It’s [bleep] wild. I know. They were maybe they were trying to like bring it back up like kind of spark it back up again. Yeah. An uprising so to speak of Yeah. Well, you imagine like you’re it’s like imagine you’re so devout for your faith. It’s like even the people it’s like, you know, imagine the you know, you’re like a priest and like you’re like I’m going to go to Africa. I’m going to like preach the word of God. Like you’re so you’re so devout that’s all you that’s all you know how to do is that like you have to that’s it’s the only thing you know.

So, in 2011, there was a book called The Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler, and it argues that American and British intelligence allowed Hitler to flee in return for the Operation Paperclip. I mean, but like in return though, cuz what are they really going to do? Like, there’s no they have zero leverage. There’s like really negative leverage. It’s like either we kill you or you become US. Maybe it was like tell us who they are. Oh, we don’t know. We They couldn’t identify out of you know tens of thousands or millions. That makes a lot of sense. Like I’ll tell you who like the key guys you need for your nuclear plans.

These are the best physicists. These are the best guys. That makes sense. Okay. Where they are. You can go pick them up right now. Makes sense. Yeah. So, here are some theories of how he got out. Yeah. Uh, no evidence of course, but here speculates AI. Here are the here are the kind of plausible sounding escape routes that he could have done. Okay. Break out from Berlin. Hitler would have had to get out of the fur bunker and the Soviet encirclement. Theory suggests that he may have left the bunker before that date, perhaps like a week earlier. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, cuz you got to know like they’re coming in like I know some versions imagine Hitler disguised as a soldier or a civilian to blend in with the fleeing German troops.

Yeah. Others propose an underground tunnel or a sewer route out of Berlin. One often cited one is that he could have been flown out of Berlin by like a small little prop plane. In fact, a few aircraft did manage to leave during the last flights out of Berlin. For example, pilot Hannah Wright departed on April 28th after flying in to see Hitler. Conspiracists argue Hitler may have gotten on the flight and then literally just [bleep] left. If Hitler escaped Berlin, the next stop would be reaching a secure area that uh was still under Nazi or friendly control. One claim was that he flew to Denmark or Norway, which they hadn’t fallen at that point.

Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that doesn’t like check up with me on that is that he would like he, you know, his ego would not let him just [bleep] dip out. I really want to I really want to touch on the on Hitler’s ego like on how it went out like how like you know what I mean? Yeah. But I mean, but ego is ego. You imagine that like, okay, even if you’re the most egotistical piece of [bleep] in the universe, like I think the the psycho, well, the B I think I think the base form of of of like egoism, like you know, that is narcissism.

And you’re so obsessed with yourself, you’ll do anything for yourself. So like, yeah, you’re willing to [bleep] the Third Reich as long as I survive. Okay. I’m the most important thing in the world. I’m so important. I need to survive. I just think that he would like not ever take it, you know, bend a knee and be like, “Okay, I’m, you know, maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s like, I’m start the fourth Reich in [bleep] Argentina.” The fourth rake. No, that’s true. Maybe maybe to him it was not like giving up or whatever. He was just like, “Oh, we’re moving over here.” Yeah. This is new new new base.

Yeah. But I see what you’re saying like cuz he was like so like I can see be like, “Oh, [bleep] come.” But that but it also leads to the same thing. is like, “Then why would he kill himself for the same purpose?” Like, if his ego was that big, you wouldn’t kill yourself. You’d just [bleep] go out in the blade of glory. True. You’d be sitting there on the [bleep] on the on the top of the hill [bleep] come get me, [bleep] Right. Right. Yeah, I could see that. I question everything, bro. I literally just go against anything anyone says. Oh, you make a great point.

Well, let’s look at the flip side. So, Allied intelligence files contain one report of a Hitler sighting in Denmark. Okay. So, if you wanted to go with the the theory that he took a plane out, there is one, you know what I mean? One sighting around the time. Yeah. Around the time. But again, you take the sightings, you know. Yeah. There’s like a 0.001% chance from Scandinavia. It is supposed he could then depart by sea or air for a more distant refuge. Another theory has Hitler taken to Bavaria or Austria perhaps to go to the mountain retreats um and then south to Italy. Some fringe and I love these.

