And probably some things that might offend you, but don’t listen to this. Can’t wait till you listen. Yeah, don’t. If you’re 18 up, don’t do it. If you’re 18 up. Yeah. All right, everybody, welcome back to The Conspiracy Podcast. It is Sean, and this is Jorge. We got a good one. Continuation from last week, part two to Maryn Monroe, or as Hor say, partos. If you haven’t checked out, uh, the last episode, make sure and do that. Got a little dark at the end, but yeah, this is not going to make sense if you don’t want, if you don’t listen to the first one. Like, you’re be like going on, why did I tune into this podcast at all?

So here we go. So basically Marilyn has come back from this upsetting weekend. Super upsetting. In, uh, I’m upset and I wasn’t even there. Yeah. Sean, Sean’s definitely upet. This is Frank Sinatra’s resort home, where he has weird parties and, you know what I mean, mob bosses and sex parties, drugs. And he a slimy [bleep]. Like, he’s slimy. Yeah, don’t listen to his music. So she flies back. Okay, so Monday, that Monday when she gets back, she places an 8-minute phone call to the Justice Department. Oh, she did? She did, yeah. Nobody knows what was said on that call. Probably like, uh, got raped, like, arrest these men.

So on Thursday, August 2nd, 1962, Marilyn visits the nursery for 4 hours, deciding which trees to plant, which, what she wants for her new garden. That, her psychiatrist Dr. Greenson, sees her twice that day, once at his office, once at a home. That night she’s invited to the Peter Lawford beach house, and Lawford’s friend Dick Levington said she came in with champagne wearing the damnedest little outfit. That sounds like M. That’s a damn ready toy chag. So that was Thursday. I guess. I guess have beach parties on Thursday. I, I haven’t had. Must be cool to be famous and rich. My God. So on Friday, August 3rd, Marilyn tried to call Bobby Kennedy several times, and he was staying at, in San Francisco, at the St.

Francis Hotel. Well, see, now I understand why she was trying to call him. Yeah, like, you have a real reason now. Yeah. Yeah. She can’t reach him because Kennedy and his family are actually staying with family friends nearby, but like 60 miles south, which is Gilroy. Also that week, Marilyn was starting to clean house of her employees. She fired her drama coach, sending her back to New York. She also told Robert Slatzer that she was planning to get rid of her publicists, as well as firing Dr. Greensen. Yeah, she needs this. Dr. Greenson gu is useless. Like, get this guy out of here. She was also planning to let go of Unice, the house housekeeper, whom she started to feel like she was being placed into the home so her psychiatrist could spy on her.

Well, yeah, but Unic was like, she, she was like a tech for. Yeah, it’s all like collusion with these guys. That’s right. Okay, so on Friday, August 3rd, 1962, Lawford and Nukem took Marilyn out to a dinner. Lawford, here he goes again. At Las Scala in Beverly Hills, which is one of her favorite restaurants. A atron there named Billy Trilia, who knew Marilyn, said she appeared drugged and intoxicated. God damn it. She, like, she, she got no good people around. So much so that he was friends with her and she didn’t recognize him. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So allegedly, when they returned home, Nukem and Monroe got into an argument, and she tried to reach Bobby Kennedy again at the St.

Francis Hotel in San Francisco. Dude, this poor girl. She has, she has, she has no stable people around her. I know, and everyone’s using and abusing her. This sucks. She didn’t have like a family. No, she, no, she has no family. Yeah, well, she grew up in foster home, we talked about in episode one, and yeah. But I mean, you don’t have like, she has no, like, like people like, I can trust these people, like, these are my trustworthy friend, they got my back, like, these. Everyone was a piece of [bleep]. Okay, so this is her final day. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. So 6:00 a.m. on August 4th, Marilyn phones her friend Jean Carmen and mentions she had received some disturbing phone calls the night before, in the middle of the night, of people saying things like, leave Bobby alone, and calling her a [bleep].

People like, we don’t know who. Rand, random, hum, prank calls. Stop call, stop. Leave Bobby alone. Bobby doesn’t want to hear from you. Shut up. Yeah, this Bobby. It’s not Bobby’s fault, it’s your fault. I’m not Bobby, you’re Bobby. Stop calling me. Stop calling Bobby. You’re the [bleep], not Bobby. Bobby’s s. Yeah. So when asked to describe Marilyn’s demeanor on the call, Jean said she sounded nervous and exhausted. During that conversation, Marilyn requested that Jean come over, but it was Jean’s birthday, so she told her that she would see him on Sunday. So at 8:00 a.m., so a couple hours later, the housekeeper Eunice arrives for her workday at Marilyn’s home at Helena Drive.

Murray claimed Maroe was already awake, and the handyman also showed up at that time. Okay. Okay. 9:00 a.m., Marilyn drinks a grapefruit juice and informs the housekeeper that her agent Pat Nukem has spent the night with her. Okay. Norman Jeff, the handyman, later recounted events of the day, saying Marilyn came in the kitchen around 9:00 a.m. wrapped in a bath towel. She was pale and looked tired. She looked sick. Yeah. 10:00 a.m., Larry Schiller stops by to discuss Marilyn’s upcoming nude photo shoot from the set of Something’s Got to Give that would appear in Playboy. O, he claimed Marilyn was outside doing gardening. Research on that one, Se.

