What’s up, everybody? Welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast episode. We got a special one today, an an added episode, number three of, that’s right, that’s right. So this is OKC expanded, OKC, uh, the editor cut, the extended version, the uh, behind the scenes version. I don’t even know what we’re going to call this, but this is your bonus version, basically. It’s not the bonus bonus. Well, we did do part one and part two, right? And it was fairly thorough, um, but fairly, fairly. Yeah, not good enough for you. But, what, what we, uh, as, as the podcast grows, the more listeners there are and the more feedback we get, right?

Yeah, it was really good. Uh, so we got a lot, uh, especially on Tik Tok, and then we got some emails and some comments about certain things that we missed and or got wrong, and I thought there was enough that we can do a followup, and I love that, I love that you guys send us the, the comments and like give us the uh, Little Bits that we miss, you know, and help, you’re helping us out. Like, we, we definitely want to get it right and we want to get everything out there. So, and we’re, we’re pseudo professional, we’re not like full full professional. We say it all the time, what are we?

We’re three dudes, three dudes, three High School diplomas, three High School diplomas. So, uh, bear with us. Maybe, Eagle Scout, debatable. Sean has a lot of college credits, and you know, they’re literally just burning a hole in the ether. So we add all that together and we got maybe like one. Exactly, exactly. So here we go. So if you didn’t listen to part one and part two, obviously go back, as we say, um, please, God. But we kind of wrapped up episode two with some of the wild conspiracies that were about OKC. Yeah, and uh, we, we did what we normally do, which is we kind of talk about how we feel it went down, uh, what was real and what wasn’t, that sort of thing.

Um, there was more information that we’re going to go over now. Yeah, maybe we’ll change our M, yeah, maybe we’ll change our minds, etc. Um, maybe. So now, just a quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick recap, cap. You know, Timothy McVey was convicted, executed, yes, and as far as the government goes, it’s a c, it’s open and shut, yeah, it’s a closed case, like it’s, it’s over, etc. But you know, people lost their family. Uh, they lost, um, there’s 19, yeah, there, 19 children that passed. Um, and so those, those family members are still going through that. I was able to see a virtual tour of the memorial, the OKC Memorial, and it looks amazing, and it looks, they have these like chairs by the river, and each chair signifies one of the victims.

Oh, okay. And the small chairs are the kids. Oh my God. And the, the, the, the grown-up chairs are, you know, that sort of thing. So anyways, you know, so sad. So, I did, we did get the comments, we did get the feedback, and, and you know, there you go. So there was a couple that kept coming up. Okay, yeah, they kept coming up over and over and over. And if you go to our Tik Tok page, uh, you’ll see there’s a couple videos that we posted of, and it’s our own podcast, uh, telling the story, and in it there are two to 300 comments.

Yeah, and they’re all about these things that we didn’t really cover. One of which was Hillary Clinton, the Whitewater papers. Um, now we did mention it, like a little bit, like, did Hillary do it? Tiny bit, and like, that was about it, right? But a major conspiracy that has been circula is that, uh, do you remember when we did the Clinton episode? Yeah, of course. And there was this thing called Whitewater. Mhm. Oh, it was a, a real estate scandal, realate, of. So there is a conspiracy, we’ll go, we’ll go over in a bit, but there’s a conspiracy that says that the documents, like, she was tried four days later and the documents were in the building.

Oh, okay. And so there were lost documents, the whole thing with, like, when the Pentagon got bound and like, there was that, you know4 trillion missing, and they’re like, that was where the finance room was, and like, oh no, all of the, all of the documents are gone. Uh, but we’re going to get to that in a bit. So the first one, though, is uh, an interesting story, and it’s called, it’s about Terren Yiki [bleep]. Um, so Terrence Yiki, he was known as Terry, was a sergeant in the OKC Police Department, and he was one of the first people that were at the Al Mura building.

By the way, in the first two episodes, I said the building name wrong. Oh, would you say? So it’s not Murray, it’s Mur mura, M Mah, m mura, m. So I got about 15 comments saying I kept saying it wrong. How do you even, how do they show that you pronounce it’s like M. Yeah, so it’s Mah. So just, okay, we are fixing it, okay? Yeah, for you, the listener. Yes, exactly, we do this for you. Take this video right here and like video reply to that person. Uh, we said it right, hello M. So he was one of the First Responders, yeah, okay, um, his actions during the chaos and aftermath painted him as a hero, as, at the moment, uh, but a year later he tragically died.