I love the word fringe. Speaking my language. Uh there’s a secret German Antarctic base. Yeah, probably not. You remember cuz he was looking for the the Holy Grail. The Holy Grail. He’s looking for the ark. Yeah, he’s looking for any sort of like ancient technology. Yes. Exactly. So again, you see the the imagine if like just just bear with me here. Imagine if there was like some sort of like ancient power that was like legit. Uhhuh. Like I love it. That’d be kind of cool. That kind of leads to your whole like, you know, ancient lost technology. I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. The Atlantanss, the [bleep] I know.

Uh another theory is that he took a Ubot Oh, yeah. to South America. Um, nearly all escape scenarios converge on the idea that Hitler ultimately traveled by submarine across the Atlantic. And their submarines were super top tier. Like they were [bleep] like elite. Absolutely. And there is a report of two Germanot that mysteriously showed up in Argentina. So there is a report of these boats arriving in Argentina in uh, you know, August of 1945. So, I mean, that seems like a pretty that somebody’s on it. That seems pretty logical. I don’t know if it was Hitler, but somebody’s on it. I mean, got to be right.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that that’s the route I would take. Like, I’m not going through the sky. I know. I’m not going on a boat. I’m going under like incognito mode. Yeah. Like, I’m going That seems a little more real that he would take that. And also like Okay, so it’s in August, so he was in hiding for a few months. Yeah. Yeah. Uh kind of like maybe like living in [bleep] [bleep] closets and [bleep] just you know what I mean like [bleep] Yeah. Maybe he’s just like waiting it out to like really uh you know work out the system or the rat rat the rats [bleep] whatever.

Just wait out the whole World War II thing. Don’t forget it’s going to calm down. It’s not that big of a deal. It’s going to simmer down a little bit. I’ll just do art until then. Some paintings to my dog. [Laughter] Uh, the tales often place Hitler in a remote ranch or estate in Patagonia, which is in South America. Um, it’s a sparsely populated southern region of Argentina where he could live out his final days in secrecy. Argentina’s vast German immigrant population and its pro-axis leaning makes this setting kind of plausible. Yeah. Specific loces repeatedly surface in the stories. For instance, there’s a mansion uh in Lake Naul ahapi in the Argentine Andes is alleged to have hosted Hitler.

Some conspiracy accounts even claim that Hitler and Ava Braun had two daughters in Argentina and they lived under pseudonyames until 1962 when he did die simply from old age. So, can you imagine like you’re married and then like been married for like 25 years and then all of a sudden your wife’s like, “Honey, um I’m Hitler’s daughter, dude.” Oh my god. Like what the [bleep] I mean, how like how can you even accept? I don’t even know. Like, do you like fight her? Do you kill her on the side? I don’t know. What do you do? What do you do? What do you uh So, in 62, he would have been 73.

Okay, that’s fine. Hey, I It’s about It’s about right. I guess. Yeah. Checks out old age. Checks out. All the all the amphetamines and [bleep] like Yeah. The body they’re going to last much longer, man. That one Well, we I think we had to take it down. That one post of him like at the Olympics [bleep] tweaking, dude. I know. [bleep] Tik Tok. The We should have done like if you wanted to go deep into Hitler’s life. Like he was a drug addict. Oh, for sure. Yeah. He had he was on a huge cocktail of of different kinds of drugs and he had all sorts of problems and he was like, “Well, drugs cause problems.” So, makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. So, there’s a couple other like stories about this. Um, you know, in 1954, there was a an informant supplied a grainy photograph of himself, almost like a selfie with with a guy that looks like Hitler. Okay, I would love to see the selfie. However, the CIA ultimately dismissed the report as unsupported and fantastic. Um, but again those FBI files, like you can actually go to fbi.gov or even cia.gov and there’s there’s you could search Hitler and there’s a bunch of memos and stuff. Oh, wow. Of like sightings. Yeah. Sightings. Yeah. Um, again, stories of him in Ireland, Argentina, just everywhere. Yeah. And then and then I wanted to bring up um cuz I watched it and it’s very long.

But if you’re if you’re into it and you want to look further, there’s the Hunting Hitler series. Oh yeah. You say that it’s like literally nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Um again, it was 2015. There are three seasons of it. Uh the Docu Entertainment I love that. Docu Entertainment uh program assembled a team of former CIA officers and war crime investigators and it was essentially to solve the question of did Hitler survive and they solved nothing. Um yeah, episodes took the team to Spanish monasteries, Spanish harbors, Canary Island, submarine pens, Argentine jungles, Chilean German enclaves. um all trying to find the footprints. But ultimately, while it was a hot show, nothing uncovered no definitive evidence that Hitler survived.

