The Assassination of RFK Part One: The Path of a Nation – Episode #60
The Assassination of RFK Part One: The Path of a Nation
This episode opens a multi-part series on the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, tracing his life and political career in the years leading up to 1968. Born November 20, 1924, in Massachusetts, RFK was one of nine children of Joseph and Rose Kennedy and grew up in a privileged, disciplined household centered on public service and family expectations.
The hosts follow his path from the U.S. Naval Reserve and a first job at the U.S. Justice Department, through his work investigating Teamsters union corruption and Jimmy Hoffa, his role as campaign manager for brother John F. Kennedy’s 1960 presidential run, his service as U.S. Attorney General, and his 1964 election as U.S. Senator from New York.
By 1968, Kennedy was running for the Democratic presidential nomination on a platform centered on civil rights, ending the Vietnam War, and economic opportunity, delivering an impromptu speech on the night of Martin Luther King Jr.’s assassination. On June 5, 1968, after winning the California primary, he was shot at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles and died the next day. The hosts frame the exact circumstances of the shooting, and any wider theories about who was responsible, as open questions to be examined in later episodes of the series.
- Robert Francis Kennedy was born November 20, 1924, in Massachusetts, one of nine children of Joseph and Rose Kennedy, and grew up in a wealthy household with strict rules around schedule, language, and weekly weigh-ins.
- Bobby enlisted in the U.S. Naval Reserve in 1943, graduated Milton Academy the following year, and was honorably discharged after World War II without seeing combat; his older brother Joe Jr. was killed in a plane explosion during a secret military mission in Europe in August 1944.
- After graduating law school at the University of Virginia in 1951, Bobby’s first job was with the U.S. Justice Department investigating Soviet spies, and in 1957 he worked for the Senate Rackets Committee investigating Teamsters union corruption, targeting union boss Jimmy Hoffa, whose trial ended in acquittal.
- Bobby managed John F. Kennedy’s 1960 presidential campaign, then served as U.S. Attorney General from 1961 to 1963, working on civil rights and the Cuban Missile Crisis, and resigned after JFK’s November 1963 assassination rather than continue serving under President Lyndon B. Johnson.
- Elected U.S. Senator from New York in 1964, Kennedy clashed with LBJ over Vietnam War policy by 1967 and announced his own 1968 presidential campaign, delivering an impromptu speech announcing Martin Luther King Jr.’s assassination on April 4, 1968.
- On June 5, 1968, after winning the California Democratic primary with 46% of the vote, Kennedy was shot while walking through the Ambassador Hotel’s kitchen pantry in Los Angeles, struck three times including once behind the right ear, and died within 24 hours at Los Angeles’ Good Samaritan Hospital; the hosts note the official account has him shot from the front despite the wound behind his ear, a detail they flag as an open question for later episodes.
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Cu, uh, let me know when you guys are done. You know, I think we’re done now. Y, anyways, uh, topic for today, so we’re doing, we’re doing a series now, and I’ve been wanting to do this series for a long time, and it is on the assassination of Robert Kennedy, Robert F Kennedy. I mean, this is, it’s a big boy, dude. In fact, we’re, in fact, we’re gonna have to do a couple parts, I know, we’re going to do a couple parts, I think we’re going to do about three, this is going to be about a three bagger, I think, little tripis, yeah, in a major, massive, huge shout out, super huge, and we’re going to call her the head of research.
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That’s right, see, Caprice for conspiracy. But we’ve been working on this for a couple months, and so this is part one, so we thank you, and we hope you guys enjoy it. When we get rich, we’re going to send you like a deluxe care package. For us? Yeah, we’ll fly you out. She’s playing the long game. It’s okay, she’s playing the long game, she playing the long game. So, are you guys ready? I mean, do you guys know a lot about this, or you guys, you know, dude, your thoughts, ahead of time, surprisingly, I don’t know a lot about, same, I think, uh, JFK kind of overshadows it.
I know it does, a little bit, like he was old brother, he was just the Attorney General. Loser, wasn’t the president. Many people know the name RFK or Bobby Kennedy, but they don’t know his story. Bobby was the younger brother of John F Kennedy, and like his brother, he was on, on his way to creating change in the world before his life came to an early end when a gunman fired a fatal shot. Yes. So Robert Kennedy, so on June 5th, 1968, Bobby was in a race against Eugene McCarthy, and this was for the primary, so the Democratic, he was running for president. That’s right.
So, you know, you have to win the primary, right, so you, in order to be, in order to be the candidate for that party, that right. And so this is for the Democratic party, right, the Dem ratic party presidential nomination. It was a big night for RFK, we’re going to call him RFK from now onen, so RFK, a night of victory and celebration after winning the vote in the California primary. That’s a big one. After hearing the results, Kennedy went to address his supporters in the ballroom of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. He gave a short speech and then he left the stage to head to a victory party.
We thank you very much, thank you very much. I want to express my gratitude to, uh, my dog Freckles, who’s been malign. I don’t care what they, as Franklin Roosevelt said, I don’t care what they say about me, but when they start to attack my dog and I, it’s not, I’m not doing this in the order of importance, but I also want to thank my wife. Asle, her patience during this whole effort is a, is fantastic, fantas. Thank you very much. Freckles has gone home to bed, he h, thought very early that we were going to win, so he retired. Thank, uh, a number of other people, if I may, all of those of you who work so hard in this campaign, all of the students who work across this state.
