Boeing Part One: Disasters and Whistleblowers – Episode #73
Boeing Part One: Disasters and Whistleblowers
Episode 73 opens The Conspiracy Podcast’s two part look at Boeing with a history of the company and the two crashes that put the 737 MAX under global scrutiny. Lion Air Flight 610 went down shortly after departing Jakarta in October 2018, and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 crashed shortly after takeoff from Addis Ababa in March 2019, together killing 346 people.
Hosts Jorge, Sean, and Eric walk through how investigators traced both crashes to MCAS, a flight control system that repeatedly pushed the aircraft’s nose down after reading faulty sensor data, and how the 737 MAX fleet was grounded worldwide as a result. They also cover the Department of Justice fraud case against Boeing, the compensation fund set up for victims’ families, and the 2024 Alaska Airlines door plug incident.
The episode closes by introducing Boeing quality engineer John Barnett, whose 2024 death the hosts treat as an open question, setting up part two’s deeper look at Boeing whistleblowers.
- Lion Air Flight 610, a Boeing 737 MAX, crashed shortly after departing Jakarta on October 29, 2018, killing all 189 people aboard.
- Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, a Boeing 737 MAX 8, crashed shortly after takeoff from Addis Ababa on March 10, 2019, killing all 157 people aboard.
- Investigators found that both crashes involved MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System), a flight control feature meant to prevent stalls that instead repeatedly forced the aircraft’s nose down after receiving faulty sensor data.
- Boeing built the 737 MAX on the original 737 airframe, which dates to the 1970s; the hosts say this let the plane move through a shorter FAA certification process, and investigators later called for a redesign of MCAS and stronger pilot training.
- After the second crash, the 737 MAX fleet was grounded worldwide; the U.S. Department of Justice later charged Boeing with fraud conspiracy, and Boeing admitted to deceiving the FAA and agreed to pay 2.5 billion dollars in fines and compensation, including a family fund.
- In April 2024, a door panel blew out of an Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 shortly after takeoff; the crew descended and landed safely with no deaths, an incident the hosts link back to their ongoing concerns about the MAX line.
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Welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. What up, what’s up everybody. We’re here. Video you ask, weird we provided for you, so strange. Don’t say Daddy didn’t do nothing for you. Uh, hope everybody’s doing good. Uh, your Tuesday’s going well? Yeah. Or if it’s going shitty, it’s about to get better. Uh, we have a pretty awesome two-parter for you guys. Uh, it is on the Boeing whistleblower and the Boeing Evolution, I guess the downfall, the the conspiracy that is Boeing. I mean, it’s weird cuz it’s not quite a downfall, because it’s like the biggest company on the planet, they’re still crushing it, so they’re not really down.
But um, is the start of the downfall, the down trend of, so uh, yeah, take us away. Okay, so uh, if you haven’t heard, um, recently a couple people who were considered Boe whistleblowers, uh, died under strange circumstances, or killed, we could just say they were killed. Yeah. I mean, I’m not saying, if you haven’t heard, like, you’ve heard? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. I me is, is whether you’re paying attention. Yeah, that’s right. So, but what I, uh, after doing some research, um, this story actually goes back even further. Oh, so it’s not just, not just right now the dude saying something’s wrong and then dying.
Yeah, it uh, it kind of goes back. So, as we do on this podcast, uh, we would like to kind of give you a little bit of the history. Uh, and so here, there’s a lot of history on this one, that’s why, uh, we’re going to make it into a two-parter. Yeah, it’s probably, probably going to be two Parts. Um, so here we go. You know, why don’t we dive in. Uh, so I thought meant like, cut it, cut, cut. We should, first thing, first thing though, is I’m going to have a sip of my coffee. Delicious. It’s kind of early. Amber coffee. [Laughter] Okay, so the first powered flight of a heavier than air aircraft occurred on December 17th, 1903, by the Right, December 7th?
Yeah, close, about 40 years off too though. Yeah, true. By the Right Brothers, you guys have heard of this, this is basic American history. They were in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. Uh, yeah, North Carolina, it’s called Kittyhawk, North Carolina. Their aircraft, the Right Flyer, made four flights that day, and it was made of only wood, like literally [bleep] plywood and glue. It was 120 ft for 12 seconds. That’s amazing. Hey, that’s pretty good for the first, they like, can you imagine being like, oh my [bleep] God, we’re doing it, we’re flying? So obviously this is, this is the, this is a famous story of American Ingenuity and and the start of Aviation across the planet.
Um, and what’s crazy about this story is that this happened in 1903, and the start of Boeing is 1916. Oh wow, they were like, they were like, [bleep], we’re doing this. So the evolution of this is wild, and and you’ve probably seen on a lot of Tik toks and a lot of videos where they go, how did we go from no flight to landing on the moon in 50 years? I mean, pretty much, yeah, because we went, if we did land, oh God, here we go, and this is why J is on the show. So the history of the Boeing Company is a journey through the evolution of Aviation, from the beginning to what it is today.
Established in 1916 by William Boeing, uh, and it was established as Pacific Aro Products company, and the company played a pivotal role in shaping Aviation from the beginning to to where it is now. Um, the first flight of Boeing aircraft happened on July 15th, 1916. So their flight was only 13 years after the first flight of man. Sh, like that was like commercial? Yeah, the aircraft was the Boeing model one, Al, known as the Boeing BMW, or the Boeing Bluebell, which was a SE plane designed by William Boeing and a Navy Lieutenant named Conrad Westervelt. Rad name, dude. Yeah, that guy sounds like, sounds like you should have like a coin after him.
So it happened in Seattle, and this is where Boeing started, was in Seattle. Did know that. And so it was the beginning of what would become one of the biggest companies on Earth. Yeah, are they one of the biggest companies on earth? Oh yeah, for sure. Oh, cuz they also get like a bunch of Defense contracts too, so yeah, they’re huge, they’re massive. So the Boeing Company began as a small aircraft manufacturer in Seattle, its initial success came with the production of sea planes for military use. There you go, there we go. During World War I, the company renamed to Boeing. Oh, from the Pacific, Pacific Arrow?
Yeah, exactly. After the war, Boeing shifted to commercial Aviation. Is that a last name or something, Boeing, or, yeah, Willi? Okay, there you go, I didn’t catch that, sorry. God, L, whatever’s in this Yeti is amazing, this tea I’m having is really good. Spectacular tea, folks, in case you have noticed. So in the 30s, Boeing continued to innovate, introducing iconic aircraft such as the model 247, and it was the first modern airliner with an all metal frame. Oh [bleep], they were still using like wood and [bleep], like wood signing? Yeah, basically, you know, little 2x4s holding the the [bleep] Wheels. Yeah, made out of a pallet wood, little DIY project, look, it, it’s only good for two years and erods.
So they also, uh, one of the first things they developed was the B7, and oh [bleep], this was known as The Flying Fortress, B7 bomber, baby, think big dog. Uh, and so that B17 evolved into what would become the b29, which was the Super Fortress, and that was what carried the, the news, like, well, it’s also, it carries tanks and [bleep] too, like, y, those things are [bleep] so big, they’re like, how do they even get off the ground? Yeah, so they like the one they had at the uh, at the airfit, probably? Right, that’s right. They both went to the air show, by the way, and that was fun, I was invited.
