The Clinton Body Count Conspiracy – Episode #70
The Clinton Body Count Conspiracy
The long-running claim says people connected to the Clintons keep dying suspiciously, often staged as suicides, with anywhere from 18 to 50 names on the list depending who you ask. Jorge and Eric walk through the big ones: two Arkansas teens dead on train tracks, a fundraiser’s plane crash, a White House intern, Vince Foster and the Whitewater mess, a bodyguard shot ten times, and Epstein.
Sean plays the skeptic the whole way, because if you know millions of people, some of them will die, and correlation is not a conspiracy. The verdict lands soft: most entries are way too loose, but the wake of destruction is dirty enough that nobody at the table walks away calling the Clintons totally clean.
- Don Henry and Kevin Ives, the two Arkansas teens found dead on the railroad tracks, and the second autopsy that flipped the ruling from accident to homicide
- The death of Vince Foster, the Rose Law Firm lawyer ruled a suicide, and how it ties into the Whitewater scandal
- The body-count list itself, traced back to The Clinton Chronicles, with totals ranging from 18 to 24 to 50
- The skeptic’s large-network counterpoint, the idea that any president knows enough people that bad things happen by sheer odds
- The Epstein angle and the Clintons’ wealth jump leaving office, plus a bodyguard shot in Little Rock
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Hey guys, welcome back to The Conspiracy Podcast. Yo yo yo, what’s up guys, hope you’re having a swell day, lovely Tuesday. We have a good episode for you guys tonight. This is brought to you by one of our huge massive supporters, one of our rich guys.
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So thanks again, Ashton. I know you prefer Sean and Jorge over Eric, but whatever. He’s not a big fan of Eric. And when I say the Clinton Body Count, this is not Eric not liking the Clintons, this is actually what the conspiracy is called. I’m not saying I do or I don’t, it’s an impartial episode. No comment. The conspiracy is called the Clinton Body Count, like Pizzagate is called Pizzagate. So we’re just doing what we’re told. This is what we’re doing.
So the Clinton Body Count is a conspiracy theory alleging that the former US president Bill Clinton and his wife, former US Secretary of State Hillary and former presidential candidate, orchestrated the murders of political opponents, often staged as suicides, with as many as 50 victims that are connected to the Clintons. It’s a little weird. I’ve looked into this a little bit, it’s a little weird. You know what we talked about last, I think it was the Britney Murphy episode, we were talking about like if there’s too many coincidences it becomes like, okay. That is exactly what this episode is all about. It’s just too many, not really a lot of evidence. If you work for them you commit suicide.
But it’s like always that dude who’s always getting in a fight at the bar and it’s not his fault, it’s the other dude’s fault. Or it’s like people with terrible job history, I’ve had 10 jobs in eight years, it’s the boss, it’s his fault. Maybe you’re the problem. But there was a Congressional Record in ’94 and it noted that the originator of the list of the body count, Linda Thompson, admitted she had no direct ties or evidence that actually linked the Clintons’ involvement. However she suggested the deaths might be linked to efforts to control the president without specifying further. So it’s all speculatory.
So in this episode it’s going to be a little different. Usually we’d go over the story and the history, we go back to childhood and he was abused, but it’s not really going to be that way. We’re going to go over the stories. I have 20, these are 20 people who died that people say are linked to the Clintons. We’ll piece it together, we’ll see how it goes.
These allegations began in ’94 with the release of something called The Clinton Chronicles, and it was a film by Larry Nichols and promoted by Reverend Jerry Falwell. He’s pretty famous in the religious community, kind of on the radio kind of guy. There’s way more to it and I’m sure I’ll get on it. So they accuse Bill Clinton of various crimes including murder. Other supporters of the theory include Newsmax CEO Christopher Ruddy. Former president Donald Trump also kind of alluded to it, like why is he dead, what’s going on there. It was probably in the debates, around 2016.