Oh, I thought you were going to say, like, he was like, there’s, on camera, like just taking people’s wallets or something. Shitty body count, body count, back to the body count. Terry, Terry Yiki was known for his physical stature, uh, he was known for his physical stature because he was huge, he was like a huge dude, and he was, he was known for his bravery in the OKC, rescuing people, and there’s even photos of him, like, helping people and that sort of thing, and he was one of the first people, um, to be there on the morning of the bombing. Yiki was off duty, but he immediately rushed to the scene.

Solid guy, like him already. Witnesses and colleagues recounted how he tirelessly pulled survivors from the debris, administered first aid, and possibly saved many lives. [bleep] Yeah, sounds like a hero, sounds like a hero to me. Yeah, has a [bleep]. So he was awarded the Medal of Valor by OKC Police Department, uh, and that was basically for selfless acts in dark moments, that sort of thing. Yeah, so less than a year after the bombing, on May 8th, 1996, Teruki died in what was officially ruled a suicide. His body was found in a field near Eleno, Oklahoma, and it was a away from his abandoned car, and his abandoned car was smeared with blood.

So that means that there was, the officiality, in the car, the official report stated that he died from self-inflicted wounds via cutting. However, the nature and extent of the inj injuries led to skepticism among those that knew him. All was like, blood in the car, so it’s like, wait, so he committed suicide by what? By cutting? Well, there’s blood everywhere in the car and then he was found in the field, so he’s clearly like, he, if you want to like, oh no, run to the field, oh my God. I thought it double tap on the back, selfin with his left hand that he never uses.

So Yiki had multiple cuts on his wrists and arms, and his cause of death was a deep cut to his throat. No, okay, compounded by his car’s exhaust host taped to the passenger window. I mean this is like Overkill sketch. But it was dis disconnected from the exhaust pipe. So imagine if, uh, I’m about to kill myself and I’m like, I’m going to do the pipe thing, I’m going to duct tape it to the exhaust and then I’m going to put it into the window, close the window, right? Yeah, it was disconnected from the exhaust. Okay, so they’re saying, this is just all the data, I’m just giving you all the info, somebody [bleep] up.

[bleep] Some people say, some people say, like, he was trying to kill himself, and then he’s like, I don’t want to do it this way, instead I’m gna stab myself. Yeah, and then run into a field. Yeah, I just think it’s like, also, like, if you were going to do it that way, let’s be honest, you’re just going to go to like some random place on the side of the street and like, hook it up. Like, what if a cop comes by and like, uh, what’s hat? Like, what are you doing? Like, uh, sir, what’s, uh, what’s going on? Leave me alone, you don’t understand, leave me alone.

So what they say is that, I mean, it’s hard to say what they say, because, yeah, like, basically the idea, let’s say the, the police, what they say is that he tried to kill himself via the exhaust pipe, canceled it, then cut himself, and then scampered, or what’s the word, like, no, you cut yourself in the car and you’re bleeding out, yeah, and then, but why, if you were trying to kill, why would you craw away? You’re trying to die when you just sit there. It’s like, yeah, I don’t know there any drugs in his system. Oh, good, damn, great question. Yeah, detective. So some, some, some family members, friends, and independent researchers have, they say that Yiki was murdered because he had knowledge that contradicted the official report of the OKC bombings.

Yep, y, according to these theories, Yiki was compiling evidence of things he saw during the rescue efforts that did not match the reported accounts, and was planning to expose all of that information. Oh, [bleep]. Supporters of this theory argue that the manner of his death and the evidence found at the scene do not add up to a straightforward case of straight up suicide. They suggest that his intentions to reveal that evidence about the bombing led to him being silenced. The theory is compounded by claims that Yiki was experiencing harassment and intimidation in the months leading up to his death, leading to A state of a bit of fear, paranoia, that sort of thing.

This is my favorite theory so far. Yeah, super on this is like textbook, classic. Yeah, so the legacy of Ter Yiki is complex, uh, but it’s undeniable that he was a hero and he did do heroic things. The question then becomes, was he, uh, a little PTSD, kind of, you know, like he went through something so traumatic, and then he started to get, you know, when something happens and you start freaking out, and I don’t know, you know, I don’t know the answer. I mean, but I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, I mean, obviously, yeah, I’m sure he saw a lot of carnage and death.

