Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. My name is Eric. Jorge here. Sean. Hope you guys are doing good. We got another episode about the goddamn Epstein thing. I know, it’s like it never ends. What does this compare to? This is like a scandal of the century. This is like when you were around for Watergate and you’re like, oh my god. Or the Lewinsky thing. Yeah, for sure, 100%.

But as we do, let’s do some shout outs. The first thing, I want to shout out a couple of converts. Converts are when they convert, you know, they’re on that low-level pleb plan and they upgrade to the elite tier. So quick, Tom P. This guy did a yearly rich guy. First of all, strong name. Secondly, tell us your episode. We will do your episode. Thank you so much, man. That’s seriously huge.

And then another convert to a yearly rich guy, Heather C, a picture with your beautiful daughter. You’re a legend. Tell us your episode. So there’s the rich person status on our Patreon and as part of that perk, you get to select a topic that we do in the future. And we have not failed. We still have a couple in the hopper. Then a couple others. We got Patrick B with a yearly conspirator level, which is our five dollar level. We got Tammy W with a founding crew. We got Sergio with a yearly founding crew. Jill D with a yearly founding crew. And then we got Rob P with the conspirators. Our little clan is getting huge. Get in the Discord, guys. We want to talk to you. Discord’s popping off. It’s really a fun community.

So if you haven’t, a couple things. Last week we released an Epstein update, and maybe a year and a half ago we did a full scale, it was like a three episode series. So my suggestion is you start there and you get through that four hour whole story, and then you listen to last week’s, which is the Epstein files. And then we’re going over now everything related to the pizza situation. We wanted to do one because we were looking into it and there was all these pizza references, and we’re like, how does this tie in with John Podesta and the Pizzagate cycle. We did a Pizzagate episode but at that time there wasn’t really a lot of information, so I was kind of limited. But now with this, everything kind of comes together.

So pretty much Pizzagate is a 2016 viral conspiracy. It claimed that the Democratic elites like Hillary Clinton and John Podesta ran a child trafficking ring out of a place called Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria in DC. And they used pizza as a code for abuse. And so supposedly it was debunked. Obviously there wasn’t a lot of information when we had it, but you fast forward to now and we have all this pizza overload in these files. It’s like, okay, it checks out. We’ve pretty much proved that some shit’s going down. But again, court of public opinion, it’s all circumstantial. I hope they are doing their investigations and something’s going to come out of this, but very little hope.

And so I did want to do a quick disclaimer. Look, we’re obviously just reading emails without a lot of context. These are very serious allegations involved, and this is pure speculation. And it’s also redacted, segmented type information. So we’re not going to have the full story. I just want you guys to know, we’re going to go over it, but you need to decide what you think about this. This isn’t like the court of law. This is the court of podcast. Court of public opinion.

Let’s start from the top. How many times do you think pizza is mentioned in the Epstein files release? It’s a big file release. There’s 3.5 million pages released. A lot of it is just memos. It’s not all emails. Some of it’s actually FBI documents and people getting tips and writing down the tip that they get. But according to multiple analyses of all these documents, which happened in late January when they were released, they said it appears about 859 times. Some sources say it’s more around 900, even 911 times. But let’s say 860 times. First of all, I don’t think I’ve ever even said the word pizza 860 times in my life. Also in an email. Who’s emailing this?

So you take your work email. How many times, if you said, Eric, take over my email, how many times would I find the word pizza? Zero. Only in my personal Gmail there’ll be receipts from like Jets Pizza, but it won’t be me typing it, it’ll be a receipt. I have never typed the word pizza in a professional email ever. I do have some pizza in here, but, you know, we got a pizza party, free pizza, blah blah blah. A lot of mine is either spam or just internal, we’re having a pizza party. Sure, there’s probably out of 900 some benign stuff. But we’re also not billionaires. If I was a billionaire, I’d probably eat pizza once a year. I’d be eating way better food. So these are spread across emails, texts, notes, all that stuff. But realistically, could all of these elite, rich, powerful world shakers really just like pizza? The sultan ordering a pizza through email, come on. Or is it code? That’s the question.

