Nazi Stolen Treasures – EP 104
Nazi Stolen Treasures
Before Adolf Hitler became the ultimate villain of the twentieth century, he was a struggling painter who was twice rejected by the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, in 1907 and again in 1908. The guys trace how that failed artist grew into a dictator who wanted to control culture, not just territory, and who dreamed of a colossal Fuhrer Museum in Austria stocked with the greatest art on earth. To fill it, the Nazis ran a state-sponsored looting operation, the ERR, that stripped museums, banks, and Jewish homes across occupied Europe.
The numbers are staggering. Roughly 600,000 pieces of art were stolen, along with an estimated 550 tons of gold, plus bonds, jewelry, and personal valuables, adding up to a conservative 50 billion dollars in today’s money. After the war, the Allied Monuments Men, a unit of curators, historians, and older recruits, tracked down hidden vaults, including a salt mine at Merkers in Germany holding 730 bags of gold coins and about 100 tons of gold. Some of the recovered wealth was returned to national treasuries through the Tripartite Gold Commission, but much of it was looted from Holocaust victims and could never be traced back to its owners.
That leaves the legends. The guys walk through the still-missing treasures: the Amber Room, a jewel-encrusted chamber taken from Catherine Palace and last seen in Konigsberg; the rumored Nazi gold train near Walbrzych, Poland, where a heavily hyped 2015 dig turned up nothing; and Lake Toplitz in the Austrian Alps, where divers recovered crates but no gold. Woven through it all is the Nazi obsession with the occult, from Himmler’s hunt for the Holy Grail and the Spear of Destiny to Ahnenerbe expeditions searching for Atlantis. Their verdict: the mystical stuff is a desperate last gasp, but the gold and art are real, scattered across mines, Argentine safe houses, Swiss bank accounts, and the attics of ordinary families to this day.
- Hitler was rejected twice by the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, in 1907 and 1908, with examiners criticizing his weakness at drawing human figures
- The Nazis ran a state-sponsored looting arm, the ERR, aimed at filling Hitler’s planned Fuhrer Museum, stealing roughly 600,000 pieces of art and about 550 tons of gold
- The Allied Monuments Men, made up of museum curators and historians, found a salt mine at Merkers in Germany holding 730 bags of gold coins and around 100 tons of gold worth about 500 million dollars in 1945
- The Amber Room, a jewel-encrusted chamber taken from Catherine Palace in Russia, was last seen in Konigsberg and remains missing
- A rumored Nazi gold train near Walbrzych, Poland, drew a global media frenzy in 2015 when two treasure hunters claimed to find it, but excavations produced nothing
- At Lake Toplitz in the Austrian Alps, divers recovered crates reportedly dumped by SS officers, but no gold was found in the dangerous, debris-filled depths
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. Another week, another pod. I hope you guys are doing good. My name is Eric. I’m doing good. This is Jorge. We didn’t ask you, Jorge. Who said you guys? I’m Sean. What’s up? Obviously, that’s Sean. Obviously, the [bleep] who’s loud and annoying is me. Uh, just wanted to say a big shout out to our Patreons. We’ve got a lot that are new. Uh, and we really appreciate that. Uh, it keeps the show going. If you haven’t had a chance, go to patreon.com/theconspiracyodcast and support us. pay us money to do this because this [bleep] ain’t cheap. Yeah, we got one that we got to welcome back.
Took a little break, came back. Oh yeah, I know. He did keep he kept his word though. Yeah. And he’s and I feel like the way that your chat GBT sounds. I feel like that’s how Chub sounds in real life. I swear to God when you put it on earlier, I was like I I feel like that’s how he sounds. Hey, what up, bro? I I changed it. I said, “From now on, you call me bro.” That’s why it always says that. Don’t refer to me by my my slave name. I’m bro. Uh, but we are done with the pyramids. Uh, if you haven’t had a chance, go back.
We spent a lot of time on that. That was um it was much it was much better than our first go round on the pyramids, which is like 40 minutes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We really never released. We really put in like the time in it and it was all about pyramids and it was a month of pyramids and pyramids and all that sort of thing. I I super enjoyed it. Uh a lot of good feedback. But get in there, listen to it and then at the end of it comment on what team you’re on at the end. And if you comment if you vote team Eric just text me a place we’re going to meet to fight.
I mean surprisingly about almost 40% of our listeners sided with me. Okay. It’s like 34%. So it’s it’s more it’s almost 30%. They had to start this unrelated episode about pyramids so that Eric can get that little line in 40%. I know it’s like almost 40% Eric’s almost 70% didn’t vote for me. But we are moving on from the pyramids and we are doing an episode and this is an episode that I wanted to do and so uh we put this together and this is Nazi treasures gold the Nazi the Nazis. How how many how many Indiana Jones movies about the goddamn Nazi treasures? And I was a little worried because I don’t know how much we’re going to get suppressed on the whole using Nazis and that whole time we put something on social media like we always get that video taken down or flagged.
Oh my god, it’s the worst. We have two strikes on Twitter or on Tik Tok. So we got one more strike and we’re done. We got flagged for showing We got flagged for showing the gun that shot MLK. I’m like, “This is a piece of history. How is this bad?” It was like I think we’re inciting violence is what they was what they they tagged us. Yeah. And we tried to say no. So anyways, some people might be like, “Oh, what does this have to do with conspiracies?” And well, it’s a [bleep] huge conspiracy. It’s it’s pretty incredible and I just want you to listen to the story first and then make your decision at the end.
Yeah. if there is some sort of weirdness going on. Yeah. Okay. All right. We’re just going to go in. We’re going to dive deep. So, before Adolf Hitler rose to be known as the ultimate bad guy of all time, the man filled with pure hatred and evil, he was actually a struggling artist. Of course, he had grand Yeah. He had grand dreams that would eventually morph into terrifying ambitions. Born in 1889 in Austria, Hitler spent much of his early life trying and failing to become a painter. Well, welcome to the club, brother. In his not making in his youth, he was described as solitary, awkward, and obsessed with German nationalism.
But above all, as as a youth, he was obsessed with German nationalism. But in his youth, he saw himself as a artist first and then a and that’s the strange part. the Reich. That’s actually the strange part in this whole exercise is that he actually wanted to become like that’s what he wanted. He wanted to become an artist. You know, in 1907 and again in 1908, he applied to the prestigious Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna. He submitted a portfolio of architectural drawings and paintings. Both times rejected. Declined. They’re like, “This [bleep] sucks. This sucks.” Uh, examiners criticize his lack of talent for human figures.
Lack of talent just like sucks. Although acknowledging some semblance of technical skill in architectural renderings, meaning like buildings like he was like semi okay at drawing. You can do the house but like but apparently the the feedback that he got was you just are not capturing humans. Stick figures aren’t going to cut it. Yeah. Listen, house is tight. Apparently, these rejections devastated Hitler. Later in his autobiography or whatever you want to [bleep] call it, Minecom, also known as My Struggle in German, uh he Look at that. Look at him with the German. He reflected My struggle. [bleep] you. My struggle. What a douche. Okay. My struggle.