Man, those debates were so fire. I was never so hyped about anything political. I really did get into politics, that was the only time I’ve ever been super into it. I was like, I cannot wait for the debate. They were popcorn, literally. Internally within the US they were the best. Didn’t somebody comment on our Discord, like nobody knows about this stuff overseas. During this time I was traveling a lot internationally and people would always be like, what is going on in the US, and they just didn’t quite get it. It was like a reality show, seeing it from a third party perspective. It was pretty much like the real world presidential election.
However, because we also cover the other side of this, there are numerous sources that have discredited the theory, or say they discredited the theory, including that Congressional Record, where there was a small investigation done. A couple newspapers, the Chicago Tribune, the Lakeland Ledger. They pointed to detailed death records and the fact that you’re a president, you know everybody. So the odds are you’re connected to millions of people, connected to thousands of business people, and bad things happen. It’s like the seven degrees of separation. When you have that many lines.
So in 1994 Citizens for Honest Government, which is an organization, released The Clinton Chronicles, and it featured commentary by Larry Nichols and Jerry Falwell, and they suggested that Clinton’s involvement in the various deaths, including somebody by the name of Vince Foster. We’re going to go over Vince Foster shortly. But there was this list created and it was the Clinton Body Count, coincidence or the kiss of death, and that list consisted of 24 people, and that was compiled by Linda Thompson. So some people say 50, some people say 24, I actually could only come up with 18. Some of them are super thin. Kobe’s on it.
One of the biggest ones though is Don Henry and Kevin Ives, two teenagers from Arkansas. Now keep in mind, where’s Clinton from, he’s from Little Rock, he was governor. They were found dead on August 23rd 1987. Initially their deaths were controversial and they were ruled accidental, but their bodies were discovered on railroad tracks. The original examiner concluded accidental death. So here are some of the details of how they died. Around 4 a.m. on August 23rd 1987 the bodies of 16-year-old Don Henry and Kevin Ives were hit by a freight train, in the town of Alexander, Arkansas. They were laying on the tracks. The locomotive engineer engaged the brakes while blowing the horn but the train could not stop in time and rolled over the bodies.
The original autopsy was like, this is an accident, they were rolled over by a train. First of all, it’s never that they’re laying on the tracks. Either they were laying there on purpose, suicide, or something else. But here’s where the conspiracy goes. The second autopsy, where they exhumed the bodies, determined that Henry had been stabbed in the back, and Kevin’s skull may have been crushed prior to being run over by the locomotive. How would they know if it was crushed for another reason, maybe if you found a hammer mark or a bat mark. So they were initially ruled an accident. The result, the best intel, was the boys being in a deep sleep on the tracks, incapacitated because they were high on THC.
First of all, not one time. It’s never to the point where you’re going to lay down on the track. But during the second autopsy, pulling the body up, it was found that there was a stab wound in his shirt. In the shirt, not even his body. Well his body’s so mangled, he got run over by a train, that’s a really good point. It’s a little sketch though. This narrative was propagated in The Clinton Chronicles, which accused the Clintons of being involved in this suspicious death. My thing is, he’s so removed from it, how do they know he was on the take from these teenagers who are under 18. I can understand if they did find some drugs and the drug people were like, kill them.
This shift sparked theories regarding foul play, and conspiracy theorists supported by Linda, the mom, speculated that the boys had stumbled upon a drug drop from an airplane, and they’re like, oh we’re about to be rich, of which it was tied to operations led by Barry Seal, who was a drug trafficker. So the allegation suggested that during Bill Clinton’s tenure as Arkansas governor he profited from the drug smuggling activities at Mena airport, and he covered up the circumstances of the deaths to be accidental, instead of that they stumbled upon an air drop and then they were killed.
The theory is that they were smoking weed, they fell asleep, found some drugs or whatever, and they stumbled upon an air drop full of drugs in the middle of Arkansas near the airport. And then they were killed and then somebody threw their bodies on the track. Of which then it states in The Clinton Chronicles basically that Clinton hushed it up because he was helping move the drugs. He was more like the politician, the inside man. This one’s super loose. I mean is it possible, yes, I don’t know. But the mom is on board. Of course she’s on board, her kid got killed, I’d be on board too, I’d need heads to roll. So there you go, that’s two murders.
