Bermuda Triangle UPDATE – EP 137
Bermuda Triangle UPDATE
Scientists say they finally cracked the Bermuda Triangle, and the answer is rogue waves. The University of Southampton built a scale model of the USS Cyclops, dunked it in a wave tank, and declared the case closed. The hosts are not buying it, because a 100 foot wave does not explain five Navy planes flying 30 feet over the water, and Flight 19 got hand-waved away as simultaneous human error.
- Episode 32, originally aired in 2023, was their first take on the Bermuda Triangle, roughly 100 episodes before this update
- Flight 19 was a squadron of five US Navy planes that left Florida on a training mission in December 1945 and never returned, plus a rescue plane that also vanished, for 27 men total
- The USS Cyclops, a 542 foot vessel carrying 309 people and a load of ore, disappeared in 1918 with no SOS and was never found
- In 2010 NOAA stated there is no evidence disappearances happen more often in the Triangle than any other well-traveled stretch of ocean
- The 1995 Draupner wave, recorded by a North Sea oil rig instrument at 60 feet on New Year’s Day, was the first scientifically documented rogue wave
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. 2026, everybody. This is year three. We’re on year three, boys. It’s year three, guys. This is year three. Happy new year.
Happy new year. I hope you’re having a delightful one. I hope it was safe. I hope you had fun. Hope you Ubered. Please. I really hope you did. Waymo or whatever. I didn’t do anything this year. I didn’t do anything either. I was sick. But I hope you guys did something over there.
Like, I think Jorge even texted me and Eric, and he’s doing nothing. Absolutely nothing. I know. And I was like, you remember Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Yeah. You remember those old people? It’s one of my, oh my god. Literally, was that Grandpa Joe? Yeah, that was me on New Year’s Eve.
You know what pisses me off about that is, like, Grandpa Joe is literally decrepit. He’s on Medicare, and then all of a sudden he’s like, oh, I got the golden ticket, Grandpa. He thought, I never thought that I could fly over the moon in ecstasy. I’m like, you son of a, why you blame me this whole time? Working the system.
My son was like, why are they so poor and they’re just laying there? And I was like, that’s a great point, son. That’s a great point. You know why they’re poor? Because they don’t do anything. It’s also, they’re eating like the cabbage water for dinner. It’s so sad. Charlie Bucket. Like, even his name was Bucket. Like, damn, they made him sound like wowzers. Oh, that’s so sad.
Well, anyways, merry new year. And as we do, we want to do some shout outs because it’s a new thing. We’re doing the shout outs always. So, some of our new Patreon members, we got Scott Munes. Love you. Thank you. Jay, that’s all there is. Jay, you know who you are, brother.
And he was like, this is my five dollar guy. He’s messing around. Yeah. So, actually, I saw that on New Year’s Day almost. He’s like, bam, I’m going to give you a little thing. And then he upgraded the next day. He’s like, you know what? I can’t do this. You know what? Jay, thank you for splurging. Jay got the venti plan. Not even Grande.
He probably heard Jorge complaining about how broke we are. Probably heard my thoughts. I’m like, Eric, get rid of it now. And then Brandon Kaine, my man, did the year plan. Let’s go. Well, you see, this is what I’m talking about. This is efficiency. He got the discount. Brandon’s with us. He’s stuck with us now. Yeah, there’s no refunds, brother. There’s no refunds.
He’s like, I did the year plan. I want the monthly shout out. I also just want to shout out some folks in the Discord who are active, and I love them. And I’m not going to shout out everyone just because I’m not going to be shouting out the same people all the time, even though I talk to you on the daily. Well, we got Crazy Steph. Love you. Thank you. We also have Nancy. Hello, Nancy. Thank you.
No, like literally that’s her name. Her name is Hello. It’s actually Hello Nancy. So it’s Hello Nancy. And then who else did I want to shout out in here? You know, this is what I love seeing. Like, Javelin got his shout out, and then he asked if there was anyone else named Javelin who was playing League of Legends at the time, and he was like, oh my god, it was me. So I love you.