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Yeah. But essentially, it became there they concluded Hitler could have escaped, but they didn’t find anything. Okay. Yeah. And and we did confirm that there was 10,000. Yeah. you know, uh, estimates estimates of it. Oh, yeah. Whatever. But like thousands of people that did thousands of Nazis that did go there. So, yeah. I mean, yeah. While this show was successful, historians just ripped it. Yeah. They butchered it. Like they they they said it was bad history and it and it it put us backwards in history because it was like like that’s not, you know, it was all kind of There you go. In essence, the program concluded that while Hitler might have had plans or hopes to escape or contingency plans, he ultimately did die in the bunker.

And what did escape were his henchmen. So that was the conclusion of the show. So at least they Well, I don’t want to say at least, but like they didn’t find anything. So they kind of came to a semi-logical they just came back to what everybody accepted. What everybody accepted. Yeah. acceptance. So again, now acceptance. Now we fast forward to today. Um and today is is is uh you know the the president of Argentina is going to release new files. Uh we don’t know what those files are going to be and it could be nothing. It could be uh smoking gun be like he had a coffee shop in [bleep] nah.

I don’t believe there’s going to be anything on there. Yeah. Nah. Yeah. Yeah, me neither. But in the end, there’s two narratives. One is the history that is now, which is that Hitler killed himself. Yeah. With all his [bleep] stooges or what’s the word? Cronies. Yep. Yeah. There is a sprawling shadow mythology of rat lines and submarines and and finding the escape to uh across the planet. So, those are the two stories. The thing is like that that does have some credibility because of like all like what we did on the treasure episode is like they had all these, you know, they were notorious for having all of these secret, you know, little bunkers with like [bleep] and like they were, you know, they were pretty they were pretty efficient and they were very methodical with like, you know, if Hitler didn’t [bleep] lose his [bleep] [bleep] They had a good chance of like winning.

Yeah. Like Yeah. So that’s what I’m saying. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but they were a pretty methodical [bleep] group of psychos. Yeah. Like they weren’t like they weren’t like half ass. They were full [bleep] full tilt. They went for the weird [bleep] And then last thing is that in 2017 2018 u they did another analysis of the teeth that were preserved in in Russia. Teeth [bleep] last forever. Yeah. Jesus. And here’s what they found. A DNA analysis was performed on a skull fragment held in Russia archives believed to be Hitler’s. The results revealed that the skull belonged to a woman aged between 20 and 40.

Casting doubt. Wow. Between 20 and 40. What a [bleep] what a loose ass range. Wait, but I thought we said that uh I forgot his name, but the guy after Stalin [bleep] destroyed all that [bleep] Yeah, that’s what I thought. Well, they kept they destroyed everything but Oh, but like but the job. Okay, so he was like no trophies except for my trophy. My trophy only. So there you go. That’s that’s uh that’s Hitler. There’s a lot more. There’s some there’s some crazy stories, but the stories are a little bit of a uh again they’re like they’re kind of like I saw him in a coffee shop and it was in a town and everybody everybody spoke German and you know it was very circumstantial.

Yeah. The fact that like it does lend to the fact that like okay there were you know thousands of guys who got out. Mhm. It’d be different if there was like six and you’re like he’s got to be one of the six, right? Like you know cuz like only the only the elite got out but it seems like foot like a lot of people got out. Yeah. So uh questions are would he kill himself or was he so egotistical that he thinks he needs to live forever? I think he wanted to live forever. I think that was like the goal. I think the goal was like harness some sort of ancient occult power and then the Reich lives forever where the Supreme were Yeah.

were so elite. Yeah. I mean, so part of me part of me does think that he’s so he’s so conceited that as long as he lives, the Reich lives. Yeah. But then there’s also then there’s also part of me that thinks that he’s so he’s so like [bleep] off the wagon like [bleep] batshit from all the drugs that he’s like I’m not getting taken. Yeah. Like [bleep] I’m going to end it. Like I’m not you’re not taking me alive. Like [bleep] this. Yeah. So I I don’t think that he would kill himself. I do I know that’s what I keep you know like just keep coming back to it dude.