Next is Victor Raiser II, and he was a significant figure in American politics, particularly known for his role as the National Finance co-chairman for Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign. Raiser’s involvement, particularly high ranking within Clinton’s campaign, underscored his influence and importance within the Democratic circles. This is a real connection. He was basically the key fundraiser. If this guy’s bringing the money in, Clinton’s talking to him 100%. He played a vital role in shaping the financial strategy of his bid for presidency. They were having dinners together 100%.
So Raiser’s life was cut short in a tragic plane crash on July 30th 1992 alongside his son and four other people in the plane. Raiser perished when the aircraft they had chartered for a fishing trip crashed near Dillingham, Alaska. The National Transportation Safety Board ruled the crash an accident. Then conspiracy theories started boiling to the top implicating the Clintons, saying get rid of him. This is more plausible than the train track one in my mind. These 18 examples are a little loose, there’s no concrete connection, no getting drunk with him and then he left with the Boiler Room girls. But the fact that there’s so many tied to them, then you can start making the connection.
The conspiracy theory suggests that Raiser’s death was not accidental but instead part of a broad scheme to silence individuals who posed a threat to the Clintons or who had damaging financial information. Even something as basic as abusing funds for your personal gain. Like he’s buying a Bentley with money that he fundraised, because there’s specific laws about what you can do with money that you’re taking for your campaign, it’s supposed to be specifically used toward campaign.
So what was the cause of the plane crash. Pilot error. He misjudged a maneuver and there was a mountain, very similar to Kobe’s death, the helicopter. There was this whole conspiracy that it was foggy, he didn’t know what was up or down for like five minutes. From what I could tell, Clinton was not in Alaska and was not in the plane, and there was not a lot of ties to whether or not he had the plane crash into the mountain. It’s more like a mechanical thing, that’s something you can mess with, otherwise you’re talking about the pilot had to commit suicide just to do it, with the kid. But the connection, the coincidence. After like the eighth story, holy cow, I do not want to be friends with Bill Clinton.
So then there’s Ian Stuart Spiro, and his life and death present a complex picture intertwined with allegations and tragedy. He was a commodities broker and he led a seemingly ordinary life until a series of events culminated in his own demise. Spiro’s life took a dark turn when he committed a heinous act by shooting his family in their home before ending his own life through cyanide poisoning. Initially deemed a murder-suicide driven by his financial woes, Spiro’s case took a startling turn when it was revealed that he was an American and British intelligence liaison officer.
It’s called a liaison officer, that’s the title. This revelation sparked a flurry, and some alleged that Spiro’s ties to intelligence agencies implicated him in covert operations that threatened the powerful interests that be. And then he also had connections to the Clintons, being a commodities broker doing deals with the Clintons, making like 100 deals, 100 to a million dollars in like five years. It’s so funny how politicians always have the best trading record, the best investment records. I follow this one, it’s called like whales, it shows all the politicians like, oh they just happen to be all financial geniuses.
Somewhere I saw their worth before they got into politics. I think Nancy Pelosi’s went up like 500 million, some obnoxious amount. But Clinton was worth, it was like 5 million to literally like 177 million, it was a ridiculous jump. And that was when he was president, and this is before he got into office. They’re considered a low-end billionaire now, the Clintons, like 1.1 billion, but that’s also branding too. You ever see Silicon Valley, where the guy hovers just above a billion, he went below a billion and he was freaking out.
So in 1997 a woman by the name of Mary Mahoney, she was a former White House intern, she died in the summer of 1997. She was working at a Starbucks and she was a White House intern in DC. Mahoney was a victim of an attempted robbery that ended her life. During the robbery Mahoney bravely attempted to disarm the assailant but was fatally shot in the process. What a badass though, good for her. The incident then sparked conspiracy theories alleging that Mahoney’s murder was connected to the Clintons due to her association at the White House.