Who else in here? I think we already shouted out Todd. There’s a guy named Jorge in there. No, he’s not. No, he’s not. He’s not in there. The guy doesn’t exist. He’s actually not a real guy. AI. Shout out my AI in there. And then there was Hannah Ren. I’m just, I need to start making a list because I feel like I’m just repetitively shouting out. But anyways, we love you guys. Get active in the Discord. I will literally talk to you on the daily.
It’s a new year. I spent Christmas with my family over in California, and I got a rash of stuff from my sister. Oh, I thought you were going to talk about your, who’s a major fan. Oh my god. Yes. We didn’t shout her out. You know, she literally knows all the stories and all the things. And so a big shout out to my sister, Linyl. We’re going to just say Linyl. Yeah, we’ll leave it at that. And we love you. Thank you for listening. Love you very much. Appreciate it.
She’s listened to like every second we’ve ever produced. She’s obsessed. Love it. Yeah. Although I tried to give her a hat and she’s like, nah, I’m okay. I mean, this is just like, and because we, she probably was super pissed because we also shouted out Lance. Yeah, that’s right. And she was like, screw me. Lance is Eric’s brother. We shouted him out. So sister’s got to get the love. There you go, fam.
Hey, shout out to my mom. Shout out. She only listens when she visits me. So next year she’ll hear this. She’s like, shit, I got to catch up, dude. Literally.
All right. So here’s what we’re going to do to kick off 2026. We’ve got a lot going on. A lot of episodes, a lot of content coming at you. We’re going to do so many different topics. If you are a Patreon, you saw some of our schedule. And the first up on the schedule is the Bermuda Triangle.
Now, if you are a listener, you know, we did the Bermuda Triangle. This is an update. This is an update, and we’ve been having quite a few updates lately. We just had recently the Jack the Ripper update. We’ve obviously had the Epstein update. Yep. A lot of updates. I like it. Conspiracies are fluid. Conspiracies are fluid. Yeah, that’s right.
So if you have not listened to the episode 32. Oh wow. This is almost 100 episodes ago. Oh my god. We did the Bermuda Triangle. Is that 2023? 23. Okay. It’s one of our early ones. OG. Yeah. So this is new information that came out and we thought it was only appropriate that we do an episode followup, or we’ll call it a part two, I guess. Or an update. I love the update. I think the update is appropriate.
So we are going to spend about five minutes just doing a little recap. Recap. Yeah, that’s right. So for decades, a stretch of ocean between Florida, Bermuda, and Puerto Rico has loomed large in the public imagination as a realm of lost ships and vanished planes. This area, ominously nicknamed the Bermuda Triangle, earned its eerie reputation through countless tales of vessels disappearing without a trace. From mariners’ folklore to Hollywood films, the Triangle became synonymous with the unknown.
Whispers of compasses that were spinning wildly and ghost ships found adrift only fueled the legend even further. It seemed as if some supernatural curse haunted the waters. Yet after years of speculation, scientists now believe they cracked the case. Okay. The latest research points not to extraterrestrial kidnappers. Oh man. Damn it. Not wrong. Not to time warps, but to very real forces of nature churning within this heavily traveled sea.
In this follow-up exploration, we’ll revisit the triangle’s legendary incidents and wild theories before diving into the new evidence that reveals a more earthly truth, or supposed truth. It’s just like really choppy waters. It is a story of how one of the world’s greatest mysteries is claimed to be finally solved, not by sleuths, internet researchers, or psychics, but by science.
Can I, like, Eric’s loving this science part. I was just thinking, can I be called a sleuth from now on? Like a sleuth? Yeah, I just, I don’t know, something dirty and like, I love your name right now. I’m a sleuth. Here lies Sean Bodner. The sleuth. Sleuth. The sleuth. I actually like that a lot. Sleuth. It’s just the sleuth.
The myth of the Bermuda Triangle took hold in the mid 20th century as reports of unexplained disappearances gripped the public. And we went over this in the last episode, but really quickly, one pivotal incident was the vanishing of Flight 19. Remember that? And it was a squadron of five US Navy planes. I know. That’s what was so messed up about their naval ships.