I think that we can end the divisions within the United States. What I think is, uh, what I think is quite clear is, is that we can work together. In the last analysis, and that what has been going on within the United States over the period of the last three years, the divisions, the violence, the disenchantment with our society, the divisions, whether it’s between blacks and whites, between the poor and the more affluent, or between age groups, or on the war in Vietnam, that we can start to work together. We are a great country, and a selfish country, and a compassionate country, and I intend to make that my basis for running.
And over the period of the next, what I think all of these primaries have indicated, if I can just take a minute or two minutes more of your time, what all of these primaries have indicated, and all of the party caucuses have indicated, whether they occurred in Colorado or Idaho or Iowa, wherever they occurred, it was the people in the Democratic party and the people in the United States wanted change. And that change can come about only if they, those who are delegates in Chicago, recognize the importance of what has happened here in the state of California, what has happened in South Dakota, what happened in New Hampshire, what happened across the rest of this country.
The country wants to move in a different direction, we want to deal with our own problems within our own country, and we want peace in Vietnam. The fact is that all of us are involved in this great effort, and it’s a great effort, not on behalf of the democratic party, it’s a great effort on behalf of the United States, on behalf of our own people, on behalf of mankind all around the globe, and the Next Generation. And I would hope, I would hope, I would hope now that the California primary is finished, now that these primaries over, that we could now concentrate on having a dialogue or a debate, I hope, between the vice president and perhaps myself, on what direction we want to go in the United States, what we’re going to do in the rural areas of our country, what we’re going to do for those who still suffer within the United States from hunger, what we’re going to do around the rest of the globe, and whether we’re going to continue the policies that have been so unsuccessful in Vietnam, of American troops and American Marines carrying the major burden of that conflict.
I do not want to, and I think we should move in a different direction. So I, so I thank, I thank all of you who made this possible this evening, all of the effort that you made, and all of the people whose names I haven’t mentioned, but who made all did all of the work at the precinct level, who got out the vote, who did all of the effort, and brought forth all of the effort that’s required. I was a campaign manager eight years ago, I know what a difference that kind of an effort and that kind of commitment makes. So I thank all of you, both of you are here, mayor May Yi has just sent me a message that we’ve been here too long already, so, uh, my thanks to all of you, and now it’s on to Chicago, and let’s win there.
Thank you. Instead of taking the planned route, he left through the hotel ‘s kitchen pantry at 12:15 in the morning. The hotel was buzzing with excitement, and RFK took to shaking the hands, saying thek the kitchen, no, everybody, yeah, walking in, saying hey, thank you so much, Etc. Pop, pop, pop, shots are fired. Five people are wounded, and RFK is shot three times, twice in the chest and once behind his right ear. Damn, that was like, that damn, that’s like head shot, the [bleep]. He fell to the ground, and he asked, as his final words, is everyone okay? Damn, what a, wow, wow, just like, just a, what a standup guy.
He’s like, is everyone, but especially, I mean, this is what they think are his last words. There, you know. What I mean, it’s loud, people are freaking the [bleep] out. Whisperings. But, but it’s also, it’s like that was a lot of pops, cuz if five people were injured, it was like, like, like they got a lot, that’s a lot of shots. Yeah. A hotel associate reassured him, and Bobby relaxed. He went in and out of consciousness, and within 24 hours of the shooting, Kennedy died, and the fatal shot was to his head, and he died at LA Good Samaritan. Shipping can make or break a sale, so optimize how you ship your orders with ship station.
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But what’s crazy is, is I do believe this is one of the biggest turning points in American, yeah. He, I believe he would have been president. I think so too. 100%. Yeah, yeah, I, I think there’s no question. Yeah, I mean, he had the name, he had the, won the Democratic party, he was a good dude, like it was, like it was kind of a no-brainer. Yeah. So to understand where we’re going, let’s rewind and find out where we started. Have been. That’s right. History meets conspiracy. Okay. So Robert Francis Kennedy was born on November 20th, 1924, in Massachusetts, to Joe and Rose Kennedy. He was one of nine children, and the family lived in a very privileged life.
I mean, she got nine kids, he better be priv-, I know. So they had, they had homes, they had homes in Cape Cod, Florida, the, uh, high-end private schools, they took their boats out for a spin for a few, you know, on the weekends, no big deal, you know, they were rich. Let’s call it what it was, rich [bleep]. Joe, which was Bobby’s father, was a devout C Catholic and a political man that had high ambitions for his children, specifically the Kennedy boys. For the kennedies, it’s the ouse or the castle, nothing in between. His dad would say, you’re dead to me, or the king, that’s right.
His goal was for his sons to follow in his political footsteps. At dinner time, the family would only entertain conversation that centered current events in history, and they had strict expectations set for them. Be at the dinner table five minutes before meal, speak specific languages at the dinner table, either English, Spanish, or fren French, and weigh in every Saturday for calorie checks. Oh wow, are you kidding me? No. Damn, this sounds like a [bleep] life. This is like calorie check, it very strict. That’s why they were all thin, and, and, you know, but I mean, but seriously, how are you checking calories? Well, and no gluten, hey, no gluten.
Can you imagine Joe being, hey Teddy, get a little plump around the cheekies. He’s like Teddy, he, like, T Teddy, you’re, you, your Senate, his career’s over unless you lose those C. He didn’t make weight, he’s like, make weight. Yeah, he’s like, don’t worry, I’m, uh, going to work out on Chap Atic, I’m going for a swim, going for a quick swim here on Chap Atic, a swim, 10 miles back to the hot, lost all the calories. Only conspiracy theorists would know that reference. As a result, Bobby’s priorities were centered around the Democratic party, the Kennedy family, and God, and Spanish and French, cuz that’s what he spoke at the table.