So I did want to go over some of the notable figures that we know of. Granted, there’s not a lot because it’s all redacted. So it doesn’t specifically drop A-listers. But did you see this week that Massie and some other congressmen, Ro Khanna, they’re starting to get the unredacted files and they’re starting to name out names. There’s no reason they should be redacted. They’re not victims. The pressure is building. Good. You know what’s weird too is that if you remember when we did the Pizzagate episode like two or three years ago, it was very much built as an almost hilarious conspiracy. Like we’re so crazy, a fringe conspiracy theorist, who could ever believe that. Because at that time it was also mixed in with the whole QAnon thing, and they’re anonymous, so there’s nothing concrete there, and that pizza parlor in DC.

Roy and Stephanie Hodges worked as managers for Little St. James, Epstein’s island. So they emailed Epstein in 2013 thanking him for providing pizza to the crew during an outing. So it’s innocent enough, kind of legit. Other of the redacted people, they drop lines that sound so weird. I used 50 because there’s so many. And just so everyone knows, this stuff is redacted and weird. These ones I’m taking are from 2010 to 2018. So after the conviction, which was 2008. Correct.

So the first one is from Roy and Stephanie Hodges to Epstein in 2013. I wanted to let you know the crew really appreciated the pizza today. Thank you for letting us do that. But doesn’t that sound, thank you for letting us do that, like letting us host. Pull it back from the context of, you own a private island. Are you really going to, oh, you let us have a pizza party, thank you for letting us. The best you could do is some cheese pizzas, Domino’s delivered to the island. It sounds weird. It does sound back to what we had talked about, which is like, they’re propitiative, like, yes my lord, thank you lord, you’re so smart and wise. Anyway, that one’s still okay, I can get around that.

So the next one is from a redacted sender to Epstein. This is better than a Chinese cookie. See attached. Let’s go for pizza and grape soda again. No one else can understand. What the hell. That’s weird. No one else can understand. What’s the grape soda reference? The grape soda gets referenced in here a lot. We could do an episode on grape soda. This is better than a Chinese cookie, see attached. What is the attachment? I hate that because you know somebody’s seen that attachment. Let’s just say it’s a pornographic photo. So why didn’t the authorities go, okay, this is pretty obvious. And then the speculation goes, oh, they’ll redact the names because they’re part of an ongoing investigation. I’m like, how long do they need? How long is this investigation going to go on for? It’s definitely code. No one communicates like this.

It kind of reminds me of, I have a family member that works with Border Patrol or Homeland Security, and he monitors a lot of the conversations going on with the cartels back from Mexico to here, and they’re listening to everything. They talk in code because they know that they’re listening. And just another point Jorge is making, when I first moved here I was working at this restaurant, and one of the regulars who became friends with me and all the staff, he’s a high ranking colonel and he worked in intelligence and he got shitfaced. And he literally told us, he’s like, you think we don’t know? Dude, we know where they all are. All these people, oh, the most one of us, we’re just watching them. That’s all I do all day. They’re just waiting because they want the network, they want everybody. So to think that we don’t know, they know what’s going on. The FBI knows. This is what’s also so enraging. They knew and they know. And still nothing.

Next one, redacted exchange. Yeah, that’s the pizza. In response to a message about radiating a soft glow. So the person’s like, oh, something about radiating a soft glow, yeah that’s the pizza. No one in the history of mankind thought that eating a pizza did anything but make you fat. Radiating a soft glow, get out of here. These things are so out of context, I don’t even know what’s happening. But how in context can you be when you’re talking about pizza? There’s only one real context, which is eating pizza. So this soft glow. Now I’m starting to think if this is drugs, maybe that’s possible. Or what if it’s like boomer talk? It’s not. My grandma is 90 and she doesn’t talk like that. This is so easy, common sense.

All right, this next one is Epstein to redacted. There are millions of babies, very little good vegetable cream cheese. And the context is seemingly tied to a pizza discussion. What does that even mean? Because remember there’s also a whole thing of sacrificing, and that’s where it gets dark, and that’s where it ties in like this whole, when Pizzagate first came out they were like, it’s adrenochrome and all this stuff. What is adrenochrome? Certain things are released in your body when you dream and certain things are released when you have endorphins when you work out. They think that if you extract something like that, you can have some sort of benefits, you can live forever. Adrenochrome is a biomolecule produced in the body by the oxidation of the hormone adrenaline.

