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That’s right, absolutely, through and through. Uh, okay, so we are doing something, we, we’re doing, this is OJ Simpson. Yeah, okay, let’s put it out there. Welcome to the episode on OJ Simpson, or James Simpsons. That’s right, look at you already. Uh, okay, so the reason why we’re doing OJ, cuz somebody asked me, they’re like, why are you doing OJ? It’s not really like a conspiracy. I mean, really. And I was like, okay, well, the reason why I wanted to do OJ is because at one point I was on Instagram and somebody sent me a video, and it’s [bleep], OJ sipping like a a beer, like a knac, and this was like a month ago.

It wasn’t, this isn’t like, he’s, he’s literally like having a BLT and a beer, living his best life. And he’s, H, I’ve seen the video, he’s like happy. Yeah, he’s happy as [bleep]. And so I was just kind of like, like, what the [bleep], a little bit enraged, because I don’t know, we need to shed the light on it, like, it, because it is, exactly, it is a conspiracy, cuz the [bleep] is free. Yeah, like, yeah, and make us, us free. What, what defines a conspiracy? A conspiracy, one is like one or more, yeah, two, two or more people. Two or more people conspiring to to to commit a crime, and or to do something illegal, or NE, yeah, that’s it, or to hide something, or whatever, right?

And so, you know, this person was acquitted for the murder of two people. Yes. So here we are. And what we know today is that if he didn’t do it, who did? We still don’t know if if he did, not in it, is still a mystery. Yeah, big if, exactly. Well, there’s no other suspects. I mean, yeah, he just, feel like he, like that happens, the cops are like, well, put this one in the cold case files. So here you go. So we’re going to go through this, this happened in the early 90s, so I’m hoping that some people actually don’t know the thorough story.

Yeah, I don’t think a lot of people do, especially most of the the younger crowd. Probably, like, they know, you know, the cliff notes. Yeah, exactly. So my sister was born in 90, and so she was four years old when this happened. So does she know about it? I don’t know, she, an aid football follower, probably not. Exactly, but now she’s over 30, and, you know what I mean. So that’s, that’s like you were saying, a lot of people hear the cliff notes, or, you know, the gist of it, or whatever, like, they watch like the show on FX and they’re like, oh, this is everything you need to know, John.

And then like, uh, what’s his name, [bleep], um, Kuba, no, um, from, frommer, David schwimer than, I thought it was a good show. It was good, it wasn’t, it wasn’t bad, good. I thought, uh, Kuba did good, I thought he did great. I thought he really, very believable. Yeah, it was good. Okay, here we go, we’re going to dive in, here we go. So, and just so you know, where a lot of this research came from, I did read a couple of the books. I I even read OJ’s book, I was telling Sean about it before the show, rivy, uh, disaster of book. Anyways, and you know, a lot of the documentaries that are out, and, and, you know, the ESPN did a great one, 30 for30.

Oh yeah, I have seen that, te, yeah, it’s really good, really good. Um, so anyways, here we go. Uh, OJ, the juice, was born, what was his name, orthal James, orthal James Simpson, on July 9th, 1947, and he was born in Peto Hill, which is, h, a neighborhood in San Francisco. Okay, his father left him when he was like two or three, and his mom worked at a hospital to support the four children. Damn. Yeah, so when he was a toddler, he developed something called rickets. Have you ever heard of rickets? I don’t know what it is, I heard of it, know, ien heard of that.

In short, rickets is like a soft bone problem. Oh, like where your bones are just soft, like, like unbreakable, like Samuel Jackson’s, like, like Mr. glass. Yeah, and and not quite the same as Forest scump, but uh, similar, where the bones are, this, and they’re crooked, they, they usually develop something called like a, like if you got on a horse, the B for, yeah, like a bow kind of walking scenario. Yeah, so like, like a penguin. Yeah, so he actually, it left him pigeon toed and bowlegged. Yeah, and he was not able to afford the surgery to get it done, so he kind of got bullied as a kid, called like pencil pins, because of his legs.

And and until he was five, kids had lame ass jokes back in the day, [bleep] pencil panss. Until he was five, he actually wore braces on the legs to try to fix it, try, like, for straighten it out. Yeah, yeah, that’s what I was saying, like a little similar, you know, not really similar. Running, just running, run, OJ, run, s tyen, can’t see here, pencil pins. So his early interest in sports was encouraged by his mom. His dad was named Jimmy Lee Simpson. He, you know, his is a weird story, because they couldn’t really tell where, he, what he did really. There’s not a lot of info of what he did.

He worked at a bank. Oh, really, robbing it, or I don’t know. And later this came out later, but it turned out that he was gay, and that he was a well-known drag queen in downtown San frco. Oh, so that’s why he dipped, he was like, I’m GNA live my best life. Yeah, I don’t know, there’s not a lot of info, basically, but he, you know, wasn’t really a big part of his life. And then in 1986, he died of AIDS. M. So okay, there you go, episode, they did, they did reconcile later, like when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, but for the most part, he wasn’t, wasn’t there, you know.

And wait, when when did he get, uh, inducted to the Hall of Fame, like 85, 84, somewhere in there? Yeah, yeah, so I, he’s really good at football, so, yeah. But I thought it, I thought it was in the 90s for some reason. But anyways, yeah, no, that was, that was when, he, yeah, so stupid, the Bronco. So uh, simpsons’s maternal grandparents were from Louisiana, they named him orthal, which she said it was based on a french actor, but he was called OJ from birth. Or make a French look. Yeah, so we got something in common. My mom named me after a Nolla character. Yeah, that’s right, the heart throb of the, I’m pretty sure he was a brain surger.