The thing is, I feel like we’re always one piece of information short for it being a legit conspiracy, like just one little crumb. The only tie that I really see is that she worked in the White House. A lot of these things, Monica got a full-time position, she was on the payroll, she had benefits, more than one. Another one was Vince Foster. He was a respected attorney and the former colleague of Hillary. They were at the Rose Law Firm. And this is right when he became president. His body was discovered in Fort Marcy Park, Virginia, with a gunshot wound to the head.
Multiple investigations happened and concluded that he died by suicide, but conspiracy theorists suggested foul play, and they say that Foster possessed damaging information about Hillary at the Rose Law Firm. My thing is, if it would have been gun in hand, GSR, in his dominant hand, temple, instead it’s like you got shot in the back of the head. So part of the thing is that Hillary was the first female associate at the Rose Law Firm and he was a lawyer there. No concrete evidence exists to substantiate it. We’re at six or seven now, some are more connected, some are really loosey, but they still keep dying.
But there’s something called the Whitewater controversy and I want to tell you a couple minutes about that because that is what Vince Foster is tied to. The Whitewater scandal is a political scandal that happened in the ’90s, and it began with an investigation into the real estate investments of Bill and Hillary Clinton and Jim McDougal in something called the Whitewater Development Corporation. It was basically a failed business venture that started in the ’70s, and the purpose of it was to develop vacation properties along this river in Arkansas.
The idea was that they did some messed up stuff, basically somehow they made money off of a failed enterprise, like money laundering. Back to the drug running thing, back to the Narcos. Basically the Clintons knew a savings and loan company and they were like, hey we know these folks, they’re going to hook us up. The end result was that no criminal activity was found, but it was more like schmoozing, like if you knew the guy you can get a loan ahead of the other guy, and then you can buy this property, and then the business failed and the bank’s out. All the legal work was done by the Rose Law Firm, which is where Vince Foster worked. Vince Foster might have been like, this is weird, what about this little crumb of data here.
And not only that but there’s another guy who died named Jim McDougal. Jim McDougal was the business partner. So two people connected to the Whitewater thing died mysteriously, and then they got over their debt and it was not a big deal, but it was hundreds of thousands of dollars in the ’70s and ’80s, which is like millions now. A very short explanation of what happened. But what they found was no illegal activity, just schmoozing, and they decided not to prosecute further, just negligence and typical politics.
Next person, Jerry Parks. Jerry Parks was the head of security for Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign in ’92. So this guy has seen Bill Clinton’s balls 100%. He’s the dude at the hotel being like, Bill’s going to go to bed but can we skirt somebody in the side. Tell Hillary I need to sleep separately tonight, it’s a back problem, I got to read my notes on my speech, if I don’t sexually release every four days I cannot run the country.
So Jerry Parks was head of security for his presidential campaign in ’92, and in ’93 while leaving a restaurant in Little Rock he was ambushed, fatally shot 10 times by an assailant in another car. It was a drive-by in Little Rock. His son Gary alleged that Jerry possessed a dossier on Clinton’s misdeeds and was planning to do a tell-all book, a blackmail scheme. That makes some sense, to ambush a guy and shoot him 10 times. That’s the one that sounds most legit. How many drive-bys are there in Little Rock. That’s not even a drive-by, that’s like a park and shoot and then drive away. 10 times is a lot. You want them dead, you’re trying to guarantee, this is not an accident, make sure, kill him. Probably it was a rifle, 30 round mag.
So Edward Eugene Willey Jr was a Clinton fundraiser, and in 1993, again right when he’s being elected president, all these people are dying in ’93, ’94, ’92, right after he’s in. His wife accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault. After the allegations came, Edward’s body was found, an apparent suicide. Too many coincidences. I also think when you’re in his position of power and you’re so untouchable, you get so brazen, you’re willing to do anything, you’re like I’m invincible.