Joe’s, the dad’s favorite of the bunch, was their eldest son Joe Jr., and his least favorite was none other than Bobby, despite his shared values with his father and his commitment to those values. So do you remember this? We, we went over this in the JFK series. Wait, but didn’t, but didn’t Joe Junior died? Yeah, died, war, and then, and Joe’s like, [bleep], I know, he’s like my golden child. But instead of for Joe, Bobby was his mother’s favorite of the boys, she was, she said he was more gentle than any of the others, and he spent a majority of his time with his sisters.
Well, seem like he’s weak. Yeah, but his father believed he was the runt of the litter. So you, you kind of get it, like Bobby was the mom’s favorite and Joe Junr was the dad’s favorite. So may, maybe it got to a situation where it’s like he was, like, didn’t expect anything of him, then he’s, okay, one of friends, like you might, you might just be the savior of this family. Yeah. Bobby said, quote, I was the seven of nine children, when you come from that far down you have to struggle to survive, in a rich family. Yeah, oh, such a struggle, in Cape C-, come on now.
He stuck out amongst his brother, he didn’t do well in school, he was shy, he had a stutter, he had buck teeth, and he struggled to make friends. At one of his school he was even nicknamed Fella, because he struggled to remember new classmate names. Fella, deeming he was the one to be forgotten. Hey, Fella, hey, you, Fell-. Despite his own struggles, he would always stick up for the underdogs at school, he had a unique sense of sympathy because of his own experiences, unlike his other brothers who took on natural abilities. Oh yeah, they were like the [bleep], and like, you know, like JFK is like bone in the chead something, he’s like [bleep] slaying it, and he’s like, over there in the corner, I, I, that’s my brother, they’re like, no he’s not, Fella.
Being overlooked by his father, it actually bothered, by B-, but it pushed him to work harder, and he became diligent and determined. By 1943, Bobby had enlisted in the US Naval Reserve. The following May, he graduated from Milton Academy and was on his way of paving a life for himself. His look on life changed drastically though, when his oldest brother Joe Jr. was killed in August of 94 during a plane explosion in a top secret mission in Europe. You remember that whole story? Yeah, of his, he was doing a an experimental plane. I know, I, that’s what I was like, but why would, like, what, what are they doing, like why are they doing this, like the [bleep].
Yeah, they were devastated. Maybe that’s a conspiracy, like, like I know, some de-, he didn’t pay, and they’re like, we’re taking J. Jun. Bobby greatly looked up to him, and they were all devastated. Bobby’s father lost hope in his eldest son taking the reigns of his political hold, and this is when their father’s focus shifted from Joe Jr. to JFK, that’s right, leaving Bobby again in the shadows. But it didn’t stop Bobby’s eager to do something or to be somebody. Following the end of World War II, Bobby was honorably discharged from the military, despite actually never seeing combat firsthand. Well, good for him, no one wants to see that, [bleep] sucks.
In that same year, his older brother JFK was elected to Congress. Bobby headed back to Harvard to finish his political science degree, and in this time he earned his cherished crimson and white H, playing varsity football. So this is just an accolade of playing football, and you get, you know, you, you’re part of the crew basically. Yeah, he’s like him and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, he barely graduated, he had poor, like a 1.3 GP, he had poor grades, but he still graduated. Well, he, you know, why I graduated, because Jo, his name, well Joe, Joe senior was like, all right, I’ll, I’ll build you a science building, whatever you.
So unlike Hunter Biden, unlike Hunter Biden, his grades were not good enough to get him into Ivy League school. Yeah, so in he couldn’t get into Yale, he couldn’t get into Harvard, so he got into University of Virginia. He said he was at Harvard though. Harvard’s not an Ivy League? Harvard is not it? I thought it is. I think it’s, it’s weird. No, no, he didn’t get into Harvard. No, but you said he was at Harvard. Oh, he’s going for his law degree. Yeah, there the, yeah, obviously Har is Ivy League. I went to University of Cincinnati, like this, that is like the league, that’s the ivy of Ohio.
Yeah, that’s right, the I Ofio. Jorge and I graduated from Hard Knocks. Yeah, I never said I graduated, I just said I went. True. So he found himself enrolled in the law program at University of Virginia, with the understanding that unless he does better work than he did at Harvard, he is most unlikely to succeed in law. His studies began with a rocky start, consisting of less studying and more skiing, golfing, and vacationing, like rich man life. He’s like, yeah, [bleep] it. Yeah, but by his third year he made an impact while serving as the president of the school’s legal, Student Legal Forum, he coordinated presentations by speakers, etc.
He graduated from Law School in June of 51, but arguably this wasn’t his largest achievement of the time. Bobby has begun dating Ethel Skel. Oh my God, the Skakel? That was from Martha Moxley? That’s right. Yeah, so this is, that’s where it all ties, that’s, okay, that’s how they, that’s how they were connected, right? Yeah, so he was actually the first one to get married, so he got married to Ethel’s Skel in 1950, they went in Greenwich, same town that Moxley murder happened, his brother Jack serving as his best man. Bobby and Ethel were each other’s second selves and balanced each other out, he was shy and she was not, he was complicated and she was easygoing, her lightness relieved his heaviness, and they came from similar black backgrounds of privilege, religion, some of the blackground.
Thank you, I’m sor-, yeah, don’t. [Laughter] That, following his graduation, he was unsure of what to do with his law degree, but with a little help of Papa. Joe, he landed his first job with the US Justice Department. So we’re going to pause here and talk about nepotism again. I mean, this is like, class, I’m like, the dude barely graduates both times. Yeah. And then somehow becomes the attorney. Not to say he’s bad, not to say he’s bad or he didn’t deserve it, but hear me out. I’m going to tell you my first job, and I want you to tell me your first job. Your first job?