They took off from Florida on a routine training mission in December of 45, and they never returned. The pilots’ radio transmissions grew increasingly confused about their location before all contact was lost. And there’s five of them too. So it’s not just one. Yeah, that’s right. A rescue plane sent to find them also vanished. Remember, it was like a, it was just like a nonsense, the rescue of the rescue of the rescue. You guys were like, we’re not going. Yeah. 27 men total were missing, and no distress calls, no wreckage, nothing. Also, the ocean’s quite large.
Yeah. The USS Cyclops, the 542 foot vessel carrying 309 people and a full load of ore, disappeared without even an SOS signal. Her wreck was never found and the cause of her loss remains unknown. And this was actually a little bit earlier, but the naval records to this day say her wreck was never found and the cause of her loss remains unknown.
I always thought it’s funny. I know this is random, but like, why are ships always girls? I don’t know. Just like a factoid. You know, I never, I know. First of all, why do you even assign a sex to an inanimate object? I don’t know. I just think it’s interesting. Well, I mean, I don’t know if I want my boat called Phil. You know what? Neither would I. Maybe it’s like it’s not sexy. It’s like, you know, Brad. Yeah. The USS Bradley.
By 1964, writer Vincent Gaddis had even coined the term Bermuda Triangle, describing a patch of western Atlantic Ocean where ships and planes were mysteriously likely to vanish without a trace. The public was enthralled. Over decades, the Devil’s Triangle became the epicenter of a plethora of alleged unsolvable mysteries.
Dude, I just thought of a hilarious theory. I’ll wait on it though. God, it’s so good, dude. It’s actually hysterical. As one article put it, each lost ship or aircraft has a story without an ending, spawning an evergrowing list of conspiracy theories about what really happened. The Bermuda Triangle legend was born, an alluring modern myth set in the age of aviation and radio where, despite this new technology, humanity seemed to encounter an old terror, which was the deep blue sea.
It’s old, man. My legit biggest fear is to be like, you ever like you see the videos, like the reels, and there’s always that, like, dude, I’m like, dude, it terrifies the homies out there like on the oil rigs and it’s like 80 foot waves and I’m like, oh my god, dude, pitch black blind, god, oh it’s terrifying.
So like I had mentioned before, we’re just kind of glazing over the recap. So go back, listen to the original and you’ll get more, but we came up with the following conspiracies about it. Yeah. So just kind of, so we’re back at square one. Yeah. Alien abductions. Yeah. We love that one. This is great. Some suggested extraterrestrials were snatching up ships and planes for unknown experiments. UFO enthusiasts eagerly pointed to the triangle as a possible hunting ground or a portal entry.
Yeah, like it’s the, that’s where the wormhole opens up. Yes, correct. Yeah, it’s cool. I mean, it’s cool. The other one we had was possible like upside down. The other one, and it combined with one of the episodes that we did, was that it’s Atlantis, the lost city of Atlantis, and they were just like torpedoing them down. So some writers imagined that remnants of the Atlantean technology lay on the seafloor still active.
And it was still active pulling, like the ring cameras were still active, taking down, even though we did that episode and it was clear across the other side, like the Mediterranean, like looking somewhere else. Sometimes conspiracies are so great. Well, it doesn’t matter because you’re like a little wrong, contradicting ourselves too. Like, no, it’s legit. It’s legit.
The other one was time warps, a rogue whirlpool or a gateway to another dimension opening in the ocean, and they essentially suck them in. Okay. Going to the future. The other couple, the other two that we had were methane gas eruptions. Oh, yeah. I remember it was a little bit sciency, but it was on the fringe of it. Fringe, which is that there were methane bubbles. According to this idea, pockets of methane gas could spontaneously erupt from the seafloor, creating massive bubbles that froth the ocean and cause ships to lose buoyancy and sink suddenly. Yeah. Not understood. Moving on.
Then another one that was a little bit of conspiracy and science mixed together was magnetic anomalies. Oh yeah. I mean that one is like okay, like I can, yeah, I could get behind that, because also I feel like magnetic poles is an avenue we don’t know enough about. No. And we know that it does exist obviously because there’s a magnetic field that’s protecting us from all being fried by radiation. Yeah. So it’s like it exists but we don’t really get it. Like fully. Yeah.