You know what’s You know what’s strange? Like a side note is I want to read it but I don’t want to read it because I feel like I feel like if I read it then I like it’s almost like you shouldn’t read it. You’re going to like you’re going to get like a different concept of him or what? You’re going to like start to feel bad for him or civilizer. I don’t know. It’s kind of like a car accident. You just go like you can’t you can’t help but look. You have to look. I want to kind of read. So you’re the reason why this [bleep] is the traffic.
I hate that. You know that [bleep] was not written by him. It was like Joseph Gobles. Oh, no. He wrote it in prison. He wrote it. He wrote it in prison. For real? Mhm. He What? What prison? I mean, we’re not doing an autobiography on No. What? What? What? When was he in prison? Oh, you don’t know about Hitler tried to do an uprising early on in his career. And it failed. Oh [bleep] I did not know that at all. And he was imprisoned for uh like terror, not terrorism, but uh traitor. But then he came back and then he came back and like took it over.
He spent about I think it was six years in prison and he wrote comp in prison. Yeah. In the late 20s and early I did not know that at all. I think he was released in 33 32. Yeah. He started the Nazi party or he didn’t start the Nazi party. He took over the Nazi. Anyways, yeah. We’re not doing the autobiography on Hitler. God damn it. I mean [bleep] I’m interested now. Like you got me dialed in. So in mine comp he reflected bitterly on the failures of becoming an artist and it cemented many of his resentments against the old school way of doing things in Germany and Jewish people who were high up in Oh so like they were like his art school professors.
That’s why that’s what started the hate. The artistic elite in Vienna were Jewish. Oh, so this is where it all it all it all stems from. It’s all strange actually. Like it’s almost like a I don’t know. Yeah, it was like nothing against like their beliefs. It was just like those [bleep] art teachers. I’ll show you. So later on later on he would end up saying that his failures as becoming an artist was because of the Jewish culture. Oh wow. Or it couldn’t be because he just sucked at art. I mean I mean I know right. Clearly that’s not the answer. During his years in Vienna, Hitler lived in poverty, spending time sketching city scenes, selling postcards.
You know, he was, you know, he was a starving artist and he essentially that’s when he began forming the uh the Nazi dogma and the that whole sort of thing. He started to then immerse himself instead of the art, he started immersing himself in anti-semitic pamphlets, uh, nationalism in Germany, etc. Right? So in 33 he rose to power. His obsession with art never left him. Now you’re probably wondering why the hell is Eric talking about this the Nazi treasures because he became obsessed with art and that’s like collecting and like buying there’s actually a funny a funny thing. It’s have you seen the there was an it’s a show adaptation of the movie The Gentleman.
So they they made a show on Netflix. Actually a great show and like one of the dudes cuz it’s the same concept. Have you seen the movie The Gentleman? The Guy Britty movie? I think we have. Yeah, I think I have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I have. No. So, it’s it’s it’s really solid. And so, he pretty much is like funding his entire drug ring is like underneath all like these nobles in England’s properties. So, in the show when they do the show adaptation, one of the English nobles, he’s like a closet like Nazi. Like all of his like famous treasures are like literally like Hitler’s paintings.
So, it was like ridiculous. I’m like, what the [bleep] I mean, it’s not that far away from the truth. That’s what I’m saying. That’s why it’s interesting that you’re bringing it up. So, unlike many other dictators who focused solely on military might and control, Hitler also wanted to control culture. So, this is literally he did this all as like a I don’t want to say this is the only reason. It seems like a pretty big one. I’m just saying there’s a lot of I will control the [bleep] art. I will decline you. I will say they want to say nice. There’s actually this is actually true and they found it.
So one of Hitler’s grandest visions and this is true because they found the model and they they have witnesses of this. He had a vision of creating something called the Furer Museum. God the the amount of [bleep] conceit in making the Furer Museum. It was a colossal museum to be built in Austria which in his hometown in Austria. This museum was to be the greatest art collection of the world, showcasing the pinnacle of Aryan artistic achievements while erasing degenerate Jewish achievements. God, he’s like, man, that scarred him. Wow. Hitler saw himself as a cultural architect of the Nazi Empire, shaping the future through the curated lens of art.
So as his power grew, his artistic ambition fueled the Nazi machine where he had an entire division dedicated to stealing art and treasure. Oh [bleep] Interesting, huh? This obsession laid the foundation for one of the most systemic and colossal thefts of art, gold, and culture in the history of mankind. The numbers are going to blow you away. Give me these numbers. Yes. As the Nazis marched across Europe, they left more than destruction in their wake. Their armies were accompanied by art experts, dealers, and agents who were like little side agents like in their little crew. They come in and like pick up the pieces like, “Ooh, this is a good piece.” That’s right.
Yeah. Uh the agents worked under direct orders to loot the continent’s greatest treasures. from the Louvre in Paris to private Jewish collections in Vienna, the Nazis amass vast quantities of artwork, religious artifacts, books, and jewelries. So basically what they would do, and this is insanity, so they would slowly remove Jewish people from their homes. Mhm. So first they said, “You cannot have a business.” Mhm. So say you’re a Jewish person and you have a a business, I don’t know, you’re a shopkeeper, you say you can’t own businesses anymore. And then they would pass a law and it would be like you can’t work for somebody who’s Jewish and then they would keep they keep losing the rights.
Yeah. That’s it’s a it’s a slow it’s like a slow erosion of of That’s right. that that was always my fear with like you know with how things were going here. It’s like, you know, you can’t say things, right? And then, you know, it’s like, you can’t you can’t do this. And then it’s like, oh [bleep] you can’t even think bad things or someone like, you know, the Spetnas are going to show up and [bleep] stomp your [bleep] door down. Exactly. And so it was this slow evolution of then all of a sudden they would be like, “Okay, we’re going to move into Poland now.
We need your house for a a Nazi captain.” It’s like manifest destiny. So they would take your house and be like, “Hey, you got to go to a camp.” So you’re removed. You go to a camp. They go into your house and you have a nice house. You’re a successful Jewish person. And they would take everything out of that house. I can say to my new Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, “Hey, find a keto friendly restaurant nearby and text it to Beth and Steve.” And it does without me lifting a finger so I can get in more squats anywhere I can. One, two, three. Um, will that be cash or credit?
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Intro rate for 3 months only, then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra. See full terms at mintmobile.com. Say you had all your say you had like a semi nice painting that you bought. You’re like, “Yeah, this is [bleep] tight.” Done. Take. So, but they were going after only Jewish art and for the most part, but then they would then they they they moved into France and they moved into Paris and then all of a sudden the museums are open and then they’re taking they’re taking [bleep] every everything like Michelangelo’s uh statues and you know things like that. So over about three or four years they just started accumulating priceless things.
I mean, you can even put No, there’s no monetary. Yeah, it’s like Yeah. Uh, they even created something, and I’m going to butcher this and I hope I do. Okay. It’s called the It Stab Rights Leto Rosenberg, and it’s the EER or E R and it was a a Nazi organization, and they were in charge of stealing [bleep] They were just in charge of stealing it up. It wasn’t random pillaging. It was a state sponsored theft. So it’s like like like reverse doge. But all in all, it was the plan to fill the Furer Museum. Wow. Right. Because he was like, “Oh, it’s going to be the best.