So it wasn’t like I was left out, so honestly, it was red, I didn’t go on purpose. It, cool. I mean, aside, aside from the, yeah, it was a 2hour waiting. Yeah, for everything. For every, yeah, for [bleep] everything, dude, you want to buy water. They, they decided not to have uh, shade, so, like anywhere, so like a thousand people were parked under a plane. Yeah, under the plane, uh, the wing, under, under the B27, just, yeah, exactly, just the kids screaming because they’re dehydrated. And it was a good time, a good time. So happy it was free. It was free? Yeah, it was free to get.
It was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was free. Yeah, what, it was worth it. Not, not my, wouldn’t bee the harassment I would have received from my child, like, not free. Chickenend? Oh yeah, 29, I, I’m exaggerating, but no, it was up there. Yeah, it was up there. 25.9? No, was $88.99, not including fries, not including like sauce, something like that. You want a drinks? Another 20 bucks. Yeah, like booze. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Like, I would have gone, can, that’s the only reason. Me, all right kids, go have fun, I’m spend $400. So, as as the, these uh companies do, like during the war, they, they, they, for lack of a better word, they blow up, they explode, they, they, they grow, all that guaranteed funds.
Yeah, exactly. So the war ended, and then they had to further their um innovation in order to move towards passenger airliners, you know what I mean. Um, but they did, and they revolutionized air travel, and they actually were the ones who made it so, in the 60s, air, air tra became affordable. I, I, I have a, I have a really question. Yeah. Do they just stop having like smoking and [bleep] on planes cu, like for, like, because no one wants to be around that smoke, or is it because of like a an actual, like, no, it had to be like fire or some [bleep]? No dude, they were ripping like secondhand smoke, do you remember?
I remember like my first couple times on a plane, they still had the ash race, like in the arm. Like, have you ever seen the um, there’s like a video going around on Tik Tok, like this old school, it was like from 1980, so not, maybe not that old school, about drinking and driving, and then people are getting so pissed off that there’s a new law, you can’t drink while you’re Drive. They’re like, what’s a man supposed to do when he gets off work? I got to wait until I get home, I can’t crack a beer in the car? How dare you? What’s a man supposed to do when he gets off work?
I just bought the six-pack, it needs to be drunk. Dude, my Grandpa would drive and drink Takati Light. Yeah, just in a pickup truck. Yeah, 700 for the translation. Tak T, does that stand, that mean, in English? I don’t know, bud. Yeah, bud, it’s the bush, it’s the bush of Mexican beer, Bush Ice. Uh, so in the 60s, like I was saying, they, they, they basically made the industry, they made it so that, you know, the the businessman can fly from LA to Chicago, uh, in an affordable way. Yeah, you know, way more affordable than driving. And it used to be like a whole event, like people used to get [bleep] like, and [bleep], people get like dressed up.
Nowadays, [bleep], people showing up in like pajamas and Crocs. And honest, you can see the evolution of cost cutting, right? Yeah, because at the beginning, you go, okay, every seat had room. Yeah, ample room, a little cocktail even. Um, DB Cooper had like a a whiskey and a Coke, or what, what do you have, something, 3.99? He wasn’t in like economy plus, he was like, [bleep], just like RI. Now I’m literally, Eric, status economy, business, silver. I mean, it’s not a big deal, it’s not a big deal, whatever, not a big deal. No, but nowadays you, you basically are literally groping people, because you’re so close to them, you’re so tight, and it’s all because they cuss, they’re C, they cred.
And cost. Yeah, I mean, you ever have like the awkward armrest moment? Oh, oh yeah, I’m the biggest guy in the plane, I’m like, and I’m still like, I’m still forced to like give up my like, you know, two and a quarter inch of armrest. I put up with that. What I hate is the, when it’s like my knees are hitting the the the seat in front of me. I hate, dud, we did, when we had our honeymoon in in Spain, we flew from England to Spain, and this was the small, the shittiest, it was a full massive plane, there, like chickens and cages, like, I was, my leg, I literally had to have my legs like up to my chest, it was that small.
And I was like, do you have, even, even the exit row was like, you’re [bleep], like there’s no space anywhere. I was like, how would do people fly? Anyways, your, uh, I have, I have a, I have an actual problem, I’m going to just tell the whole audience. Um, so I have, I have elevated arm hair. Yes, I can see. So if I’m sitting in the armrest situation, I’m not necessarily touching somebody, the hair is touching them. Yeah, so the hair is like, so literally it’s like tickling somebody, and they’re like, stop, it’s a problem, stop touching, my hand is in a fist. I don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s an actual problem.
Like, listen, Bal man, maybe before I go there, I should just shave this part one slot. And I point, I did it for you. But what if, what if, what if you’re in the window, what if you’re in the middle, if you’re in the middle, middle, got to do both, double times. Yeah, just cut your arm. Fine. Anyways, so um, in the 1980s, Boeing further expanded its reach into the Aerospace industry with the acquisition of, uh, uh, Aerospace and defense assets, including the merger with a company called Veral Corporation, which was a helicopter manufacturer, uh, and the, then the AC acquisition of Rockwell Internationals, another Aerospace division.
So they just keep kind of expanding in aviation, and kind, just keep going, you know. Uh, in the ’90s, um, Boeing started to face some Challen, is, uh, they finally had some competition. Uh, damn it, no more Monopoly, [bleep]. So uh, a company called Airbus, have you heard of? Oh dude, they make the super sick ones, like, uh, like if you fly into Dubai and like the double decker, like they’re huge, so awes. So Airbus started manufacturing planes, and and and it’s not, it didn’t happen overnight, like, just imagine you get 1% of the market, and then a year later you got 2%, and then 5 years later you got 3%, huge Market though, you know what I mean, and then you keep going, and then you know, eventually, what happened, uh, I, I won’t spoil it, but um, they kept going, they kept expanding, Airbus, you know, and it became a problem in the 90s.
Okay, for Bo, for shareholders, you to kill these, know, I mean, Boeing, for Boeing. Yeah, think about it, if you had 90% of the market, well, yeah, I’m sorry, that’s called like antitrust law, it’s like, there’s a reason that you can’t have him, an, there’s a reason that Microsoft got shut down back in the day, to let Apple thrive. True. It’s not like, you imagine like the sharees of Microsoft being like, but we’re killing it, like, let’s just, let’s just, why is this happening, we’re killing it, like we’re killing it right now, what, it’s happening. So, so basically, up until 97 or 95 is, uh, Boeing had pristine reputation, and they even had a saying, people had a saying in the industry, and it was, if it’s not Boeing, I’m not going.
Oh, that’s AE, sounds familiar. Yeah, I think I heard. So it was like Boeing was the premium, it, the the Mercedes, it was the, I don’t know, give me some more, uh, it was, what’s the gold, it was like the Conspiracy Podcast of podcast. You know, what you’re on to something, you are on to something. Yeah, that’s the, yeah, that’s what it is, it’s the, that’s what it is, so that’s what it is, they were the Conspiracy Podcast of airflight. So um, so in 1997, Boeing merged with McDonald Douglas, um, and 1997, and this is when a lot of conspiracy theorists and a lot of whistleblowers say, yeah, really things started to change.