My first job was working the cash register at Jamba Juice. [bleep] Yeah, no nepotism. Sean, go, for you, what was your first job? My first job was a caddy at the golf course. Oh yeah? And I was getting paid, job, like tips, and then they would like buy me lunch at the, like the, on like the, the middle, like the night after the, the ninth hole, that you get, they gave you lunch, and I’m like, sweet. Yeah, my first job was at TJ Maxx. TJ Maxx? I love it. Yeah, so I guess the point I’m trying to bring up here is, his job was at the US Justice Department after he barely graduated, like, [bleep] his job, he began investigating Soviet spies and developing cases against corrupt officials within the Truman administration.
His first job, think I love the most, he’s like, I have no idea what I’m going to do with my law degree. Justice Department job, like, what the [bleep]. So despite his efforts in trying to do the right thing, he was seen by his peers as privileged. No, I wonder why. I wonder, I can only, I can only imagine why they would think that. Shortly after working for Brooklyn’s US attorney’s office, Bobby made the decision to resign from his position to then start assisting his brother Jack in his upcoming Senate race, despite JFK’s election to Congress years prior. He had a battle ahead of him, and despite JFK’s doubt and his younger brother’s abilities for the campaign job, Papa Joe put in his recommendation.
Well, which means, like, you’re doing it. His recommendations, like, that’s right, you’re doing it, so great approv-. So basically, as the years went on, Papa Joe started to pay more and more attention of the runt of the lit and started recommending him to the jobs and pushing forward his agenda. Have only, have so many sons, that’s right, that’s right. So then he started organizing supporters to wear clothing for, vote for Jack, identifi new supporters for Jack, and got more people to the polls, delivering JFK with 71,000 more votes than his competitor, and reserving him a spot in the Senate of 1952. But not only that, he then became the confidence of running a campaign, he’s like, I can do this.
[bleep] That’s right, a [bleep] law degree, baby, I got this. In 1957, Kennedy found himself working for the Rackets Committee, and organized by the senator Mclen to investigate Teamster activ-, that wasn’t, and the corruption that existed within the union. Bobby was overly confident in his ability to put away the Teamster boss named Jimmy Hofa away, to the point even he said if the indictment didn’t happen he’d jump off the capital, he was so confident in it. By the end of, tri-, capital, by, by the end of the trial, the jury decided Haa was not guilty, and Haa, Haa barked back with a gifted parachute and a note that read, jump Bobby, love it, see, see, at the capital, Bbby.
Yeah, so with all of that, by the late 50s, Bobby had pissed off quite a few people, and the mob is one of them, Jay Edgar Hoover, Jimmy Hofa, the teamsters, the KGB in Russia. How did he piss off Jay Edgar Hoover? He was constantly trying to go against the team series union, and the FBI was like, they’re fine, they’re fine, there’s nothing wrong with them. He was also, he was also trying to say, hey, the FBI is overreaching, they are, they constantly are like, their regulations, or what’s the word, uh, their jurisdiction, like they were just overreaching, overreaching. And who, and, and who? Hoover, obviously, he’s, he was the director of the’s a piece of [bleep], that’s right, that’s right.
So during this time, Bobby took the opportunity to frequent different areas of the world, and he, and I quote, this is how Bobby Kennedy learned, by seeing things with his own eyes, he would take note of good and bad things, like in the Soviet Union or in lowincome housing throughout the US, and identify solutions to try to help humanity. Bobby may have come off harsh in his methods, but at the root of it, he wanted to do right, and he wanted to force the issue, he wanted to press it and say, this is wrong, and let’s change it. Well, I mean, it makes sense, like, you take a, you know, the kid who was like [bleep], the picked on kid and the bullied kid, he’s like, you know what, [bleep] that, justice.
Yeah, it’s like if Bruce Wayne was at dweeb, and then, like, came, like, [bleep], yeah, I’m a vengeance, I’m the night. A little different, I mean rich kid, little different, rich. I mean, it’s kind of, it’s kind of the same. So in 1960, life again once changed for Bobby, as he hesitantly transitioned into the presidential campaign leader for JFK. He didn’t want to leave his career again to engage in family matters, but Papa Joe said, you must do it. Like, P Jo was like, I’m going to make a suggestion, yeah, you decide what you want. Their strategy began with a couple of phone calls that would free civil rights leaders, Martin Luther King, after being arrested for traffic violations.
This popularized Jack by opening up a new sector of black voters, because other politicians weren’t doing much of anything about the civil rights movement. Damn, Joe, Joe was a [bleep], he was a mastermind, was a good chess move right there. Lit, he’s like, he called, like, I know, I told you to arrest him, let him go, it’s all part of the point. This action got the ball rolling in Kennedy’s favor. The two brothers were very different, Jack would cut you off at the knees, Bobby would say, why are we doing this to that guy? Bobby acted as a puppet master behind the scenes, always knowing the next move or the strategy to pick up.
This is why Bobby was central to Jack’s success in the narrow presidential race that put JFK into the office. Man, it’s crazy, he, he became, he was, he was like Mr. underachiever, and then, like, a good for him. So by the foll year, Jack Kennedy put Bobby as the attorney general, and for Bobby, where he could aid in the progress of civil rights movement and fight against the Cuban Missile Crisis. But don’t you think that’s a little bit of a, a reach? Super. And this is, I mean, this is again the point of nepotism. Yeah, I’m like, homie has used his law degre one time, he’s not even a lawyer.
