Hey guys, welcome back to the conspiracy podcast. We got the, uh, Three Amigos back in the action, back again. What up, everybody. Uh, big shout out to our man over on the side. He’s back, he’s back in the saddle. Say hi to every… I hit the fresh cut look, [bleep]. I look like a bomb. God, Eric looks like a pirate. Oh, it’s good to have you back, buddy. Yeah, it’s good to be back, man. Missed it. Been a little too long for me, get the itch. Yeah, we did our best to try to, like, Bridge things over, and you know, probably, we’ll probably get terrible, I guarantee, especially because we were talking about some, you know, Tech subject, so we’re get nuked.

Uh, so, uh, what we’re going to do tonight, though, is, if you have been listening to us for a while, you’ll know that our first episode that we ever did was the… M, that we ever published, that we ever, correct. True. But it’s also the most popular one, right? That’s right, it’s our number one listen to episode. That we, man, it was, we re listened to it, it was terrible. Terrible, so bad. Terrible. It was actually terrible. Terrible. So, uh, the sound quality was, I love the, the little arguments you had. We were just yelling at each other, and it was like, called, I’m pretty sure I called you both children at one point, cuz we were like arguing about, uh, I think it was about like VHS tapes in space or something along those lines.

Children. ID, you were green. So what we decided to do was a followup, and a part two, and this is, so this is the moonlanding hoax, or, uh, potential ho, potential ho, possi, maybe, part two. So, uh, as always, if you have not listened to episode one, highly recommend, go all the way down, all the way down. What is that, 18 months ago? Well, what you can do, if you, you just go, like, sort by oldest. Yeah, there you go, that’s a faster way. Oh, I didn’t know you could do that. Oh yeah, I was scrolling. I actually, I was, I was searching. I went, I went, while I was doing on the desktop, so easy, easy.

So in part one, we went over the history of the Mercury program, The Gemini program, and the Apollo programs. Yeah, which I was very astounded, there were so many programs. I know, the [bleep] me, and were very convinced that, one moon or two moon, possible two, maybe. So what we’re going to do, we’re not going to go over those programs again, so go back, like we said, go back, listen to those, uh, about the history of those programs. And tonight’s episode, we’re going to go over the main arguments and conspiracy theories, um, and see if that, we, if we can debunk those, like, a couple of that we missed, or correct, we missed them and we just argued, they argued, inantly about like a, a photo.

Yes, exactly. So I was like, okay, good, so Rogan has gone over all of these different things, he’s done like seven episodes just on the moonland. Really? Yeah, I didn’t know that. Okay. And, um, and there’s, it kind of persists, and I was like, okay, well, we didn’t touch on everything. Nail it. Yeah, and we didn’t nail it in, we’ solved quite a few. Yeah, yeah, so I was like, okay, let’s see if we can solve, uh, some of the main things that keep, to, we were like baby podcasters back then, we didn’t know what we doing. Know, we should, we should actually put, we should take photos of, like, the equipment we used.

Oh, it was like, we SP up some of the old photos, it looks like the moon landing. I mean, we the same Tech. Yeah, you see the little thing, battery, like, used to, used to run out of battery. Yeah, you to crank it, flash. Yeah, uh, anyway, so I know, I know Rogan has gone over this, and you know, that sort of thing, but you know. Yeah, exactly, top World. Okay, so a lot of this, yeah, so a lot of this stuff is going to be taken from, uh, some of the transcripts of Rogan’s episodes and who he interviewed. I know, he’s got the good guest as well.

I know, I mean, you know, when you got that, when you get that big money, you know, you got, you got the, the things. I had Buzz Aldren on the podcast. Also, in addition to that, I, I took some of the episod, or some of the topics we went over in the episode, MH, and if we didn’t find a conclusion to them, we’re gonna bring them back, we’re gonna rebre. Yes, exactly. So, uh, there you go, take it for, as you know, we’ll see how it goes. Okay, so, uh, the first part is, in the last episode we went over the, no stars in the sky.

Oh, that’s what we were fighting about, and that was a good 20 minutes. Go, like, well, during the day. Yeah, and then I’ll go to the beach with you, if you want to go to the beach and La. Okay, getting re angry. So I, I researched why, like, from a scientific, scientific Viewpoint, of why I was right, of course. You agreed with a poor, like, shut up. He did, I know, one of the very few times. So the point being is, why are there no, here, here is the concept, why are there no stars in the sky of the photos taken on the Moon? Yeah, remember that whole, yeah, like, the background is just pitch black.