Um, eventually, the CEO of McDonald Doug, mcdouglas, took over as CEO of Boeing. Oh, so he’s like, we’re going to go to the McDonald Douglas standard. Yeah. And so just imagine, Maxime, just imagine your company for the last 30 years is, is all about, you know, culture, and it is perfect, otherwise don’t do it. But so just imagine, you know, the culture was, was that, and it was, it was, it was about perfectionism, and it was about safety, and it was about making the best airplane that you could make. And then, and then a new company came in, start taking your [bleep], changing your policies, how much cash can we make, yeah, cash this out, maybe letting go of every third person, yeah, who maybe was like there for 35 years, all the quality control Texs.
Well, that’s the problem with like public companies, is they’re, that it’s all about shareholders, bottom line, baby, bottom line, you got to cut cost everywhere, y. So as of today, here’s where Boeing kind of stands, you ready? Ready. Mhm. Uh, 141,000 employees, that’s a [bleep] shitload. Who, a lot of, that’s, that’s some extraordinary amount. Boeing competes with Airbus. Now, as of today, Boeing held 45 to 50% of market share. That’s a great, that’s a great Market. In the 80s and 90s, they were at 80 to 90, right? But obviously, can’t, if they had that now, they would get, oh yeah, they would get, the government would be like, sorry.
Mhm. Yeah, uh, Boeing’s Revenue fluctuates, and you could kind of, you could look it up, their publicly traded company. Um, but essentially, it’s 58 to 60 billion per year. Per year. I mean, it’s, they’re lucky, that, because that’s happened, that’s what happened to every, like, happened to the Bell Corporation because they had a monopoly on telephones, it happened to Standard Oil, it happened to, um, Microsoft, it happened, like, they, it’s just, yeah, the reason, those, it would have happened anyway, it would have happened, like, so it’s like, at least they, like, it naturally glided down before they had the government intervene, no pun intended. Oh, a, wow, whoops, it is it, um.
Okay, cool. So uh, then I wanted to go over a little bit of of of the airline industry, and um, I mean mainly Boe, but uh, because what, when I was doing some of the research, I realized how safe it is. Oh, it’s statistically so much safer than driving. Oh, it’s insan, it’s like you were, way, you’re, you have like a 80% chance higher to die while driving than flying. It’s a, it’s a, it’s an amazing feat actually, I thought, of of of mankind, that they were able to put, uh, regulatory companies or oversight committees, and they were able to make it so it was so procedural and so many people checking on it, that it became that safe.
Well, yeah, the air traffic control systems in place, and like there is, like they have to communicate within a certain amount of time, like just the aircraft itself, like is, is definitely super safe, for sure. But they didn’t really have like issues like that right at the beginning, or, I mean, yeah, they, they did, they did. So then that’s why they brought in all these committees, make sure everything’s safe, and all that [bleep], and hijackings, and W, that’s not all, they’re all around airflight, like, you know. Okay, then you add in security problems, then you add in, okay, but the hijack, that was, that was just 20 something years ago.
No, no, but I mean, even, even like DB Cooper hijacked, uh, a bunch of people in Europe hijacked, uh, uh, the one in Kosovo hijacked, you’re talking about it overall, like, just said the industry evolution of it all. And uh, the fatality rate for commercial Aviation is measured in fatalities per billion. Oh wow. So it’s, that’s how small, is per billion kilometers flown? Sorry. Okay, okay, we’re never going to get, they’re like, we’re at literally 00.1%. So, according to the International Air Transportation Association, the global average fatality rate for commercial aviation in 2019 was approximately 9 fatalities per billion, per billion passenger Kil flown. Kil flown.
Okay, so think about that, 9 fatalities per billion miles flown. Now, about how many billion miles do we fly a month, or a year, or what? One9. It’s for every 10 million miles flown, there’s nine people who die. But again, like, how often are we flying, 10, me, wait, 10 million or 10 billion? No, so if you, if you move the decimal twice, you go, you go from a billion, 100 million, to 10 million. Yeah, and so then 09. So it’s nine people die for every 10 million miles flown. But I guarantee there’s like probably 10 million miles flown in like two days, that’s what I’m thinking, or like one day, that’s what I was thinking, like, it’s not, not that much.
So it’s estimated that there are 10,000, or, I’m sorry, 100,000 flights a day. But, but what’s the average flight miles? Yeah, in terms of Miles, what do you think? I would say a couple FL days, two hours, right, two hours, they’re traveling anywhere from 3 to 500 miles an hour. So let’s say that, let’s say, just do little math here. So let’s say that, maybe even 400 miles an hour, let’s just say that, let’s just say the average. So, from here, Texas is 800 mil, let’s say the average flight is 800, flights, and there’s 10,000 flights per day, 800 miles, 800 miles, but let’s convert that to Kil.
100,000 flights, so 100,000 flights per day, per day. All right, so that’s 422 million kilometers per day. Okay. And then, times 365, that’s 154 billion, 176 million kilometers per year. And then, and then, times 09. Wow. No, was 0 z9? If you’re in the billions, it’s per billion, right? 0 Z, it’s 09 per billion, per billion, 9. No, it’s 09. Okay, so if you times that, times 09, it’s nine people dying every four days. I mean, no, it’s, okay, sorry, I’m, I’m doing the math wrong here. So yeah, so about roughly 14 people die a year. A year? Yeah, yeah, going about 14 people a year.
Okay, yeah, sorry, cuz I was, time, I was timesing the total kilometer say by0, not like 13 million people dying. For you, that just, not sound right. And that makes sense, I mean, statistically across the planet, it’s average, an average, so it’s like maybe one, two in one year, there’s like a couple crashes, and then there’s a couple years without them. So yeah, exactly, okay, all right, there’s your math lesson for today, folks. No, but we’re also, we’re also just like we’re guesstimating it based off an average flight of 800, 800 miles, which, but more or less, let’s say about 15 a year, whatever, right, let’s go with that number.
People, people, and then the average flight is about 150 passengers. I mean, but, but guess how many flights there are, you know how many flights there, statically, Tampa, Tampa to England every day, I think there’s like two or three from Tampa to England every day. Yeah, but we got to average it out, then you also got, you got people going to Miami, right, you know what I mean. Or, I know, but I’m just saying, like, that flight is like, you know, that’s like 4,000 miles, whatever, anyways, continue. Okay, but I mean, overall, the point is, is it’s, I mean, that’s the, one of the safest statistics that exist, you know what I mean?
You know how many people died today from car crashes? Way more, probably, that a day. In C water, many people died today from a heart disease? Yeah. Or, if you, you did something simple as, was like, okay, if we walk to 7-Eleven right now, what are the odds of us dying, one of us dying, is probably, you know, pretty good odd in this Hood. Yeah, I know, this ghetto. Uh, so it’s just a safe, you know, I don’t know, impressive. And I mean, I don’t like to bring up the whole pyramids thing, but it’s impressive what man has achieved. We love to bring that up.