I mean, and so the theory I wanted to add to this one, which, okay, might be the winner, Somali pirates. Sorry, I had to do it. Possibly. Possible. Possible with today’s climate. That’s why I brought it up, because it was funny. Yeah. With today’s climate. Smiley daycares. Yeah. In the middle of the triangle.
So many of these theories were colorful. It’s far more exciting to blame aliens or sea monsters. Of course. Over the years, the legend only grew. By the 70s, dozens of books and TV specials sensationalized the Bermuda Triangle, often implying that something beyond our understanding must be at play. Must be. Could it be a curse? Maybe. A space-time portal? Yes. Each new idea seemed wilder than the last. And yet, for all the paranormal hype, hard evidence for these theories always was lacking.
Lacking. Well, that’s why it’s a conspiracy. Did you say it was locking? It was lacking. It’s locking. Locking. This is, your evidence is locking. Of course, no alien mother ship has ever been caught. No Atlantean technology on the seabed was found. Still, I mean, but see, here’s the thing. It’s no longer conspiracy if it’s just solved. That’s like the fun.
It’s imagine it’s like, okay, you dream about winning the Powerball, but if you win it, then there’s no more dream. It just is. And nobody’s going to know. I know. But it’s still fun to dream. Yeah. Well, there’ll be signs. There will be signs. But the myth continued. Oh, for sure. For a hell of a time.
And you know what’s up until now, what’s crazy in this whole thing is this is still in the top 10. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Of all time. Oh, it’s a legendary one, right? Like it still persists. Still. Right now when you say Bermuda Triangle, I still get a picture of like a, what’s it called? Whirlpool. Whirlpool of like sucking stuff in. I don’t know. That’s just what comes to mind. Yeah. I all I hear is whatever, that’s.
By 2010 the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration felt compelled to publish a clear statement, and this is their statement. There is no evidence that mysterious disappearances occur with any greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than in any other large well-traveled area of the ocean. In other words, the triangle’s rate of incidence only seems unique because of how famous it is, not because the ocean was actually swallowing up ships abnormally.
I want to see their stats behind this. Like, this seems like they’re making a pretty broad claim here. So what then could explain the very real tragedies that have occurred in the Bermuda Triangle? Researchers point to a confluence of natural factors and human mistakes rather than any single X factor. So like only people only mess up only there, only in the triangle. Yeah. Only rookies go by there. You only drink and sail in the Bermuda Triangle.
So here are some of the anti-conspiracy facts about it. Yeah. So the Eric facts. Yeah, these are Eric’s facts. Yeah, the triangle sits in the middle of a major hurricane corridor. I mean, that’s true. That is true. The majority of Atlantic tropical storms and hurricanes pass through the Bermuda Triangle. Before modern forecasting, these powerful storms could surprise ships with deadly force. Sudden squalls and rogue gale winds certainly could account for many of the lost vessels.
And us being in Florida, we get hurricanes every year. Every year. And, except for last year. Last year we got lucky. Well, that’s because we got smashed the year before. True. The year before, like a leap year. Mother Nature was like, give them a break. Let them rebuild so we can smash insurance claims. Yeah.
The Gulf Stream current. A major ocean current known as the Gulf Stream flows along the margins of the triangle. This current can cause rapid, sometimes violent changes in local weather and sea conditions. Okay. Sure. Sure. Then there’s navigational hazards such as shallow waters. Dotted within the triangle are the islands of the Caribbean and Bahamas, ringed by coral reefs and shoals. These create many areas of shallow water that can be perilous for ships, especially when there was no GPS.
No, but the thing is, wouldn’t you find the wreckage though if there was shallow waters? And also, there was no distress calls. Like, if you hit some sort of coral reef or some shallow water or something and you’re going down, you’re going to rip an SOS out. But also you would find the ship if you hit a coral reef. It’s not like, wouldn’t there be some sort of remnant, some something, maybe not the whole ship but there’d be something, couple bolts or something, like anything.
By the 2010s many scientists and debunkers felt the Bermuda Triangle had been demystified. Australian science communicator Dr. Carl Kruszelnicki became a vocal figure in this regard. Science communicator. What the heck does that mean? He often appeared in media to stress that statistically the number of ships and planes that go missing in the Bermuda Triangle is the same as anywhere in the world on a percentage basis.