Yeah, exactly. So, like I said, he grew up in San Francisco, and he grew up in the projects. So in his teenage years, he joined a gang called the Persian Warriors. The [bleep]. He, for for robbery or theft, I guess, like as a minor. It’s not really called robbery, it’s called like, it’s like stealing candy or stealing whatever, bikes and stealing, it’s theft, petty theft, like larsy. I, yeah, things like that. Yeah, but he was incarcerated at the San Francisco youth guide Center. So he did do some [bleep], and he did go to, he did some hard time. He, well, it was like a juvie.

Yeah, he went to juvie. Yeah, so then, at, in high school, it a place called Galileo high school, that’s when he first started playing football. Uh, he graduated that High School in 1965. I, like, damn, I’m good as [bleep] at this. Later on, you’re going to hear about a guy named AC. AC was the guy who was driving the Bronco. Oh, I, I, what? Yeah, I thought was driving. He was in the back seat. Oh, just chilling. Yeah, that’s what I thought. He’s like looking at [bleep] Instagram. So there’s a guy named AC, and AC was in high school with OJ, and they were in the gang together.

They were. Yeah, and so that’s just to give you an idea of how long he’s known AC. Oh, they’re like blood brothers. So then something happened where he was in juvie, and Willie Mays came to visit him, and will, apparently Willie Mays gave him an inspire iring speech of, get your [bleep] together, you can accomplish your goals, and apparently that’s what got him out of it. I see, Willie May showed up at the prison, gave some sort of inspirational speech, said you could do it, don’t do drugs. Yes, exactly. And so apparently, per, you know, reports, and OJ, that it was a a moment of time where he changed, in front of, like, from being in a gang to going, okay, let’s focus on sport.

I think it’s pretty cool, though, think, like those things like work, you know, like Willie May wasn’t thinking, he was gonna make a difference, like, okay, this is like part of my PR campaign, you know, I’m going to do it whatever, but like, changed, you know? Yeah, a portion of a kid’s life. Yeah, a portion. Yeah, I heard Willie is cool, for for for a little bit. I mean, I bet for a few years, couple years, on straight narrow. Can you imagine asking Willie Mays what he thinks about OJ now? He’s like, no com, he’s like, who’s that, I don’t know who that is. Did he pass?

Really, I’m pretty sure. Prett sure, dude, he’s, if he didn’t, he’s like ancient. Yeah, he’s, I think he’s like… My god. Well, he was also Barry Bond’s Godfather. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s 92, still live. He’s going, go Wily, still killing the game. Go Willie. All right, all right, right on, all right. So Simpson and AC, they were named All City team in high school, so they were the star players of the high school football team. Yeah, unfortunately Simpson didn’t have good grades, and so, so he didn’t, he didn’t go immediately to like a college. College, yeah, he went to a City College in San Francisco.

Oh yeah, in City College he was doing 9.3 yards a carry. Dude, that’s [bleep] crazy. Yeah, he scored 54 touchdowns in high school. Wow, how many years though, did he start? Four, I mean high school, you know what I mean. I know, it’s High School, say 12 a year, 133 a year, you know what I mean, it’s like one a game. It’s so, yeah, anyways, seem better, uh, uh, from Ohio, dude, just like anywhere, from any state, 50 colleges tried to recruit him after his sophomore year in high school, because he was killing. Maybe it was like, maybe, like that was like the [bleep] back in the day.

Yeah, cuz like now it’s, you know, you got kids, have you know, quarterbacks, 7,000 [bleep] passing yards, like 89 touchdowns in one year. I’m like, what the [bleep]. So he chose the UN, University of South California, so USC, it’s actually University of Southern California, Eric, it’s not South California. In the high school, he met somebody named Margarite, and Margarite ended up being his first wife. So they met in high school, and as he became a star, she was with, she was latched, she was with him, not going nowhere. Okay, so then he goes to USC. [bleep] [bleep] are plenty at USC. He, he was a two-time All-American, in 1968 he won the Heisman.

Yeah, I know, crazy. But I, seriously, he won the Heisman, he won like, the, he won the the most prestigious award in college football. Yeah, exactly, like you’re the best, you’re the chosen one. So he was selected number one in the 1969 draft, by the bills, by the bills, by the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, okay, so his career in Buffalo, right, he played for 11 years in Buffalo. 1978 and 197 9, which is his last two years, he played for the ners. Okay, total, he rushed for 11,000 yards. He had an average kickoff return of 30 yards. That’s amazing. Incredible. So that’s so good, that’s crazy, 76 touchdowns, that’s great.

You know, the first two years he actually wasn’t a big success, like he wasn’t in the Rookie of the Year running or anything, a DA, he’s like average. Yeah, and then his, a coach took over, Lou Sabin, for you Bills fans, you probably know him. He, he became the coach in 72, and he was like a run first guy, mhm, you know what I mean, and so they drafted linemen, they got it, hand the [bleep] ball off. Yes, so they were like, give him the rock. Right, so immediately when LC sain took over, he became a superstar, right, doing commercials. 1973, so 1973 he became the first running back to rush over 2,000 yards in a season.