I, I know he’s a lawyer, pass the bar, but he didn’t really practice law. No, that’s what I’m saying, he’s, he used his law degree one time, he, attorney general, so there’s a bit of nepotism. But I mean, I still hold on to the fact that hopefully he was a good guy. It seems like, it seems like he was a good dude, like it seems like he actually had the moral compass and, like, wanted things to be good. Yeah, but you, the Attorney General, but are you qualified? It’s like, that’s another story, like, what was your GPA? It is very true, and he got, they got a lot of flak for it, for being, you know, put there, it’s like making him, we’re going to make him the, the, what is, what is it called, like the Surgeon General?
I know, like, like, wait, what the [bleep], he never did, I, like, you don’t, what, you’re not even a doctor. But in 1963, as we all know, JFK was assassinated while writing in a motorade in Dallas. Yes, we did that episode, five episodes of it. So this sent RFK into a bit of a depression, he lost his brother that had become his closest friend. Bobby stepped down as Attorney General because he didn’t want to serve under LBJ. Well, it’s also cuz he was, I’m going to get fired because I should not be in this job, I should not be doing job, also gna find out, also LBJ and RFK did not get along.
So, oh, Lynon B Johnson. Yeah, so he, he decided to leave and resign. Yeah, yeah, but when he was VP he had no power, so he’s like, [bleep] you, LBJ. It was more like he just lied a little bit on his resume, a little bit, a little bit, they asked him to do something, he’s, I don’t feel comfortable. Yeah, do this, let’s circle back, now that Jack’s, I’m on vacation, that Jack’s con-. Yeah, I know, Arfc, though, then began to scramble because he was unsure of what his future would hold. He didn’t, he wasn’t even sure if he wanted to be in politics. Yeah, right, then Joe was like, excuse me son, I got another suggestion for.
But at a certain point, he decided to run for New York US senator’s seat. His office worked non-stop, to responding to people’s needs and distresses, phones were ringing off the hook, and Bobby’s team worked diligently alongside him to push forward, uh, in the race. And at one point, he made a stop at children’s mental health facilities, where he made the promise to some of the children that he’d take them to get his favorite food, ice cream. His campaign sounds like Joe Biden story, dis-, disapproved, knowing that Bobby couldn’t uphold his promise given his busy schedule. Shortly after, Bobby had his chauffeur take him and the children to a nearby shop where they got their ice cream.
Oh, he’s like, I’m a man of my word, but the point is here that he, you know, he was human, and he wanted to deliver the promises, you know what I mean, that was the, the basic. Yeah, just by the fall of 64, he was elected as New York senator, a man of the people. Yeah, just far richer than a. So Kennedy continued with a good last name. Kennedy continued to rally support. Through his work, by 1967, him and LBJ were bashing heads on different plans regarding the Vietnam War. LB J was hungry for maintaining the war, while Bobby, Bobby proposed a three-point plan of ending the war.
Yeah, that war was pointless, the war served no purpose. The following year, in 68, RFK announced his bid to run for president, and it was going to be up against none other than Lyndon B Johnson. Well, you know, he was going to lose. In his first presidential speech, Bobby took to using the same appeals that Jack had done years prior. He spoke of civil rights, unified parts of the nation like no other, he, he was realistic and hoped that his unification could deliver him a presidential win. He visited lowincome areas of the US, joblessness, inadequate housing, to, like, to fix. He advocated for these communities and placed their needs in the forefront of the missions.
He placed a lot of focus on drawing young voters out, instead of the old kind of crusty people of the 50s. And, and I wonder though, I, I really do wonder, he’s always like hitting all the right points, you know. Yeah, but I feel like everyone does that. I care about the poor. Yeah, I care about these impoverished people, I prob-, the poor blacks and the poor Mexicans, and it’s hard to know who’s true. Yeah, but is it all just part of, like, and then they get in, they’re like, whoops it Daisy. I know, I’ve said it, we’re going to get to it, we’re going to get to it, promise, it’s on the agenda.
So his term two, a second term. So let me tell you, his thing was, he wanted better economic policy and less foreign policy. Oh, okay, okay. He wanted more social policies that consisted of fair housing and better job opportunities. So less dealing with outside of the US and more dealing with internal problems. Still sounds like current, like, we’re going to bring jobs, more jobs, jobs of America, America jobs. Yeah, but at that time it was, it, it was a good message, especially, you know, considering the war and then the civil rights, so, like, it fit, it was really connecting with. I also feel like maybe they, they weren’t all full of [bleep] back then, they legit.
So, following, so the New Hampshire primary was pretty much first, right? It was massive. Lind Johnson literally crashed in, in horrible, crashed and burn, he was the sitting president and he crashed and burned so much so that he withdrew. He’s like, I’m say, I’m not running, like I’m [bleep] out, bro. What happened with Joe Biden this year, New Hampshire? He didn’t, he didn’t, uh, we’re in the middle of it, so I don’t want to, like, no, no, but like, it already happened with the primary. He won with an absentee vote, he wasn’t on the ballot, so, okay, okay. So here’s what happened in New Hampshire.
So, you know, at the bottom of your ballot, you, there’s all the candidates, yeah, and then there’s a blank spot, yeah, like Mickey Mouse. Oh, and then he just [bleep], like, he won based on people filling in his name? No [bleep] way? Yeah, are you kidding me? No. Biden, that’s [bleep], in New Hampshire, Live Free or Die, they were picking this guy, like, what the, we’re in the middle of this, so I don’t want to, like, you know, we’re, I me, it’s kind of, who knows what’s going to happen, it’s kind. Okay, so he completely lost in the New Hampshire primary, right? So LBJ with, withdrew from the race totally, but Bobby still faced two other competitors in the Democratic nomin-, it wasn’t like an instant, instant win, like, so he was up against Senator Mccarth, and VP, who was the VP at the time, Hubert Humphrey.