Oh my, if you think about it, it’s just impressive, what, what man has achieved. Man is capable of anything, God. You know what’s impressive, like the heights that man is capable of. Yeah, how much hype you put on man’s achievements. I know, I’m proud of man. Thousands of years ago, they were way smarter than they are now, by the way, I actually, we just like literally gone downhill since the pyramids, as far as man’s, uh, skills. And we’re finally on the come up, the come up, thanks to AI, we’re finally getting back to even. Yeah, back to, back to zero. So the other day, the other day, I woke up at like 4 in the morning, and I just couldn’t, couldn’t fall back asleep, and I was just sitting there, and I think I figured out how we should do the pyramids episodes.
Okay, I think I figured out, like, the basic concept, right? I think we should do one episode that is kind of like, you know, vanilla kind of history of the pyramids being built, and then Sea gets an episode, and then I get an episode. Okay, my, and our goal, a battle, is to sway, he decides at the end of it, and so it’s a three-parter. If you can sway Jorge, I’ll quit, the, mean, and it’s, it’s a three-parter, and you get to say all your arguments, and you get to lay it out and do your, all your research of how you could argue it, and then me too.
I like that. And then, you know what I mean, you know what, I like, I like the concept. Yeah, if you change, I’m literally leaving. Hey, it’s up to Eric, just say, it’s an idea. Yeah, well, good for you, you see, I’m already on your side. So it’s, it’s all up to it, like the burden of, the burden’s on, the burden of proof, harder self for me. But, but you were saying, you, working before, a.m., like, yeah, I also woke up at 4 a.m. by some small human who I’m responsible for, last night. Yeah, anyways, continue. Uh, okay, so fast forward, um, a little bit to, um, the Lion, a disaster, have you heard of this?
[bleep] Never heard of that. [bleep] Okay, so Lion Air is a, uh, it’s, do you know where Jakarta is, Indonesia? Yeah. Um, okay, uh, it’s a small airline that, that was founded there, and it, it’s based out of there, and it does flights from there as their main Hub. Yeah, okay. Um, and and, just before we get going on this, they are not allowed to fly into the United States, because of our FAA says that they’re not up to the standards of Airlines into the United States. Sure, damn, okay, so that’s probably why you’ve never heard of them. Yeah, uh, coming gate A2 is Jakarta Airline.
So they, uh, were founded in 1999, it’s the large, largest privately owned Airline, um, and they do domestic and international. Uh, Lion Airlight 610 was scheduling, or scheduled, to do a domestic flight from Jakarta to, uh, Pai Panang, and it departed Jakarta’s airport on October, oober, uh, 29th, 2018. It’s pretty recent, yeah, oh wow, this is hella recent. Uh, the aircraft involved was a Boeing 737 Max, sounds big. Okay, the Max, in there now, just so you know, this airplane is the topic of the rest of the, 737, have, oh, it’s a 737 Max, like 737, they just Fu, this is the Whistleblower, this is his, this is, he’s upset about this play, or he was, he was, but what, what is the, the most common one that we use now, is it 737?
737, but the Vari, I thought, 7? So both, both. Okay, and there’s so many variants of it, it’s like the iPhone 1 to 15, okay, which Sean wouldn’t know anything about. Yeah, so I don’t know, Sam, Samsung S, Sean, Sean is like the LI, he has like the Lion Air, uh, kind of phone. What, that’s just better than yours, that’s just better than yours, every possible way, he’s got the Lion Air note three. Okay, I want to, I am phone. Okay, so can we have, uh, the archive, our archive list, go through the episodes, how many times has jge been like, well, yeah, I mean the camera is better, and, yeah, I, this is better, I, I, I admit the camera, everything else is better too.
No, no, no, oh, like your stupid [bleep] [bleep]. So the 737, anyways, so the Boeing 737 Max was the new 737. Okay, okay, okay, so they called it the Max, it was the upgrade, it was the, whatever, the, and now, what we will learn later is that the Boeing 737, the original design, is, dates all the way back to the 70s. Oh wow, so they were like, no innovation? So, what, they, no, on it, no, you’re right, you’re right. No, no, you’re, you’re 100% right. So what they did is they found out that if you keep the base design, you have less time to go through the FAA.
It’s kind of like, oh, you can think, cheat the system, like, yeah, it’s the same plan. It’s like getting, it’s like you don’t have to get Viagra through the FDA because you call it Viagra Max. Viagra, yeah, VI, do the generic version formula, and it’s a quick version to guaranteed four hours plus. That’s right. So we’ll go over that a little bit later, Max. Um, but so they took hold, they got this 737 Max, right? Okay, okay. So Flight 610 was carrying 189 passengers and crew members, including Pilots, flight attendants, passengers, Etc. Um, and the flight’s route typically lasted an hour, it was an hour flight, not a big deal, J.
Yeah. Um, pre-flight prep involved routine checks by the ground crew maintenance Personnel, uh, the flight crew conducted pre-flight briefings, checked the weather, the weather was clear, flight P plans, they were, they were good to go. Yeah, yeah, everything was good. Takeoff in initial stages of the flight proceeded normally with the aircraft climbing to cruising altitude, however, shortly after takeoff, the aircraft experienced a flight control Behavior, with the flight crew struggling to maintain a stable flight. So all of a sudden, it was going like this, holy [bleep], after five minutes in the air. That’s scary. Have you ever been in like super bad turbulence? I, I say I have, but I don’t, super bad.
It was like I’ve been in like moderately bad, but it’s never been like where they’re like, don’t, they’re like, we’re [bleep] experiencing some [bleep], or where the [bleep] like drops down. Not that bad. I mean, I haven’t had it that bad. I would have freaked, I would have, I would have like freaked out. Uh, I would say the worst I’ve been in, I did pee on myself, that’s pretty bad. Like, I was in the bathroom. Were you drunk? Oh, you, in the bathroom, in the bathroom, like, no, like the turbulence, and then you hit the wall. But that’s, I thought you made like, you pee in your seat.
I was in the, I was scared [bleep], I peed myself, scared PE. Like, I got up when they told me not to get up, I went to the bathroom. Oh yeah. Done. Is it against the low? Yeah, is it against, like, bro, I am like three $9 beers deep, I have to go to the bath tonight, right now. So they started like shaking around, up and down, that’s pretty crazy, it was going like, so basically the pilots were trying to pull up, and the plane was pitching forward. Oh, so like the, they’re like, what the [bleep], why is it going down, who inverted my settings, exactly.
Um, so the aircraft experienced erratic flight control behavior, in the flight crew struggling to to maintain a stable flight, and um, uh, it led into them crashing into the ocean at full speed. Oh [bleep], they couldn’t even slow down. Yeah, and every person on the plane was killed instantly. Basically, I mean, how, they don’t know that, but Bas, based on the box, based on the box that they found. Mhm, they know the speed. Uh, so they were going like 350 into the water with, so I mean, and then nothing remained of the fuselage, or the, um, so I mean, OD, odd, they, odar, was pretty, pretty, pretty fast.