I need to see the stats. There’s your stats. Show me the stat. No, but it’s a guy, a science communicator saying that, like, show me the, I want to see the raw data. True. When you factor in how much traffic actually goes through it, in short, the probability is at work. With so many boats and aircraft in the area year round, a certain absolute number of incidents is inevitable.
Yeah. And it’s interesting that we were checking before we started this, and ships and airplanes still go through there still now, which I thought they would like go around it by this time. No, they still go through today. I think also, like, we’re talking about a lot of these occurrences happened when we’re still using AM/FM radio communication signals. Like now we’re using satellite. Yeah, GPS, digital.
Even if, okay, you’re in a hurricane, you can still get a satellite communication out, like for the most part. Yeah. So it’s like, sure, maybe there is a situation where you’re trying to do an SOS signal but your radio is just messed or the winds are ripping so hard your little antenna gets shredded off the boat. True. And you can’t get a signal out. So I mean, that’s totally possible.
So in recent years this quote unquote evidence of it being solved is rogue waves. That was it. That’s what they came up with. I thought it was going to be something far more provable than rogue waves. Yeah, it’s rogue waves. And they’re massive freak waves that arise unpredictably in the open ocean, essentially walls of water that tower far above the average sea height. This is those reels you’ve been watching, dude. Those are terrifying. They’re so scary.
For centuries, they were thought to be marine tall tales, the stuff of sailor’s lore. But in ’95, a North Sea oil rig’s instrument recorded the Draupner wave, and it was a 60 foot, or for those anywhere else in the planet, 20, yeah, 19 meter rogue wave during a storm on New Year’s Day. This was the first scientifically documented rogue wave, and it proved these ocean giants were very real and very deadly. It was once considered just as mythical as the Bermuda Triangle itself, meaning they didn’t think they even existed, but now they measured it.
Yeah. No, but look, that’s great and all, but, like, sort of the rogue wave like take down the five Navy planes that were flying? The rogue wave, right? That’s the idea. Yeah. Are you really? So they were flying 30 feet above the water? That’s the idea. Are you kidding me? They’re really saying that a rogue wave took down planes?
I mean, the idea is that it’s so dangerous and so large that it exerts so much weight upon a vessel. A vessel’s fine. I’m talking about the planes that went down. The rogue wave can’t explain a plane that’s flying in the sky. True. The ship for sure. True. Rogue wave 100%. Dude, a 60 foot wave. Dude, a 60 foot wave might be able to sink a goddamn cruise ship. I get that for sure.
But if I’m in a plane and I’m like 7,000 feet in the air, and that’s low, that’s not cruising altitude, a 60 foot rogue wave is going to suck me into the abyss? Yeah. You know what I’m saying? That’s where the aliens come in. So it’s partly aliens, partly rogue wave.
Oceanographer Dr. Simon Boxall of the University of Southampton suspects that these rogue waves hold the key to some Bermuda Triangle disappearances. Some. After studying the region’s conditions, Dr. Boxall explained that the triangle lies at a crossroads of weather patterns where storms from different directions converge. There are storms to the south and north which come together, he noted.
And that’s very real because, like, when it’s hurricane season around here, we watch it on the news all the time. We are always seeing that coming from the bottom and coming from the top. That’s true. It is true. Started from the bottom, now I’m here. Had to throw that one in there. Such a, there was like a three second, he like thought about, like should I do this? Should I? Okay.
But the idea is that when multiple wave systems coincide, they can briefly combine into a massive giant behemoth wave. In the North Atlantic, if a winter cold front from the north meets a tropical storm from the south, the interference of their waves can create a momentary monster. Monster. The University of Southampton team even simulated this scenario for a British Channel 5 documentary called The Bermuda Triangle Enigma. And they used a wave tank. They recreated the convergence of two storm systems and demonstrated that it could indeed produce a rogue wave that was over 30 meters high.