Bobby, on April 4th, 1968, Bobby delivered an impromptu speech following the death of MLK. “I have some very sad news for all of you, and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis. Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings, he died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it’s perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. For those of you who are black, considering the evidence, evidently is that there were white people who are responsible, you can be filled with bitterness and with hatred and a desire for revenge.
We can move in that direction as a country, and greater polarization, black people amongst blacks and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand and to comprehend, and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion, and love for the those of you who are black and are attempted to fill with, be filled with hatred and mistrust, of the injustice of such an act against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling.
I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man. But we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond, these rather difficult times. My favorite poem, I, my favorite poet was Escalus, and he once wrote: even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God. What we need in the United States is not division, what we need in the United States is not hatred, what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times, we’ve had difficult times in the past, but we, and we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence, it is not the end of lawlessness, and it’s not the end of disorder, but the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land with, and what, dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago, to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world.
Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people. Thank you very much.” It was a tight race, and people sat on the edge of their seats, and it was all about the California primary, and the huge primary that would propel the winning competitor forward into the presidential race. Now, many thought that whoever won the Democratic primary, yeah, would be essentially shoe in, yeah, Sho, for the president, because everybody was done with LBJ and Nixon. Oh my God, everyone hated Nixon, it was just not a, yeah, that’s right. So Bobby and his campaign team were sat eagerly waiting to hear the results, and finally those results came in, Bobby won California with 46% of the vote.
D-, if you win California, cuz since California has the most electoral votes of any, it’s like you’re kind of like, it’s like you’re the man. So the entire Democratic party, and, and the United States was ecstatic. Yeah, uh, jubilee, uh, uh, happiness, like ju-, very ex-. Yeah, like jubilant, like, very, never heard of that, okay. Yeah, but what would happen hours after the win would leave the nation realing, and the change of history happened, which was, that’s when she was murdered, and so here we are. No, I mean, I think that it’s, it’s kind of interesting to, to think about, kind of his, his path, how he kind of weasel his way, I want to say, I want to say weasel, weas-, wrong, I’m, want to say, Joe Senor is, Joe senior weasel his way kind of in, because he, it seems like he was an underachiever, like this underachiever, and then managed to obviously be good at campaigning for his brother.
And then somehow his brother’s like, yeah, you’d be a great attorney general because you have a law degree that you’ve never used, and this would be perfect. I think he was more of, like, an activist type kind of guy, you know, like he could have been like a great, like, um, like a pro bono lawyer guy, yeah, like I’m going to take on your shitty case, cuz, you know, I care about you. But I feel like he almost was, I feel like the stage was too big for him. Yeah, he got thrust into a situation where he shouldn’t have actually been in. I agree with that, and, and then he was gonna win, and the thing is, he was gonna win, he was gonna win, and it was like, to win, but he pissed off too many people.
I think that, I think it spe-, specifically the mob, I, I think that the mob probably has a big hand, probably has a very large hand, yeah, in, in this, totally. I mean, we’ll find out more, yeah, we’re going to get into it more, more on episode two and three, stay tuned. No, but I, I do, I do think that was cool, cuz I, there’s, there’s a lot of that I didn’t know, I didn’t really realize how much. Yeah, you know, I just knew, you know, obviously he got, he got killed, and, and he, you know, obviously was attorney general, and he was a good dude, and I mean, supposedly, based on our other evidence, he might have also been Mar in Mon-.
I mean, supposedly, based on our other episodes of the Marilyn Monroe murder, it’s, it’s so funny how, like, all these episodes, like, we’ve done, and they talked about the Skic, the Maryland, I mean, they all are regarding the Kennedy. So isn’t it wild? Yeah, there’s a lot of, the Kennedy is like the conspiracy family. I mean, they. Give us unlimited content. I know, like. And now on episode 79. It’s true, it’s true. But let me ask you some questions about this, because I feel the Democratic party then is not what it is. Oh dude, I, I fully agree. Even the Republican party. Yeah, the Republican part-, I feel like both of them are just very extremists now.
You know, dude, I’m from full agreement with, I feel like the Democratic party of, of the 60s and 70s was like, [bleep], I would have, I would have, dude. 100. I know you would have. No, but I would have been, I would have been fully in support of the Democratic party back then. 100%, like fully on board, like they were actually, was really a gun issue? No, no, I think it was more, at that time it seemed, it seemed like the Republican party was more government control, and then the Democratic party was like power of the people. Mhm. Yeah, and then now it’s like the movement I could have gotten more behind.
Now it almost seems, it almost seems like, it almost seems like it’s flipped. And so now it’s like the Democratic party appears to be more, let the government take care of you. Yeah, government, government, government, we got you back. Yeah, and then now the Republican part is more, now more, [bleep] America, freedom, you, you, [bleep], take control, got your freedoms, and we don’t want to step on those. And, but, but they are both, like, like Cory said, I think they are both very radicalized, extreme. It’s to the point where people literally hate other people for theirl, like, that’s when, that’s when you know it’s not at a good point, when literally people hate another person because of their, their party affiliation.