Um, so what they determined, that’s my worst fear, like in the water, like, well, crashing in the water but not dying. I’ll crash, yeah, I’ll crash in in a city, in the pavement, yeah, like, just have me blow up and like, I’m done. But like, like shar, drowning in the middle of the ocean, that’s way worse. Yes. Can you swim? Yeah, but not, why, you’re [bleep], buckid, 350, M, hour, yeah, all the places you would rather go, on land, mountain, bro, send me into a mountain, guaranteed. You guys are crazy. Yeah, I’ll go in the water, you have a better chance of living, in the middle of the, but you’re going to die.
Let’s say you’re going to die. But I’m not going to die. No, but you are. Like, listen, me personally, I’m not, like, er, tuck and duck, tuck and duck. Breaking news, there was one Survivor, One Survivor, everybody. They were like, well, how did you do? He’s like, tuck and duck. They like, what, sounds like, I just, I tucked and I ducked. So I mean, obviously, I know we’re, we’re, we’re joking, and you know, you know, super, so, 189 people died. Um, and what they determined was there was something that they installed on these new planes, and it was called MCASS, MCA, yeah, and it stands for Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System.
And basically, it was like, if you could just imagine, it’s not AI, but it’s a, an alert system, so if the pitch of the plane is not correct, it will auto correct. Okay, okay, yeah, and, like, yeah, it’s in essence, it’s a system that, almost like cruise control, almost, yeah, a little bit, or it’s like course correction, you know, like, some like if you’re going out of your lane, it’s like, hey, [bleep], I hate that [bleep], turn that [bleep] off. What would happen though is, if it never, never ended, it, it controlled you so much that, like, crashed you, that it crashed you. You’re like, no, I’m, I’m, I’m getting it.
Say, but they’re like, this is not correct. Yeah, it’s like, this is, so it kept correcting them, correcting them down. So they installed this on the Boeing, uh, the 737 Max, right? Yeah, so, so, pretty much, we need more Patron so Eric can afford to get, to get the [bleep] the full self driving, please. But essentially, the, the, the sensor, um, and so here, where, where did they get this first off? Right, is they got it from the, they call it the Black Box. Yeah, they retrieve the black box, and the black box is provides so much data, that they, it could tell you everything you want, probably, like, all the, all the systems that were erroring, all, st, everything.
And, um, funny enough on this, I learned that it’s not a black box, it’s an orange box. Oh, really, why do they call it black? I know, I think the originals were black. Oh, they were like, we, to make them easier, scene, like, and a wreckage, are like, it’s all black, it sounds cool, but they’re actually orange. Oh, cool, cuz if you think about it, orange is easier to find. That’s what I’m saying, like, you can see it, especially if on a wreckage, there’s, and like all that [bleep]. So, um, so essentially, they found in the, the Orange Box, they found that the sensor was faulty, and it was overt triggering the MCAST to repeatedly cause the nose to pitch down.
Oh, they would pull up, and P, P, pull. Yes, and so they found, and they found it in the box, that it turned on like 15 times. Jesus [bleep], they kept, and there wasn’t, there wasn’t like an MCAST override, like, so here, here’s the thing, like manual control switch. Yes, there is, there is, and it was like, no, trust me, trust me. But what happened is, this is not financial advice, the pilots weren’t trained. Oh my God. Okay, so this is pilot error? Yeah, I mean, it’s MC air, and it’s pilot, it’s like double air, Boeing needs to train the pilots on the new system.
Oh, and they didn’t tell them, they’re like, surprise, surprise, this is the max tutorial, no big deal. So, of course, you know, because it’s a Indonesian Airline, it became like, oh, they’re, you know, Indonesia, low grade, and they don’t, they’re not real Pilots, you can’t fly on the US. Yeah, like, they, they really came under scrutiny for that, and and that sucked, and if you could imagine the pilots, oh man, that’s the worst. Oh yeah, cuz you know, they were probably decent pilots, and they got [bleep] railed, of course, because they were told they didn’t have to do training, and they’re like, okay, sure, they’re like, it’s the same plan, it’s the same plane, it’s just got the new name.
So now this part is, is very conspiratorial, because you don’t know a lot of the internal documents. No, and you don’t know what Boeing said, what they didn’t say, the memos, the, the, you know, did they train them enough, or did they train them not at all, you know, that sort of thing. So that’s where it gets a little hard to do research, because we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, we don’t know, you know what I mean. So, um, uh, but the key findings from the investigation of, of, uh, their FAA, it’s like their equivalent of the FAA, uh, was that the, it needed a comprehensive overhaul of the design, the pilot training, and Regulatory oversight, and recommended redesigning the whole MCAST system, enhancing pilot training programs to address, what do they do, because in the, in the case, it, like, malfunction.
Yeah, cuz in one of the manuals, they found that the pilot’s reaction error to that is, under, should be under 10 seconds. Mh, oh, and he’s like, oh [bleep], this was happen, super fast, if you ask me, like, I don’t know how, I’m not a pilot, so I don’t know how fast you need to know this [bleep]. Have you ever seen the inside of a cockpit? I’d be like, oh, what’s happening, but 10 seconds to do, that’s pretty fast. Anyways, so, you know, there you go. Um, so essentially, the, the conclusion to that flight, to the Lion, Lion Air flight, was, um, I consider the Indonesians, yeah, well, I mean, a series of different things that, that I just kind of, I mean, nothing changed.
They, m, is perfect. Yeah, they didn’t ground planes, they didn’t, um, they didn’t really do anything, you know, and they said, hey, let’s do more training on the MCAST system, and it never did. Yeah, we’ll put it on the docket, say we did, and, yeah, exactly, just sign it off. What time it is? Oh [bleep], we got to go. Okay, so then, in March, this is like five months later, okay, March, and this is an Ethiopian flight, 2019. Yeah, that’s right. Okay, there’s, there’s a little trend here, like, are they just giving like all these other nations like the [bleep] planes, like, or some real crisp planes for you here, or they’re not giving them the training, you know, I mean, so they’re just like, hey, it’s like, I don’t know, just imagine giving somebody who drove a Model T Ford, and then giving him the keys to your car, I don’t know if it would, yeah, they be like, I don’t know if that’s a good analogy because it’s, it’s so time difference, but right, I’m just trying to understand, like, more train, I don’t know, yeah, it seems like they’re, it’s like you’re giving a, you’re giving like a new thing, there’s like a new, like, say you get like a new OS that’s has like a major change, yeah, and they’re like, yeah, figure it out, you’re like, well, why can’t I upload [bleep] the same, and they’re like, what’s the problem, yeah, yeah, what you were saying is more so like when you go from like [bleep] Apple to Microsoft, or back, you know, reverse, like, it’s hard to figure that out, but essentially, it’s the same thing, it’s a computer, it’s the same thing, but little learning curve, I know, I’ve tried, and I’m like, that’s why you guys like switched the Apple.