I think that he would just fight to the end, but then I I do think that he figured out how to get out and those bodies, especially the big doubt is that they found the double and that cast a lot of doubt on the fact that oh, this is, you know, we found him. Strange. Yeah. Yeah. And then um and then the sightings. I mean, it would be like [bleep] the the theory of Tupac went to Jamaica. Oh my god. I know. There’s like a dude to I’m like it’s like what? There’s still Tupac idies to this day and Bob Marley and all this [bleep] No.

And also back to the DB Cooper. Exact. Yeah. Like how many people are going to confess to being DB Cooper in I do think I do think though great about it that if obviously there was ways out. You know that Hitler knew the best ways out. He had to have known. Of course he had he had he knew that unless he was in denial. There’s no way, dude. Like he he of being defeated. Yeah. See, I don’t think he in his mind he thought he was defeated. He just was setting up the next post to maybe, you know, re-up. Yeah. Okay. That’s See, that’s what I I think that like he if anyone could have gotten out cuz there was thousands of people who got out.

So if thousands of people got out Yeah. He had to have he had to have like a sure a sure [bleep] fire way out. He had to have a like the best [bleep] way out. Not like the rat lines. I don’t think he would go on the rat lines. And it wasn’t last minute. He had planned that [bleep] No, he had to have it planned. Yeah. But I the thing I that my the thing I I gravitate most towards is like this backdoor [bleep] deal with Stalin or within Argentina. with Stalin with I think Argentina was just sympathizers but I think with Stalin the Americans like I think the whole like allies [bleep] zone it’s like okay look interesting I’ll [bleep] disappear I’m going to give you everything you need to [bleep] set you up like you’re going to be [bleep] Gucci gang like you’re going to [bleep] be all my top scientists all my [bleep] elite I’ll even tell you where some of my top brass are like you know I’ll give I’ll give you some [bleep] heads to put on the pike so you guys look great.

Everyone’s happy. Like, oh, like you can’t put that negot negotiation past the CIA. Like, they would do that kind of Oh, sure. They’re like, give us some people to [bleep] burn and then give us all your best people. CIA probably knew exactly where he was, you know, for the also needed days there. They won the war, but they needed his him to be dead, right? To end it, right? Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. He had to be dead. But then this leads into which we always I was referencing that to Osama. But anyways, another episode. This leads into my theory what we did on the treasure episode, the the Nazi treasure.

Remember I told you I thought the allies just took it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he could have also been like Fort Knox. He could have also been like, “Look, I’ll give you $5 billion worth of [bleep] goods.” Yeah. Right. By the way, on a complete tangent, do you think anything’s in Fort Knox? Oh, do you think like dude I do think I don’t think it’s empty. I bet there’s not too gold in there. I don’t think it’s empty. Not too gold. Oh, for sure. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Obviously. Maybe. What is What’s the word? Smelted down. Oh, for sure. They smelt it down. Oh, dude. Gold’s gold’s gold.

You think they give a [bleep] You think the [bleep] They take the stamp off. You think the Rothschilds give a [bleep] whose gold it is? They don’t rock. They’re like, “Give us the gold.” Absolutely. I’m with you on that one. Oh, they’re like, “We’ll make it our gold semblance of it.” Like connection. Yeah. They don’t give a [bleep] No. Gold’s gold’s gold. Yeah. Okay. As we do on this show, final summation. All right. You first. So, the question is, is A, did he kill himself? B, did he escape? And then C. So, A, he didn’t kill himself. No. No. Oh, I think he escaped. That, you know.

Oh, yeah. That’s pretty cut and dry. Yeah. After after we go through all these details and and mainly cuz like I was saying that the whole double put a big, you know, question mark on it for me. Number one. Number two, the fact that thousands of others Nazis and not just like, you know, not just elite guys, not just like the elite [bleep] like scrubs. Yeah. So, I think he if like Sean was saying like if he if anybody had that that route, you know, already mapped out and [bleep] definitely it was him. And so, I just don’t think that he got out at first.

I think he kind of like let Okay. It like he was in hiding somewhere and then and then it played out and then honestly, he just shaves his little thing as as a German soldier. Yeah. Even you know what I mean? And then All right. Yeah. I I I totally think that I I do I do believe that that he got out. I I think that he he truly believed that he was the Reich. Yeah. That he was the reason if he if he if he if he survived, the Reich survives and he can start it a new. Yeah. Like that was his mentality. That’s how like that’s how most people who are dictators think.