Like, how, well, how could you hate somebody just because. Do you think it was like that? Do you think it was like that before Trump, as far as like people hating on each other just for your political party? Well, there was a semblance of it with Obama, as bad though? I think not bad. No, no, no, but not, there was a semblance of hope with Obama, wasn’t there? Well, sure, everyone believed. Yeah, of like, cuz we were right off the cusp of 911, and, in the, we didn’t actually have the financial decline until Obama. Well, yeah, was 2008. It was more, just, just, we’re done with Bush.
I, I think everyone was like, oh my God, we’ve been in Iraq for, f-, like [bleep] Afghanistan and Iraq for so long. But I think that, that’s why, that, that’s the only reason why I ever believed that, that election, the, the 2020 election was [bleep], is because there’s no way in any universe that Joe Biden got more votes than, than Barack Obama. Barack Obama was like the [bleep], the great, like, savior of. Wait a minute, what are you talking about, Joe Biden wasn’t up against, no, yeah, Obama? No, no, no, saying Trump. Oh, you said OB-. No, I didn’t. No, Joe Biden got more votes than Obama got.
Oh, back that. Oh, in comparison. So, so my point is, like, that’s, what, the only thing that made me be like, this might be [bleep], because you take the, arguably, one of the most charismatic men you’re who’s ever lived, and literally the entire country was like, okay, this guy might be the [bleep], like he actually might be real, and everyone’s like, you know what, I’m actually down. And I could be wrong, but I’m sure, I’m pretty sure that Obama brought out the black vote and the Mexican vote, dude. Yeah, in more, more ways than, than not. Obama, mean, dude, when Obama ran, dude, I’m telling you, he had both sides being like, this guy’s good.
I actually, they’re like, you know what, maybe he’s right, like maybe, maybe he’s the one. Like he’s like, is, is the population didn’t increase that much? No dude, it’s impossible. Like I don’t, cuz that’s what they, they attributed to is just population increasing. Well, either that, or just, like, they attribute to, like, oh, but the thing that, that doesn’t make any sense, cuz I get it, people will vote against Trump because they don’t like him, that’s fine, but the fact that Trump got 75 million votes or something, and then Biden got 80 million, I was like, okay, 88, I think, or something, like it was crazy.
I’m sorry, but I mean, I know it doesn’t make any sense, because I’m telling you, like, Obama was the best [bleep] Democratic candidate that they’ve had in 30 years. And how many votes did he get, do you know? He got, I think he got like 6-, uh, 68, or, or something like that. 70? Wow, yeah, so that’s a, me, I’m like, because, I’m sorry, but, but that dude’s charismatic as [bleep], he’s a great speaker, [bleep] amazing speaker. Let me, let me, let me, let me throw out a scenario. M-, yeah, okay, so this happened, so RFK died. Yes, facts. Yeah, and he, or the primary, or so we believe, so, so RFK won the Democratic primary, yeah, he would be the president.
100%. You know who won and said, like, who became the president? No, actually, I don’t. Nixon, the Republican candidate. Yeah, so what course would have America have taken if, if they didn’t have water gate, if he didn’t die, you know what I mean. I say, I think it’s a wild moment in our, that, cu-, we had Vietnam, we had Nixon in the Watergate, yeah, situation, he was reelected, dude. I know, amazing, he won four, and then he was reelected for two, for four more, but then he resigned. No, but he got reelected four more, but he also got the majority of the vote, he had, he had like 90% of the vote, it was like ridiculous.
It was. But I also think that, like, from, from a perspective of, and, and which is why, like, secretly, I kind of like Nixon, is because he’s, he’s, no, because he was so overt, he was such a prick that he didn’t care. He wasn’t trying, he wasn’t trying to, like, sugar Cod it and beti-. Yeah, he wasn’t a politician, he was like, I’m a [bleep], he, like, this, what I’m [bleep] doing, [bleep], [bleep] you. And that’s, I like, I kind of respect that, I kind of respect you for being, that’s what a lot, like Trump, he’s [bleep]. Yeah, are you saying Trump and Nixon are similar?
[bleep], yeah, they are, dude, they’re totally similar, they’re totally similar. Like I just think it’s weird, Trump literally told somebody who would slap them in the [bleep], like straight up, dude, I’m like, come on, he literally said that. Think, I think it’s a strange exercise, to, to go, like, you know, we went that path, and all of a sudden we were, we were on the path of Robert Kennedy, and then it went Nixon. Yeah, and then all through the 70s was Nixon and Watergate scandal, and all that, you know what I mean, and then it all led to actually a major crash in the 80s, there was a major recession in the 80s.
True. Yeah, you know what I mean. And anyways, it’s just an interesting Divergent of America. I mean, there’s also, like, there’s also, is, is a thing about, I mean, recessions are very cyclical, I mean, they are, and they almost mathematically proven, and that’s why, obviously, so many people made money off of 2008, because they were like, oh, writing’s on the wall. Yeah, so it’s like, it’s hard, it’s really easy to blame, and, I, a single person, or whatever, yeah, not whoever takes office, and you’re like, oh, you’re [bleep], you know, because it’s because, is there’s much, like, the president is a very important post, you know, the president doesn’t control the economy, you know, the economy is the economy itself.
And so it’s hard to blame the president, even, like, even now, it’s, you know, obiously, like, the gas prices, and everyone, it’s really easy to blame Biden, it’s like, go, Biden’s fault. I mean, obviously Biden is a factor, but not necessarily is he the sole reason why it’s the way it is. Yeah, but like, if a, if a company’s not doing good, you’re going after the CE-. Exactly, I understand that, and I, and that’s, that’s a great, that’s actually spectacular point, right? But my point is, it’s really easy to blame people, the blame the one who, who’s quote unquote in charge, even though, let’s be honest, the president really isn’t in charge, charge, if you look at all the rules and all the, the bills that get passed, and all the, the things that actually change, are actually done in the Senate and Congress.