In a season, it’s, it’s so hard, first ever, first ever. Oh wow, okay, not to mention it was the 14 game season then. Oh, oh wow, God, guys can’t even do a 17 game season now. That’s, that’s why it was such a big, 14 game, 14 game, play three games, 2000, they didn’t think he was going to make it. His 14th game, he rushed 200 yards and he got two 2003 yards. Yeah, back in the day, they’re probably like paying off the defense, like give me 10 G. So, years later, fantasy league, and it wasn’t like he didn’t keep going, like he just kept being the best for years.

And so two years later he did 1,800 yards, which is, I mean this, yeah, I want them, that’s like fantasy, that’s like Derrick Henry’s best year. Yeah, that’d be your number one. Yeah, then that year he broke the record for number of touchdowns in a year. Jesus. Wow, so, 14 games, he scored 23 touchdowns. Just slang. So he scor, he scored [bleep] 1.5, 1.75 touchdowns a game. So he was the league rusher in 72, 73, 75, and 76. So he had four years of, nting, number one. Yeah, yep, he was selected NFL player of the year, 72, 73, and 75. Jesus. He played in six Pro Bowls.

You know, he was the fastest player to gain a, yards in a season, so he got a, th000 yards in the first seven games. Damn, what the [bleep]. Yeah, that’s crazy, like I’m a defense back then, like I’m averaging 150 yards a game, there’s no defense. Yeah, in 1973 his average game was 143, 143 yards per game, for the whole season. Yeah, I’d be winning all my fantasy leagues if it was like guaranteed. So anyway, so that’s, that’s his, uh, in a nutshell. I knew he was good, but I didn’t know like the stats. I didn’t actually know, like, some, his highlights are really good, especially even in college, he has got some [bleep] great highlights.

Uh, I think it’s the rose bll, or one of the Bulls, they were down and they were like, oh, we need 80 yards, and it’s like a minute, and not even a minute, and he just ran it the whole way. So, G him the ball. Yeah, it was one of the greatest, I think it was the game, it was called the big game, it was USC against UCLA, you know, the rival, the battle, the battle of California. Okay, so during this time he also became a celebrity, of, in movies. Yeah, so he started doing movies, he was in Dragnet. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Dragnet, it’s like a cop show.

Perfect, C show. No wonder, no wonder we got all those inside, inside Intel. So he also, what, he’s actually one of his biggest roles is a spokesperson for Herz. Yeah, and so Herz, his commercial was, OJ’s got to run, and it was this commercial of, what are you GNA do, and OJ’s jumping over a bag, and he’s like, I got to go to Herz and get my car real fast, and he’s running through the airport, cuz he’s running, you know, the person who scripted this, what are you going to do, I need M car cuz I’m, I’m super rich and famous, I need to go to Herz.

And so everybody knew him as the Herz guy. So he did some movies, he did something called Back to the Beach, and then he did three Naked Gun movies. Yeah, remember Naked Gun, that’s what I’ve seen, those, yeah. Oh, they, so good, he’s actually hilarious. I don’t want to say he’s good in it, but because he’s a bad, but it’s actually a funny, it’s the perfect movie for the whole, you’re not acting. Yeah, Nordberg, his name is Nordberg. Oh yeah, really, Lesie Nielson’s, this, obviously the, k, yeah, have you ever seen the interview, he goes on Letterman and he’s talking, he’s very serious, and he had a fart machine and he just starts, so funny, seems like he’s actually ripping ass.

Yeah, and he’s just dead pan, and that’s like back when, like comedy was so slap, so ridiculous. Yeah, like airplane time perod, like, so good. Um, he also was slated to play Terminator. Oh, really? Yeah, and at the time James Cameron was going to have Schwarzenegger play Kyle Ree, which was the other guy, you remember, Terminator 1? No way. Yeah, and so, so Kyle Ree is the guy who comes back from, yeah, he, human, yeah, but KY Re is actually John Conor’s father. That’s right. Yeah, there you go. So, but that just didn’t work out, and casted Schwarzenegger as the Terminator. It be so funny, you know?

Yeah, like actually does it in Terminator 3, it’s just really kind of sloppy looking, like they’re like, really, no, that’s not going to work. So, so then he retired, he got inducted into the Hall of Fame, College Hall of Fame and NFL Hall of Fame, and then, you, you can’t be taken out of that, this, in the 80s. And he started, and then he started, what, all people do, is a commentator, on, of course, uh, NBC, it’s the only thing, you know. So, and like you’re, and household names, like, oh yeah, it was with like Mike, Mike dicka, and, a, you know, couple other guys that you, yeah, yeah, from the 80s to the ’90s he did 37 appearances in movies and TV.

That’s a lot. So he was doing some stuff. Yeah, the agent was working. Yeah, he was doing stuff, he was making a lot of money. I bet, he, a lot of money. That’s money to live. He was living in brenwood, bro. Yeah, I think in the 70s ‘ 80s though, the NFL contracts were not, oh dude, they, they, now, God no, I think the highest paid player, back, back in the, back then, was getting like, yeah, $1 million. Yeah, yeah, and like now Patrick Mahomes makes that, 80 minutes, ridiculous. So true. Okay, so moving out of his football life right now, he became, just, just, I’ll touch on it, and it’s not anything I have written down really, but, but he, he grew up in the ghetto.