We’re going to check this out. Yeah, we’re going to do heavy research on that one. I feel bad, I can’t even do it, cuz like, a poor girl, like. So now you don’t feel it. I even look at her sexually anymore. This is like, I have a daughter. Like, I can’t even, like, it’s so, it’s too gross. So he claimed that Marilyn was outside doing gardening when he came up the walkway. After a brief conversation about the nude, uh, photo, photo shoot, Marilyn said she wasn’t sure if she wanted to further her reputation as a sex object. Good, that’s good for her. So she said no.

Smart. I think it’s a smart play. Okay, so 11:00 a.m., Marilyn’s bedside table is delivered and she writes a check for it. Marilyn also ordered some citrus trees. Pat Nukem finally woke up at a [bleep] noon. Whatever that is. No responsibilities. It’s amazing. He like, where the [bleep] am I? Honestly. Honestly, he Wes up at noon. Sometime at noon, what the [bleep]. It’s a girl, by the way. It’s Pat. Oh yeah. Oh, it’s a chick. Thought a dude. It’s like that movie. Yeah, we’re thinking night and, like. So Unice offered her breakfast, during which Nukem and Marilyn woke up feeling cranky, and the pair argued about Maryn not being able to sleep well.

I sle a. Shut up, [bleep]. [bleep], you slept until 12. I’ve been up since six. I slept great. I called Bobby like five times. God, what are they arguing about? So Nukem planned to spend the afternoon with Marilyn lounging by the pool, then join actor Peter Lawford and his wife Patricia Kennedy for dinner. Damn it, Peter. Both Murray and Jenkins would later reveal the actual cause of the argument was Nukem’s close friendship with the Kennedy, not just a lack of sleep. Oh, so, oh, so her agent was tight with the Kennedies. Yes. Oh, and the Kennedies were probably like, yeah, make her do the new photo shoot, discredit her, she’s going to be like [bleep], she’s going to be [bleep], and like, they’ll never believe it, you know.

It’s totally possible. Okay, so at 1:00 that afternoon, a barrage of phone calls came in, as well as a mail delivery of a stuffed animal with no note. I love a barrage. But apparently it upset Marilyn. So she got like a teddy bear. Oh, maybe she like, there’s no note and whatever. Maybe it was like a symbol. They probably, like, some sort of symbol. That 2:00 comes around. Norman Jeff, the handyman, was loading his work tools in his truck when Unice came out of the house, telling him that she had also been fired by Marilyn. That’s right, she said she was going to, she was going to do it.

This [bleep] is useless. Saying Marilyn expected Unice to be gone by the end of the day. Norman offered to help Miss Murray pack up her belongings and wondered if he would be too tired, but Marilyn had gone back. Okay. 3:00, mechanic Henry De, De Anono, D, D, and his wife arrive with Mrs. Murray’s car that he has recently repaired. Murray brings them into the kitchen and tells, tells them that Marilyn is resting in her room. So 4:30, Marilyn psychiatrist Dr. Greens. I thought she fired this guy too. She hadn’t done it yet, she was planning to. Damn it, she’s got to fire these people. She have fir them mon fine.

I know. 4:30 p.m., Marilyn psychiatrist Dr. Greensen conducts a therapy session with Marilyn. It has been reported that during that time, Greenson told Marilyn to drink a Coke and take a drive and go to the beach for a walk. I thought, like, drink a Coke and drink these pills, trust me. 700 p.m., Joe Dagio called. Joe. Joe, stand up guy. It’s like 10 years later, I still care about you, girl. Joe Deo calls and tells Marilyn he ended his engagement with his current fiance. Marilyn and Joe remained good friends after the divorce, and she was pleased with the news, and it was like an upbeat phone call.

He’s like, I told, I told. She was b, I believe. It was like, I feel like for Joe it was, I loved her, but I not like, not like I loved you. Yeah, but like, it, it didn’t work out, but I love you forever. Yeah, you know what I mean. Still, dude, the fact that he went to the, the, he tried to stay where Frank was, like, he tried to get, no, he guy, he knew it was up, he some sketchy shit’s going down, I need to be there. Yeah. You know, actually, on a side note, what I did hear was that after Maryland died, he every month he went to her grave and put flowers forever.

Oh man, that’s [bleep] sweet. That’s sweet as [bleep]. Standup guy. A stand up guy. Hey, good bye, Joe. Deash pray finale, like, this guy’s good guy. Autograph ball, send it in. Burn all your Frank and outro albums. [bleep] God, that guy. Okay, so conflicting reports come in, but at 8:00 state that Marilyn called Dr. Greenson to inform him about the call about Dagio. So she’s telling her psychiatrist about every action, who she’s firing. Yeah, she was calling. Yeah, yeah, she said she was going to fireing this guy. Why are you telling him this information? She’s just telling him, hey, it was a great phone call, and you know, play by play.

I know why he’s rich. I know. I’m charging by the second. Every second I talk to you, it’s money. But apparently that she also asked about more nimbut. What the [bleep] is like some drug barbit? Oh no. Yeah, well see, she’s trying to numb the pain, cuz she’s got all this [bleep] up [bleep] that’s happened to her and she doesn’t want to feel it. So apparently, though, per Greenson, that he wasn’t aware that she was still taking it, cu he stopped prescribing it. Sure he did. So she wanted, he stopped prescribing it. Okay, so between 8 and :00 that night, Peter Lawford calls Marilyn and asks her if she’s still planning on attending his dinner party.