That’s the good thing about America, we’re not a dictatorship, it’s not, he, he doesn’t have the ability to rule, and, and, and correct. Yeah, and then just, you know, establish La Orever. You know what I think the real problem is? Why does the president have a term limit but Senators don’t, and Congressman don’t? Oh, that’s [bleep], that’s another episod-. Limit? Oh, really, it just be forever, and who’s voting on the bills that actually change our lives, the president isn’t, right? That’s what I’m saying, your, your representatives, are your representative, they represent you. Yeah, and meanwhile, they’re, were, meanwhile, NY Pelosi is worth like $700 million, and her husband happens to make the, he’s the, he’s the best financial wizard since, since the Oracle of Omaha, like, get the [bleep] out of here, bro, like [bleep] off, it’s such [bleep].
That’s why, I, I think the real corruption, I think the real corruption is in the Senate and the Congress. Interesting, not the president. Like, I don’t think, I don’t think Biden, I don’t think Biden’s running, I don’t think Biden’s run the show, I don’t think Biden, we give them too much credit, is basically, or the president, we, no, because, give too credit, because the, the president is like, the president’s, imagine, like a really, a really high profile actor, you imagine, like Brad Pit, all right, and then the movie sucks, but they’re like, [bleep] Brad Pit, but, like, the director’s like the back, like, I wrote the script, like I wrote the script and I directed this.
Sorry. Yeah, I mean, that’s a fair point, that, that, that’s a good point, but again, it all starts with, you know, him. The policy that he’s trying to drive. So even in companies, even in companies, we always, we always run it up to the, to the boss, right? True, right? But you want to know, you want to know the best point ever. So we’re, we’re in a Democratic Republic, that’s Democratic Republ-, um, so who makes the decision? The people. But the people don’t actually make the decision, the people’s representatives make the decision. Who are the people’s representatives? Your senators and your congressmen. Yeah, so who makes the decision in this country?
The senators and the congressmen, because they’re, they are the collective vote of the people they represent, that are getting lobbied by people like Hun and Biden. Exactly, dude. True, you’re not wrong, exactly. Have you ever wondered why every bill is roughly 7,000 pages, and, and you got, you got 10 minutes to? No, they have, they, they literally have like 6 hours to read through it. I’m like, you know, on an audio book, that would be like seven days of, of [bleep] audio book nonstop. No, but, like, see, that’s, that’s to me, that the real corruption is in those people, because they are representing your votes, they, representing your power, your congressmen and your senators.
Arees, those vo s happen on like Saturday at like 2 a.m., not even Saturday, like a Tuesday night, like, like a [bleep], like you’re like asleep, you’re like, I work in the morning, and then, like, they’re like surprised the bill was passed, Patriot Act. Yeah, and you’re, Patri-, Patriot Act, dude, the Patriot Act is probably the most [bleep] up, one of the most [bleep] up piece of legislations that’s ever existed. All I have to do is be like, you’re a terrorist, and then you have no rights, very similar to the 60s, communism hunt, hunt the secret words, National Security. I know, if, if you’re suspected of commun-, like, shoot you on site.
Well, so I mean, what we’re going to do here is, this is kind of like learning about RFK and learning about, you know, his life, and, and, and I know it was a very small snapshot, and there’s lots of documentaries out there that you should check out. Oh, totally, yeah, 100%. And learn about his life, because, you know, I’ve, I’ve fallen in love with this guy, to be frank, like if you really watch all the documentaries, I, I mean, aside from his, uh, side sexual proclivities. That’s why Eric fell in love with his stuff. No, what he did, some of it is just so moving, and so it’s so wonderful, and I, and I really enjoy it.
So, if, if you have a chance, go check out the documentaries about his life. We try to do it in a very, very small amount of, amount of time, yeah, very small amount of time. And that way we could build up to what happened with the murder, because the next two episodes are going to be about the night, and about the murder. And murder, yeah, you notice we said the, the shot behind the ear, you know what I mean. Well, the official report is that he was shot from in front. Mhm. So how do you get shot in the ear? It’s, it’s, it’s one, it’s like they bent, the bent the bullet, the, another, another magic buet, second magic bullet happened.
Basically Le Har from the balcony. Yes, exactly. So anyway, so that’s, that’s why we did this, is because we wanted to tell you a little bit about the story of RFK, and I also wanted to get into it about my supreme, extreme distrust of the govern-, if you haven’t noticed by yet. Yeah, exactly. And not to mention the fact that RFK Jr. is a staunch believer that the CIA killed his dad. Mhm. Oh yeah, you know he’s very public about it, very, very. Yeah, and so it’s gota, it’s got to lend some, some legitimacy to it, right? I mean, just like when we did MLK, MLK’s family is like, you got to believe them, what I mean, a little bit, at least you have to be open to hearing the discussion.
Of course, they literally, they were advocating for the person who got convicted, to, not that he wasn’t the killer, exactly. And, like, if it’s, if that’s your dad, and you’re die hard that, that dude didn’t kill your dad, I mean, you got to be on to something. No, seriously, cuz you’d want blood. I mean, you, you want, you want vengeance, and, like, you want justice. Yeah, yeah. Before we jump off, I got to tell you guys to don’t forget to subscribe, make sure you follow us on social media. That’s right. And if you didn’t know, we have a patreon. And you know, I’m so happy you brought this up, we’re actually going to be opening our Discord to all, to all people, all listeners.
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