Okay, he grew up in the projects, he grew up in that life, and you know, in the black community, in the projects, of, with the Persian Knights, persi warri. So what you noticed when you were studying, I guess, his life, is that when he became famous, he became more interested in getting out of that life. [bleep] Yeah, yeah, you know, understandably. Well, some people, some people want to go back, they like, oh yeah, I’ll still live in the hood, and that’s me, and my homies are all rich, but we still live in like the [bleep] holes. I don’t know why they do, but, like, growing up, so his first wife was, was a black woman that he grew up in the projects, Marg, Mar, and then he married like the whest possible.

So in the 80s he started to now move to Brentwood. You know, his friends, how I diversify out, the GH, yeah. And one of his best friends was, you… Know, Kardashian, a white lawyer, you know what I mean, and it just became, he met Nicole, a white blonde woman, and it just, I know that sound, I don’t want to say I’m like nitpicking it, but it, visually you can see it, all his then became White, wealthy people. Y, and you know, he like changed his hold, like he’s like, I’m not, I’m like almost like I don’t want to be from there anymore, want, life suck, my dad left me as, drag queen, it’s almost like, what, what does it need to look like so that I’m not looking like I’m from, you know, from this.

And I’m not saying, I’m not saying, I’m not saying he’s wrong or or anything, right, I’m just telling you what I saw, what visually, right, obviously it’s, it’s very transparent when it’s like, but like, you know, like if they, I get super rich and famous, I will, it won’t necessar be the color, it will just be like, yeah, I’ll hang out with you guys and everyone else can just [bleep] off. I’ll be like, who are you? Well, that’s, I only shop at Whole Foods, please. Whole Food’s only, like, yeah, I’ll pay the ext, I’ll pay the premium, yeah, don’t even tell me how much it is, for for for the air.

Yeah, it’s like, did I ask you for the receipt, throw that [bleep] away, peasants, peasant. I’m not a peasant, I’m not a peasant. So he had a couple kids with Margarite, right, he had three children, Arnell, Jason, and Aaron. And a sad part of this, in 1979, which was the year he was retiring and he was playing for the ners, his kid was two, at the same house, that, in Brentwood, and drowned accidentally in the pool. Really? Yeah, one of those, like, you know, those incidents where kid just ran, and it just happened, to one of the, one of the linebackers, on the box. Dude, twoy old?

Yeah, dude, it’s so up, don’t [bleep] around with that pool stuff, no God. I get the gate, get the gate, and make sure the gate is actually secure. Yeah, I just had to put up a gate recently cuz my, my daughter’s a year and a half. I saw, I saw you, I saw the gate. Yeah, we, it’s so annoying, buty, but you need it. Hey guys, hope we’re enjoying the show so far. We wanted to take a break and, and just remind you of the different ways that you can support our podcast. The first and foremost is, you can subscribe by clicking the follow button on Apple Podcast or Spotify Podcast, it’s on the show page, it’s really easy, you just click it and subscribe.

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Nicole was a waitress at a nightclub called the Daisy. Uh, he was still married to his first wife, of course, classic, but they were, so he knew her for 2 years, it’s questionable, from the club. No, no. So, per OJ’s book that he wrote, called if I did it, it’s so bad, if I did it, he says that they didn’t do anything. A, come on, per, per OJ is very creditable. Creditable source. Didn’t OJ also say he didn’t do it? I didn’t do it. So come on. They started dating, and then, and then, then he got divorced. O, years later, OJ and Margarite divorced in ’79, so they met in ’77, Nicole, when they start dating, undetermined, you know.

Okay, so that’s, didn’t have sex until marriage. Exactly. So OJ retired, got divorced, and then 5 years later married Nicole. But they, together for that time, we, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously for the five years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so then Nicole and OJ had two kids, named Brooke and Justin, 1985, 1988. Okay, so now we’re gonna fast forward. Now, I know we have a disclaimer at the beginning of this show, every disclaimer that we have, right? Yeah, this is not for children’s, but this is, this is where we’re going to get a little bit, you know, we’re gonna try to keep, rough and tumble, yeah, we’re gonna try to keep it light, you know what I mean, but at the same time it’s not light, it’s not a light, I don’t know, yeah, bringing you the facts.

Yeah, okay, so, tru, truth, I put this in here because these are journals that were found after the trial. Yes, of Nicole, be prepared. So, um, these are, these are handwritten by Nicole, and I’ve seen them, it’s in her handwriting, she wrote this. Yeah, okay, all right. OJ was abusive, so that’s, that’s the, her words, that’s her. So she Des cries how her husband allegedly threw her against walls and onto the floor. Nicole says, handwritten, OJ beat me for hours. Oh [bleep], damn. The first time OJ beat her in, was in 1978, right, so, so he was still married at the time? Wait, right, they were dating, but he was still, he didn’t get divorced till ’79.

I know, right, oh my God, yeah, there you go, his credibility, she dating. And this is what she says, she says that he battered her while they were having sex, oh God, and pummeled her for hours, ripping her clothes off and smashing her car with a baseball bat. Entry details how the how OJ once screamed at her and he said, I have a gun in my hand, get the [bleep] out of here. Damn. Her sister Tanya said of the beatings that perhaps Nicole knew of her death, because she kept saying he was going to kill me, in her journals. He said, I think she’s, he’s going to kill me.