It’s going to have it’s going to have uh you know, this is like it’s going to have Da Vinci’s paintings and it’s going to have everything. All the best. It probably started with that greed, but then it probably just kept on going to, you know, hatred of Oh, for sure. And it probably and then it’s just so like and then it’s just like [bleep] it [bleep] did to me. Oh my god. It’s like man, imagine you give like a a kid who’s getting bullied and then you’re like, here’s a like here’s the most devastating and advanced military in the world. Yeah. So, there’s a couple things.
[bleep] these guys. I’m going to [bleep] take it all. I’m going to go over some of these numbers and they’re going to [bleep] blow your mind actually. Okay. 600,000 pieces of art. Holy [bleep] Damn. Stolen, transported, estimates around $10 billion. Well, it’s got even more than that. Back then or now? I mean, how do you put how do you back then money? No, I mean now like like like altered for inflation, but but how do you put a price tag on the Mona Lisa? Don’t you can’t. I mean, so they’re estimating. Yeah. Dragon. Yeah. I mean, we’re talking Da Vinci, Rembrandt, Mones, Picassos, Van Goes, all of these things taken from museums and Jewish people’s homes and just put on trucks.
Just like on the train. Put on the train. Okay. Then back then also, it’s not like you had [bleep] Bitcoin. Yeah. Right. So, what did you have in your safe? Gold. Yeah. Gold. Gold. silver, you know. Yeah. So, estimated 550 tons of gold stolen. Whoa. God. Now, this is not just like some conspiracy theory of like maybe it was stolen. This is stolen legit. Yeah. This is actual stolen gold taken. Yeah. In the value of that at that time was $600 million. Today, it’s 30 billion. Okay. I mean this is in Belgium, Netherlands, France, Austria. These are from banks. I mean if you take over a a city, you also there’s a bank.
Yeah. Open up the vault. There’s a bank there. There’s a dude with an MP40 in your face like open the vault. Yeah. And then it gets it gets even darker because you’re taking, you know, you’re taking you’re taking jewelry, you’re taking you’re taking what’s in fillings from home. Yeah. Open up your mouth. So they got homes, they got banks, they got museums, they got all of the things. It’s the It’s the biggest pillillage like pirate life that ever. It’s like the Vikings on crack. Yes. Exactly. Uh and then and and you know, we don’t have to get into the full darkness of it, but you also had people in concentration camps removing the teeth, removing the gold teeth, removing the rings, uh removing the jewelry, all that sort of thing.
So um there’s it’s also estimated that in in uh bonds and in bank assets another five billion so this is these are actual bonds on paper you know of each country having their own bonds. Yeah. Uh the jewelry stones personal valuables etc. It’s estimated at 2 to 5 billion were stolen. That’s insane man. Just [bleep] crazy. Overall, I tried to figure this out. Try to do a little math, a little math. 50 billion dollars stolen. That’s not even what you’re producing like from your own GDP. It’s like that’s just like stolen goods. And these are conservative numbers. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Okay. So, then uh the the Allied forces began to push back uh on Nazi Germany.
And we’re doing like a fast forward to the final years of World War II. You know, we’re not going to do a No, this isn’t a whole Wouldn’t that be great if I would love to do like a full just story. Yeah. Anyways, it’s so interesting. It’s like it’s such a fascinating period of time. It’s it’s a shitty period of time, but it’s also like we can’t forget we can’t forget about it, you know, and like I don’t want I feel like it’s not even getting taught that much. Like, you know, you get like a little fat, you get this type of education, fast forward, Hitler bad.
Yes, we all know. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but I like we we should, you know, it’s it’s important to know history. Absolutely. Um, have you heard of the Monuments Men? Yeah. Yeah. Monument. They even made a they made a movie about it. They made a movie about it. Uh, it’s called The Monuments Men and it was based on a true story and well, the movie is not super great. you know, but the story is true and um and it’s basically a team was formed by the Allies and their job was to track, locate, and rescue stolen treasures. Okay. These were not the fittest individuals. These were us.
So, not like you not like deep V. Yeah. They weren’t cut. They weren’t thick. They weren’t super They weren’t thick. Yeah. They weren’t thick. Yeah. And as Eric likes to describe him, his big his neck. Lots of people describe me as that. Lots of people. Name one person who describes you besides yourself. Like a whole platoon. A whole platoon of thick colonel thick. So the reason why I said that is because these people were composed of museum curators and artists and historians. It wasn’t like they they were the ones that didn’t get into the army because they were maybe older. They were Yeah. Or they were just they could only do one push-up.
Yeah. They were like they were like 54 years old. I want to serve my country, you know, and they were they were like librarians, good nerds, like good, you know, Yeah. They they were uh historians u etc. They risked their lives though to prevent the destruction of the artistic heritage. They found entire vaults filled with masterpieces from Michelangelo’s Madonna which is a statue paintings by Raphael Rembrandt etc. And one of the biggest discoveries that they had is there was a salt mine in Austria. They figured it out and they found that there were these caves where thousands of pieces of artwork were stored by the Nazis.
Seems like a bad place to store something. Like what’s the most corrosive thing we can think of? Salt. Hair. I mean, it might put all this [bleep] in there. [bleep] This is great. Genius. Uh, as part of it, in one of their discoveries in one salt mine in the Murkers in Germany, they found 730 bags of gold coins. Jesus Christ. You know, can you imagine being one of these to find that? You’re like, 720? There’s 700 bags. Yeah. Yeah. 700. So that’s nice. Clean number. That’s good enough. Yeah. 700 show. So, uh, they found diamonds, pearls, etc. In total, the gold recovered from the Murkers mines was 100 tons valued at valued at 500 million in 1945.
Oh my god. So, that’s seven to eight billion today. Yeah. Uh, we didn’t find anything, boys. Just put this [bleep] on the Humvees. Yeah. So, aside aside from it being an awesome story, the reason I bring this up is because remember what I had said earlier was 50 to 60 billion stolen. Yeah. Mhm. They found seven to eight. That’s pretty that’s that’s a good chunk. Now, in the in the terms of conspiracies or mysteries or whatever, they found some. Yeah. So, where’s the other 42 leads to the evidence that there it does exist? Oh, it 100% does. It does exist somewhere. You know what I mean?
Anyways, either that or deteriorating in some [bleep] Yeah. some mine underground. They took it to Argentina. Yeah. Right. Well, we’ll get into that in a little bit. Okay. So, beyond merkers, they found smaller but again significant quantities of gold and treasure etc. including uh bank vaults in Berlin, salt mines in Austria. It was primarily stolen art, but again, it also held gold, silver, gold, jewelry, etc. Um, what do they do with all that? Like, I want to know like what do they do with all the gold they fashion? We’re going to um put this on the channel. Yeah, we’re put in the evidence vault. Yeah, the vault house.
Don’t ask questions. it. If you if you wanted to dive more into this, you should cuz there’s in there’s stories within it like who kept track of it and you know logs and you know they risk their lives. Was this the was this the beginning of the this beginning of the corruption in the US government? They’re like well you know and we’ll talk about that we’ll talk about that in a little bit which is the evolution of Operation Paperclip. Oh my god [bleep] Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? Because that’s so crim. Yeah. So, um, much of the recovered gold was eventually returned to the national treasuries of each of those countries.