So next one is redacted to Epstein. What time do you want to get pizza and grape soda tomorrow? See, this grape soda keeps coming up. Grape soda is weird. This isn’t the trap, why are you having grape soda. I read some Reddit post that it’s a reference to black kids. They’re all code, I’m telling you. But wasn’t there a no black rule on the island? That’s why in none of the photos there’s not one black person. I have not heard any of that. I don’t think these guys are picking and choosing, I think they’re just taking whatever they’re getting.

Next one is redacted to redacted group text. Your pizza is yummy yummy, all caps, double exclamation. You’re not emailing that, you’re not group texting that. I expect you to fight me if I say your pizza’s yummy. So play out a scenario. Us three are going out, and Jorge’s late, and we order food ahead of time. Jorge, what do you want? Pizza. Okay. And then it gets there and we’re still waiting for him and we say your pizza’s yummy yummy. No, I would never. I’ve had good pizza, but I’ve never had pizza so good that I’m like, oh my god, I need to group text this.

Redacted email, headcount for pizza, let me know how many. Okay, that one I’m going to let slide. Redacted to Epstein, who wants pizza in Austin? Oh, you’re flying to Austin for a business trip, better have the pizza. What elite level businessman is living off pizza? Pizza provides virtually no nutrition, it’s just melted cheese and bread. So then Aaron Coy message to Epstein. I don’t know why Aaron Coy is not redacted like everyone else, and we don’t really know who she is. Pizza delivery confirmed for the island, extra cheese. First of all, how do you deliver pizza to an island? That pizza’s going to be cold as hell, it’s covered in salt water. You’re a billionaire, have your chef make the pizza. Is this Aaron person maybe an assistant on the island? No one knows. I cannot find any information on who this person is.

So then we have redacted exchange. Slicing pizza for the party tonight, need more toppings? First of all, if you slice pizza, it’s already topped. You make pizza with the toppings already on it. Why would they redact the caterer? But that’s not necessarily good because everything’s redacted, even people that aren’t. The redaction’s confusing. It makes it insidious, it makes them seem sketch. All right, so we got a redacted sender. The pizza monster is back, gained five pounds from last night’s feast. What does that even mean? Maybe it’s an inside joke. But what kind of joke is it, it only is bad. This guy was renowned for having these insane crazy parties. You have the most influential people in the world and you’re having a pizza party for them. This is a Chuck E Cheese. You’re having the sultan over, let me get you a pizza.

Epstein to redacted, order gluten-free pizza for the guests. Okay, that’s a totally legit text. I have homies that are gluten-free, that makes total sense. It’s almost like a really lazy orgy party, just get pizzas, screw it. I don’t have time to get the chef here, they’re getting pizzas. All right, we got redacted group, pizza and grape soda, same as last time, no one else gets it. That one’s weird. Same as last time. Also the grape soda thing, there’s no reason to keep saying grape soda, and there’s no reason to keep having pizzas. No one eats pizza this much.

This next one is okay, redacted email, your pizza is yummy, thanks for sharing. Who do you email a homie, your pizza’s yummy, thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing your twelve dollar pizza with me. You go to a full-scale billionaire’s island and you thank him for sharing pizza. This is code and this is so sketch. We need to bomb Little St. James. What did happen with that? Somebody else bought it, I think it was a private equity firm, and it was before things got really pressurized. And now they’re like, this is the worst investment we’ve ever made, no one’s ever coming here.

Next one is redacted to Epstein, frozen pizza or fresh for the crew? Okay, I can live with that. Billionaires, but I think that’s why they put for the crew, like he knew it’s for the crew, it’s not for the homies, it’s for the crew. So now let’s just say we’re halfway through this, we’ve gone through 15. I have 50. But what is it then, is it girls? I think it could be girls obviously, he was trafficking. It’s definitely a trafficker code. It’s how you’re classifying. And I think grape soda is another code for a different type of girl, maybe a black girl. And when they get into the toppings, the toppings probably make it like, oh I want whatever racial connotation, like soy sauce on my pizza. Or maybe it’s age. Or if you want pepperoni, maybe that’s a boy. But this is just too much.

Next one is another benign one. Aaron Coy to Epstein, pizza headcount, 12 people including extras. But you think, a pizza headcount? This isn’t a 12-year-old’s birthday party. I wish we could find out who this Aaron girl is. If someone knows, please write in the comments. Next one, redacted. Let’s go for pizza and grape soda again. Better than cookies. What is cookies? That has to be some sort of racial thing. Maybe cookies are brown, maybe cookies are Spanish. Or age. Maybe cookies is like a normal age hooker, and they’re like, oh, it’s better than that. What is the grape soda though. Or maybe grape soda is code for this adrenochrome stuff, it’s liquid. Like I said, this is all pure speculation, I haven’t cracked the code. And I think if we did, we would just murder all these people.