She’s probably trying to document, us, like, you know, arrest him. Yeah, so the, the diaries were found in a safety deposit box, alongside photographs that she took of herself being beaten. This, okay, this is [bleep] madness, the fact that she literally did all the work for them and they [bleep] it up. Anyways, dude, it’s enraging. Oh, keep going, God. So in 2016 a documentary revisited some of the entries, and she says that, he just kept hitting me while we [bleep]. Stop [bleep] him, Jesus Christ. The newer documentary reveals how one passage describes that he beat her for hours after an anniversary party in 1978. The first time he beat me up, after Lewis and Nanny Mary’s anniversary party, it started on the street corner of, of NYC, Fifth AV, at about 9:00.

He threw me on the floor, hit me, kicked me. We went to the hotel where he continued to beat me for hours, and I continued crawling for the door. Damn. Another entry says he smashed her Mercedes with a baseball bat after coming home late, and she said, she was in the car, I was too afraid to get out of the car. So would I, I would not get out of the car. So at one point she claims that he beat her while she was pregnant, and how he ripped her clothes off after having lots of drinks. Nicole went to the hospital, but told the hospital that she got into a bike accident.

God, yeah, I mean, yeah, this is, this is, you know, what life like in the 80s, I guess, because that [bleep] happens. Not, they could have like looked at her wrong and like [bleep], in jail, like 203, Nicole wrote, Nicole wrote in her diary, she says, OJ was drunk, he never let up, get the [bleep] out of my house, you fat ass liar, she’s pregnant, bro, I packed a few things together for you. 1985, she filed for a divorce, citing, ear, you know, differences. Yeah, well, citing incessant beatings. Jesus Christ. So this is a quote from an officer of the LAPD, and he responded to one of the 911 calls of her getting beat.

He said, when you have a call come out and the 911 operator puts you out on the call, and the operator can hear the woman being beaten in the background, you know it’s serious, you need to get there. When he arrived, she’s wearing nothing but a bra and sweatpants, and she was covered in mud, and she kept yelling, he’s going to kill me, he’s going to kill me. She was so wet and cold that you can feel her shivering, to her bones. And I saidwell who’s going to kill you? And she said, OJ. She said, you guys have been up here eight times now, all you do is talk to him and you never do anything.

[bleep], the, it’s, it, damn, man, her family should have sued the LAPD. So when, so when they were still married, there were several more incidents of domestic abuse where she was hospitalized. According to the New York Times, a New Year’s party in 1989, police reported stating that Simpson beat Nicole so severely she needed to go to the hospital. The police report at the hospital said Nicole had a cut lip, a swollen and blackened left eye and cheek, and a handprint on her neck. Holy [bleep]. And I saw the photos, and cuz they took, you know, it’s like a rape kit, not a rape kit, but like they do, and she’s got a full black eye, you know what I mean, it’s like swollen.

And I mean, unless she was crazy and did it to herself, I don’t know, not, B, that’s not a bike accident. Yeah, exactly, so I got a I fell into a fist, another bike, yeah, like come on now. So since we’re talking about this, so later on we’ll talk about how, after he was acquitted, he had a civil trial where the, the, the family sued him. Oh, and they W, yeah, they sued him. And so you, you have to do more, like, it’s not a criminal trial, so, yeah, he… Can’t go, he can’t go to prison, but like you get money. But I do definitely think, I mean, Jesus Christ, the LAPD had to be some sort of complic in this, eight times, and that was just at that moment.

Well, part of it, part of it too, is there was a bit of a star struck thing. Oh my God, it’s OJ, OJ, I love OJ, he play for my ners, baby, the juice, you know, that whole thing. There’s got to be that, 100%, got to be. According to videotapes of Simpson during the civil trial, he initially denied that that altercation on New Year happened. Of course he did. Yeah, I, to talk about, so when he was shown, when he was shown the photos of her being beaten, or of her puled face, he testified that they could have actually been makeup from a movie they were working on together.

What the heck, God. So then he was asked, that’s not funny, I’m just saying, like, it’s so stupid, so ins stupid that you got to laugh about it. They’re like, what about this handprint on her neck? [bleep] makeup. So fingerprint make. So then he was asked straight, he said, they asked him, have you ever hurt your wife, ever, and he says, I hurt my wife, yes. And then they asked, well, then he said, I never punched her in the face though, I could have touched her neck, yes, I could have touched, touched her neck, testified a handprint. He testified that he never struck, slapped, hit, kick, or beat Nicole in any way.

He’s like, but I, need her like in the face, is that from the civil later? Okay, got it. So what, what did you hit her with, a pillow? A [bleep] black gu. He’s strangely good at going, I’m responsible for her being beaten, but, but I didn’t hit her. Yeah, right, I’m responsible for for it, he probably hit her with other things, and that way, he’s, I never physically, I never touched her. Like he hit her with like a, a, a pan. Yeah, he’s like, the pan hit her, hand, my hand hit her. You should arrest the pan. Yeah, my hand was on the pan, I know, my hands never touched her face.

What a, aging [bleep], yeah, meanwhile he’s eating the [bleep] BLT, another, yeah, drinking a beer, andando. So just one more incident that happened, which is, Nicole came out after the police came, and she ran out of the bushes and she screamed, he’s going to kill me, he’s going to kill me. And Simpson had punched and kicked his wife and pulled her hair and screamed, I’ll kill you. According to the documents, he had slapped her so hard that, that’s the, the police officer said that that’s where the handprint left on her neck. Oh, he slapped her on the neck. I fig that was the, a choke, that was the ninth time.