So, Belgium, France, and the Netherlands, they got a small percentage back. However, a portion of the gold, especially that which could not be traced because a lot of it came from Holocaust victims. Mhm. So, it becomes difficult to go where does this go back? We’ll take it. There was a commission there was a commission put together in the po postw war and it was called the tripartite gold commission and it was an attempt to redistribute looted wealth that was recovered to the victim’s nations not even to the victims to their nations I mean but it think about how how impossible of a task that would you don’t know any like I you random person I was rich 100% I was rich yeah swear I was rich you were [bleep] Oh yeah, I need 100 pounds of that gold right there.
That was all my like Oh, yep. See that marking right there? That was that was me. Yeah. So, there you go. That That’s a lot about the gold and that sort of thing. Um I wanted to kind of go into a little bit more where it could be involved in these treasures. Yeah. Like the Nazis were kind of a weird group. Um no [bleep] While the world remembers the Nazis for their military aggression and genocidal policies, lesser known about them is that their deep fascination with the occult. Dude, hell yeah. I wanted you to get into this like the and the supposed technologies and [bleep] that they had, bro.
And mysticism and ancient artifacts, etc. These were not fringe interests. They were woven into the fabric of the Third Reich, especially among high-ranking Nazi officials like Hinrich Himmler and Rosenberg and even Hitler himself. At the core of Nazi ideology was the belief in ancient superior Aryan race. Okay. Whom whom they believed were the original bearers of advanced technology. Oh, so it’s the advanced knowledge. The Anunnaki. Yeah. And mystical power. That’s true. Aryans, baby. Not. So, the Nazis sought to reclaim, they use this term reclaim where it was theirs already, and to reclaim these artifacts and esoteric knowledge that they believe would validate the myth and provide them with the weapons to win the war.
God, these guys, the [bleep] bravado on these guys. Christ. There’s a group called the Aner nearby. I can’t even say it. Let me see it. I have a kid eat it. Inner inner nini in an we sound right. We need we need Yeah. So there was a group founded by Himmler in 35 called the and it stands for the Ancestral Heritage Research and Teaching Society and it was kind of like pseudocience, archaeology, anthropology and occult studies all mixed into one and it was to research the German ancestrial heritage. But it was often pursued bizarre theories such as the Aryan nation is from Atlantis. They came and they were like, “Yes, Austria, this is where we’ll go.” So that is one theory of we’re Atlantanss.
Yes. That they are Atlantanss. Okay. I like that theory tracking. I like that they’re at least into into that kind of We’ll go into a little bit further. Uh, but one of the one of the things in the treasure hunt or whatever was the Nazis quest for the Holy Grail. And this is this is uh The Last Crusade. This is this is Indiana Jones, right? That’s my favorite one of the movies, Last Crusade. And that’s that’s perhaps the most famous artifact sought by the Nazis was the Holy Grail. The Penitent Man. The Penitent Man. And if you don’t if you don’t And if you don’t know what the Holy Grail is, the Holy Grail is a legendary cup believed to have been used by Jesus Christ at the last supper.
Yeah. I thought he drank it. And it’s said to have mystical powers, eternal youth, and or invincibility. So the Nazis were like, “How do we win this war for real? Get this magic up.” So yes, exactly. This is how we win, boys. So, so Himmler became obsessed with finding the Holy Grail. Himmler visited um a stronghold in southern France believed to be one of the hiding places of the Grail. Funded extensive research into Grail myths. Nazi agents and scholars were sent to the Pyrenees and other regions of France to search ancient castles, caves, etc. All trying to find traces of the Grail. Uh you know, I mean, we could make movies out of this.
Well, weren’t they also looking for the Ark of the Covenant like too? Yes, exactly. Some Nazi commissioned expeditions also investigated the connection between the Templars and the Grail, believing the Templars preserved the secret knowledge. And that literally is the story of Indiana Jones, which is that the Templars are protected. There was even at the end like that one was a Knight’s Templar and he’s like, “You have chosen Paul.” He’s like, he’s like, “Of course. This is so beautiful. It must be the gray. Yeah. So that is that that we have documented evidence. The carpenter seion. I could tell you wouldn’t have a golden cup. I know he was a carpenter.
Coin is simple man. Um, but we actually have evidence of Himmler with memos and stuff going, I’m on the train, finding sending people out and you know that sort of thing. So, um, though the Nazis never found the Grail, the SS under Himmler transformed the castle in Germany into a grail like shrine, intending it to serve as a spiritual center for the SS modeled on the Arththeran legends of King Arthur. Anyways, it’s you see how it’s like whoa, we’re like taking all these stories and combining them into one. And it’s it’s so funny how they were looking for the they were looking for this like holy grail, this magical thing, and they hate the Jews.
But wasn’t like Jesus the king of the Jews was born born in Bethlehem? I was like, are you really going to drink from the same cup as a Jewish man? Great point. The weird part is the logic of Nazis are not super. They’re not they don’t work out. They weren’t thinking that far past. didn’t work out. Yeah. Uh, another fascination of Hitler and Himmler is the the spear of destiny. You heard of the spear of destiny? Spear of destiny is what is supposedly the spear that when when Jesus was crucified. Yeah. There was a Roman soldier who speared him in his ribs and he bled out.
Yep. And so supposedly the spear that killed that killed Jesus. That’s right. According to medieval legend, whoever possessed the spear would be unbeatable in battle. So obviously Hitler’s like, I need that spear. Put it on top of the paner tank. And then we’re according to medieval lore, whoever possesses the spear holds the power to control the fate of the world and is unbeatable in battle. The spear was housed. We actually the spear exists. Just so you know, like this is not the holy grail. We don’t know. Holy grail is totally It’s kind of like maybe. But the spear actually is a thing. Yeah, I think he was actually dead.
The spear was housed at the Hofberg Palace in Vienna. And Hitler was reportedly obsessed with it even before World War I when Germany annexed Austria during uh in 1938. One of Hitler’s first orders was to seize the spear, transport it to Nuremberg. And whether or not Hitler truly believed in the spear’s supernatural power remains debated, but the symbolic importance was. So he actually got it. That’s right. So he like slept with it. So uh later General Patton recovered the spear. Oh, no [bleep] way. Does it still exist today? In 1945 and visited to Austria. Oh [bleep] Put this. However, there are conspiracy theories that it was swapped.
Oo. Little little switcheroo. And it’s just some [bleep] dinky spear. You know, some dude’s got he’s like, “Fuck yeah, baby.” Like the Rothschilds. Now we’re on to something. Uh and then back to the Atlantis uh conversation that we were having the Aryan Atlantan race. For the Nazis, Atlantis was not just a myth. It was believed to be history. Yeah. This was this is who we are. It was the homeland of the Aryan master race. Nazi ideologies, particularly those associated with the honor Nari that we talked about before, promoted the idea that Atlanteanss were superior. They were a superior ancient civilization andor I mean this does tie into maybe the you know the pyramids but whatever.