So one time, I literally went to store, I was like, let me just look at it, and I was like, [bleep] that, I was like, and not because it wasn’t the cool, I was like, I can’t do it, it’s too weird, it’s too different. It’s hard, yeah. So um, on March 10th, 2019, um, the Ethiopian flight 302 was a Boing 737 Max 8, so it’s clear, the max, whatever, same, same plane, it’s the Max, same [bleep] plane. Um, they, they took off, and, uh, and they crashed shortly after takeoff, was same, they’re like, what the [bleep], and, uh, 157 people died. Jesus, damn. Um, they departed from, uh, Adi Ababa, Adi Ababa Bow International Airport at 8:38, uh, the initial climb, shortly after takeoff, the aircraft encounter difficulties, including erratic altitude changes, and air speed fluctuation.
So same [bleep]. Yeah, they’re like, up, up, up, they’re like, nope, down, down. The flight crew reported control problems to air traffic control, and requested to return to the airport immediately, uh, but 6 minutes later, lost contract, and they crashed near the town, uh, in Ethiopia, just minutes after the flight. And when was this? This is in 2019, March 2019. Okay, so the other one was October 2018, this is March 2019. Uh, that’s so recent, I would have thought by that point, like, they already had that system, you know, like, but here’s the thing, I can, I can, and and and it sucks for the families, and you know, obviously, that’s horrible, but but I can understand an accident happening.
Yeah, accidents do happen, I can understand it, but like, that accident, the same thing, means they didn’t do anything. That’s what, remember, it’s like too many, too many coincidences, yesal, because it becomes a conspiracy. So in my view, after reading this and researching this, they are liable for these guys. Oh, for sure, for the one, right, first one, like, first one’s like. Shame on me, you know, or sh, shame on you, on. So that’s my opinion of, of this, is that they [bleep] up big time, and like, you know, we’re not changing [bleep], Bo, we’re the biggest, we’re the best. Okay, so they discovered that it was the MCAST system, and so the, the design of it was to prevent stalls, uh, and so if you’re, if you’re pitched up or down too much, okay, yeah, you’re going to stall.
Stall, yeah, so it, it, yeah, like just like [bleep], oh yeah, so but the over correction based on a faulty sensor, or a [bleep] bird could hit the sensor, cuz it’s literally jutted out of the plane. Oh [bleep], so the, it’s like, yeah, it’s on the outside, so literally anything could happen, and then the sensor’s faulty, and then all of a sudden it’s, which wasn’t the case anyway, right? It was like a bird didn’t hit it, it was just faulty, or they didn’t know how to use it. Or do you think it was more like it’s just faulty equipment? It could be like they, they like didn’t program it right.
Right, right, they’re like, oh, this is going to be the tits, every this MC me the [bleep], and gu, like guy’s like, it’s program, right? He’s like, yeah, oh yeah, and he’s like on Fiverr, he’s like trust, he’s like, it’s programed right, you program that [bleep], trust us, trust us, totally fine, just plug it in, plug it’s Plug and Play, they don’t need training. So um, okay, so that crash happened, and then, you know, another investigation was done, and then by that time, um, the world is like, [bleep] this [bleep], you know what I mean, like, this is now, now it’s now, it’s becoming a thing.
Yeah, and so um, at that time, um, Donald Trump was the president. [bleep] is [bleep] bowing, tak down. He was the first president in history to ground planes. Oh [bleep], for this, or overall ground all ples of a model? Oh, okay, okay, all Maxes. All Max, all Maxes. So Donald Trump, uh, grounded all Boeing 737 Max Fleet across the planet. Y, and so we’re going to play that clip right now. Uh, we’re going to be issuing an emergency order of prohibition to ground all flights of the 737 Max 8 and the 737 Max 9, and planes associated with that line. I’ve spoken to Elain CH, Secretary of Transportation, Dan Elwell, acting administrator of the FAA, and to Dennis Mullenberg, CEO of Boeing, and they’ll be available shortly after our conference today.
They are all in agreement with the action. Any plane currently in the air will go to its destination, and thereafter be grounded until further notice. So uh, planes that are in the air will be grounded, if they’re the 737 Max, will be grounded upon landing at the destination. Uh, Pilots have been notified, uh, Airlines have been all notified, airlines are agreeing with this. The safety of the American people, and all people, is our Paramount concern. Our hearts go out to all of those who lost loved ones, to their friends, to their families, in both the Ethiopian and the Lion Airlines crashes that involved the 737 Max aircraft.
Uh, it’s a terrible, terrible thing. Uh, Boeing is an incredible company, they are, uh, working very, very hard right now, and hopefully they’ll very quickly come up with the answer, but until they do, the planes are grounded, and you’ll be hearing from the FAA directly in a little while, I would say probably in 45 minutes from now, so you’ll be prepared to hear, they’re going to go into great detail as to what they found, and where we’re going, what we’re doing, but all of the planes are grounded, effective immediately. Is we, he has that power, I guess, you’re the president, worldwide, or US? He only has the power in the US, I think, but, no, no, but here’s, US company, correct, but also, everybody’s gna follow the US.
Well, yeah, all 737 Max, like, yeah, [bleep], it, let R, exactly, so they’re, it’s like a, you know, yeah, yeah, so anyways, there you go. So that was, uh, unprecedented, as you, you would say? No, no, totally, I mean, at least, at least somebody did something about it. Yeah, I mean, I, I can, I can, I can imagine being like the person in the airport, being like, what the [bleep], I don’t want the stupid vard went on this flight, and, but not realizing what was going on. Yeah, right, but you know, hey, they could have, it’s, it’s, there’s a potentiality, they could have saved L, it’s totally potential.
I’ve been, I’ve been, uh, on board a couple planes, like before we take off, and it’s been a few times where it’s like, something’s, oh, mechanical, something or other, that they’re fix, you, it’s worse than they say. No, I always actually downplayed, I’m like, whatever, it’s like whatever, but like, maybe after this episode, I don’t know, man. D, my parents went to this wedding in Arizona, and they were on the runway for two hours, and then they’re literally like, they’re like, yeah, it’s a little thing with little part missing, and then they’re like, you got to get off the plane and get a new plane.
Yeah, like, literally, I was like, oh my God, they almost took off. Also, they don’t, they turn the AC off, and like, you can’t get up, I know, you’re trapped in their little tiny prison. One time, we were taking off from New York, and um, there was a bunch of, so, there there was something that happened that delayed everyone, and there, so there was a bunch of planes just waiting, yeah, just stacked waiting to take off. And so they were like, look, we’re waiting, uh, it could take 20 minutes, or it could take two hours, and then they turned off the AC. But I was traveling with my, she was 6 months old, who, and we ran out of, uh, the food or, uh, milk, you know, was, was it, was it, uh, Esau, or is it, uh, Olivia, years ago, yeah, years ago, uh, and then, and then she starts crying, she starts getting like, like, let me off this [bleep].
So then the guy comes over, and they’re like, look, it’s up to you, we can turn around, go back, we were already like out there, we were already in line, it’s up to you. Yeah, he’s like, it’s up to you, you’re like, this is so much power, what do I do? No, no, so we were like, look, are we going, go back, take off, take off now, we were like, we, we can’t wait here. Yeah, it’s up to you. You, the, no, we were like, we can’t wait here, put in the box, sorry. So we made him go back, everybody [bleep] hated us, dude, like, they had, they had to go to the back of the line.