Yeah, but I think, I don’t know, maybe, I maybe I’m wrong, at least I’m like a, equating it to, usually that happens, people are like, are doing the killing, or they’re like a party to the killing, and so then you have the, it’s like the guilt. No, you, I think you could still have like pts, P, PTSD, from like just being a part of that traumatic stret. Yeah, it’s just traumatic, and, and he went through that, but I don’t know, but that, it leads to this, uh, yeah, the killing part of sketch is debatable. His death is very strange, ick, super, superet, although, I mean, I’ve never tried to kill myself, so I don’t know how, I’m not trying to be insensitive either, but I don’t know how difficult it is, I don’t know, like, I think it would be incredibly difficult, especially with the, I can’t imagine, like, just, I’m just, obviously, gun, I’d be a gun guy, I don’t want, absolutely no fire, no, no, water, I’m, I’m not water, I’m not water, nightmare, I’d go gun.

Um, I, my personal thing would be like grenade. Yeah, to me that would, things, what if that goes wrong and like it just blows off your arm? Then I’m going, be, then I’m going to be in the field. [bleep] Damn it, why did I do this? But again, we’re not trying to be insensitive, but we’re trying to understand like, did, could this have happened, could he get into a car and go, okay, I’m going to kill myself via exhaust, I’m going to cancel the exhaust, I’m going to start cutting my arms, and then I’m going to start cut, and then I’m just going to say [bleep] it, I’m already bleeding out, I’m going to walk into a field and then I’m going to cut my own throat.

Well, we, we think we cut, he, he cut his throat in the car anyway. Well, they said, there’s so much, they said that’s, that was his ultimate cause of death, the throat cut. Yeah, I, so we don’t, I mean, but he also had cuts on his arms, but we don’t, I wish, I wish we had pictures, like, the evidence, and also I wish, I wish I knew, I wish we knew if he had drugs in his system, right? Cuz, how, I mean, to do that, to try to kill yourself without nothing, I don’t know, I think, I think we’ve heard of other, and we’ve gone over other suicides where, you know, you got, there were drugs involved out, or makes, I think it makes, like, all right, so there you go, that’s, that’s Terry Yiki.

God, that’s, okay, it’s a rough story. Yeah, yeah, all right, next one. Yeah, yeah, wooo, okay, this for the add-ons. So this is a straightup Tik Tock one. Okay, this is, and I’m talking millions of, milli ions of dances, all, all of the things. Yeah, okay. And that essentially is that Paul Weipo is Timothy McVey, Timothy McVey is Paul Weipo. Okay, who is Paul Weipo? Yeah, who is [bleep], John? Who’s like, who’s like John Lock? What is it, [bleep], you know, talking about book, yeah, I forget the name, I know what is his [bleep] name, damn it. F, um, okay, I’m going to tell you about Paul, and at the end, I, yeah, Paul Weiss.

So before joining the FBI, Paul Weipo served as a military lawyer in the US Army Advocate General’s Corps for three years, followed by another three years as a civilian attorney, yeah, 97, now keep in mind the dates, yeah, so we have, OKC was a couple years before, yeah, so 97 he began in the FBI as a special agent in the Minneapolis division, uh, financial and Susan security frauds, yeah, so like white color, 2002, promoted to supervisory special agent in the office of congressional affairs at FBI headquarters in DC, where he acted as a liaison with Congress. Cool, 2003, he was assigned a counterterrorism division, detailed to a CIA le working group, starting to get like more and more on the SC, like more and more like corrupt.

2004, 2004, promoted to supervise the Al-Qaeda squad in LA, LA, LA, had their own Alca LA division. This is 2004, was theot, this is terrorism, where every city’s got an FBI, sad. 2007, he advanced to assistant special agent in charge of the National Security Branch at El Paso. In 2009, he was promoted to inspector in charge, criminal investigation division, El Paso intelligence. Then in 2013, he was appointed director as the special, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Tampa division. Oh, [bleep], wow, overseeing the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in Clarksburg, West, West Virginia. He is, now, that, retired, oh okay, he is, that he’s a locala, he’s a local, yeah, I need to make an anonymous, he’s a local now.