Peter Lawford. She had previously agreed to it, but she said that she would leave early, as she’s supposed to have a busy day the next day. Laford claimed Marilyn sounded weird, fuzzy and sleepy on the call, and said she was tired and wouldn’t be going to the party. It wasn’t unusual for Lawford to hear Marilyn’s voice sound like that, so he figured she was either drunk or she was about to go to sleep and taking her pills. But the weird part is, at the end of the conversation, Marilyn said the following. She said, say goodbye to Pat, say goodbye to the president, and say goodbye to yourself, because you’re a nice guy.

Oh, that’s definitely a lie. But Marilyn’s hairdresser, yeah, Marilyn’s hairdresser later said that Monroe called him two times claiming both Lawford and Kennedy had been under her house and threatened her that day. Oh, I bet they have. Really? Yeah, see, Laford, Laford sounds like he, this guy, this guy’s got no backbone. He does what he’s told. He’s, he’s, he’s, he’s a, he’s a, he’s a worker ant, right? Yeah, working, working for the Kennedies. Okay, so at 9:30, now we’re at 9:30 at night, August 4th, uh, her entertainment lawyer Milton Bruden calls the house around this time to check on Marilyn. It seems he received a call from Peter Lawford, of course she did, being concerned.

So he was concerned by that last statement. Peter Laugher s in the table. He’s, he’s checking all the ducks. He’s like, oh, I’m, I don’t know sh, I’m a little wor, she said a little, she said a little sleepy on the phone, you know, saying. So Ruden is told by Mrs. Murray, the housekeeper, that Marilyn is in bed. 9:30. Wait, okay, real, real quick. This interject, because Peter Laugher just said it wasn’t weird to him that she sounded that way on the phone, cuz he thought she was either drunk or, or about to go to sleep, and then he’s going to call the LA. I’m worried about her.

Sketchy. This is [bleep] conflicting information. It wasn’t weird that she sounded like that, but what she said was weird. Weird. Oh, that’s okay, you know. Oh, say goodbye to everybody, goodbye, say goodbye, good guy. Okay, so, so Arthur Jacobs, which was also another publicist of Marylands, his wife Natalie, she recalled that night that she was out at the Hollywood Bowl. Her and Arthur were notified at 10:30 p.m. that they needed to go to Marilyn’s house. 10:30. Okay. Okay, so she went home. They left the bowl, which is like a, like a restaurant place or whatever, and Arthur went to Maryn’s house. Of which, so, so she went home and he went there.

Okay. Okay. This is not in any police report. Weird. M, yeah, that’s weird. Okay, so now this is the gap that nobody knows what happened. Oh. Between 10:30, 10:30 and 3:00 a.m. That’s a pretty wide gap. That’s almost 5 hours. So 3:00 a.m., and this is what Unice Murray says, the housekeeper. Yeah, who I don’t trust. I don’t trust. Unice is a piece of [bleep]. I don’t trust, trust her. Yeah, I actually agree. Her name is Unice. I don’t, I don’t agree at all. That’s all you need to know. She was like going to be fired. She was supposed to be gone that day. She was supposed to be gone that day.

Why you still there? There, 3: a.m. is the next day. Actually it is the next day. That a great point, that you were fired, bit, get off the prem. She like, h, can just stay the week. Even, even the handyman’s like, I’ll help you with your [bleep]. Like, get [bleep] out. I’mma stay. I’m okay, she change your mind. So here, here’s the report. 3:00 a.m., around this time Unice Murray woke up with an uneasy feeling. Yeah, cuz she was fired and she shouldn’t be there. She’s st. That’s the statement, an uneasy feeling. When do you wake up at 3:00 a.m. go, I, I feel uneasy?

Yeah, have an uneasy feeling, let me go check on her. I feel uneasy when I had to poop at 3:00 a.m., so I go, so I go handle it. So she saw a sliver of light underneath Marilyn’s bedroom door, but she knocked. When she knocked, there was no answer. Upon trying to open the door, she discovered it was locked. She then called Dr. Greensen, who arrived. Your first call? Come on. Who arrived shortly thereafter and broke into Marilyn’s room through the window, and she found Marilyn nude in her bed, dead. This is so sketch. This is so [bleep] up. This is, or what? 50 minutes later.

50, 50 minutes, and you’re in Brenwood. 50 minutes later, Dr. Heyman Engelberg, which is Maryland’s physician, arrives at the home and officially declares Marilyn dead. They don’t call, like, there’s no like [bleep] ambulance, like. Yeah, they call the police. Hear me out. 4:25 a.m., so that’s an hour and 15 minutes later, minutes, LAPD arrives. Jesus, where the [bleep] were they? And, uh, the phone records are Dr. Engleberg stating, Marilyn Monroe has died, she’s committed suicide, I’m Dr. Heyman Engelberg, Maryn’s physician, I’m at her residence, she’s committed suicide. So he said he committed suicide twice, Engleberg. So the coroner’s official cause of death was probable suicide, with the autopsy stating acute barbituate poisoning.