That’s kind of cool that they did that though. Yeah, and I was like, look, I’m, I’m going to do this for my daughter, like, [bleep] everybody else on this, I, I don’t give a [bleep], like L, I’d be like, that’s, but they, everybody hated us. I love that, they’re like, it’s up to you, like, they’re like, we’re not responsible for this. I know, well, he was saying it in a way of kind of like, look, don’t, don’t make us go back, but it’s up to you, you know, but but everybody’s going to hate you, but it’s up to you. Yeah, you’re piece of [bleep], it’s up to you, I’d be like, can you bring me one or two more Jin and Tonics, I think I can find a way to sleep this off, think this through.
I know, it’s like, how many Bloody Mary mixes you got back there? Anyway, so, so after a while, um, after the investigation, and you know, they really fast-tracked the investigation because all thees were grounded fleet. Um, the United States DOJ, the Department of Justice, uh, they charged Boeing with fraud, conspiracy. Oh wow. Related to the certification and marketing of the 737 Max series. And nobody did any time for that. Following investigations into the crashes of the Lion Air flight and the Ethiopian flight, the allegations that Boeing misled regulators and Airlines about the safety features of the 737 Max, particularly the MCAST system. Um, the MCAST system was designed to automatically adjust the aircraft’s angle of attack to prevent stalls, but FAL, faulty sensor data led to its activation, causing the aircraft to pitch downward uncontrollably, over and over.
Mhm. But like, did anybody like get, figure why? Well, no, no, I mean, like, their DOJ is like, we charg this company with, like, did, did they send some [bleep] to prison, like, somebody had to pay. No, nobody went to money, or nobody went to, did they, had to pay some fines? Yes, so it’s a big fine. I know, but but it’s still like, oh, they pay money, like, they make 60 billion a year, they’re like, damn, this is what it’s like the 2008 crisis, like everybody just gets slap on the wrist, and it wasn’t even slap on the wrist, they’re like, how much you need to get back in business, like, no problem, we going to give you, oh, you got a Bonus too, we’ll cover it.
I know, like, don’t worry about, it’s actually, it’s all part of, it’s all part of the plan. So the uh CEO resigned, yeah, oh wow, but there, a golden parachute, resigned, um, and got his stock, his stock payout was in about 20 million, but he got it. Yep, as part of, I resign, I would [bleep] resign too, me too, as part of the prosecution agreement with the DOJ, Boeing admitted to deceiving the FAA. Oh, they had to admit about the MCAST system, and agreed to pay 2.5 billion in fines and compensation. Did they pay the families of the, the [bleep] people who died? So they created a family fund of a half a billion.
Where’ the other two billion go? Who’s, the government. The government’s like, thanks, the government, like, thanks for that, L, that’s for lying to us, honestly, hon, families only get half. Honestly, to the FAA, that’s such [bleep] [bleep], and to other regulatory, see this is, okay, this is where like things can become a problem. I like, who cares, I know, [bleep] that, like. What about the families? The, that two and a half billion should go to the family, right? We’ve set aside $50 per family. Yeah, and then we’re going to take the rest. So essentially, what happened is they, they created a fund for the families, and it was $500 million, the fund.
Okay, and um, so you have 189 from Ethiopian flight, and then 157, and then, or the other way around, 189 for the Indonesian flight, and 157 for the Ethiopian, so that’s 3, 330. 330. U, so but then you take, uh, half of that for lower fees. Oh, so like each fl gets like 20 grand, third? Yeah, okay, third, third. So what, 200 million of the 500, for 300, so each, each family gets, it’s like they get like 800,000, then they probably have to pay taxes on it. Yeah, wow, so each family is getting like a million bucks, I mean, minus taxes. Minus, no, each, each family is getting like 800k, cu there’s, there’s 330, and there’s only 200 million, like, yeah, after taxes.
After tax, my [bleep] life, after taxes, they’re getting like 400k. Yeah, not, it’s not crazy. And then meanwhile, the FAA is like, we’re not paying taxes on this. Yeah, of course. Sorry, [bleep], I just, I thought it was, I know the numbers sound big, but they’re not big at all’re not, for 400 people. 3, no, especially when, especially when they died, the FAA is getting two billion for getting lied to. How do they get two, they didn’t die’s family didn’t [bleep] die. I know, I mean, if I was a real, like, in journalism, oh yeah, I would try to find out where the money went.
Oh dude, oh yeah, where did it, where did it physically go, where did, where did the wire transfer go, you know what I mean, it’s got to be wired somewhere. Yeah, like I don’t know how it, it probably went to like judge, yeah, McDonald, fa, lost it, like the Pentagon lost it, yeah, yeah, exactly, can’t account for it. I mean, we had an internal fire that we did not report, I don’t know what happened, the building came down, like, don’t look at my Cash App account. So, in addition to the financial penalties, Boeing committed themselves to implementing changes to its safety and compliance programs to prevent similar issues in the future.
Yeah, sure, yeah, they’re really, uh, the agreement aimed to hold Boeing accountable for its actions, while allowing the company to avoid criminal prosecution if it complied with the terms of those agreements, and app, and implemented those new terms of, uh, procedural oversight, s of speak. So now there’s, now they’re like, okay, we won’t pursue criminal things if you do this, and then now it’s like, they’re still like, well, we told him to study. I mean, we, so now there’s a couple documentaries that are out about a lot of this, uh, one of which is called Downfall, it’s on Netflix, check it out if you guys want.
I was watching a a Netflix thing on the Malaysian flight, yeah, which I looked up earlier, and that was a Boeing 7777. Yeah, so um, uh, John Barnett, who is, is going to be the focus of our, our part two. M, yeah, he’s gonna be the main focus of part two episode that we’re going to do. Um, but he is in that documentary, while he’s alive, while he’s alive, saying their, their standards have gone so low that they are like, something’s going to happen, crazy, it’s actually, he’s like, you know, it’s probably the same thing that happened with like Volkswagen, when, like, they got [bleep], they’re like, they were like defrauding, like, the emissions data, that they were going, they were like plugging in like a a tertiary system that was telling them like, oh, there’s no emissions, and then they were like, what’s this, and they’re like, oh [bleep], like [bleep].
So also, I couldn’t not bring up what happened in April of 2024. Oh, Alaska Airlines. Yeah, so Alaska Airlines flight, Eric was born in Alaska, that’s why. Well, no, I mean, that, I mean, yeah, the, literally, I mean, yeah, it was a terrifying experience, it’s on Tik Tok, it’s on video. I know, I did see it, the [bleep] door, the door flies off, flies off mid-flight, mid-flight, this, imagine sitting in the seat next to the door. Yeah, well, didn’t that F, or no, no, nobody flew? Okay, I thought somebody, but here’s what’s crazy, bathroom break, Su, here’s what’s crazy about like, sir, put your seat bel on, Eric’s like, uh, I’m going to the bathroom, here’s what’s crazy about that, is I’m the guy that never puts seat bel on.