You could also see photos of him, you remember the Orlando shooting? Yeah, yeah, at the, I forget what the club was called, um, but it was one of those shootings, yeah, you could see photos of him, he was one of the main agents on the scene, yeah, he looks very, very much like Timothy M. So I’m going to have you pull up a little photo, and just, just Google, uh, Paul Weiss. We, Paul Weiss, Weiss, I got it, I got it, and I want you two to be the judge. Earning your degree online doesn’t mean you have to go about it alone. At Capella University, we’re here to support you when you’re ready, from enrollment counselors who get to know you and your goals, to academic coaches who can help you form a plan to stay on track.

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So correct, so that is the conspiracy. Yeah, maybe he was like Sleeper Cell [bleep], like, so right after, so, he, it was a false, I don’t know how, false arrest or false like swap, whatever, and he joined the FBI a year or two later, and he looks very much similar to him, he looks how he would now compared to in the 90s. How do they get away? So this is Tik Tok going, like, Paul is Timothy, Timothy is Paul, you know what I mean? It’s like, e, like, [bleep] Einhorn is, is Einhorn, there you go, turns around, dick and balls, your gun is digging into my head, and everyone, but my thing is, but why, that’s the only thetive again, Tik Tok is, Tik Tok is amazing imagery, and there’s no real, who was also, how do they get away with, uh, him, his execution in 99 or whatever it was, that’s one of the big things, you just put another, another guy that happens to look just like him, yeah, or put it back, I mean, it’s the concept of a, a py swap, oh, like, get, like some other, the classic py, classic classic py swap.

I don’t know, it’s the oldest trick in the bat, see 100 times, I, there you go, I don’t know, I mean, they look very, very close, they do look very similar, but, you know, but people also think that I’m like Puerto Rican, so, like, I’m not, yeah, they, they, I get that too, actually, I’m like, no, Mexican, at least you speak Spanish, [bleep], I don’t, I get that all time, I could, I could, I bet you I could like Google your face right now, I’m going to find somebody that looks just like you. Yeah, I don’t want to play this game. Oh, we’re going to Tik Tok, we’re going to put it at Tik Tok, this a big, who does, you know what’s actually wild is, is another classic white guy, middle beard, glasses, bald, the same thing, find 200 people who look just like you.

What did we get a comment for? We, we got a, we got a an Apple review, it said, uh, oh my God, it said Rogan wannabes, and Rogan sucks. I know, but I also, I saw that too, and I was like, well, well, I mean, he’s hundreds of millions of dollars for his podcast. Take, I know, please, let me suck that, I will literally, I, who do I have to [bleep] to suck this? Bam, who do I have to [bleep] to suck this, who do I Got a [bleep] to suck this guy’s dick, no, to suck this bad, sorry. Okay, okay, got that on video, who do I got a [bleep] to suck this dick.

Got to make that into a meme. Yeah, make it go viral too, Tik Tok, Tik Tock dance. Yeah, so I, no, that’s, that’s the uh, that’s the Paul, that’s the, I mean, if there was more, if there was more connection I’d be like super into it, but it’s, l is like they look the same. Paul happened to live in Oklahoma two years earlier. I mean, we could probably, yeah, good question, there’s probably, I mean, I don’t know. You know, uh, have you ever been on the dark? Stay tuned for episode four, episode four, coming to a theater. Somebody, somebody commented one time and they were like, uh, yeah man, check out the dark web, and I was like, I’m good.

No, I was like, where, how do you, how do you, I get to this? Yeah, like, is there a, is there a map? Like, is there a, like, how do you get toal plugin ww.darkweb.com? Do, do [bleep] it, you know what I mean? Like, where is the darkb? I literally only thought there was one web. Yeah, I don’t know where it is. I do watch this dude, uh, I, I don’t remember his real name, but his, his like Instagram handle is like Thunder, and he’s he like uh, went to like Stanford, play football, but then he like studied computer science, and he like does all these things where he goes, like into the [bleep] dark web, I don’t know how, and he does all this weird [bleep], and it’s like [bleep] interesting, but I’m, I might have seen this guy actually.