But they are the supposed ancestors of aryens. Okay. Okay. Yeah. cuz cuz clearly under the sea, you know, they’re all super white cuz they’re not getting a lot of sun exposure. But the theory is is that Atlanteanss had the advanced tech, the advanced knowledge and culture before it was destroyed in some sort of cataclysmic end. Yeah. This belief fit perfectly into Nazi racial theory. I love how it’s like this perfect. This is [bleep] perfect. I mean, if you think about it, they’re trying to say that they are a supreme race. And so their bloodline is connected to this [bleep] so I don’t know. It’s hard to I’m trying to like tell the story as like that view and it’s very difficult to like cuz it’s easy like if you literally just dissect a dead Nazi.
Mhm. It’s exactly the same. Yeah. Just it’s the same [bleep] So uh Himmler was the head of SS and he was the chief person behind this like thing. He was always kind of going to Hitler and being like, “Don’t worry, we’re going to find Atlantis and we’re going to find all these powerful tech and we’re going to find all this stuff. Don’t worry.” Um they believe that the traces of Atlantis could be found in Europe and North Africa. Basically anywhere that could tie Aryan myths. Uh they they literally went to Stonehenge. They went to uh in France and Spain. They went to the pyramids. They were trying to find these Atlantean descendants.
They conducted archaeological digs and expeditions to Iceland. They had they went to Did they also go to like the Antarctica? They went to the Canary Islands. Yes. Oh, that’s true. Yes, that’s right. Uh they went to the Mediterranean, etc. All to find Atlantis. They did not find Atlantis. You think like if if they were more focused just like on straight war, they probably have won. If they weren’t like if they weren’t spreading it super thin trying to find like all this [bleep] [bleep] like oh my god. In 1939 we showed documentation uh right before the war broke out that the Nazis led an expedition to find investigate mummies, artifacts, and ruins uh in Guanch Ganchi.
I I think I’m saying that wrong. Their goal was to find proof of advanced ancient civilization linked to aryens. This is like us doing the pyramids episode. I know, right? And then we go for us. This is us. I am King T. Yeah. So, this then led to further expeditions to Scandinavia, Iceland, Greenland, uh, and even the North Pole. No credible evidence shows Atlantis was found. Um well clearly they didn’t get any advanced technology after the war. Rumors and conspiracy theories abounded that Nazis discovered it and some of them hid there after the war. Oh, this never came back. Never came back. Uh they or maybe they found a big hole in the earth.
There are there’s conspiracy theories that that say they found something called the bell. Oh, I’ve heard about the bell. Yeah. Or hidden bases in Antarctica. Yeah. where the bell the bell basically is an anti-gravity machine of some kind. Yeah. Like say alien technology. Yeah. It’s called dlock. Well, supposedly there’s a picture of it, but I don’t know if that’s real or not. Yeah. So, some fringe theorists, like fringe conspiracy theorists, extra fringe. They claim that Nazis found the lost knowledge or preserved ancient tech derived from Atlantians and then just lived out their lives in that way. Dude, there’s a there’s a I don’t know how to like Yeah, there’s a cool documentary.
That’s [bleep] [bleep] There’s a That’s how you [bleep] interpret. That’s how you interpret that. The interpretation [bleep] [bleep] There’s there’s this cool documentary that I think I suggest that you both watch cuz it’s actually it’s actually a good watch. But they they do get and then like it’s like, “Wow, this is really cool.” And then it’s like ultra fringe and you’re like whoa. I’m like even me I’m like I believe everything. I’m like, I don’t know. Which one? What’s it called? So, it’s called Above Majestic. I I [bleep] saw it. You I didn’t I told you never heard of this. It’s called It’s called Above Majestic.
It starts off. It starts off solid. You’re like, “Oh, I’m all about this.” And then they get into the Nazis and they’re like, “The Nazis were using using the Ubot to like travel through space and shit.” I was like, “Okay.” Like on the far side of the moon. No, literally. Literally, like literally like I’m like, “Okay, this was legit.” And then Malice is like [bleep] you lost. I think I turned it off after that point. Honestly, that was like it was really good until you did this and you [bleep] idiots. So the uh the next some scholars and things. Wait, another one just just real quick.
Another one that uh Sean told me to watch which is actually really good is Zygeist. Zeitgeist is amazing. Oh, what a class. That’s what made me a conspiracy. You guys have to Yeah, you guys have to watch that. It’s from It’s from 2000, bro. Yeah, Zeist made me a [bleep] conspiracy. I don’t think it’s on YouTube anymore. Oh, they took so I don’t think so. No way. What a classic rumble that [bleep] Yeah, good idea. I mean, that’s literally what got me into like But they cover everything. They cover everything. Families, aliens, [bleep] Bro, how do we get like all the conspiracies into like one show?
Part two all of a sudden. They did. Yeah, I told you about that one. I I sent it to you, I think, like years ago, but we got to look for it again. I’m I’m going to watch it tonight. So some some scholars and theorists argue that Nazi interest in the occult extended into their ultimate desire which was to find wonder weapons, also known in German as the wonderwolf. The Vunder the Vunder Wunderwolf. The super weapons that would supposedly turn the tide of the war because at a certain point it’s obvious they were losing the war. Of course. It’s like you you once you like you know Germany like they only had x amount of people and once you expand out Yeah.
Like and one of the one of the lost one of the lost kind of like things in history is that like Russia obviously this was during you know Stalin and it was like the [bleep] USSR. It was like communist Russia. But then Russia joined us joined the Axis I mean sorry joined the allies. Yeah. Do you know dude the Russians lost more people than everyone combined? Totally. The Russians lost they lost the battle million people died. 30 million Russians died, bro. 30 million. That’s more than everyone else combined. Like yeah, it’s just a lot. Like most people aren’t like don’t realize that. If you uh if you have some time, go listen to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History.
Uh and he you know there’s I think he has like 15 hours on it. It’s it’s fantastic. Yeah. I mean in a in a Yeah. It’s fantastic that it’s a lot of big data. So the idea here is is that they were looking for a something instead of it being art and that sort of thing. It was like how do I have super weapons to win the war? Yeah. Yeah. We’re losing. One of one of which get some super weapons. One of which is the the Digok, which is the the bell. It’s a supposed anti-gravity device that could manipulate time or space and described as a UFO like machine built in secret underground facilities in Czechoslovakia.
Yeah. Well, clearly it didn’t work. So, fail. Yeah. The other one is a uh Thu Society, a secret secretive organization allegedly tied to the Nazi party that explored energy sources of ancient times pyramid. Okay. And they communicated still to higher beings. Help us. God damn it. Please. While of course there’s no concrete evidence of functioning. Well, of course this sounds fringe. Super fringe. So true. While no concrete evidence exists of functioning Nazi super weapons, uh it is historically verified that the Nazis pursued advanced tech known as like basic stuff which is jet aircrafts, ballistic missiles, V2 rockets, and early atomic bomb research. It’s true though.