The ninth, the ninth time, J, was the ninth time. So he then was arrested, thank God, finally he was arrested. And he pleaded no contest to a charge of spousal abuse, and was sentenced to 120 hours of community service. Cool, so nothing happens. And two years probation. But, I, slap on the wrist, slap on hand. I guarantee he did not do that community service. Guarant, right, guaranteed. I know, actually, I think I’d have to check on the notes, but I think he did a fundraiser and he accumulated all the people’s hours together into 120 hours, and he like spoke about his rushing accolades. When I was running, I was running hella fast, I was so good, you should be like me, and must be better than yourself.

Okay, so in 1992 they filed for divorce, or Nicole did, yeah. Okay, so here’s the strange part, in ’93 they attempted to reconcile. Stupid move, I don’t know why she would do that. According to a friend, Sheila Weller, they were a dramatic, mutually obsessed couple before they were married, after they were married, after they were divorced, and after they tried to reconcile. So they’re like strangely into it, I guess, that’s what they’re saying, there’s like these two roller coasters, like, I love you, I hate you, punch me, oh, do me, like a whole thing, a whole thing, a whole thing, you punch me, do me.

So [bleep] outrageous. I know, but I just don’t understand, and I don’t want to be insensitive, but after the fourth time, don’t you check out, my, I mean, after the eighth time, isn’t it, like, no, but I mean, okay, we’re at Nally, but statistically, how do you get to the the, yeah, yeah, the first time, [bleep], the first time is, seems like, but it’s just, yeah, I mean, I don’t know, I, I’m not [bleep] expert or anything, but I just hear, you know, you just hear about these abuse, and then they keep coming back, victims, and then they can’t get away, you feel trapped, or maybe you also feel fearful, you can’t, you know, get away, whatever.

And they had, she had kids, that’s true, money, I know, he’s got the power because he had the money, but then, I think it’s, I think once you let it happen the first time, then you start to justify it to yourself, like, yeah, oh, he didn’t, he doesn’t mean, he loves me. And then it’s, now you’re at eight times, and you’re like, [bleep] it, I, I can’t leave now, I’ve already taken so much. But it would be, you know, whatever, you just trick yourself in the beleving, this, I love him, he’s so passionate, he tells, he always mies up, I can’t, sorry, I don’t understand it.

I, this is the part about Nicole I don’t understand. I don’t get it either, you know, especially why, like her family was, I mean, her sister is clearly not on board. What the [bleep]. I am. Okay, so now we move to June 12th. June 12th, 1993, this is the night, the night, the night, right, the night. Okay, so at this point they’re separated, yeah, wait, but they’re trying to, they’re in the reconciliation period, though, kind of. Yeah, so we’re at, at June 12th now, this is, uh, they’re divorced, he’s dating somebody named Paula, she’s like a model, beautiful, gorgeous, yeah, she’s a gorgeous woman, she has the kids, they have kind of like joint custody, and they’re kind of, per his book, I, I hate quoting, I hate quoting his book, it’s, it’s like, it’s almost like using Wikipedia as a source for, like, a, like a college paper, and they’re like, this is not a valid source.

No way, worse than Wikipedia. Way worse. He says, yeah, he says that she was trying to get back with him. I don’t want, she wanted, I don’t want, yeah, during, she asked me to hit her, yeah, I don’t know. And he’s, oh, I was really in love with my girl Paula. And you know, you know, anyways, but here we are, June 12th, I wonder if they have that on audio. Nicole Brown Simpson and OJ, they go to a dance recital for their daughter. MH, yeah, it’s 6 o’, they leave separately. Okay, mhm, Nicole goes to dinner with her family and friends at a place called mesaluna, which is a restaurant.

Okay, um, there’s somebody who’s a waiter there named Ron Goldman. MH, okay, Ron Goldman, I don’t know if, if you don’t know, he’s the other victim. Yes. Yeah, okay, so he was a waiter at this restaurant. Nicole’s mom leaves behind her eyeglasses at the restaurant. Okay, so Ron knew Nicole, and they kind of became friends, they would do like workouts and yoga and stuff like that, they swear that there was no thing. I don’t know if there was a thing or not. Yeah, okay, yeah, don’t really matter, I mean, she’s single, it doesn’t matter, she can do whatever she wants. Yeah, she can do what it wants.

The manager of mesaluna recounted that Brown’s mother telephoned the restaurant at 9:37 p.m. about a pair of lost eyeglasses. The manager found the glasses, put him in a white envelope, which Ron Goldman then took with him as he left the restaurant, at the end of his chift, at 9:50 p.m., and said, I’ll drop him off at her house on the way home. Damn, nice guys finish last again, God damn, ITN, honestly, the saddest part of this whole story is actually Ron, cuz he was like, he had nothing, he had nothing to do with anything. Crossfire, honestly, honestly, just in the wrong place, the wrong time, and [bleep], just a really really sad story about him.

So meanwhile, Simpson got takeout food from McDonald’s, class, right, [bleep], and there was this guy, I don’t know if you remember, but there was this guy named KO, kin, oh yeah, remember ko, ko had long blonde hair, name, and he was like a failed actor, and he was friends with Nicole, yeah, but he would just live there, just be at the house, so there was a cottage, there was a cottage in the back, and he was staying at the cottage free of charge, yeah, just chilling, to help with the kids and Nicole. Yeah, okay, so OJ went to McDonald’s with KO. Hey brother, let’s get some m, yeah, this before Uber Eats, obvious.