Yeah, well yeah, for sure. I mean, Maryn had ingested an inordinate amount of barbituates, possibly in the range of 50 pills. Damn, that’s a lot of. Wow. Even with her high tolerance of Nental, that was enough to kill the average person many times. Yeah. Maryland’s funeral was then held August 8th, and she died. That sucks. Yeah. That’s crazy, dude. Man, I got a lot to say about this. So that’s the, that’s the whole story of Maryland in Rome, right? And so before we jump into conspirac, we’re going to go, we’re just going to go, we’re going to cover a couple that are, that I just marked as strange things.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so when LAPD arrived at [bleep] [bleep] 17 hours later, Jesus Christ, Sergeant Jack Clemens noted that there was no glass found in her room. Oh, he said he broke in through the window. Yeah, how did he break in? Oh yeah, no, no, but no, no, there was no glass, like, like there was no cup. Oh, so you, no, you can’t take 50 pills, pills dry. You can’t take 50 pills dry, argument. No way, 50 pills, h, no cup. No, that’s a great, that’s a great point. Holy [bleep], I didn’t. There’s no way you’re downing 50 pills Dr. No. And you’re not going to go, you’re not going to go to the sink and like drink out of the sink.

You’re going to sit in your bed, you’re like, is, is this done? I’m going to be comfortable. You’re not. No, that’s a great point. That’s a excellent point, actually. Yeah, I mean, you would vomit. Oh dude, 100%. Yeah, you’ vomit up three, dude, your, no, maybe five. No, your body would refute it. Your body would literally be, get the out, get, we’re, we got to get out of here. Yeah, the other part of this that is strange is that the room was locked. I mean, maybe that privacy, I don’t know. Yeah, I don’t know, lock is not as bad. It’s more, there’s nothing to drink.

Like, I lock my door. So the deputy coroner Thomas Nagu conducted Monroe’s autopsy the same day. On a, they did autopsy jist. I mean, I know, we did the, oh my God, Mary Joe Kekney, noopsy, she died, the [bleep], ask questions, it’s done. So the, go through the trents, a new house, inck this wired transfer. I know, it’s like weird. Yeah, no, saying it was, I was ow that money. So the LA coroner’s office was assisted in the inquest by psychiatrist Norman Feraru, why was there a psychiatrist, Robert Litman and Norman T, Ti, Tnik, Tnik, Tnik, Tnik. Yeah, and he was from the LA Suicide Prevention Center, and he interviewed Monroe doctors, psychiatrists, all about the mental state, etc.

But based on the evidence of the advanced state of rigor mortise at the time of her body was discovered, it was estimated by them that she died between 8:30 and 10:30. What the? She was told at 10:30. So let’s go back to it, right? Dude, holy [bleep]. You go back on the timeline here. So back on the timeline, remember when the, the, the, the publes was called? Yeah, at 1030, right? Yeah. We don’t know what was happening. That’s the problem, is there’s this gap. 9:30 to 3:00 a.m., there’s a gap. But they’re like, she died at 8:30. D, there’s some between 8:30 and 10, there some [bleep], whatever.

There’s some sketchy [bleep] of f. Plus they could be wrong, I mean they could be off. They, I, it’s pretty, it’s accurate within an hour. It’s pretty accurate, like within, within like an hour, like. So the toxicology report concluded that the cause of death was acute barbituate poisoning. Mhm. Um, the police found empty bottles of these were bed. Oh yeah, for sure. There are no signs of external wounds or bruises or anything like that. Oh yeah, it’s, it’s really, you know, it’s really easy to give someone else. You can the crush up pills, so person already pass the [bleep] out, like, on barbituates, punch him in the face and she like.

No, but there’s no bruises, no nothing. Yeah, I’m just saying, could have, like, it’s easy. It’s easy enough to have someone already [bleep] up on drugs and you’re pulling some drugs in your mth, more drugs in your mouth, like, pour them drugs. I mean, God, she, she got, she got raped by mob boss, like, my God. Yeah, well, so bad. I know, it’s so bad. I know, it really bad. Even saying it makes bad, feel terrible. So the findings of the inquest were published on August 17th, and, uh, they said it was a probable suicide. The possibility of an accidental overdose was ruled out because the doses is found in her body were several times over the leal limit.

I don’t accidentally take 50 pills. Whoopsies. Yeah, and had been taken in one gulp or a few gulps or over a minute. So wait, so they, they ruled out accidental, yes, overdose, right? So it, it could be a suicide, inal suicide, or intentional suicide, totally be. Well, there’s not unintentional suicide. Ac, well, that’ be, that’ be accidental. They ru that [bleep] out. But I mean, the idea here is that they also went through it and, you know, she’s, she is a case. She’s years of depression, yeah, drugs, missing father, uh, rape, you know what I mean. There’s a lot of things that you can just stack up and justify of why she killed herself.

Compared to, compared to, like, living, living my best life, just killing it, just s my company. That’s right. But what’s really weird is the, the guy who did the autopsy, in 1983 he published a memoir. Of course. Of course he did. He published a memoir in which he discussed Monro’s case in the allegations of discrepancies that were in the autopsy. For example, they didn’t really find the pills that were in her stomach. Didn’t they dissolve? The toxicology report showed that they were in her blood, blood stream, but there was nothing in her stomach. Oh, so they saying she could have been injected? No food, nothing?