But what is the dark web? It’s just, it’s in essence, like code, it’s just like Matrix C, it’s unregulated internet. Okay, it’s like the internet without, without any sort of regulations. Okay, so it’s like, it’s like what’s behind, like, so, and you can, no one’s monitoring it, there’s, there’s no like checks to it, like, I don’t [bleep] know. How is there like an app, is there like an app for this? Sean’s trying to like explain it. Dark web, you know, Apple’s not going to allow that. Yeah, definitely an Android thing, like Play Store, like come on, D, no, I don’t know. I don’t know how you get to it.

I think you need like a Linux operating system, to on, you need some sort of Linux operating system, [bleep], like, you know, thrown together, [bleep], you know, we’re such Millennials. You know why we’re such Millennials? Is cuz we don’t know how anything works, but we use it all, and we’re very savvy, but we don’t know how it works. I know, my daughter will ask me, like, I’m like, I don’t know, I just go ask Chat PT, like, it just happens, and like, can you imagine, can you imagine when the kids are growing up, and Chat PT is like fully overridden everything, it’s going to be like that, it’s going to be even more where they don’t know how things work.

Yeah, oh, I mean, they going to know how to write [bleep] speak. All right, anyways, next, next one, um, so this is the Whitewater, and the conspiracy is, is that the Whitewater documents that would have implicated the Clintons was destroyed in the OKC bombings. This took off on Facebook. You had me, you had me at Whitewater. This, yeah, well, yeah, that’s why. I had, so this took off on Facebook and uh, again, if you go back to our Tik Tok page, you can see that every third comment on anything we’ve posted about OKC, this white water, says Hill, Hillary did it, Whitewater. So it is very like out there.

Apparently everybody knew except us. Literally, like, [bleep], made a whole episode of how much we hate her. Apparently it started from this kind of meme that went around, uh, a few years ago, in on Facebook, and it said, reminder, this building, and it was a picture of the OKC building being, you know, the half blown up building was blown up and destroyed 4 days before Hillary Clinton was to be indicted in the Whitewater scandal. All of the documents were lost. It was a federal building, so maybe she been federally prosecuted, and like, it happened to like have little, little folder Bay in there, like, put the [bleep].

Although, it is not necessarily, I mean, that was Arkansas, but maybe OKC was the hub, maybe, maybe, I mean, yeah, the connection, cuz you don’t, you don’t have all the, you don’t have every like Little Rock’s not going to have an FBI building, I mean, like, so it barely has, we got to send it to OKC, cuz you know, it’s funny, I should probably, I should probably ask, is uh, you know, my uh, my my best friend Bryant lives in, lives in Arkansas now. Oh yeah, I’m going to head, I’m going to text him, y’all got a FAL building up? AR, at least got a post office over there, don’t, no, he’s got a pool, so he’s already upgrade for me.

So in the aftermath of the OKC bombing in ’95, conspiracy theories surface linking the tragic event to the Whitewater scandal that was happening at the same time with, uh, Hillary Clinton, which she was the US Secretary at that time, and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, uh, the narrative on social media platform suggests that crucial documents were destroyed in the bombing, days before Clinton was purportedly to be indicted. This narrative, however, is unfounded, and it contradicted multiple sources, but it continues to persist, and I, it’s hard to just know, but I’m going to give you a paragraph of what the Whitewater was, if you have not listened to the Clinton episode.

Yeah, okay, yeah, so the Whitewater controversy began in 78, 1978, uh, and it was a bank loan that was utilized by the Clintons and their partners, the m mcdou, which sounds like a [bleep], like 1800 Western feud. The, the MC [bleep]. God damn it, give me, give me McDougall. Down here, real quick, it’s my river, it’s my land, boy, boy, uh, sorry. So the McDougall, like the Hat fields of McCoy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, okay, that’s probably what I say. So the land, the loan, uh, was utilized by the Clinton and their partners, the McDougall, to purchase land in Arkansas for developing vacay homes. Over the years, the venture attracted extensive scrutiny, culminating in multiple investigations, uh, but no criminal charges were brought against the Clintons in relation to the Whitewater.

The case was officially closed in 2000, uh, and it, the prosecutor cited insufficient evidence to prove any criminal wrongdoing, ins insufficient evidence. So, uh, how the [bleep] did they know that the evidence was in building? That’s what I, exactly. So now, I, Facebook, like they look, like they got files in there. So I don’t know, water baby, I don’t know how much credence you give to like Rutter, uh, or Fact Cheer.org. Zero cred. Yeah, okay, well, I, I did go there and I did, I did read a couple of their reports on it, and they just couldn’t find anything. Oh, they, so it wasn’t like a fact check, it was just, we don’t know.