It is like when you do think about it like their their weaponry and their their military vehicles were all far superior to to the competition. Like all their [bleep] was was way better than everyone else’s. Like their tanks were [bleep] elite. Like oh my god. Like you could not [bleep] with them. Like they [bleep] Yeah, that’s true. And so we will go into another episode. Not now, but eventually we will do Operation Paperclip. Oh my god. Oh yeah. Because operation paperclipip is where the US procured Nazi scientists about it of them after the war for the technology that they the Manhattan Project. Yeah. Literally went in the Manhattan project.
Yeah, exactly. You me a beer. Uh so we’ll get into Operation Paperclip at a different time, but essentially, you know, anyways, you guys, we’ll get into that later. Um, so the question then becomes, what is left that wasn’t found? Mhm. And or what did they find? Just 42 billion missing. Yeah, just 42 billion. What if they what if they actually found it all? And they’re like, I bet they did. They They probably found way more than that for sure. Right. There’s still There’s still missing uh Van Goes, Mon Picassos. They’re in homies basement right now. Yeah, they’re still unaccounted for. uh billions of dollars of gold, jewelry, unaccounted for.
Some salt mines uh were collapsed andor were destroyed. Oh, yeah. So, they haven’t they haven’t been fully There’s one [bleep] There’s one There’s one. There’s nothing here, boys. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here, fellas. There’s one um mystery. It’s called the Amber Room. It’s a jewel encrusted chamber from the Catherine Palace in Russia and it was stolen by the Nazis and it was last seen in modernday Kenrad before vanishing. M um so this does lead into one episode we did at the very beginning of this whole podcast that we ever did which is where they a lot I mean it’s very documented a lot of Nazis ended up in South America Argentina in Argentina.
Yeah that’s right. So some believe that there were hidden hidden trains then to planes and bunkers and that sort of thing like [bleep] That’s right. Swiss banks and South American vaults. There are accusations that there’s Argentine safe houses that hold Nazi fortunes. Oh, I dude I I [bleep] guarantee it. Of course. You think so? Well, dude, you think like look, while the Germans were [bleep] [bleep] like they were pretty slick. They were pretty slick, rig. Yeah. Like I guarantee they had contingencies on contingencies on contingencies. And obviously at the end, you know, Hitler was super [bleep] paranoid, you know, getting pumped up with [bleep] empetamines.
Like he was a paranoid [bleep] So I guarantee he had like all these like, “Okay, you know, [bleep] freaking the [bleep] out, you know, tweaking.” And he’s like, “We got to have like [bleep] escape plans. We got to have, okay, you have the boats ready to go.” And dude, yeah, he was like on a different vibe. You can imagine. Yeah. There’s even a story of this guy named Cornelius Gerlet and he was the son of a Nazi art dealer and it was discovered that in his home there were 1,500 stolen works of art. Holy [bleep] So like the the point of that story is going that he’s one dude and that was in the early 2000s.
Oh wow. Wow. He was trying to like slide those in the black market like So like just the point is is that somebody [bleep] just was like I’m not going to say anything and they’re in my house. Oh yeah, dude. For sure. Even if it’s your grandpa’s. Yeah. Well, you also attic. What do you do? [bleep] And you have a Picasso in your attic. You can’t like call the authorities. Yeah. So, here here are just a few theories uh of, you know, some wild stories that maybe worth looking into. One was the hidden Nazi gold train in Poland. One of the most famous modern legends is that there was a Nazi gold train.
This should be a movie. This would be a good movie. Sounds like a movie. Like Daniel Craig. Yeah. Supposedly, it was buried in a secret railway tunnel between the Al Mountains and uh near the town of Walt Brick, uh Poland. According to this theory, as the Soviet army was advancing in 45, the Nazis loaded a train with gold and priceless artworks and secret documents, then hid it in an underground tunnel to prevent its capture. Did you know that parents rank financial literacy as the number one most difficult life skill to teach? Meet Greenlight, the debit card and money app for families. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance, and keep an eye on your kids spending with real time notifications.
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We’re about to do some excavation in 2015. Uhoh. Two treasure hunters. Oh, god damn it. I want to be a treasure hunter. Two treasure hunters claimed they discovered the exact location of the train using ground pen penetrating radar. Uh, it it caused like this global media frenzy. However, they did excavations. It was like nothing. It was like a failed to produce it. Speaking of uh treasure hunters, they like there’s been like two times in the last like three years or so that they found like $10 million of coins like right. I saw that like coins or whatever. No, I saw there was this couple there’s this couple that [bleep] found like this whole like treasure trove of gold coins in their backyard.
Oh yeah, I saw that too. I was like you sons of [bleep] And they were like they were like what is this? And there was like literally like they made like 15 million. We need to get we need to start a treasure hunt. Yeah, we need to Twitter jobs. There’s nothing in the Well, Eric, there’s nothing in the sand in our backs, you know. You never know. You got to risk it. Babe, babe, quit the podcast. Treasure. Trust me. There’s this There’s this uh You got a metal detector. We’re doing this. Underground train in Poland. I’ll be back in a bit. I’ll be back in a bit.
Take care of my boys. Another famous story is a a sunken treasure in an Austrian lake. M uh it’s a lake Titzia. It’s a remote and deep lake in the Austrian Alps. During the final days of the war, Nazi SS officers reportedly dump crates of gold and secret documents into the lake to prevent capture. Divers have recovered crates of this this uh money. Really? No gold was found. Oh, really? Maybe that maybe that’s like the like the Lochess monster was created to Don’t look here. Don’t go on the or they found the crates and wink wink, we didn’t find the [bleep] gold. Oh no, there was no gold.
Apparently it’s it’s extremely dangerous underwater conditions including tons of like tree trunks and you know extreme depth, etc. So they haven’t explored the bottom. Yeah. So I’m going to need to get like certified and then we’re going to take a little little pod trip. The other the other uh theory is that there are way more castles in mines. I mean we already found remember the monument men found what $5 billion whatever in mines. So the idea is then there’s some mines that there’s [bleep] in the mines. There has to be yeah unaccessible mines. And so until we make them accessible especially near Hitler’s mountain retreat.
You ever see the Oh yeah. Eagle’s Nest or whatever. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Road trip. Other theory. Other theory is South America smuggled wealth via something called the rat lines. The rat lines. After World War II, many highranking Nazis escaped to South America, particularly Argentina, Brazil, and Chile using secret escape routes known as rat lines. There are theories that the vast amounts of stolen wealth were smuggled along with them in those planes and possibly stored in secret bank accounts, vaults, and hidden estates. It makes sense. I mean, it does make sense. It makes sense. It does. It does actually make sense. Some researchers argue that Swiss banks and other neutral entities, you know, the Swiss they may have helped them launder the assets.
We just hold cash, bro. Like, we’re not bad. keeping them hidden from the international community. And rumors possess that the private collections in Argentina may still house those stolen artworks. Yeah. You know that like the Swiss are like they’re they’re the M you know where we talked about in the news episode about like changing the little line items, little PO items. Mhm. Absolutely. Yeah. Just a little uh just a little little admin here. Little million dollar toilet. Exactly. This is totally legit. I’m totally above board. Absolutely. Uh then the one of the last ones is secreti Swiss bank accounts. And it’s widely believed that large sums of gold and valuables looted from the Holocaust victims in occupied nations were then deposited into secret Swiss bank accounts and then they escaped to South America.