Another one, redacted exchange, radiating soft glow, yeah that’s the pizza effect. And that’s a second reference to the soft glow. This makes me think that this is more sinister than just kids, which is obviously the top tier. So the glow sounds like drugs. And that makes me think, okay, if we’re tying into this, maybe they’re doing this weird sacrificial psycho stuff. What drug would make you radiate a soft glow? No drug that I’ve taken, and I’ve taken almost every drug known. There was no radiation. So if you’re doing something you’re radiating a soft glow, are you putting something on your skin, are you ingesting something that makes you look like you’re glowing, like, oh you’re radiant.

It’s frustrating. I know we’re laughing, or I don’t want to say laughing, we’re not laughing at the situation, the situation is so sad, but it’s so obvious that something’s going on. You can’t just be like, oh you see this email, oh attack, because it’s in code, it’s in code on purpose. We need to know who the people that are involved are, so we know not to associate ourselves with them. So next one we have redacted, Chinese cookie alternative, pizza time. Back to this cookie thing. Chinese is just a reference to the Chinese cookie, and again back to it’s a racial thing. Cookie is like a fortune cookie so it’s Chinese. But did he tell people there’s a manual of code? I guarantee what he would do is, he’d get you there, and then you get involved, and then he’s like, okay, this is how you have to communicate. And I’ve got you on camera so you’re already in. He would say anything in writing, if you want to ask, this is how you ask, if not, you’re not involved. And if you don’t follow these rules, I’ll release the tapes.

Next is Epstein to redacted, a draft email, so not even a full send. Millions of options, but pizza with cream cheese. So what is cream cheese? Maybe cream cheese is the finishing. What would the cream cheese be? Think of what that would be. They’re into a thing. Or maybe the cream cheese is like a certain thing you’re allowed to do, maybe it’s ecstasy. Remember we talked about the sultan and how apparently they sent that torture video. So maybe it’s something like that, a certain code means, oh yeah, if you want to do some psycho stuff. Or you can finish in her. That makes sense, pretty dark. Pizza ties to the fun explicitly. I’ve been to lots of kids parties, the pizza doesn’t make it fun, it’s a small reprieve and I feel like crap afterwards.

If I’m putting together a kids party and then I text you guys and say those words, pizza ties to the fun, I’d be like, Jorge, my daughter’s sick, we can’t show up. I might call your wife, be like, something’s going on, Eric’s having a midlife crisis right now. I might call the FBI. Or it would be something you would reply a K. Or just I wouldn’t reply, there’d just be no reply. And also if you’re going to an adult party and they had pizza, me and my wife are talking on the car ride back, like these bums just had all these adult humans over and just a pizza. If you were a billionaire and you got me, your chef, I would be so pissed. Literally get there and you got pizza. Even us poor folk, if Sean ever invited me over, it’s generally a steak night. I bought ribeyes. Granted, I bought his kids hamburgers, but I’m not a rich man. You’re not going to spend 30 bucks on a 12-year-old, especially when it’s not yours.

All right, so next is redacted, who’s in Austin for pizza party? You’re adults. You’re probably in your 50s and you’re like, who’s in for a pizza party? Next one, redacted, yummy yummy pizza, repeat order. Get out of here. You’re so lazy that you’re just like, give me the usual. Is this Aaron Coy again, island pizza delivery, grape soda included. It has to either be some drugs or some type of girl. It’s also, my concern, and I’m playing devil’s advocate, don’t email me, it doesn’t necessarily also mean that it’s underage. So let’s just say all three of us were swingers, and we’re extremely wealthy, and there’s a code. First of all, Eric would be like, where the hookers. Eric’s like, just big titties, be very direct. I don’t want pizza, I want the steaks and titties. Who’s calling the hookers, me or you? I’m reaching, I’m reaching.