Oh, there was nothing at all, zero. Weird. Emptied out? Oh, that’s weird. Weird. It’s weird. Think maybe it’s a little, little inject a mundo hit her. They probably would have found. I don’t know, hit her in the toes. They don’t check that. I, there’s no reason to check that [bleep]. Or they like hit her with the liquid that could. There’s many theories, like, that she was giving herself enemas and, like, like weight loss. Oh, and they spike the enema and then. Or no, but that, that the enema cleared out her system and so that’s why it was empty. No, but the enema doesn’t clear out your stomach.

The ena clears out your, your bow system. It’s not about your stomach, doesn’t like go all the way into your stomach. Give me, get that cheeseburger out there. I mean, so he, he said that one of the reasons why that maybe her stomach was empty was that she eat, she was, and she had, she had been, no, and she had been an addict, so, so her body was accustomed to just absorbing it. So multiple hours would go by and you would take the pills and then it. I mean, it’s also the thing that, like, I get about, I don’t know how, like, advanced pills were back there, is you take an Advil, that [bleep] like disintegrates like instantly.

And it was also 50, that’s a lot. Of, even if it was 40, even if they were wrong, if they were wrong about it, they like, lot. Yeah. But in 83, in his memoirs, he said he still concludes that she probably committed suicide. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, okay, yeah, I can see that as a, it’s, I can see that totally as a possibility, for sure, totally. Okay, and then the last thing before we jump into conspiracy theories is that, yes, so there are, there have been interviews that were done later that said that she didn’t die there. What? Yeah. Yeah, what do you mean? Where did she die?

I know. So there was an interview done with a former ambulance driver named Ken Hunter, and he says he went into the house, and he was working for some an ambulance, so it’s like a privatized ambulances, ambulances are privatized still to the day, yeah, so it’s called Chaer Ambulance, right? And so Ken Hunter says he was called and he took the ambulance there, and he went into the house and Marilyn was on her side, and they brought her into the ambulance and she was still alive. What time did he say, what time this was? He didn’t say what time. Yeah, but that’s just one guy, like, he’s try my 15 minutes, one guy.

In six. What, six? Really? Who was the other five at the ambulance company? Oh wow, really? That’s [bleep] up. It says he went into the house and she was on her side, and then they put her in the ambulance and she was, you p, I got to pick her up. Yeah. So they said she was comos, but she was alive. She was alive, right. They went to the hospital, but now this is the weird part. They went to the hospital, they went to the, this is weird, Ken Hunter says they went to Santa Monica emergency. Okay. Okay, so then the owner of Schaer Ambulance was interviewed later, and they said that Marilyn was alive in the ambulance and died on the way to St.

John’s Hospital. Okay, but there saying she was dead on contact. What the [bleep] this? They didn’t say that. Then the ambulance turned around. Her physician, her physician. But the ambulance comp, we’re talking about the ambulance company right now. So then the ambulance turned around and dropped her back off, went back to the house. What? Dropped her back off? No way. No [bleep] way. What the [bleep]? We don’t want no part of this, like, we can charge, we can charge double fe if we just take her back home. No d way. And the fact that there’s multiple humans there, mti people, cu there’s driver, there’s owner, there’s the, and [bleep] collaborate on the same story.

Here’s what they said. They didn’t collaborate on the same story. They collaborated that their ambulance went to Marilyn’s house and then they brought her to a hosital, hospital. But the fact that her, the fact that they brought her back. No, that was just the owner. Ah, that was the Schaer Ambulance. No, but the fact that in the story, her, her, her physician called the police, say she’s dead, she’s dead, she commit, she committed suicide twice. She committed suicide, she’s a suicidal suicider, like, it just kept saying it, like, what the? After the psych, we got suici here, she committed suicide, suici, we need you to come and check out the suicider here, like, what the?

And then, like, and then make sure, make sure you document it as a suicide though. And it was after Unice was, oh, I think, call the psychiatrist to come check out the lock doors. [bleep] Unice. So that’s, that’s the story of Marilyn Monroe. Jesus Christ. Damn. Oh, poor Maryland. God damn it, poor Maryn. I know. Actually, I feel, so there’s a bunch of [bleep] that I didn’t know, let me tell you. So much. Yeah. So now you know the, the story. Yeah. Yeah, I’m hope, I’m hoping that you guys listening, like, also, you know, learn some new [bleep] here. Like, d, I learned a lot of new [bleep].

Yeah. So there’s, there’s, there’s quite a few conspiracies. I mean, I bet you could already couple right now. I just created something. So the main ones are the, the first and foremost is that the Kennedies, this, like, like, and there’s, you know, I mean, I have tons of this stuff but I don’t even need to, we’re already in, I don’t need to go. You know, it’s kind of, uh, somebody had said, I was reading about how not a lot of people know where Bobby was that night, and apparently there’s some reports that Bobby was there that night. Oh. Bobby told his wife, I’m going tod, I’m going to McDonald’s, babe, I’ll be right back.

Gonzo. Really. And it’s such a bummer to me because I love Bob, I like Bobby. I thought Bobby, I thought Bobby was a good guy. He was a good guy. I know. I thought JFK was a good guy, but he had multiple [bleep]. Also, we just spend hours talking about the negative stuff. That’s true, you know what I mean. I mean, the negative stuff, pretty negative though, it’s not like, it’s not like it’s like you can like spin it in a good light. Everybody already knew about the positives, we, yeah, we should some on the negative today. It’s like, yeah, you know, they were cool, and then, you know, they were both [bleep] the same chick and they’re both married.