30 meters high. A towering surge capable, 30, wait, 30 meters? That’s almost 100 feet. It’s huge. Yeah. It’s like a building. Surge capable of engulfing ships. It’s like the perfect storm. Yeah. Absolutely. To connect this phenomenon to the Bermuda Triangle’s history, Boxall and their team conducted a fascinating experiment. They built a scale model of the infamous USS Cyclops, the very same 19,000 ton cargo ship that vanished in 1918, and they put the model to the test against simulated rogue waves.
Okay, I’m sorry. Just give me a second. You get what they’re doing, but, I know, but it’s not the same. Like when you make like, okay, cool, I’m going to take a scale model of like a Jeep Cherokee, right? And then I’m going to like run it into a brick wall. It’s not the same. It’s not. It’s just not. I get what they’re doing and it probably is fairly accurate for sure, but a scale, I just think that the concept of the scale model is funny because it’s not the same physics. The physics is different.
It’s like, have you ever seen the videos of the nuclear bombs going off, and how, you’ve seen that, and it was on Rogan. I don’t know. I saw it a couple days ago, or a reel. Anyways, it looks so fake because they’re scale models, but they’re like getting blown away. They’re like, oh, what happens to the camera? Like the camera just, the camera’s totally fine. Yeah. And unscathed. Meanwhile, this house is getting literally liquefied. Little bit of a rant, but I just thought about that.
So, do you want me to go through this whole story? But essentially, the test was that the ship floundered, was overtaken. You know what I mean? I know I’m talking trash about the scale model. I guarantee that USS Cyclops would not stand a chance against 100 foot, and I guarantee it wouldn’t in this simulation. It was broken into. Of course. You know what I mean? And that’s what I’m saying.
Sorry, you said that and it reminds me, have you seen, it was a real news interview, and it was with this British dude who worked for this tanker company, and the tanker literally split in half. And they asked him, they’re like, so, how could this happen? Blah blah blah. He’s like, well, yeah, it broke in half. They’re like, well, isn’t there precautions in place? He’s like, yeah, don’t break in half. It’s a real thing. Like, those are his answers to the question. Like, well, how do you prevent this from happening? Well, you know, we would stop it from hopefully not breaking in half. I’m like, what the heck? It’s a real thing.
But yeah, I totally agree that a 100 foot wave would probably do that. Yeah, but I do think the scale model thing is, it’s not the same. It’s not the same. It is. We’ll take it up at the end. We’ll take it up. Yeah, because I also have some, oh, oh, skepticism here. Oh, wait. Skepticism against me? No, against this, because, of course, of course you do. Because in all the headlines, it’s like solved. Yeah, that’s a little. And it’s like, you know, it’s a little bold. You know, Sean and I could put a little ship in a bathtub. Get a little, yeah. Look, look at what my daughter’s mermaid toy can do to this scale. Literally, I could go to Sean’s bathtub and put in the Titanic and be like, oh, yeah. Anyways.
Okay. So, Dr. Boxall’s rogue wave theory gained significant traction as a tangible scientific explanation for at least a majority of the triangle’s cases. He pointed out that the scale and shape of certain ships might make them especially susceptible to the rogue waves. And as scientists, they’re always going to try to grasp onto anything that’s tangible or like a reason or logic. That’s your job. Yeah. I’m not knocking on it. I mean, that’s their job. Their job is to, you know, it’s like theoretical physicist.
It’s got to be the worst job ever because you’re just hypothesizing everything. You’re like, you know, maybe this is how it works. You’re just desperately trying to make something real. It is worth noting though that the rogue wave hypothesis doesn’t single-handedly explain every incident. That’s what I’m, the thing with the planes, with the planes, like, it doesn’t. The triangle is a big place with many hazards, but it does provide a credible sort of answer to a lot of the baffling scenarios, the ones that inspired supernatural theories because they seemed to be out of the blue.
Yeah. And it’s also like, how many, when you hear rogue wave it sounds very random and not often. Yes. I mean, like, this is like a vigilante wave maybe. It’s all over the place, there all the time. I mean, in essence though too, these are also freak occurrences. The rogue waves in themselves are freak occurrences because they need the perfect atmospheric pressure and current and wind and blah.