They did, no, they said false. Oh, okay. They did a report and they said, we found nothing that connected OKC to White Water. Oh, I see. Oh, but okay, but see, that, how can they say it’s false, therefore it’s false? No, like, we couldn’t find a connection, so, so it’s false, or they should just be like, we couldn’t find a connection, so we don’t know. Yeah, exactly, like, if they were like, to really, yeah, it should just say unknown, not no. The, the only way to truly fact check is be like, well, here’s where the documents are, they’re over there, that, now it’s fact check, cuz they’re not there, they’re there, they’re like, we don’t know, false.

Yeah, cuz Fat Fat Chicken has become more of like, oh, something sounds like a conspiracy, let’s just call it false, if there’s no document. Well, that’s why it’s a [bleep] conspiracy, like, it’s not out there, crime is committed. Yeah, it’s not like a clear-cut crime where somebody like, here’s this evidence, somebody got convicted, that’s why it’s called conspiracy, exactly. But now you can’t just say false to everything, but now, now it’s, now it’s a conspiracy, so you’re [bleep] weirdo. Yeah, exactly, yeah, [bleep] weirdo, fuckary, weirdo, [bleep], I’m just trying to give you the. So even, so even the FBI came out and they said, we found no evidence that showed that any of the documents were housed there.

Well, how would they, should they, there’s no evidence of anything, they don’t. Wait, okay, well, no, it goes back to that, that whole thing, if there’s no evidence of something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. No, but okay, like, like if a tree falls in the forest. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there’s no evidence that Santa exists. Yeah, yeah, but there’s no evidence that he doesn’t exist. You deci, said, said, so do you believe in Santa? I, I would if, if I didn’t, does that make sense? Like, do you believe in conspiracy? That’s a little different, it’s just like, like, the analogy I get, but it’s a little extreme.

Oh no, that’s going to be a Tik Tock viral video, we’re going to cut that. Anyways, there’s no evidence that you’re here, but, but, but do you believe, do you believe in me, do you believe that you’re, but do you really believe? Uh, so my thing is like, look, how does, how do like the FBI is like, well, we don’t know, but shouldn’t the prosecutors have known where the files are? Yeah, yeah, couldn’t they have easily squashed us being like, oh, we had the files here, and in my house? Yeah, cuz I’m prosecuting them, exactly. Why don’t they just say that, why can’t anyone just be like, oh, I have the, I have it, cuz I’m prosecuting them.

Okay, so no one says anything. Wait, just let me tell you, let me tell, shut the [bleep] up, let me tell you, let me tell you, um, so the, all the documents that were part of the case, 10,000 pages, were released, uh, by the National Archives in 2014, including Independent Council, including Kenneth Star. You remember Kenneth Star? He was kind of famous in the 90s, he did the impeachment for him, getting, you know, that whole thing. Yeah, yep, but he stated that the papers were in DC, not in Little Rock, or, and Little Rock, not in OKC. Okay, finally, it took, it took, it took Freedom of Information Act.

Like, finally, get, again, that was in 2014, and again, it was an independent council, so it wasn’t the original council. See, that’s what, see, this, just giving you all the information. I thought you said it was the guy that, uh, that investigated for the impeachment, but yeah, but that’s for, that’s for Monica Lewinsky, that’s not, not, not for Whitewater. But, but, well, okay, so if it’s an independent console, so it was him or not him, like, was it a third party? A third party, a third partyer, so I don’t even know why you mention. But, but it’s a very, well, he’s a, he’s a lawyer, just so.

He was part of this third party investigation, got it. Later, later, he wasn’t part of the original crew. Yes, exactly. Yeah, okay, see, this is why, this is why cons exist, inste getting a clear-cut answer. Hey bro, I’m the Lord, I got the papers, they’re like, we don’t know, [bleep] we talking about. They’re like, what, what do you think we’re going to do, like Jesus? It’s like, like when I try to lie to my kid, and she’s like, oh, I want gummies, I’m like, we don’t have any, but she’s like, well, the box right there. I’m like, what are you talking about? There’s no box, I don’t see a box.