They think this whole thing exists because they exist. Yeah. It’s not like the collective. It’s No, it’s it’s exists because of me, right? I [bleep] made it. Yeah. So, he’s I’ll make it again or I’ll like it’ll just live on through me. So, I just don’t I can’t imagine him killing himself for that sole purpose because it is the ego. Yeah. Yeah. And the ego is I am superior and I am so superior. that I have to live on. One of the worst things or Yeah. One of the worst things is like he still basically lives on. Like the [bleep] people now, you know, in present 2025, they’re still [bleep] they’re still Nazis.

Nazis, sympathizers and all that or whatever the word is. It’s so weird. So, the funny thing is it’s so it’s like the argument is so dumb. Yeah. Oh, we’re the superior bloodline. I’m like, well, technically if you’re like 23 and me yourself, bro, you’re like you’re like 6% Uganda. So, it’s like you’re not actually like some like superior race. Like, what? You’re everything. You were the world. Welcome to the world. You are the world. So, do you think do you think that he just got out and then he just I think he got out and just probably laid low and just probably just wanted to live out his life.

No, I think that he But that isn’t that the opposite of his personality? No, but I think once Oh, what about if uh so he makes a deal, right? CIA. See, I also believe I also think there was a deal. I think there was because because we like with deal with the scientist, all that that we just talked about. Mhm. But then deal’s done. We got our paper paperclip [bleep] right? We got the scientist. [bleep] CIA just goes and takes him out in Argentina. I like it. Just like you know they just a black op like a it’s it’s like good it’s like good fellas like they take him out of the car he like walks in he opens the door it’s empty he’s like [bleep] and then it’s like shoot in the back of the head.

No it’s [bleep] yes dude yes it’s like those spy movies where they just they close the loop like it’s also you know like you know the meme it’s like the dude like in the church and there’s like the chick behind with the gun there’s a chick behind that chick with a gun and there’s like the dude in the rapture with the gun. No, even in like uh even what was that? Uh the departed like they close the loop at the end. They got to close the loop and and nobody knows. But it just happens. Jorge, you’re you I think because if they did make a backdoor deal, they can never have it come back on them.

That’s right. You got to [bleep] you got to you got to clean that [bleep] And that’s the [bleep] CIA. That is their modus operendi. They said they said born down there to take him out. They said Bourne. They said born Matt David’s in there. [bleep] nuke his ass, dude. And you know there’s just like some old CIA guy. He’s like he’s the only one who knows. He killed He killed him. He’s the only one who knows. I [bleep] killed him. Even that guy got taken out. That [bleep] guy is Everybody’s just closing the loop. Yeah, it’s just an infinite loop. We don’t talk about Black Buyer.

No, it’s everyone. It’s just forever. The CIA is just constantly killing every single The new Black Ops team just kills the old one. Yeah, exactly. Cuz it keeps going forever. All right. I [bleep] Dude, I really like that. I super like that. That actually makes the most sense of anything. Okay, so I told you we were going to solve another one today. I know. I know. I hope it comes out in the Argentinian Argentinian files. Ancient John Stone [bleep] They just needled his toe in like a [bleep] heart attack or something. I know. He was getting like a shave and they just [bleep] like got him like All right.

Well, uh, what do you Wait, what do you think, Eric? Yeah. I don’t I don’t I don’t normally go this this route, but I I I think he got out. Yeah, dude. I think he got out with you. So, you’re buying the conspiracy? Yeah, I’m actually I’m with you. I’m with you on it. Uh, I don’t know about that theory, but I like it. I like it. I love it. I really do like it. I I think he was uh uh more of a drug addict than we think. Yeah. Oh, so he went into seclusion. He was so he he he couldn’t even operate. Oh, he was like that [bleep] Yeah.