Yeah, just black. Uh, and so I looked into it, and the, the, this is what I found out. The absence of stars in the moon landing photos is due to the camera exposure settings used by the astronauts. The surface of the Moon, illuminated by the sun, was extremely bright. Oh, so they had, like, dumb it, the [bleep] down. That’s right. As were the astronaut suits and the lunar module, to capture these bright objects clearly, the cameras had to be set with a fast shutter speed and low sensitivity to light. Okay, otherwise it would be, like, this meant that the faint light from the Stars wasn’t picked up in the photos, as it was too dim compared to the brightly lit lunar surface.

Essentially, the cameras were optimized to photograph the well-lit moon, not much the Stars. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. The stars were still there, they didn’t disappear. I mean, that doesn’t make sense, though, from the perspective, like, if something is so bright, you have to, like, adjust, like, off our phones adjust for us, and like, they’ll, or, like, it, it’s happened the opposite. Like, if you, if you stand in front of a window where the sun’s, like, coming in too much, and you take a picture of that person, and the, the person’s black, everything else is like super white, you know. And, and it’s like, for example, you, like, with our phones nowadays, like I said, it auto adjusts, like, if I take a picture in the deck, it, it puts exposure so, like, so high, so it’s all, potential light is getting sucked into the lens.

So, like, a photo may look like it’s not, at, at night, but it’s so good, it, like, just, like, opening up the lens, like, here, give us all the light possible. Yeah, that’s right, so there you go, debunked. Uh, I was right and they were wrong. One of Sean’s, one, one of Sean’s argument in the last one, is he kept talking about how he, how is it possible to take a picture in, h, uh, we can move on. No, no, no, Sean, I’m not explaining, I just want to move on. Okay, we’re moving on. Okay, so, uh, one of the bigger arguments is that the destruction of data in technology.

Oh yeah, there, there’s no, like, wasn’t there, like, yeah, well, I’ll like get into it, but there’s even astronauts who said that, uh, and we won’t go to names because they’re closely related to myself, but that the technology was lost. Oh yeah, 100%, yeah. And, um, there’s Clips, if you watch, like, sometimes you, if you’re like, like, obviously the algo is like giving me all the conspiracy [bleep], because, like, all I scroll through, of course, but there’s a lot of videos where they’re like, yeah, you know, if we can get to, if we can do, like, a lot of astronauts saying, like, things like that, like, you know, hey, if we can get out of orbit, or get out, like, like, making it seem like they can’t do it again.

And that’s, it is kind of odd, where they’re like, yeah, you know, if we can, if we can get at of orbit again, or some, like, I, exactly what they’re saying, but it’s on the, on the lines of, like, they can’t do it anymore. Right, right. So Rogan had a guest, uh, named Bart Cel, and they argued that the na, that NASA destroyed the original Telemetry data, schematics. Did I say that wrong? Telemetry. Telemetry data. Telemetry. Telemetry data. Yeah, yeah, schematics and videotapes. Now, uh, H is going to tell you a little bit about what Telemetry is and what it means. So Telemetry data, what it refers to, is the information that you’re collecting remotely and automatically, and then you’re transmitting it from a device or a system to a central, to another, like, another location, to a central location.

Houston. Houston, exactly. And it says that it’s often for monitoring, analysis, and management purposes, and the data typically includes, you know, things like measurement or statuses of various parameters, like temperature, or the pressure, speed, the position, you know, all that sort of stuff. So basically it’s all the data, like, what was happening on the, on the way there, and you can imagine how important that is when you’re traveling through space. Yes, to know, like, what worked, we should do that again, like, what didn’t work. We’re hou, Houston, we don’t, we’re good, great, awesome. Yeah, uh, so they claim, so Bart and Rogan, they claim that it was such a Monumental achievement of mankind.