I see what you’re saying, it’s not illegal, meaning maybe the code is just like, oh I don’t want to be emailing that I want to get prostitutes. But also he mentioned the underage thing, so maybe they’re underage and maybe this is the problem with Bondi and Cash Patel. All of this is what they had, this is all they had, circumstantial. It doesn’t necessarily mean underage, but they made it seem like they had a smoking gun. They messed up so hard on the presentation. That was the worst possible thing. But regardless of this being underage or not, this is still sex trafficking. If you’re trafficking women regardless of age it’s still a crime. So at the least, prostitution across lines, transporting and soliciting prostitution, and realistically for financial gain. It’s way worse when it’s underage but regardless it’s sex trafficking. He’s like a glorified pimp. A very high-level pimp. You’re getting people to these orgy parties, you’re getting dirt on them and then you’re just extorting them. And then they like it, they keep doing repeat orders.

And again, we went over in the last episode the video. What video, where’s the video? They destroyed it. Dude, the next one is so bad. Redacted, no one understands our pizza code. Are you kidding me? That’s it, no one understands our pizza code, that is the communication. If I was Bondi or Patel, that’s the one I’d go after. Who sent it, what’s their IP address, find it, who was it to, who was it from. And why is that redacted? There’s no reason for that to be redacted. I guarantee you you get 12 random people, normal everyday people, you read them that email and that person is guilty. This was February 12th, 2014, no one understands our pizza code. Just nuke that. Interagency, crack it. Guantanamo Bay, waterboard this guy. Within the law. He’s a terrorist.

What jurisdiction is the island? British Virgin Islands maybe, I don’t know, meaning it’s not America. Has it ever stopped us before? We went into Venezuela and took the president. I’m just wondering jurisdiction-wise. I would assume the other governments would be all on board. And by the way, it didn’t all happen only on the island. You also had Manhattan, and the place in New Mexico, and Austin. So okay, next one, redacted, better than last time’s Chinese, pizza wins. This is so off. You know what’s strange too, going through this, I’m getting more and more depressed. The high names aren’t bringing me up. It’s getting worse.

The next one keeps popping up. Redacted exchange, glow from the pizza, perfect. The glow thing. Get out of here. I’m kind of mad that everything’s redacted. Why did they release anything without telling us who. You know what it is, under the guise of protecting victims. So the victim that said the glow from the pizza is perfect, I’m a victim. It’s either you protect the victims or you’re under active investigation. But everybody is under active investigation, that’s the whole point of this thing. At this point, they’re dumping all the files because they don’t know what to do. They’re trying to make us happy so we don’t revolt.

Then we got Hodges to Epstein, thanks for crew pizza, hit the spot. What is he feeding his poor laborers, all they’re eating is pizza. Again, redacted, grape soda and pizza tomorrow. These guys are so brazen. Wouldn’t you be a little more intelligent, criminal? They’re always going to leave clues, but also this is code. It’s circumstantial, there’s no way to prove it unless you have actual tangible evidence, video or something. So then Epstein, vegetable cream cheese on pizza, limited supply. He’s joking. Limited supply. It’s like he’s on an auction site. I don’t even want to guess what vegetable cream cheese is, let’s not go there.

Redacted group, headcount pizza for 15. Fine, whatever. Redacted, Austin pizza volunteers. Who wants to volunteer as pizza, volunteers, tribute. I wonder if Austin is also another code word, not necessarily a city. Maybe it’s one of his penthouses. Aaron Coy, extra cheese pizza confirmed. Why do you got to confirm it, just order it. Redacted, slicing up the pizza now. Why is that redacted? But oh no, oh that’s so gross. If they’re doing like this weird sacrificial stuff, slicing up the pizza. I got to 35, I didn’t even think about it, because there was another one that was like slicing the pizza, more toppings. People are super sketch. When you’re super rich and elite and like, oh I want to be immortal, people do weird stuff. So either some sort of ritual sacrifice, cannibalism, or they’re trying to extract the blood to try to get the adrenochrome. Or the pizza’s arrived and they’re slicing it up. Hopefully that.

The thing is, we have to be able to confront the fact that as a whole the human race is great, we care about each other, we want each other to do good. But there’s a small percentage of people that are the worst possible beings in the universe. They don’t care about who they hurt. It’s all about self-interest and self-preservation. Look throughout history. It doesn’t mean that mankind as a whole is bad, it just means that certain individuals get into power and they do psycho stuff. And then there’s a spiral of pleasure. When you have unlimited money, what’s the next thing you can do, the next high. Oh I can do anything, I got to ramp it up. And it could be drugs or sexual deviant stuff and you go down that path.