Swiss banking secrecy laws for many years made tracing the funds impossible. Some efforts in the ’90s have been made to locate and return the assets, but significant amounts of gold remains unaccounted for. Billions of dollars. Billions, bro. It’s gone. And art. Yeah, those Swiss I mean the Swiss Well, like being neutral, like those dudes are shady as [bleep] Oh, yeah. So, there you go. We have evidence of we found gold in in only 20% of it, right, with the monuments men. And we know they went less than 20%. Yeah. Less than 20%. And we know they went to Argentina. There’s literally like towns that are Oh, dude.
They all speak German. They all like snitle and [bleep] sauerkraut. Yeah. Like grandpa’s like war chest. Yeah. And they’re in like Buenos areas. You’re like, “What the [bleep] Does it make any sense?” Yeah. So then the question then becomes, A, where is all the art? Mhm. B, where’s all the gold? And C, is there any legitimacy to the oult? The oult searching, the holy grail, the spear of destiny, the tech of Atlantis, uh, you know what I mean? Yeah, this is I know that was like five topics. It’s kind of mixed together. So what should we start on? I don’t I mean, I definitely think there’s some in Argentina for sure.
I think we all agree on that one. Yeah, 100%. So, they didn’t take all of it. I think a lot of it What can you take on a plane? Yeah. Yeah. You’re like limited like a limited I think you had to like a big ass boat. Yeah. Yeah. But like how are you how you heavy? No. Gold’s heavy as [bleep] Yeah. Yeah, I think I think more. So, there’s definitely some of that, but then there’s some of like, okay, war’s ending and they they’re just trying to get rid of it so they don’t like if I can’t have it, nobody else can have it. Yeah.
And so, they either like put in some of these mines, explode it, and just kind of like just destroy everything or like you said, you know, maybe throw it in the in the lake. But I think it was one of those things of like, you know, if I can’t have it, nobody else can have it. And they just kind of scattered it everywhere where you can’t find it, you What kind of psychopath though do you have to be to go like I’m going to take this Monae painting? I know. And I’m trying to escape Germany and I’m going to travel across the planet with my Monae.
What kind of dick [bleep] I mean well I mean you’ve already killed and made like I mean like what’s what’s taking your morals are taking the Monae is like the most survival thing to do at that point in time. You’re like I’m going to need the Monae. [bleep] the kids. Well, why don’t we take why don’t we take the art first? Okay. Cuz we’re we’re missing art, dude. I think I think a lot of the art is probably is probably actively in people’s been traded or in people’s on the been traded on the black market and is in people’s private collections. Yeah. I guarantee there’s some dude, you want to see you want to see it?
Oh, yeah. I’m not selling you. I’ll get you a a Jeff Thomas Jefferson bottle of wine and I’m gonna show you this Monae that was stolen. Exactly. It’s like, hell, this is my This is my 75 year age single malt whiskey. Come into me and I’m going to type a little code in my keypad here. Yeah. Coming in the vault. I mean I mean if like you know that I forgot that podcast that we were talking about that they bought a little like teacup or something on eBay or something. It was Tom Seagura and Bert Chryser. Yeah, that’s right. Like like if that kind of he’s like I should just try it.
Oh, that was hilarious. But like if that kind of [bleep] is going to make it to like you know auctions or the black market or whatever like for sure the art is is is has been traded and I’m going to say 70% of it 70% is most of it. I was going to say not all of it. I think a lot of it got destroyed 100%. You know, either they well either they destroyed it themselves like you’re like what the [bleep] do they care? Like they don’t value that thing, you know, if they’re if they’re like shooting about to get or Yeah. killed. And there’s got to be like a 25% destruction.
Oh, for sure. So, you think 75% got out? Yeah. I’m saying like 70 75%. Because like you imagine like a lot of these high ranking officials probably had them in their homes and like so you’re scrambling out. Yeah. And you leave it and your [bleep] gets [bleep] bombed or whatever. But you think it stayed right there around, you know, Germany, Austria. I think I think there or like Well, I think so. So So uh just imagine you’re you’re not very high up in the Nazis. Let’s say you were a Nazi though. Like a foot soldier. Yeah. Or no, like not even a foot soldier, but maybe like Yeah.
Like a captain or a lieutenant or a sergeant or whatever. Um for the most part, they were just sent home. the war ended and there’s there’s a there’s I think it’s the Geneva Convention where you you were following orders. You’re not hanged. Mhm. Well, yeah. The Geneva Convention was like obviously for war crimes. Yeah. But like, you know, if you didn’t have any war crimes, but you were still a Nazi. Yeah. They wouldn’t you wouldn’t be like [bleep] murdered for it. So, the point being is a lot of them were just sent home. Oh, like some some of the homies like some of the homies had it like under under their mattress like this, man.
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And they just put like one under their arm. They’re like, “No, this my my my grandmother painted this is no big deal. Nothing to see here.” Yeah. So, I think a lot of it is just retained there. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. In just their [bleep] atticss. Yeah. And I also think like during the scramble, it’s a lot easier for like, you know, maybe lesser officials to like be, “Fuck it. time to snatch and grab, but like years later, so present time, they’re still just sitting in some [bleep] person’s home that’s some not rich dude, you know, like Antiques Road Show.
He’s like, “This is the most in this is the most expensive painting on earth.” And and the person’s like, “Oh, I thought I was going to get 30 bucks.” So, that would be tough. And we would have to ask German uh citizens who had ancestors who are are not ancestors but their grandfather say who was an SS member the man an ancestor. Yeah. I mean yeah and they have [bleep] in their attic and they’re just like too afraid to even look at it like like dude I got a good job for BMW. I’m not trying to [bleep] this up. You know what I mean? Like, but like, dude, imagine having to live like having to live past that because I’m a firm I’m a firm believer in like the sins of the father don’t don’t you’re not liable for what your what your ancestors did.
Is it only father? No. Grandfather. No, I’m saying it’s that’s an expression. It’s not I know. No, I know. I know. But how far is it like No, like but like for example like is it great grandfather? No, but I’m saying like if your if your like Well, I think the closer it is to to present to present your dad. No, but if like if your dad was announc like you didn’t subscribe to it, should should you be treated like a piece of [bleep] But it’s so hard to probably not. Can you imagine? Can you imagine that that second generation of Germans like just trying to live a honest life, but everyone’s you [bleep] scumbag piece of [bleep] [bleep] you.
And everyone hates you and like and it’s and it becomes the reverse of what they did to the Jew, you know, the scarlet letter. It’s like you have a scarlet letter on you and you’re like, “Yeah, I’m just trying to I wasn’t even alive in the I don’t know what you do. I was a baby. I just got bored. I [bleep] shit.” I know. It’s true. It’s got to I can’t I can’t imagine what it’s like to try to then move on. Yeah. From something like that. Yeah, that does seem seems terrible. It’s [bleep] the worst. But if you had a Monae passed on on to you, then you especially if you knew it was tied to some Jewish property.