Well, armed with modern meteorology, oceanography, and a solid grasp of statistics, scientists and skeptics have effectively said that they have demystified the Bermuda Triangle. The consensus that has emerged is equal parts reassuring, but also there’s still a sliver of mystery. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I got to cut in. Yeah, I’m sorry. I have to. Like, weren’t we thinking that was a possibility like 80 years ago? Maybe it was a big ass wave. Yeah. Like, they’re coming out. The models prove it.
No, I just think it’s funny, like the way they come out, the way the PR works. It’s like, ooh, we saw some new age stuff. They’re like, big wave. Yeah, that’s it. And we were, that was a theory. That was part of the theory. It’s like, what? And again, that’s why I kind of go, oh, you know, it’s different with Jack the Ripper. Oh, for sure. Because we did Jack the Ripper. Yeah, the update, with Chism on it, and the DNA is close. Yes, it’s not 100% but it’s familial.
Yeah, there was something about, I was reading about DNA, and the mathematics of that DNA was, there would have to be 300,000 planets with doppelgangers of Jack the Ripper and there would be one variant. Okay. Meaning, like, the math is pretty, it’s pretty conclusive. Pretty close. But it’s not 100%. Okay, for goodness sake. But this is not even, yeah, this is just like the waves. It’s the ocean waves. Like, we solved it. It’s called the ocean. Like, that’s what it is.
But scientists nowadays are now saying that all of the stories can be attributed to a rogue wave scenario. Except for the planes. Yeah, exactly. Except for the planes that aren’t affected by rogue waves because they’re not flying 50 feet above the water. Yeah. Like, name me one ship that’s going across the ocean 50 feet above the water. It’s not happening. They’re not doing that. And that was brought up to the same doctor, and it was like, what about the case of Flight 19? And they then said, well, that was human error and bad luck.
All five pilots messed up. All five of them. Yeah. No. All human error. Simultaneous human error. They were all at the same party the night before, like getting loaded. Yeah. So this new information we have today isn’t necessarily a single Eureka moment of discovery. I know, it’s actually more laughable. It is more laughable than the Jack the Ripper one. Oh yeah. Right. Because the Jack the Ripper one you’re like, DNA, okay, this is actually new. Even though it wasn’t nucleic DNA, it was mitochondrial DNA, it’s still DNA, right? Right. There’s still an actual quantifiable, like, there’s something there. Yeah. It’s not like, ooh, freak wave.
So while scientists say this is not necessarily a single Eureka moment, you know, Eureka, we’ve discovered it, but rather a steady accumulation of evidence and understanding, detailed weather records, ocean simulations, statistical analyses, and yes, a dramatic rogue wave experiment. Piece by piece, scientists say they have discovered and solved the Bermuda Triangle. False. Yeah, this seems like some Coca-Cola marketing stuff. Yeah.
So here we are. Here we are again doing an update of this, and the question then is, do these experiments say and prove anything? No, they don’t prove anything. Or are we back to when we did the original episode 23? It’s just a PR stunt. I guarantee those headlines, I guarantee they’re trying to get some sort of federal grant and they had to give them some juice. Oh, we solved the Bermuda Triangle. We need the 10 mil like tonight. If you can send it, to study more, to solve more problems. We need to figure out the planes now. We need to find the one with treasure in it. Trust us. Yeah.
All right. Well, that’s literally it. That was very unsatisfying. After that, like, needless to say, I’m like, didn’t quite scratch the itch that I was looking for. Yeah. So do you think nothing? I think we’re back at square one. We’re back at the things. Yeah. I mean, it’s such a common sense answer. It’s like, yeah, you know, I don’t know what happened. And I woke up and they’re like, yeah, there’s things called like muggers. It’s wild. Like they rob you and they’re like, I don’t know where my wallet is or my phone. They’re like, it’s a perfect storm. Here’s what happens.
Although it could be an explanation for it, a theory which I think we covered at least some of it in the first episode. But I think what they’re saying is, and now they, it’s just like somebody throwing their name in the hat, like, here’s my theory, and it’s like not even nothing new. So I think what they were doing is they proved that it’s possible that those waves can happen. Yeah. They were like, oh okay, now we’ve proved that it’s possible that these types of waves can happen. Therefore that’s what happened, because it’s possible that it could happen.