So there’s a couple, there’s a, I mean, the main conspiracies are that, that, uh, she was just getting too loud. Yeah, Cy’s couldn’t have it, just getting too loud. No, Papa Joe, Papa Joe’s like, you got to shut it down. She’s, I’m do a press conference, I’m do, I have a lot to say. I have a lot to say. Lot to say about them candies. Yeah, there’s a lot of them. There’s a 200 of them, watch their back. Uh, and then the other one is, um, that night in Sinatra’s place, yeah, with the mob boss, the mob might want to silence her. Hey, she, there were photos of her being raped.

Did they, are those photos ever come out? Like, no, they probably, the photographer, the photographer said they were, they told him to burn them. Burn them. Yeah, Frank sonat are probably, they’re probably in his grave Yeah, I don’t know. I mean, I guess the night of, I guess the question is, a, did she kill herself? Do you know what I mean? And then, and then going from there. See, this is tough, cuz like, I can see, I can see it both ways. I can see her experiencing so much trauma, yeah, doing that. Yeah, because like, obviously. And she gets to the point where she’s, I have no one I can trust, and I’m just, it’s me against the world.

And I, I can see that. She doesn’t care about the money anymore, she doesn’t care, she probably sick. Plus when you’re on these [bleep] drugs and you’re just out of your mind, and like, you know, maybe you just get to a point where you’re just so depressed, so like, just sick in the head, and you’re just [bleep]. I can see her being sick of the fame too. It’s like, this, the fame got me to this point, and a point that I don’t want to be at. Done. She has failed marriages, she doesn’t have a family. No, she doesn’t have really good friends. But depressing. What I, yeah, like, what the hell does she have going on?

I mean, obviously, okay, she’s got a new photo shoot that the dude put pressure in her for. So true. Yeah, she’s famous, she’s got money, but, but she did plan all these things. True, but she was probably under the influence of these barbituates. Yeah. Yeah, that’s good point. See, what I actually think, like, there’s too many, like, red flags for, for me to believe that, like, especially once you got into the ambulance thing, I was like, okay, there’s too many ref, like, I, I about the night of, I believe that there’s, I don’t know who. I think it could easily be the candidates, it could easily be the mob people.

Yeah, but I think that, I’m, I’m leaning more towards the Kennedies, just because, the, I feel like Peter was like planted to keep an eye on her. Oh yeah. [bleep] started getting mad loud. They all knew that she was in cahoots with this guy who was just like [bleep] her full of drugs. When they cut her off, she got louder and louder, and the fact that she says, I have a lot of good stuff to say about the Kennedies. I feel, and Bobby were, hey Peter, you scrub, you’re doing what we tell you to do. Scoot on over there, you were just with her earlier that day, job pet.

He was just with her earlier that night and he dropped her off. Dude, I’m telling you, he could have easily went upstairs. He was like, okay sweetheart, take your pills. She takes them, she’s [bleep] out of it, and then he’s like, like. Yeah, but he’s not going to do that, like, on his own. No, but he’s not going to do that on his own, like, somebody. No, they crush the pills up. You, if you crush 50 pills up, it’s just powder, and you put it in water or something, drink up, like, and then she’s done. Oh yeah, because obviously he’s not going to make her, he’s not going to make her eat 50 pills.

He’s going to crush them up into powder, which makes it like this big, and then you put them into a liquid, it dissolves, and then bam. I mean, so honestly, I feel like, I feel like she just got to the, she was at that breaking point, you know. Yeah, she was really at the point where she had, she didn’t care about her career at that point anymore, like, she had at the point of no return. No one was talking to her, she was being exiled by all the people she thought were her friends and thought what she was close with, and she was like, you know what, I’m gonna spill the beans, I’m gna spill the tea, I’m gon give the tea on the candies, I’m going to give the te on everybody.

And they, they couldn’t have it. Yeah, well, real quick, what, so what do you think happened that night? I, I, I think, I think, I think Peter Laugher, the Kennedies, he knew something, pet. He was part of something. I think Peter, maybe even Bobby showed up. Dude, I think, I think, I don’t know about that one, Bobby. I, I believe Bobby could have been there, but commanded Peter to do it, cuz like, I don’t think, I don’t think the k, i, we show, we show historically, pet was always the lacky. Peter is the dude. What’s crazy is, Peter is an actor, he was a famous, he was a famous in his own right, dude.

But he’s the common denominator. Peter, Peter is the common denominator in this entire scenario. True. He’s the commor between the Kennedies and her, and all at all points he is there. He’s [bleep] there. Beach house, the beach, he’s always there. He was in Sinatra’s house. Dude, he’s always there. That’s true. So if anybody knew anything, it’s him. Dude, he knew. And so that’s why I feel like, I feel like Bobby or, or JFK called him, dude, shut her the [bleep] up. I feel like Peter probably like helped her out, whatever, shook her pills, she was already stated, probably under command of the Kennedies, crushed up all the pills, put them in some liquid, made her drink it, [bleep], boom, easy peasy.