But I’ll tell you another thing, have you seen Sean Ryan interviewing Tim Tebow? He’s all about trying to combat the trafficking of children. God bless that guy. I have infinity amounts of respect for him. The stuff that he has to confront on a daily basis, it’s heartbreaking. And the stuff that they find, it’ll make you so upset about humanity. It’s hard to even hear someone say it, and I’m not going to say it on this because it’s the worst of the worst, the worst possible thing you could ever imagine. And it’s online and they find people that have these videos. So there are people that are that dark. They’re finding them and catching them, and he’s assisting the authorities to try to stop these people. The US is one of the top consumers of this kind of stuff.

I follow another guy, Tim Ballard. They made that movie about him, Sound of Freedom, with Jim Caviezel. The whole thing that he started is called Operation Underground Railroad. He’s another one doing God’s work, going after these guys, the worst of the worst internationally too. He used to work for the FBI but he quit because they weren’t doing anything, all the red tape. They’re like, we can’t take the kids because we’re trying to get the bigger fish. It’s always trying to get more. And especially things like this where they go international, somewhere they’re not going to get prosecuted and they’re getting protected by the local government. They’re on the take, they’re all getting paid.

My point is, I know it sucks to go to the dark side, but the fact is the dark side’s happening. And unless we can confront that it is happening, how are we supposed to stop it. If you don’t believe it, it’s real. And we need to step up as a whole and stop this and not turn the blind eye. And I know it’s hard, we’re everyday dudes, I’m focused on my family, I’m not out there saving these kids. But at least we’re talking about it, because all we can do is try to force the powers that be to do something. I don’t have the facilities to do anything, I’m just scraping by. But if you make the voice, if you make it known, make it loud enough, that’s something. Honestly I think this whole Epstein files thing has occurred because of the outrage of the people. That’s why they released this, because they were going to get voted out of office.

Make enough noise and make it unacceptable. For example, the whole interview that Bondi did, I found that unacceptable, because it was, hey we shouldn’t focus on this and we should focus on the economy. I hate the talking points that they use, especially when it’s election season, look at gas prices. Oh cool, I save four dollars filling up my 30 gallon tank, thanks, that doesn’t make my life better. And that is what’s happening, and I’m not saying it’s the entire administration of Trump, but it is the message that’s being put on the public right now. Move on. And I hate that, I’m not moving. We’re not on that page because it’s happening. All of this is happening right now. And we need to do something about it. People need to be held accountable, they need to be called out like they have been this week. Not in real court, the court of public opinion.

The point I’m trying to make is, it’s hard to go, what can I do, as a listener or even us. If we can’t actually do anything, what we can do is be loud about it. And we can stand up and disagree. Instead of just, okay we can protest, let’s protest this. Release the names. Also the victims wanted it all to be released. It wasn’t like, oh we want to be protected and our names not out there. They were very vocal and public about it. So who are we protecting? The elites. All right, let’s continue on this show. We’re almost done. Redacted, pizza monster alert, too much indulgence. The next one is whatever, redacted, gluten-free pizza option needed, understood. Celiac disease is a real thing, I get it. Homie doesn’t want to mess his pants, got it.

Redacted, pizza and soda insider joke. There you go, unredact this. What would happen if everything was unredacted? There would be chaos. And we want it. But say you’re Bondi or Cash Patel, why is it redacted? Well, because they’re protecting him. But let’s just say they’re doing the right thing, that their intentions are well. If they’re doing the right thing, that means they’re building cases against these people. So they think if they put it out, then the case would be harder to do. What they’re doing is, they think if they put it out, people are just going to kill them and there is no case anymore, because people will take it into their own hands. It’s pretty cowardice. Or the people being prosecuted are going to erase evidence, cover their tracks.

But here’s the real thing, is everyone who’s mentioning pizza in these emails guilty? No, correct. When homie’s like, gluten-free pizza option needed, maybe this homie’s like, I just don’t want to eat gluten. And if they went to the island, it also doesn’t mean that they should be executed. We went over this when we did the first series, that I think he wanted as many people there as possible, because it gives you plausible deniability. It’s like, well I had everyone, so everyone is guilty. So I think it was on purpose, because not everyone is guilty, but I think a lot of them are, the vast majority. So what you’re saying is the DOJ doesn’t want to hurt people who didn’t do anything illegal, that’s why it’s being redacted. But I also think, why release all of this information and then keep the mystery, because then it just looks terrible. But if they kept it, then it looks bad too, so they had to, because we made a lot of noise, the public.