Yeah. Okay. So they wanted to end it like, oh, it’s possible that you can get these freak massive super waves that can capsize anything. That’s what happened. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. But that doesn’t explain the planes. It doesn’t explain anything. Yeah. It just, I think they just proved that it’s possible that it could happen, right? Pretty much. Yeah.
And being like, there’s still ships going through there now, and it’s not like it happens 100% of the time. So obviously it hasn’t happened in, how, when was the last time we really heard, right? I haven’t heard, ships barely go down nowadays. Yeah. So do you think it was just of the times? Yeah. I think it was the technology, and they’re not really equipped. I mean, very few ships are equipped to handle that. I think probably the only ship that could survive a 100 footer was like a naval aircraft carrier just because it’s so huge. It’s like a city.
But let’s see. Although when you see those reels of the ships battling those big ass waves. Yeah. But those aren’t 100 footers. Let me ask you something. How big do you think they are? Those waves are probably like 25, 30 feet. Oh, geez. Which is a huge wave. 100 foot is like a building. It’s a building size wave. It’s a robot.
So, let me ask you something. So if I were to charter a plane, I think, how many plane charters. I’m heading out of Miami. Okay. And I’m like, Sean, Jorge, we’re going to go to Puerto Rico. No, no, we’re going to go like, he wants to go through the triangle. Yeah. We’re going to go, he’s like, whatever, I don’t know, we’re gonna go to Africa or whatever. And you saw my chart path. It’s like direct, the middle of the. Would you be inclined to be like, hey, I mean, why don’t we take the extra hour? Yes. We go up the eastern seaboard.
No, because, you wouldn’t care. No, because first of all, first off, I’m flying. No, first of all, we’re flying. First red flag. Well, no, I’m flying. No, no, first of all. Oh, you’re physically flying. Okay, I’m not going. No, but I’m saying, when have you ever in your entire life been like, let me see the flight path? Yeah. You’ve never done it. You’re like, cool, where’s the plane, where’s the money, until you’re up in the air and you see the little thing on the screen and you’re like, yeah, I’ve watched some movies about that.
I don’t like that. I don’t know why I don’t like it because they’re like, you’re over the ocean. I’m like, fuck. Oh, you don’t like to, you don’t like, I’m thinking that I’m over. I’m going to go to sleep. Watch a movie. Jack and Coke here. Oh, freaked. I did that one time and I spilled it on myself because I passed out because I got drunk and I dumped the Jack and Coke on my lap. Hilarious. Good times.
All right, right on. Well, there you go. Yeah, I would definitely be like, nope, I’m not coming. You would divert the plane. 100%. Yeah, but he would never check the flight path. I promise. That means though that you still believe in it, the myth, the legend. I do. It still freaks me out. So, even though we’ve done now two episodes on it, if Eric ever invites us on a trip, I’m checking the flight path. That makes sense too. I don’t trust you. You make sense. And if Eric is flying, then forget about it. No, I’m not interested.
Forget that. Like, I’m never going anywhere. Why, am I a bad pilot? I wouldn’t trust myself flying, let alone you. Yeah. I mean, look at that mustache. That’s a crash. That’s a pilot mustache. Don’t you love to hit the bar before you fly? I mean, I’ve been at Denver airport with her. Spent quite a few shekels at the old airport bar. So yeah, we’re definitely not flying.
All right. So then would you consider this solved? No. No. No. No. I would say no. Definitely not. Okay. I consider it, it’s like, all right, potential. There’s a potentiality. I think we’re closer. We’re closer. There you go. I like that, closer. Closer. All right.
All right. Well, there you go, guys. That’s the Bermuda Triangle, the update. As always, we will continue to do more updates as more news and more research is done. Yeah, for sure. Let us know what you guys think. It’s one of the biggest conspiracies out there. And yeah, I don’t know, I would subscribe to, I think something else is going on over there. I think there’s something. It might not be aliens. No, but I feel like there’s got to be, why can no one get radio signals? There’s got to be some sort of magnetic, that’s why I like the magnetic thing. There’s some sort of field that’s messing up the. There’s got to be something else other than rogue wave. Yeah. It’s too easy. It’s like too cookie cutter for me. Yeah.