Oh, wa, so here’s, now this part is a rumor, yeah, rumors were circulating that Simpson had been on drugs the night, that night, the New York Post, Cindy Adams, said that the pair had actually gone to a Burger King where a known drug dealer named Jr had admitted to selling the meth. Oh God, damn, like why, why would you be like, something like, like he’s rich now, like why are you on, like why you smoking meth, Jesus, going back to roots, trap roots, baby, crack, give me some crack, Jesus. If you’re wondering where that’s from, that’s from the New York Post, Cindy Adams. Yeah, Cindy, okay, I believe her over OJ, okay, 100%.

So at 10:15, Nicole Simpson’s neighbor, so Nicole lives down the street, oh, she doesn’t live with OJ, I know, but like, I didn’t realize it was just like, it’s not the same place. Okay, it’s down the street. Okay, Nicole’s neighbor hears a dog wailing at 10:15. Okay, 10:40, two miles from Nicole’s home, so two miles away, at OJ’s home, KO goes outside to investigate a thumping on the side of the wall… He has no idea, he says, he, and I quote, he said it felt like an earthquake. And he’s got a guest house, and so there was a path that led behind the guest house to the main house.

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and so he, like, you know what I mean, so he’s like, what is this [bleep] thing outside, right? Okay, good. So 10:50 p.m., a neighbor walking their dog near Nicole’s condo encounters a big white dog, unattended, with bloody paws. [bleep] Red flag, right? Yeah, literally around 10:55. Okay, the Akita, that’s the type of dog. Oh, they’re huge, huge dog, the aita, the legs were covered in blood. The followed the man home, he tried to walk the dog too. Yeah, he tried to walk the dog back, but the dog resisted. Later, like, I don’t want to [bleep] be there. [bleep] that. So about 45 minutes later, he decided to take the dog back to where he found it, right, and see what was going on.

So around midnight, they reached the area where they found the dog, the dog stopped outside of Nicole’s condo, and the couple saw Nicole lying outside the house. The police were then called. Okay, so this is midnight. Yeah, they didn’t know anything was going on until they saw the, B, they’re like, oh [bleep]. Yeah, okay, and so, um, I’m gonna just run through this because this is, this is about, you, KO is at OJ’s house. Yeah, yeah, but he heard that the thump in, or, that’s all we got, that’s all we got so far, that’s all we got so far, wait, be patient. Okay, so this is, per the cops.

Okay, so this is, this is per the cops, the front door to Nicole’s condo was open when the bodies were found, there were no signs that anyone had entered the building by breaking in or otherwise. Brown’s body was laying face down, she was barefoot, and at the bottom of the stairs leading to the door, the walkway leading to the stairs was covered in blood, but the soles of her feet were clean. Okay, so she didn’t walk through it. Based on this evidence, investigators concluded that she was the first person to be killed, and she was the intended target. She had been stabbed multiple times in the head and the neck, but there were very few defensive wounds on her hands, implying a short struggle and just instant death, basically.

Yeah, the final wound inflicted ran deep into her neck, severing her cored artery. A large bruise in the center of her upper back, with a corresponding footprint on her clothing, indicated that after killing Ron Goldman, the as salent returned to Brown’s body, stood on her back, pulled her head back by her hair, and slit her throat. Jesus [bleep] Christ, her lay necks could be seen through the wound. That’s so overkill. Damn, that sounds like a meth rage to me. Yeah, her, ver, vertebrae C3 was cut. Jesus, see, vertebrae, it’s like strong as [bleep], from all the way. When the police found her, her head was barely attached to her body.

God. Oh my God, so she pretty much decapitated her. That’s, that takes a lot of force, it’s not like it’s an easy [bleep]. That’s insane, isn’t it? It’s insane. So Ron, his body was nearby, and it was close to a tree, in the fence, he had been stabbed 33 times. It’s so many times, such an unnecessary amount of times. There were also, there were a few wounds on his hand, but not a lot, you know what I mean, so he struggled a little bit, but not a lot. Forensic evidence from the LA County corner alleged that the as salent stabbed Goldwin with one hand while holding him in a choke hold.

Oh, so it’s, got him like, stab, prison style. Near Ron’s body was a blue knit cap and a left and extra large Isotoner light leather glove, and the envelope, the white envelope, had the glasses in them, that was right next to the body. Detectives determined that Ron came to Nicole’s house in the middle of the killing. Oh [bleep], he’s like, hey, got your glasses, oh sh, never mind. Oh, and that the killer killed him simply as a witness, like, who the [bleep] are you, and killed him because of that. Yeah, there was a trail of bloody shoeprints that ran through the back gate, so there was a back way.

Yeah, right, there’s the back gate that led through a path to go through a tennis court of OJ’s, to his house. Okay, so he literally, it’s like he just waled on over. [bleep] So there was a trail of bloody shoe prints that ran through the back gate, like literally ran into OJ’s bedroom. What the [bleep]. To the left of some of the prince were drops of blood that were not Ron and Nicole’s. To, to the left, did not run the DNA. Oh my god, oh, oh Jesus, we’ll get there, we’ll get there. So investigators concluded that it was from, it was blood dripping from the left hand or the left side, right, and they measured the distance between the blood and the shoeprints, and it looked like he was, he, the as salent was walking, meaning the strides were, in certain, you know, so it was just, okay, you can, you can, walking, Cal, get, C, getting, he was actually skipping.