We need to make more noise, or at least keep it going, because we got this far. If this never gets unredacted, I think the communal faith in the government is going to go to zero on both sides of the aisle. At this point you have Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, all of them going, this isn’t right. You have Rogan going this isn’t right. It doesn’t matter where you are, this is not okay. And I get it, what they’re saying is, hey the economy is great, but that doesn’t matter, it’s irrelevant to me. What they’re trying to say is they’re not responsible for the Epstein situation. But they ran on this, one of the points, the main point was transparency. And the people that voted, they want what they voted for. Oh, we’re not responsible. You are, you’re the Department of Justice, you are inherently responsible for all the bad stuff that happens. If us as a public don’t believe in justice in America, then people stop following the rules. We’re just going to become Mexico, the cartels are going to run things, and anybody can be bought, anybody can be corrupted. We can’t let that happen.

All right, next one. Redacted, yummy pizza shared, thanks. Barf. We got redacted, frozen pizza for backups. But if it’s catering, who’s catering frozen pizza? Let’s cater some frozen pizzas. We don’t even get frozen pizza for each other here. This would make sense if it’s like Defcon 5. Jorge comes in, I’m starving, I showed up out of nowhere, he didn’t even know I was coming, maybe I have some frozen dumplings and something there. Frozen Tombstone, you ever hear that? I love Tombstone. Little Trader Joe’s dumplings. So the next one we got Aaron Coy, pizza for 10 on the yacht. Okay fine, whatever. These guys are so classless. Let’s just say it’s all above board, they’re just classless. On a yacht, pizza on a yacht, this is like Beverly Hillbillies. Even I wouldn’t do pizza on a yacht. That’s why it’s not normal.

Next one, redacted, Chinese alternative, skipped pizza again. Redacted, soft glow pizza vibe. What is with the soft glow thing? I wonder if that’s like another sort of code. I don’t even know. Then we got Hodges, which is the manager of the island. Crew pizza gratitude, repeat. Now I’m thinking the crew is like, oh thanks so much for the pizza, can we do it again. But how many times. Maybe the crew gets paid off. What a lame payoff. Or maybe the crew is in on it and they get paid off. Repeat. Redacted, understand the pizza reference, it’s a question. He’s new to the code. Epstein, cream cheese pizza rarity. First off, no sane person puts cream cheese on a pizza. It literally makes no sense. This is like hoodrat pizza, cream cheese on a pizza, get out of town.

Redacted, party pizza slicing underway. Why are you even sending that? Hypothetically I’m your boss, I’m like, yo cut the pizza up, you don’t have to tell somebody you’re cutting the pizza up. Just so you know I’m slicing the pizza. Shut up, serve it. Also, pizza’s cut up already. When have you ever gotten a pizza not sliced? Literally never, except there was one Italian joint, the guy’s like, we don’t cut this in Italian. It’s like, we don’t break pasta in Italian, we don’t cut the pizza. I’ve been to Italy, they cut the pizza. Especially if it’s delivery, they cut it. Although one example, you go to Jimmy John’s, you got to ask for a cut, they give you just like a long hoagie. But that’s not pizza. Also you’re a billionaire, get out of here, you have your own island. Also if you’re eating all this pizza, aren’t you heavy? Even the gluten-free guy is huge. I can’t do that pizza every week, two slice max. If I order some Jets pizza right now, you are having more than two, I’d smash the whole thing.

There’s only a couple more. We got redacted, Austin pizza crew assemble. Austin is not Austin, Texas, it’s got to be something different. Does he have a house in Austin, we’ll have to look that up. But if he does, why is there no New York mention or other houses? This is like Austin before it was the hottest. We have redacted group, explicit pizza fun ties. Then the final one is redacted, final pizza yummy note, end of night. Barf. Actual barf. So now, going through all of this, people were ridiculed for that conspiracy theory in the past. They were made out like they were psycho, how could you even think this, preposterous. And maybe the whole storefront thing is not real, but maybe there was a part of truth in it. Maybe they weren’t doing it at the pizza joint, but maybe that was the meeting spot, the hub of where they would then go outside to Austin and do these nefarious things. Or they just planned it accordingly and that’s the perfect gateway. So your code is all about pizza, oh you have a legit pizza spot.