Well, you could probably justify the [bleep] out of that, you know. It was the family heirloom, but like, you know, you can’t even My my granddaddy got this legit. He got He got this Monet legit for me. No, but we we made like, you know, obviously cuz it’s like fresh. It’s pseudo fresh to us like with the Germans. But if we look throughout mankind, it’s it’s literally mankind has been a a destruction and pillage cycle. Yeah. When the Spanish took over everything, they were like, “Fuck you.” [bleep] killing everybody, but we don’t like we don’t like talk [bleep] about the, you know, the people from Spain.
Yeah. And then when like, you know, Alexander the [bleep] great bake [bleep] conquered the world, we’re not like, “Oh, [bleep] you.” And, you know, [bleep] all, all your all your ancestors. Exactly. And then like, you know, when the Romans did it, we were like, “Fuck you.” And it’s like it just keeps it’s so cyclical, but since it’s so fresh to us, we’re like, “Oh, we’re still got stigma.” Yeah. But like we don’t have a stigma about the [bleep] you know, about those [bleep] So, okay. So, then uh the occult stuff. Yeah, that’s true. So they the holy grail, the spear of destiny, the Atlantis, the super technology, anything.
Is that anything? I like the Atlantis idea. I has it has nothing to do with the Aryans. It is completely nothing to do with them at all. It is like a separate separate subject. It’s like a hope and a prayer. Yeah. They were just trying to like be cool. They were desperately trying to be with somebody. So, I I do think that Atlantis was potentially a real thing. I like I like to believe that. Yeah. I don’t necessarily think it was underwater. I think I think what may have happened was one of the cataclysms that may have forced it underwater. Yeah. And then that’s why we have this concept of being underwater.
Yeah. But what if they built the pyramids? Dude, that’s a thing. It could be. I don’t know. We got to do an episode. I don’t I don’t believe in the Holy Grail. I don’t believe in I don’t believe the spirit of destiny has any sort of magic abilities. I believe that Jesus was a dude and he was a good dude and he was trying to help people out, but I don’t believe he and the spear was real cuz he got stabbed. Yeah. I just I just don’t believe but it’s just a spear. I also I also but it’s also like one of those things like whatever you believe like so like if you really you know I’m not saying it’s going to give you like eternal [bleep] youth or eternal powers and this and that but like you know somebody can feel invis invinc invincible.
Yeah, there you go. Invincible. Oh yeah, like the mind over matter thing. It’s like the placebo. It’s like you think like like when people take a placebo drug and it cures them of something. They think they believe that it’s going to cure them. So it does but it’s actually nothing. Like and I also don’t believe like I believe Yeah. I believe Jesus was a dude. I believe he’s an awesome guy. He was like doing great stuff but I don’t believe he like had any like mystical magical abilities. Yeah. Okay. like you know and I think that all that stuff happened over time and that was like a a created thing that he was like perform these [bleep] miracles.
He was walking on water. I just believe he was like a dude that people follow cuz he was a good guy and he like wanted he wanted to help people and he wanted to take care of them and they were like this is amazing and then they had to like they had to pump it to pump it up a little bit you know. Yeah. The telephone game of the story. Yeah. The myth the legend [bleep] you had to boost you had to boost that ledge. legend. Gross. I I I do believe I like it. I like it. I I I subscribe to it to the Holy Grail.
No. To the whole Jesus thing that he was talking about. Oh, I’ll take the other side. Yeah. Okay. I just don’t think the Holy Grail is going to grant you like eternal life. I see. Yeah. I don’t you know they found it. No. Even if they did, it wouldn’t do anything. It just like a cup. I don’t think they found it. Eternal youth. No. No. No. No. I don’t believe I don’t even believe. Immortality. Like Hitler is still there somewhere living. Hell no. He drank it. And then that dude’s [bleep] dude toast. His liver was [bleep] cooked. He’s gone. Yeah. Okay. Same. And what about uh weapons of Well, clearly not weapons.
They would have used them. They would have used it. Hell yeah. They would have used it to try to win. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I think they were just trying to They were I think they were just trying to hold on to some belief that they were superior, but then they realized like, you know, last gasp of breath. Yeah. They they they had crushed for so long and then it’s like, you know, you can’t beat the numbers like we you got we got you. And they were like, [bleep] we got to be superior somehow. We got to like hold on to some type of like any string we can hold on to.
Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. All right. Okay. And then now the gold. I think the Americans [bleep] snatched that [bleep] bro. The Americans. Oh, dude. I think we super snatched. I think all of I think the whole Allies I think all the allies did. I think they all split it. Really? I think British Oh, dude. I think they I think they split that [bleep] That’s a wild theory. I like that one. And that’s why they were like convention like they get together. I think the convention probably started with like what we do all this cash and wow. Okay. Oh, dude. I think they told Didn’t we say that this was like the start of the corrupt corruption, baby.
They were like, “Damn, we brings [bleep] all those generals on the like [bleep] pay.” They’re like, “Woo!” Oh, yeah. And then they put like put yourself in in that time period and and in their shoes like you’re definitely taking some of that. Dude, we’re coming off the Great Depression. Oh yeah. It’s like [bleep] you know it’s like it’s like a rush. We were thriving after the war. Okay. So your theory is is that there was no occult thing. No. All of that is [bleep] But there was a splitting of the gold and there’s no more gold to be found. No, it’s all it’s all in Fortnite.
No, I think there probably is. No, I think there probably is some like there’s probably some like outposts that they didn’t find, but I think they found most of it and they were like, “Yeah, so we’re going to do this uh we’re going to do this money.” And then we had baby boomers. Well, it’s also to the, you know, like the to the victor goes the spoils. Yeah. There that there’s a reason there’s that saying. It’s also the victors write the history. Yeah. So it’s like it’s very easy for them and especially because there’s such a [bleep] hate for the Nazi. It’s very easy to be like uh this is our money.
Yeah. Like we didn’t find sh our it’s actually ours was always ours. So what you’re saying is is that if we we funded an expedition for treasure hunting, we would not find anything. We find [bleep] God damn it. I know. That’s my dream. We were counting on that. Yeah, I know. Well, we we found it and we lost it with our deficit. Now we are in the hole. All right. Right on. Well, there you go. Any last comments on it? Uh, you’re gonna edit out my stumbling. Of course you will. Of course. Of course I will. Of course I will. You will because No, I think it’s I think we shouldn’t forget about history.
History is important. History is uh it’s a really The older you get, the more you like, man, history is cool. Yeah. It’s because it’s awesome. It’s it’s it’s not awesome in the sense of like oh only good things happen bad things happen but how do you how do you you know hold on to who you are and you have to know what came before. I think it’s important I think it’s important to know like what what people are capable of so you can prepare for the future and you can understand humanity. So so [bleep] don’t forget about World War II [bleep] All right. So you don’t think that the there’s a Nazi base on the the dark side of the moon?
I know. There’s a 100% chance there’s none. Zero. There’s a 100% chance it does not exist. Okay. All right. And no no no gravity or time. Eric doesn’t even think we [bleep] can travel through space. So like there’s no way we can. All right. Real. Well, there you go, guys. Hope you enjoyed the episode. As always, uh, leave a comment. We want to hear what you thought. What where do you lie on this? Uh what do you think happened to all the gold uh treasures? What do you think about the literally the art? If you’re listening on Spotify, you can actually leave comments on each episode now.
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