Just easier to have her not there. Well, it’s also, it’s also super hyperb believable that she, cuz she was already on pills all the time. Yeah. Mhm. Super believable that commit suici. It’s easy, it’s, it’s a real clean cut. It’s real clean. But they [bleep] up by not leaving any cup. Like, how you’re not going to take 50 pills dry? So you’ll, it’s impossible. Was, I have a hard time tak my vitamin pack, it’s like 12 pill. So this might sound morbid, but if I were to take 10 pills, how do I get to the 30 others that were taking? That’s what I’m saying. Does that make sense?

No, like, you’re, you take, it’s not instant, it’s not an instant. I can take 50 pills right now if I wanted to, like, take some vitamins, let’s say, like. No water? No, hell no. Okay, no dry. If you’re saying dry, if you’re saying dry, it’s impossible. It’s impossible. It’s impossible. It’s like, it’s like eating six saltine crackers. No, it’s like, it’s like eating [bleep] three sal cra. You done that? Have you ever done that? It’s like eating cinnamon. Try cinnamon. You’re likeon, we do that later. Oh, it’s, it’s a, it’s a college thing, like, it’s like eating flour. How many saltines can you eat? Oh, no water, without gagging?

Yes. Honestly, it dries you up, so like on three you’re like. Really? Yeah, it’s a horrible. Yeah, I’ll never do that. Yeah. All right, so you’re, you’re on board with, I, you think she was, like, there was some sinister stuff? But I want to, I want to say, I can see how with her life situation that would be a possibility, but I personally believe that it’s on the more nefarious side. Okay. That’s my personal belief. Yeah. I’m not saying it’s, it’s [bleep] unbelievable, it’s ridiculous, I can see it. But I personally believe there was the fairy sex. Okay. I mean, he just took all the words out of my mouth, who was like that.

I’m on the same side as Sean. Yeah, I’m the wind, the wind beneath your wings. And I don’t believe that Bobby was there. I don’t know, I just, I just don’t buy that too much. I don’t think Bobby was a ag, he’s smart. Yeah, why would he be there? He’s going to send Peter, he’s got Peter. Peter’s the fall guy. Peter’s the fall guy. What threw me off was the ambulance thing, like, that’s crazy. That threw me off. But that’s only one guy, like, the, the owner of the ambulance saying that they brought her back. Okay, there’s also the concept of covering something up. Yeah, and like, it’s, it’s in that moment and you’re, I don’t know what to do, go back, go back, say you don’t know anybody else, fine.

But yeah, you got Mary in your ambulance, what the [bleep] what do I do? True. But I still don’t believe him. No, that threw me, that did threw me off, throw me off, but I don’t believe that. I think it was just, you know, the Kennedy’s trying to Kennedy’s. That’s the one. And the fact that Unice was still there, she said be gone by the end of the day. Well, she was definitely in on it. She, you know what’s crazy though, is that if that were true, it does give you a whole new picture on the Kennedies as a whole, doesn’t it? Oh dude, I used to think the Ken were America sweetheart.

The Kennedies, the worst. They’re actually the worst. I know. But they have such good qualities too. What are the good qualities? What about leading our nation and becoming a better nation? Come on. I know, but I mean, like, becom better, going to the moon, and, and giving, giving back the responsibility to, to America, you know what mean. Er, imagine you got sold by a politician, say, Eric, just take me, we’re already going to the moon. It’s not like JFK didn’t [bleep] create a rocket to go to the moon. He did, he did, he was the, he was the. Okay, here’s what happened of it. No, he was in the mitzvah.

He had a, he had a good speech writer and he had a transan accent, that’s all it was. It’s not what you can do for your trans. He just had a good voice. Boston. I know, it’s Boston. I know, trans is, is the. I hear, I guess. I was just saying that it kind of just is a bummer. It’s a super bummer, you know what I mean. You take it and you go, ah, this is the real. I literally had a conversation with Eric the other day, and I was, man, like, I would totally be a Democrat back in, in JFK days, cuz he was like the man, like, good change, like, really, like the way.

I know, he had two mistresses. How can you trust this guy? Must, he must had to have more. He had to have more, like Poor Jackie. Like, how can you, how can, how are these people our heroes? How are these? And we wonder why the divorce. These are our heroes. Eric’s hero. I don’t know, but Daddy Jo said to sleep with everybody. I know, Daddy Joe, I’ve been saying this is a piece of [bleep]. What’s crazy is that we also just did chotic, and, and I was like, it’s another, it’s not even the same Kennedy. The whole family’s a conspiracy. It’s crazy. They’re all aliens.

Yes. What is happening with, we got 15 episodes just the whole family. Almost our entire podcast, honestly. I’m pretty sure the Kenny’s built the pyramids. All right, well, Eric, what do you believe? You hav. I hate to say it, like, she commit suicide? No. No, I hate to say it, but I kind of am with you. Oh my God, this is the first. Honestly, like, I’ve done all the things and I’m kind of with you guys. I think this is [bleep] up. Yeah, it’s too [bleep] up. I think, I think maybe there, there is a possibility in my mind that they, they killed her. Not like literally killed her, but they, they, they, they push, push to it.