So after all of this, what do you think? It’s pretty obvious. We didn’t even touch on like 10% of everything. We went through 50 and there’s almost 900. I think if you have common sense, if you’re a normal person and you even are reading this out of context, your antennas go up. There’s no way that you cannot look at this and not think this is definitely code. And then of course, yes, it is painted with the Epstein situation. But if this was emails from my neighbor, I’d be like, they’re doing some sketch stuff. Any normal person is going to look at these emails and think, this is weird, this is sketch, this is not normal, and then the next thing is you got to start thinking this is code. It’s what we always say, one time’s a coincidence, but we have 900. Maybe six of them are okay fine, whatever. But when six different people are saying the pizza glow, six or whatever the number is all referencing grape soda. There’s a couple in there that were like, hey do you know the code. They talk about the code, it’s pretty blatant. Or they don’t understand it.

And the slicing of the pizza, no one needs to know that you’re slicing the pizza. If we had a caterer and they’re like, well I’m slicing the pizza now, why are you telling me this, I don’t care. So do you think this was an established code? A hundred percent, it says it in there, they don’t know the pizza code. This goes darker than we could have imagined. And we don’t usually say this at the end where it goes, it’s darker than we imagined. We’re usually on the vanilla side of the rabbit hole. But I think it’s far worse than we think. And that’s why it hasn’t gone away. It can’t go away, we can’t let it. I think also the element of underage or kids being involved strikes a chord with every parent, and that’s a lot of us, and you’re not going to let something like that go. So I hope that we make enough noise, keep putting the pressure on and something can come out of this. And so the next step is to unredact everything. That’s the right next step. I want the next step to be, let me convict some people. But you need to know who was sending this. If we were back 500 years ago, this is Salem witch trials. We’re talking about public hangs. These people need to burn. I’m for it. No matter who it is, I don’t give a damn who it is. I don’t care what political side you’re on, I don’t care what country you run. This is probably the one thing I’d be like, guilty until proven innocent. Prove yourself innocent, then we’ll talk.

So why do you think this administration, it’s been a year? I think this circumvents administration. This has been happening for a long time. So this isn’t like, oh one administration let this nefarious stuff go down. It’s not Trump, it’s not Obama, it’s all of them, it’s everybody, it’s a collective. By definition, if you are an elected official, you are a civil servant. Your job is to serve the people that you are responsible for. So by saying, oh it’s not our responsibility, we didn’t let it happen, yes you did, you’re an elected official, you were there to serve us. That is your sole purpose. And how did you get elected, you went on that and said, okay, I’m going to do this and that.

Well, in summary, usually what we do at the end of these episodes is we go, okay what’s each opinion. Something’s going on, for sure. I don’t know exactly, I don’t want to say we know, but there’s something weird with all of that information. There’s too much for it to be like, oh we’re having a pizza. No one communicates that way. Something’s going on, it just no one does. I think that they probably will have someone or a couple people put up for this, like hang for this. But is it everybody? No. They were going to probably give us one or two. That is the playbook, they’ll give us a few, the scapegoat. And they thought it was going to be Maxwell. But she’s not talking. We did a survey on our Instagram, would you give her clemency or mercy if she named names. And everyone was like, hell no. I would, but there would have to be, she gets life instead of the death penalty. She’s not on the death penalty though. But take her to Texas, you get shot with a revolver till death.

Can we please end this episode, I don’t want to talk about this anymore. I was going to say, we still have the Clintons that are supposed to go to Congress, and we’ll see what comes out of that. We might have another episode coming, an update or a news episode on it. And I do want to do an episode on Trump in his relation to this. There was 38,000 references of him in there. It’s not all emails. This is like pure references, just like even with the pizza thing, it’s not all emails and texts, it’s references. But still 38,000 is a lot. So we want to unpack it, dive into it and go, okay, is this legitimate, what are these references referencing. And also to make it clear to everybody, I think we can all three agree, if Trump is guilty, we’re not trying to protect him or anyone else in this. If they’re involved, they’re done.

Well, there you go guys. Hope you enjoyed the episode. I know it was a bit of a heavy one, super dark, sorry. But it is what it is. We need to understand that bad people do bad things, and in order to stop them, we need to confront that it’s happening and we need to speak up about it. And the only way these things get fixed is if good people do something. That’s hopefully the moral of the story.