Now to be fair, he had recently been found out that he also acknowledged embezzling a quarter million dollars from clients. So there’s a possibility. Just imagine, you admit that you embezzled a quarter million dollars, you’re going to prison, your life’s done, then your wife’s like, hey Bill Clinton sexually assaulted me. So then he was found in the woods with a gunshot wound. I’d be in a shitty place if my wife’s like Bill’s touching me and I’m going to prison. What do you want to do, go to jail or kill yourself. I’m definitely not going to jail, I’m way too soft, I’m going in the woods.
Ronald Brown was the United States Secretary of Commerce during the first term of President Clinton. He’s on the staff, in the cabinet, it’s a big role, you’re meeting with the president weekly. He was also the chairman of the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, so they’re tight. He was also the first black man to do it, good for you brother. In ’96 he died in a plane crash in Croatia. Another plane crash. Keep in mind 34 other people died in that plane crash, so it wasn’t just him going on a fishing trip. So we’ve got two plane crashes and three bullet suicides, we’re running a little trend here, and a couple of teenagers that were high.
In the early ’80s the THC content of weed was far less than it is now, and people aren’t incapacitated. Jim McDougal we talked about a little bit, they were associated with the Clintons during the Whitewater. In ’98 he died of a heart attack, so super loose, the guy just died. There is the concept though, in a lot of the early 2000s spy movies, of heart attack death. It was like they had a heart attack, or they shot him in the toe with a needle and then they died of a heart attack, you get a crazy heart arrhythmia. It was a very hot thing in the ’90s, maybe for a reason. The theory is that because he was part of Whitewater, he probably had some juice. I don’t know if the heart attack was actual or induced, but he had the juice for sure.
Then there’s Seth Rich. He’s a part of the Democratic National Committee, he died in an unsolved murder case in 2016, another drive-by, and conspiracy theories actually came out in the WikiLeaks suggesting that he was also murdered. But again, just because you’re part of the DNC. Another loosey loosey. When you’re involved in politics, everybody’s shady on both sides of the coin, it’s not just Democratic, it’s also Republican, they’re all shady.
I jumped ahead a little bit but there’s also JFK Jr, we had to put a Kennedy in here because we don’t have episodes without Kennedy. The idea behind the Kennedy thing is he died in a plane crash in ’99. That plane crash is super sketchy. We were going to do an episode just on that. The idea is that he was going to be a political rival, take him out. He’s got the name, he was a handsome dude, charismatic.
Then there’s Victor Thorn. Victor Thorn was a staunch anti-Clinton conspiracy theorist, he wrote many books, like four or five, on just how the Clintons are criminals. The official verdict of him is he died by suicide, of course he did. Back of the head shot, shot in the spine, self-inflicted.
So let’s talk about Epstein for a second. Clinton was on the planes, 100% proven fact. How much do you think Clinton knew Epstein, personally, were they homies, texting each other. I think they were texting, sending pics, like look at my new squeeze 2015. They had iPhones, I guarantee they were texting. So this is a big one in this conspiracy, which is that of course he knew Ghislaine and he knew Epstein. A lot of people, I bet if we did a poll and we put Clinton as a possible person to orchestrate, he’s going to get some votes. If I were to guess one person who was the most frequent person at the island, I would say Clinton. I think Clinton probably had his own suite there, the Clinton Suite, he had a key, he was like premier silver status, like frequent flyer miles.
He’s definitely at the top of the list. This is so far after his presidency, he’s an old guy now, but now he’s quarter billion. You imagine having a quarter billion dollars in your bank account. I’d be calling you guys from the satellite phone for the podcast, I’d be in the middle of the Atlantic, sorry boys. So what do you think, did he have anything to do with Epstein dying. I personally do, I think he definitely pulled some strings or applied pressure, maybe he was in a group, like a cabal. I totally think Clinton was really into it but not responsible, like not the one doing the dirty work himself. When you’re worth a quarter billion you’re not doing the dirty work yourself. I think he was part of a group that was like, we can’t risk the tapes getting out.