They were brothers banging her, that’s [bleep]. And then they took her to this Frank Catra [bleep], drugged her, raped her, photos, like, God took the photos. And even if they didn’t do it exactly, they allowed it. Well, they were like, even if they didn’t per, like, do it intent, like, they were, they were a complicit. They were complic. Even if they didn’t pull the trigger or stuff it down, they caused her to die. Actually they caus her to die. Hey, you. Yes, they were a causing, saying that they, saying orated, they shove the pills down her mouth that night, they still, they still are responsible.

They [bleep] her up so bad. So, so you just think she locked herself in a room and what? [bleep], he’s saying, he’s saying both. He’s saying, saying both’s saying, odds are, either way you look at it, the Ken are responsible. Yeah, we already said that, but, but I’m just clarifying, so you don’t, so you think you, so you’re on board with us? Like you said. Okay. It’s the first, this is probably the only time that’s ever happened. I know, this is, this is a moment in history. Er is. I actually am more inclined to believe that she didn’t kill herself too. Dude, there’s too much weird kill.

Yeah, I started, I just started off with that, saying if she did kill herself, I still believe that they are, no, for sure, they are liable for, for what happened to her, because right, it is a pos, it is a possibility, essentially. They 100%. So then, and then they dumped her off like she was trash. Stop calling, leave us alone, we’re, we’re married, like, like, okay guys. Meanwhile Bobby’s got like nine children, like, [bleep]. But then, okay, so then, moving on to the actual night of her death, I like her so much that I think that she wanted to live. Dude, I, I think she, I think she wanted to live.

I think, I think she just didn’t like her situation. I don’t think she wanted to die, I just think she was, she didn’t know what else to do, and she had no one else to turn to, so she was, I’ll just get high and like pass out. Yeah. I didn’t think she was, I want to die. Yeah, maybe if she was, and, and this is a scenario I could see. She got high, I, that’s what I’m saying, I think she got high, like, for sure she got high. And then nefarious people maybe came in where she’s high, chance she’s toast. They’re probably like, Maryland, Maryland, you, you, Maryland, okay, let’s push it to the next level, you know what I mean.

Wait, she passed out, how do they make her drink 50 pills? This liquid, crush it up, put in a liquid, pour it in her mouth. But she’s passed out. You still breathe. Oh, I know it doesn’t make sense, because how does she get 50 pills in her in the first place? Dude, by crushing them, how many times? I, this mystery go away. You’re not going to make her drink, have you ever, okay, have you ever taken care of it, have you ever, 50 pills if you’re passed out, even if it’s 40? All right, have you ever taken care of a really, really drunk person? Yes.

And have you ever made them drink water? But pass out is different. It’s not. Yes it is. Yes it is. If you’re passed out, you’re passed out, like, you’re, you’re out, you’re not drunk anymore, you’re out. A big lump of taking care of drunken people, like, literally to the point of like unconsciousness, pick them up, may them drink water, it’s like dribbling down their mouth, but they still [bleep] drink it, and they, they [bleep] lo back down, they don’t remember [bleep], they’re like, what happened last night, and I’m like, remember all over my bed. Point where you could make them drink water for sure. You pick them up, it’s like, it’s going to dribble down, but their body is, oh shit’s in my mouth, sw, drink, drink this, drink this, you need to drink this, like.

But it’s totally possible. Possible. But overall, from what I’ve heard on her interviews and all that stuff, I feel like she wanted to live. I, I totally agree. I ful. I mean, so, and I don’t mean to be maybe ignorant on suicide, you know what I mean, where like some people, maybe some people think, or like, on the, on the outside, the appy is that, like, they’re. I don’t want to be like that guy where I’m like, oh I know, you know, because I don’t know. But we l an opinion though, like, your opinion is. But Marilyn seemed like she wanted to live more. I have, I agree.

So it’s confusing to me that she would kill herself, kill herself. Yeah. Yeah, I. So then you lean more towards, that’s right, on our side. Rightous, right. We would love hear what you think. You think we’re idiots, if you have any additional information to provide, if you have other stuff that we should have added, we’ll do an addendum, we’ll add it into the podcast for. Oh yeah, we hear all the people, we, we done it before, we added it in on the, on the Freemasons, we had Masons reach out, we added that [bleep] in there cuz they were, they, they have the inside scoop, we don’t.

That’s right. So what’s the email? Uh, infothe conspiracy podcast.com. And just so you know, coming weeks, we will have all of our transcripts, all of our episodes, all of that on the conspiracy podcast.com. That’s right. You’ll be able to see, you’ll be able to go there, we, we’ll put some pictures of our faces so you know what we look like. Well, maybe we might, we might be blurred out. But we love you, Marilyn. No, seriously, Marilyn, I iute to her. I feel for her. That was a, yeah, like, you such a star, burn so bright, and all these [bleep] just trying to do weird [bleep].

It’s not fair. Learned a lot about Norma, Norma Genene, yeah, right, during these two episodes. Seriously. And if my, if my daughter ever gets famous, I’m quitting my job and I’m going to, dude, I’m living in the house, I’m like, I’m going to be screening all the calls. I’m, I’m sorry. Never going to happen. Not g to happen. I’m refus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Mar. All right, well, she was killed. Yeah, think, I think, I think we all agree. I think we all agree that no suicide. Yeah. All right, thanks everybody, see you guys next week. Good chatting. We’ll, uh, we’ll catch you next week.

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