Okay, so 11 p.m., Simpson comes out of his house. So we don’t know the gap. Oh, the time, like, we don’t know. Yeah, we don’t know what happened from here. Yeah, right, but here’s what we do know, at 11:01 p.m. OJ comes out of his house to meet his limo driver, to take him to Chicago for some business thing. The limo driver said he had been waiting since 10:25, so he’d been waiting 45 minutes. Damn. At 11:15, Simpson leaves in the limo for LA. Intern, at 11:45, his plane departs on his way to Chicago. This, a perfect timing, you know, it’s like, let, get out of Dodge.

At 4:00 a.m., OJ checks into the O’Hare Plaza Hotel in Chicago. Okay, 4:30 a.m., please go to OJ’s home, because they find the body of his ex-wife and they go, oh, and so a guy named Mark Ferman goes, oh, I know OJ, I, I’ve been to his house on domestic calls, I’ve seen him, I know where he lives, I’m going to go notify the next of kin. So they go to OJ’s house. Okay, please go to OJ’s home, intending to inform him of the death, they discover a trail of blood from his white Bronco to the front door. Jesus Christ, what the [bleep]. They also find, down the side of the house, they find another bloody glove matching one that was next to Ron.

Yeah, I mean, a slam dunk case, right here, serious, what the [bleep]. Okay, that is a conspiracy. Jesus Christ, oh my God, it’s like they find OJ standing over her body. Yeah, okay, so at 6:30 in the morning, he’s in Chicago, and he gets a phone call from one of the detectives, and they say, Nicole’s dead, she’s been killed, and he doesn’t, zero reaction, he said that, oh, she’s been killed, wait, what, killed. And something that they brought up later in the trial was that he didn’t say how she died, he just said, okay, I’m going to come back from Chicago, meaning, if you got notified that your wife, like, how the [bleep] she get killed, what happened, so he just said, she’s, she got killed, okay, I’m coming home, he’s like, I got to call my lawyer, we’ll be, I’ll, yeah, [bleep] her.

So at 10:45 a.m., the police obtain a search warrant for OJ’s property, proper, where they found more blood in his Bronco and in and around the mansion. At noon, OJ arrived back in LA, and back at his house, he was handcuffed briefly, and then he was questioned for three and a half hours by the police without an attorney. Now, this is where they started [bleep] up. The cops, yeah, they like jump gun, yeah, they didn’t press him, and a lot of, and he had a cut on his hand, and they were, where did you get that cut, and he was, I don’t know, Chicago, here, there, I don’t know, you know, and it was just vague answers, and you just didn’t really answer anything.

But they probably weren’t, but how, but when did it happen, [bleep] tell us now. Yeah, they weren’t a good, it wasn’t a good interrogation. They were probably like, can we get an autograph, Mr., honestly. Yeah, okay, so at that point Shapiro, Robert Shapiro, then became his lawyer. June 16th, which is like two days later, he went to Nicole’s funeral, and there’s video of him attending the funeral, and that sort of thing, and very awkward. Yeah, super awkward, you know what I mean. The next day, which is June 17th, he was charged with two counts of murder, and the prosecutors said they would think about seeking the death penalty.

Yeah, so he was supposed to surrender to the police. Shapiro then told the police, the da, don’t worry, we’re going to bring him in at 11:00 a.m. So for some reason the police were like, okay, cool, this guy who’s arrested for murder, stabbing, like, SE, stab stab, he could come in at his own leisure. You’re like, nine’s too early for us, think like 11:30. So he did not show up. Nope, he did not show up, and he was quote unquote in hiding at Kardashian’s home. Y, uh, so he failed to surrender as promised, and he was then declared a fugitive. He then snuck out of the back of the home and he jumped into the white Bronco with AC, and that’s where we’re gonna end this, this episode.

Everybody knows the Bronco Chase. So he got into the Bronco and he disappeared. That’s right, so that’s leading up to part two. Obviously part two is going to be about the trial and the, the Bronco Chase, and that sort of thing. So there we go, what do you guys think so far? I mean, I probably not good to ask me what I think, I ruin, the ruin the moment. So far, about the same thing when we started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, it’s also like, I watch every night before bed, any, I watch my wife watch like either forensic… Files, like CSI, yeah, and it’s just, I know, obviously it’s like a show, I mean, I could, there’s enough evidence for me to like [bleep] convict it, like I have no legal training and I’d be like, easy peasy.

There’s a lot of evidence against them, a lot, like a crazy amount. It’s crazy how they [bleep] this up. But yeah, that’s what we’re going to get into in our next episode. It is a conspiracy, it made us think, we’re talking about crime, this a [bleep] conspiracy. Yeah, so we’ll get into, I mean, there’s the argument of the police planting it there, there is, there’s the Mark Ferman, the racist police officer, there’s, there’s all sorts of stuff. So, so tune in, obviously we want to hear your thoughts on what you think. You know, also, you know what, any, any other information that we might have, like, skipped over something, you, we should add in, we can make a little addendum, we love doing that.

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We’re trying to keep it light, but at the same time we understand that that, this, what happened, in, and Ron, is is horrible, it’s terrifying, it’s abolutely terrifying, horrible, and there’s, you know, real, that we got to go over. That’s right, and it’s, it’s, and trust me, like it’s, it’s a lot better to to try, and, and, and, and laugh, but not laughing at the situation, we’re just laughing because trying to keep it light, because otherwise I would just be somber, I would just be sitting here like staring, and like, I just be angry. Yeah, and I want, just want to go home. Yeah, that’s right.

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