There’s a couple others including Kobe Bryant. There’s no evidence but of course, he passed away with his daughter in the helicopter crash, and other people too. The idea is they were linked semi-financially, just imagine you were tied to all these fundraising campaigns and all of these foundations that he supported at some point, that’s the loosest connection that you could find. I think it was big Pharma that killed Kobe, but that’s me. Because there was this whole thing about how Kobe Bryant was either speaking out against it, or they wanted to recruit him to promote it, and he was like no. There’s something I’ve got to reread, but there was this whole conspiracy. We’re going to have to do a whole another episode on that. That one’s tough, mainly because the daughter, I get torn up on the daughter. Besides him cheating on his wife and buying her a Lambo for it, he was a good dude.
And then one of the last ones I have on here is somebody by the name of Jovenel Moise, and Jovenel Moise was the president of Haiti, and he was assassinated in 2021, and it kind of plunged the nation into chaos. But the conspiracy behind it is that he knew and was connected with Hillary when she was Secretary of State, and that was where a lot of the sex trafficking happened, through Haiti into the United States. So loose, but he was assassinated and again it’s somebody who’s connected to the Clintons. So that’s the list of coincidence right there.
This reminds me, before they took it off HBO we used to watch it before bed because it’s easy watching to go to sleep to, the Ocean’s movies. In the original Ocean’s Eleven, when Danny Ocean is getting out of prison, they’re like, you’ve been charged with all these things but only convicted the one time. Is it just you only got caught this one time. It’s all these things but they’re never charged. How much stuff needs to happen around you for people to be like, oh yeah, the wake of destruction, and you’re like it’s not me, I didn’t do anything. And we did look it up, before they got into politics back in the ’70s and ’80s they were worth about a million, one to two million, which is still good. And when he went into office he was about 5 million, and it’s debatable what they’re at now, but when he left office we know for sure it was over 100 million, in the late ’90s. Some people say it’s a quarter billion now, all the way up to a billion based on branding. They’re probably pulling 50 grand a speech or more.
I’m going to go first here because I usually go last. I feel like a couple of these actually happened. I don’t think they murdered 200 people. The real conspiracy is I think these people are alive, they faked the deaths. I feel like they’re connected to Epstein. That’s a big claim, a huge claim. I’m saying the Clintons are connected to Epstein. And some of these other ones like the Kobe stuff, JFK Jr, that’s pretty farfetched. Also, just because somebody went and killed themselves in the woods doesn’t mean they went and pulled the trigger themselves, but they could have done something horrible to facilitate that, like hey, you have two options, one we’re going to kill your family, or you can do what you got to do.
So I think they’re involved in some of these but not necessarily in directly pulling the trigger or crashing the plane into the Alaskan mountain. Obviously I don’t think they were directly involved in any of these. It’s all indirect, when you’re a former president you have to be hands off. You’re not some broke guy who’s like I’m going to kill this guy. I would say there’s Epstein for sure, and then the bodyguard. What about the business partner, but that happened later, like ’98, why didn’t you handle that earlier. Maybe when the Epstein stuff came out, that was like 2015, they had something on him to damage him. Or maybe towards the end of his presidency, McDougal’s like, oh he’s rich as anything, I’ll blackmail him. Plata o plomo, you want the money or the bullet.
The interesting part of the Clintons is, and I don’t really care about people’s personal lives, but Hillary knows about his proclivities, everyone on Earth knows. It’s got to be way more than that, way worse. What about her, I guarantee she’s into some weird stuff, or maybe she’s asexual, like zero, you’re not into intercourse whatsoever. My thing is, and don’t quote me on this, I feel like she’s way worse than Bill. She seems smart. She’s the one pulling the strings, she’s the wrangler. I feel like she’s not into the sex stuff, she’s like the one who’s like, let me just beat someone for my pleasure, dominant, cat o’ nine tails, weird stuff. There’s no proof, this is just my perception. I think if anybody’s behind this it’s more her. He’s just kind of a happy-go-lucky goofy guy leaving a trail of evidence, and she’s coming behind and sweeping. He’s like the son of a billionaire who’s an idiot, like Bill stop messing up, you’re on timeout.