Like I think I think he like got out and then and then he just was a [bleep] Oh, do you maybe he was just like sick? Do you think he was like he just died a couple years later? He was from from uh withdrawals or something maybe. Or just Yeah. And he was just like an unhealthy person. What if he was like what if he was like I’m just saying like he he didn’t like do another uprising in Argentina. Like he just whittleled away. Gave up. No, I didn’t see that. No. No. He just like whittleled away. No. What if he was like an invalid at that time and they’re just like they’re like get him out just send him all right like just get him out and we’ll we’ll fake this [bleep] like we’ll just like we’ll fake this or one of his [bleep] you know top guys they were like you know what this ain’t Germany no more [bleep] I’m I’m in charge now I’m the captain of I’m the captain the captain now right no but I I think uh I I think his personality would dictate that he would not go that down that way.

No. Right. I do agree with you. I just don’t see it. I do agree with on that. You know what I mean? [bleep] it just Now, here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. And here’s why. I think he is I think innately he’s a coward. Oh, 100%. Yeah. And so the coward move would be escape. Escape. Yeah. A coward a coward can’t take a coward can’t take their own life. And so Yeah. No. Yeah. So I don’t know. I don’t know. I I mean cuz the age thing like he was in his 70s and his 60s or if he like lived. So meaning like it’s not like he lived to 2015.

Yeah. Right. He was like he voted like he voted for the next Argentine president, you know, like that means Gonza. He’s gone. He eventually obviously he he probably died shortly after. I I can’t imagine him surviving. That’s what I’m thinking. Maybe 5 years. maybe 5 years afterwards. I’m going to go with my CIA, dude. I like it though. I I love it. It’s my favorite. We’ll try to make a clip of Jorge’s literally It’s literally my favorite theory. I It’s I I I’ll go for it just cuz I love it. Cuz it’s like perfect. It’s actually cuz it ties It’s like full circle. The whole system is like tied in.

It’s like everything CIA makes total sense. They’re still trying. They’re still trying to close the loop to this day. People still getting killed. The guy and the guy the loop. They’re like, “We need a we need like a broadscale pandemic to There’s some there’s some conspiracy podcast that open up the loop again.” Oh [bleep] dude. If I die if I die in a my brakes go out in the truck, you just know. No, but uh I was trying to think with like the Russian the Soviet Union, like why would they pretend that they took the body and then say that they don’t have the body?

And I was like, well, maybe they didn’t have the body. I I don’t know. I was trying to figure it all out. Like they did. No, I know. But I mean, you see how it’s [bleep] confusing? Why? What’s the purpose behind that? But what if they what if they what if they at first were like, “Oh, yeah, we got it.” like let us beat and then we’re like oh [bleep] we don’t like we don’t actually have it sorry we don’t have it like no it can’t be that simple it’s misdirection from Russians it’s classic it’s a classic Russian Russian Soviet we [bleep] we we don’t have nukes what are you talking about nukes what are you what do you mean we just pull up to Cuba we’re homies cigars I’m not here for anything else I know I’m in a sub that has nukes what are you talking Um, all right.

There you go, guys. Um, I don’t know. Let us know what you think uh with the new new new news that has come out. Yeah, the new news that’s come out. Uh, I hope I hope there’s more information. I do like Jorge’s theory, dude. It’s I Dude, it it literally sounds like a movie. No, but it sounds like a movie I’d watch, right? It sounds like a movie I would like be interested in. Makes sense. It makes so much sense. All right, I’m going to have Chad BT make me a movie of this. Dude, it a script. Just say write a script. and literally [bleep] make a video, too.

So much. So, who would play Hitler out of us three? Air. Yeah, right. You’re the only white dude here, bro. What do you mean? Like, what the [bleep] are you talking about? You’re like me. I’m like, oh the [bleep] I may be 50% German, but I’m still brown. I can’t be the Aryan race. You guys are the CIA guys that come. We’re going to make a We’re going to make a lowbudget where I’m in Argentina and then you just you kill me. No. What happens? What happens is I kill Eric and then and then Jorge closes the loop on me. Holy [bleep] Second loop that gets closed.

You could make this a good lowbudget movie. All dude, it’d be great. It’s just it’s just me. It’s just three people, three actor. It’s not me. I’m not Hitler, but like it could just be a guy like working at a barber and he’s like Hitler. He’s an old man Hitler. And then you’re the agent, you know what I mean? I mean, you’re the agent and it’s all like dramatic and suspect. You know what I mean? And and there’s got to be some there’s got to be some like cheesy tagline. Low budget. I’m here for a hot cut. Some [bleep] stupid ass. I love it. All right.

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