Oh, that’s a different box, that’s a different box, that box is empty, I didn’t, I going to throw it away right now. Throw, you throw away a box of fuly good gummies just to prove your point? Know, right? Go to sleep. Again, though, coming, coming from this side of, okay, they all charges were dropped against them, and so there is no even criminal doing, like, there’s no, there was no legal. Yeah, well, and there was no like, uh, progressing even to a conviction or an indictment. Yeah, cuz they’re all part of the, they’re all part of the [bleep], the, they’re on the inside crowd. There you go, I don’t know.

There you go, so those, those are the, the stories, or the little things that we missed, um, that maybe, and, and stem from, then like, why, why, why even say that? Her face, cuz she was being indicted. Also, she was being indicted at the same time. Yeah, I, I, yeah, I remember that, you know what I mean? It’s very similar to, um, what was the guy who, right, the day before, two days before 911, he’s like, hey, we lost a bunch of money. Yeah, Donald Reld Rumsfeld did a press, press, they did an audit on, on the Pentagon, and they were like, uh, so they ordered the Pentagon, and there’s two trillion dollar missing.

Yeah, like accounting, and he’s like, we’re going to find, he’s like, we’re going to [bleep] find out what happened to this. And then, and then two days later, or days L, like when the plane, the plane hit the Pentagon, that all the files were in that part, and they’re like, lost it. So like, they couldn’t do anything, they’re like, DS, they just love that two Ls itself. Two trillion dollar was either two or four, two or four trillion, it lends itself to either conspiracy, or I mean, come on, chaos, coincidental timing, which is what Hillary was being indicted for, or at the same time, yeah, as OKC bombing, just an earlier, you know how it’s like, we talk about, like, you can have like one coincidence, but than one, when like the same [bleep] get, it’s like so cyclical.

Then you’re like, it can’t just be like, oh, accidentally all the evidence is gone. Again, oh damn, especially over literally two trillion. Where do you, where do you like put on your conspiracy? High is it, two coincidences or three? Dude, I’m, I’m like, I’m putting it on after like one, I’m like, yeah, I’m like, I’m like, it’s like, almost. And then like the second one, I’m like, [bleep], I’m like wearing a ski mask, I’m g say two. You’re, you’re a three guy, like, like five or 10. Yeah, 10, 10 conspiracies, and even then, he’s like, he’s just here to give a [bleep]. Eric’s here, Eric’s here, podcast is in bias, negative bias, trying to balance his out.

Okay, so all of that new data, now I do wish, and I’m sorry about this, but I do wish it was in our part two. Yeah, totally, and, and then we could have done our conclusions a little bit better, because there was more data to be had, but here we are, and, and we learn, and we, you know, uh, again, all of this stuff is about learning new stuff and then reanalyzing and having the ability to change your mind. And I like it, I appreciate you guys like commenting and, and sending in the, the info, cuz I’ rather make another up date episode or whatever you.

I also find that a lot of the times, when, when you guys write in, I, I like your guys’ theories better than my own dam, that’s [bleep] sounds legit. [bleep] I’m like, why did I think about that? I remember when we did the DIA pass, man, we had a lot of, a lot of crazy theories, cuz that was so [bleep] confusing with the radiation, and I’m like, how, what, so we had a lot of cool theories on that. So appreciate, cool part about doing the podcast, like, you know, we, we really get like that community back and forth, you know? Yeah, join the community. Yeah, but also, also it allows us to change our mind.

I mean, before I started doing this podcast, I didn’t believe in any of them. I mean, me and Eric would fight, physic, well, not physically, verbally fight over a lot of, and actually I’ve, I, I feel like I’m, I’ve leaned more, you know what I mean, like I’m more a little bit open to it, and I, and I hope you guys maybe are a little bit more like looking at stuff too, or at least getting all the info and then kind of going. The last one, what was the one we did? I was like, no conspiracy, I called, I called, like [bleep], no conspiracy on.

Yeah, I think somebody, somebody listened or commented on our YouTube video, and they’re like, you believe any of these, awesome, you have a conspiracy podcast with no conspiracies, way to go, dick. Forest, I know, like I’m like, D, you watch the one like, didn’t like, usually I’m like, way, I’m like way up the deepend. Okay, so on this, I know we already kind of went over it, but did anything change for you? Are you still, nope, I, I, I, I was close to fli, you know, to go on the side of, uh, this Clinton, uh, oh, the Clinton, yeah, but not enough. What about the cop?