And she wouldn’t have run for president because she wouldn’t have won back then when he did, so he had to do it. I think she’s behind everything on him. Why didn’t she leave him. As a woman, in order to be president you have to be married. Name one president who wasn’t married when they were elected. It’s optics, family stability. She was thinking with the future, she already knew she wanted to run for president, she knew she couldn’t at the time, so Bill had to. She’s got the clout of her husband. I think she could have gotten away with it if she divorced him, because everybody was outraged he was being impeached. But imagine if she divorced Clinton, the 2024 run, like no way. Well she lost anyways. But she was supposed to win by a landslide.
So let’s talk about the Clinton Body Count conspiracy. We just listed out 18 body stories. First of all, like we’ve been saying, it’s only a coincidence until it happens over and over and over, and everybody’s so close to them, so it’s not a coincidence, there’s some foul play going on. Some of these are coincidence and some of these don’t even fit, like Kobe. So I think she was the one orchestrating some of these connections behind him. I bet he didn’t even know some of this stuff was going on, probably. I equate Bill Clinton to George W Bush, he’s somebody you’d love to have a beer with, go to a baseball game, go bowling with, and that’s about it. I’d definitely ask, hey do you have anything to do with 9/11, he’s like, what’s that.
There’s so much that’s not concrete about all this that it’s kind of hard to formulate any kind of opinion, except that for me, that’s my opinion, she was behind it. My opinion is that there’s too many strings to them to not be involved in at least a few. I don’t think all of them are. And by the way, we didn’t include all of them, it goes up to 50. So I think they’re involved but they’re loose. There’s too many for them to have completely clean hands, and we already know that they’re shady. We don’t need to have hard facts for them to amass hundreds of millions of dollars in net worth in four years without doing some shady stuff, without abusing your connections. I don’t like the numbers.
Obviously we can say that about any politician because they’re all doing it, all corrupt. They didn’t go out and start a skin brand that killed it on Amazon, or start Mint Mobile with Ryan Reynolds. They did nothing and magically worth half a billion. So I think they’re involved in some, not all. Do you put more weight to before presidency or after. I think they were already into the shady dealings. Once you get to the level of a senator, governor, congressman, you’re already in the pockets of people, you’re already wheeling and dealing, you’re already on the take, you owe some favors, but you’re trying to get your own favors now. So there’s definitely bodies on them. Some of these are too loose, but obviously the bodyguard getting shot 10 times, come on. Being a bodyguard, this guy hears everything, knows all the late night rendezvous, knows everything, knows if he sleeps in.
There’s a good movie you guys should check out, it’s called The Ides of March, with Ryan Gosling and George Clooney, it was a remake of a Frank Capra movie a long time ago. It’s a very political movie, and George Clooney is the perfect candidate, like Kennedy, perfect and beautiful, and Ryan Gosling loves him and thinks he’s going to change the world, and then he’s having an affair with an intern. He doesn’t kill her but he does something that makes a horrible thing happen. He’s the perfect candidate and everybody supporting him thinks he’s different, they’re always different, and then right before he’s elected it’s found out that he’s sleeping with one of the interns and she gets pregnant.
He says, hey take the pill, get rid of the baby, handle the problem, and then she gets rid of the baby and then she kills herself because she loves him. So it’s his fault but he didn’t do it, he wouldn’t be criminally responsible. That’s a really good analogy, similar to this, because stuff’s happening to these people that are right around them, but maybe they didn’t call in the sicario and take him out. Look, I’m not going to touch you, but if you don’t kill yourself things could potentially happen.
Anyways, there you go, that’s the conspiracy of the Clinton Body Count everybody. We appreciate it, and a big shout out to Ashton. Thank you for the support man, it really keeps the show alive.