I’m like, [bleep] you, [bleep] this, [bleep] you. I would be the gu, like, put your seat bel on, bro, I always, you’re like, you’ be the stranger next to me, like, hey, put your, put your [bleep] on, airplane mode. Yeah’s like, hey, put put the SE bel on, this is your first time flying? Uh, um, no, guess what, what plane it was, 7, 7:37 Max, Max n. Okay, so it’s like a running Trend here, that the Max planes are [bleep]. Yeah, so I’m going to check, if I go on a flight, I I refuse to fly on a Max, I’m not flying on a, so here’s what happened.
Essentially, they were flying out of the Northwest, I think it’s Seattle, and uh, within about, I would say, 15 minutes of the flight, they only got up to about 15,000 feet. Okay, which is like half of your, yeah, cuz cruising altit is like 30, 35,000. Yeah, exactly, so you’re like halfway, you know, like 10, you’re still going, you like cruising through the town, and you hear, and then all of a sudden, the [bleep] door flew off, and there just happened to be somebody who didn’t, nobody sat there, cuz one of the things, otherwise, they would have [bleep]. That’s what I, 100%, oh my God, that would be like the worst, can you imagine being that seat and you get stuck, I would hold on to you, let me go, we going get the [bleep] off me, H, be like, I didn’t put my seat bel on, he’s got a blanket over, he’s like, the seat bel’s on, sir, Eric’s like, I told you, told, now it’s time to go, deserve die.
I know, one casualty ain’t that bad. So you learn, so the sudden depressurization caused by the blown outd door created chaotic, and, you know, oh dude, kind of like chaos, like, just I mean, what have you ever put your arm outside the window going like 90 on the highway, it’s [bleep]. A, it is wild though, if you rewatch the video, you see the city lights, oh yeah, oh yeah, it’s just kind of a weirdal, but in that video, I feel like Steven Skull is going to jump out and be like, there’s a bomb on the plane, and like take the door. Why am I speaking in an accent?
I don’t, you don’t sound like Stepen Skull at all, at all, give me a Stephen Skull, what is, just look at this seriously, he likes a whisper, oh yeah, he’s a whisper, he’s a whisper, you’re [bleep] dead. Okay, yeah, no, but in that video, I didn’t see a lot of commotion, chaos going on, I mean, obviously, you see the door, but like, people, I don’t know, walking around, or screaming, nothing. I would have, I would have been screaming, by [bleep], bloody murder. There’s no video of when it happened, no, it was like after the fact, I think that’s, people were like, oh, I’m going to take a picture, they’re just coasting, they’re just, you know, so I would literally, I would have sound like, uh, Chris Tucker and [bleep] Fifth Element, was Ruby Rock, [bleep], straight up like [bleep] whimsical scream.
So fortunately, the, the flight crew quickly responded to the emergency, they initiated emergency procedures, um, they, uh, immediately descended to a lower altitude, so the cabin pressure was fine, um, and they stabilized the aircraft, and then they went to air traffic control, like, crea a spot now, yeah, and they said, we’re [bleep] landing, the door flew off, like, we’re out of here. But in this day and age, [bleep] Tik Tok rolled it hard, of course, and um, you know, social media or whatever, so uh, that was, T, pretty wild, wasing was pretty wild, and and it falls into this, and and and then what happened afterwards, um, was one of the main whistleblowers of this whole, uh, Boeing evolution, from the, from actually from the 80s to to the ’90s, worked there for like 30 years, yeah, uh, and he was, he was testifying, he was testifying, he mid the test, mid, and it was like day two of four, yeah, and and apparent, and and witnesses say he was happy go-lucky and kind of, there was no indication of, de, or, no, that dude was like Suicidal Thoughts, he was a good dude doing the right thing, he was doing the [bleep] right thing, this is a case of, silence him.
So yeah, so then what happened is, he was staying at a hotel because he was there to testify at a r town or whatever, and um, and then a receptionist of the hotel lobby said they heard a pop, they, uh, police came to the truck he had, a truck or whatever, okay, and he was found with a gunshot wound to his head, and there was no gun in his hand, and the gun was in his hand, and there’s no, there’s no video of this, no video. I mean, of course not, and this is John Baret. I mean, yeah, if it happened, like, inside his room or something, F, I can understand, there’s, yeah, but I mean, if it was in the truck, in the parking lot, there’s no video, maybe it’s a shitty, shitty little, little motel or something, he trying to like stay lowkey, maybe like a hooker in there or something, was like trying to try to st off the grid.
So Barnett, um, has been working for Boeing for 28 years, um, and he started to, got the juice, he was in the quality area, and so he started to say, hey, the quality is going down, and he started to, he become a whistleblower, you know, I know that word is a little weird, yeah, um, but He started to express concern, and yeah, it’s someone on the inside who’s like, hey, like, and he’s probably went to his superiors, and they’re like, shut the [bleep] up, John. And then he was like, well, I gotta tell, I got to tell somebody. Yeah, so um, I wanted to go over the history of those flights, Boeing, totally, that sort of thing, so that way now we know everything leading up to it, and then on the next episode, we’re going to go into the life of John Bernett.
And there’s, weird thing, sorry, just real quick, there there actually are like whistleblower laws now to protect whistleblowers. Yeah, from like, like, what, what, from persecution, like a lot of the whistleblowers, they can’t be like, uh, terminated from their positions, like, like they can’t be like, pretty much put, I’m a whistleblower, keep working there, like, you’d be miserable, I would never want to work, no, hell no. But if, but know, what if you’re like, ham, you work there for 30 something years, and like, my P, I get my pension in like one, six months, like, I’m just, I’m, I’m trying to do the right thing, I’m still trying to get paid, like, especially cu his job.
Oh, he got, he got [bleep], what’s crazy too is it’s, is his job is to do that, like, he’s the Quality Inspector, so like, his job is his credibility, yeah, so it’s just kind of confusing why he not contin to do well. I, I don’t know, you know what I mean, it’s because he was giving the answers they didn’t want. Exactly, oh, for sure, that’s what it sounds like. Oh, no, they were probably like, listen, John, just look, we’ll make it worth your while. No, you know, what do you think, what do you, he like, they like, what do you care about a couple Indonesians, you know, going out, and come on, John, Johnny boy, he’s like, my wife’s Indonesian, bro, and they’re like, [bleep] terminate them, terminate.
So, uh, next episode, we are going to go over the life and what happened with John Barnett, all the way leading up to his death, including some more details about his death. Yes, um, also there’s, uh, Joshua, uh, Joshua Dean, uh, recently, within the last month, like literally, uh, died in under mysterious, like a staff infection. Yeah, he was also a whistleblower for Spirit, which was a supplier of Boeing. I’m sorry, but like, no one has died from the staff infection in the last 70 years, I’m promised. I don’t know, the whistleblower died of disent, trail, like Ebola, Christ. Uh, so that’s what we got tonight, guys, thanks a bunch, uh, hope you enjoyed the show, and uh, we’ll catch you next time on the Conspiracy Podcast.
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