I think the, I, the cop, there’s something, there’s something a foot, something is a foot, I don’t know what it is, I don’t know what he found. We don’t know what H was going on his life either, true. Do you what I mean? He, I mean, it could be, could have a gambling debt, I mean, he could, he could have been like caught, like you know, his wife found his [bleep] Only Fans in like [bleep] 96, maybe. Innovator, baby, American online, right? Okay, I think it’s one of those, I think there’s something there though, I think there’s something’s going on, I don’t know if it’s, I don’t know what the connection is, but something’s happening.

I still, if somebody did take him out, okay, what’s the motive? The motive is, no, the motive that, he’s, he was one of the first on the scene, okay, so he saw something, and he’s like, why? Like, for example, I don’t know, maybe there’s a dude in a bi, no, maybe there’s a dude with a tie, and he’s like, hey, uh, I found an axhole with a VIN. Yeah, and you’re like, what? But it’s, but it’s like, take them out. Yeah, yeah, it’s like, no, but it’s a different accent, they’re like, shut the [bleep] up, a youha axle, no, you mean a rider, you mean Rider, right?

Rerer, maybe they saw like, maybe he saw like a dude like pulling up a truck and like pulling an axle out of it, and like, oh, what, I found one, and then he’s probably like, what? He sa, there’s some, there’s some people that say, and there, there are some more conspiracies that, that have even less grounding or even less data behind it, like, um, some say that all ATF agents were called out of the building ahead of time before, so no, nobody was there, things like that, maybe lend to the cop going, yeah, what the [bleep], yeah, what’s happening, or, and then maybe he started asking like questions, and like, and they’re like, shut the [bleep] up, right?

Yeah, I don’t know, yeah, he’s getting like, they calling like, doing like hang up. Like, I agree, I agree, I actually star 69, or what was, what was it back in the day? True, it’s only $3 a piece, [bleep]. Wa, was it star 67? It was one 69, it was 69ine, I think, 67 only gave you like basic data, like the cheaper one? No, maybe star 67 would like dial back, dial back call back. You’re like, okayu, oh, I got you, you think, you think you got me, you think you got me with the unlisted. I me, star 67 your ass. That was like the first, like the, that was the first dark web thing you, you going to get, gu, so I don’t, uh, I don’t think anything happened with White Water.

I think that’s kind of just, that’s a, that’s a anti Hillary thing, you know what I mean? Yeah, I, Hillary was guilty in that, but I don’t think this had anything to do. I think she got hers, you know, like, she, she was protecting her own, and she probably did something illegal, but I don’t think, I don’t think they, I don’t think They bombed the building just to hide her [bleep] vacation, real estate transaction that went arai. Yeah, it just, I know, seems a little extra. Let’s kill 19 [bleep] children and over a couple million dollar in Arkansas, like, seems a little extreme. But no, but their properties were in AR, but the, um, uh, the cop is weird to me, is weird, cop is weird to me.

Yeah, I, there’s something there, there’s something there, there’s something, what it is, yeah, I don’t know what that is. So you don’t think he kills himself? I think he would have to be so drugged out to do something like that, and we just don’t know, we don’t know that, we don’t know the, yeah, and maybe, maybe, maybe some of our listeners can help us out if there’s an autopsy report or toxicology report, love to see. Actually, Jenny’s our, our forensic person, so, uh, Jenny, get on it, get on Ito find it for us. Put your fantasy football lineup down and do some, do some work, Jenny please.

Jenny, um, I will give you a, I’ll give you a 12 minute shout out if you find this. St, and then lastly, is the, the FBI agent in Tampa, I think that’s just a, I mean, there’s a lot of people look the same and know, it’s like why, you know, it’s like when probably when people come here from in the country, like God, all these white people look exactly the same. Okay, anyway, anyway, anyway, so, so that’s, you know, that’s that folks. Um, uh, let us know what you think. Yeah, and always please write in, like, this, I just want you guys to keep, keep fueling, keep fueling the conversation, we love it, we actually do love it, and even, even the guys who are like, are you supposed to be funny, [bleep] idiot, we love that too, cuz you’re a [bleep] loser, shut up, cuz we’re hilarious, I know, everyone loves us’re even if you don’t think we’re funny, it’s totally, thanks for listening though, I appreciate you listening.

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