Oh, for sure. That to lose that data would be, that’s ridiculous. Absurd. Yeah, it’s like, it’s like imagine, like, losing the guy creates The first computer, and the rul, like, what, and they’re like, whoops, itday forgot how to make that [bleep]. So, uh, pulling up the information about what that really means, uh, was that, that, that the notion that NASA destroyed the technology to go to the Moon is not totally accurate. Which is, NASA didn’t destroy it, but rather they repurposed it and retired the hardware, and then the hardware that went, that took them to the Moon, became absolete. And so then you go on and you progress through technology, and then the old technology just doesn’t, isn’t used.

So there’s nobody, but technology doesn’t progress, but actual progress, I, it has to get better, of progress transfer over, like the data. Well, here’s, like, a parallel, it progressed, but reg, let me just tell you a parallel, progress backwards, progressed into the, let me just tell you a parallel. So you remember in like the 70s where they had computers, and it was like it filled the entire room. Yeah, so the guy who maybe, uh, handles your IT at your company wouldn’t know how to run that system. But the thing is, like, they’re not talking about how to run it, they’re talking about the data. Yeah, data.

Uh, why would, why would they, maybe, maybe. Okay, imagine this, imagine this, okay, another practical example. Let’s say you’re, um, okay, let’s say, like, your, your company uses a particular, like, um, like, like a Erp software, and they house all, like, their sales, or whatever, the, whatever the [bleep], CRM, Erp, whatever you use. So they’re like, okay, cool, we’re going to be migrating to a new one. Mhm. We’re going to migrate over without any of the data. Yeah, start. So it’s like, hey, there’s a, this, this system’s obsolete, we have a new amazing system, but we’re just not going to bring any of the data over from the old one, and we’re going to be like, [bleep] makes no sense, I don’t know how to use that old system, but the data is still sitting there.

Well, I mean, I get what you’re saying, but it’s like, add 40 years, and, like, no human was alive anymore. But, what, no, no, meaning, like, like, you, you’re saying, like, the dat wasn’t there, but then all of a sudden, if you add 40 years into the timeline, there’s no human that is working there anymore. No, there’s no, there’s no alive person. You’re making it seem like NASA, like, to stop doing anything for 40 years, like the lights off. I mean, that’s the argument. Right, there’s no argument there, paying salaries. No, we didn’t go back to the Moon, we went to the moon in 72, that was the last time.

And then, but they were still shooting rockets and [bleep], like, get the data. Like, the [bleep]. True. Yeah, true. So the idea, though, is that they repurposed, [bleep], a challenger, [bleep] mission, they retired the hardware and it became absolete. The reason is the te, Telemetry, I don’t know why I, the Telemetry data and tapes were not preserved in some cases, and it was due to budgetary constraints, and the fact that at the time the data was not seen, seen as being historically important. Oh my, it’s not important at the time? Literally, it was literally every American, this is the most important thing, not even kidding.

And this is from NASA, many of the recordings were taped over to save the money. Did you record over my VA, all over my, sorry, babe, I record over the mash tapes. Like, also, like, the budget restraints were that big, they couldn’t afford, like, more, like, reuse, reuse the memory cards. So import the technology of the 60s obviously evolved, in modern technology could easily replicate or surpass it, and it was used in the Apollo missions. But the point being is, is that that’s the explanation, is that, look, I, I, I don’t like that, I don’t buy it. I get, I get the explanation, I definitely think it’s [bleep].

Yeah, okay, I think that they encountered some sort of life forms up there, and they were like, you [bleep], I bet you best not, give you one, one CH. Well, isn’t that, like, weird, how, like, remember, like, it was the, the feed cut for like 17 minutes or something? Oh yeah, yeah, and they come back, we’re like, we’re leaving, we, we are leaving, Eagle is leaving. Yep, so I think that they probably encountered some sort of, I’m getting a little jump with the gun here, but this is, we’re Deming this, the theories, yeah, each one. But I think that they, that they encountered some sort of life forms or something there, and they were, anomaly, and they were like, don’t you Fu, don’t [bleep] come back, like, destroy your [bleep], make it so you can’t come back, like, we’ll let you be, we’ll let you leave.

So they just, they just happen to speak English? I’m not saying they’re speaking English, I’m not saying Apollo, Apollo, like, how do you say, like, get the [bleep] out of here. No, but, no, I obviously, if there’s some sort of advanced speech, that you don’t necessarily need to communicate with that, word, like, show them your guns, and, like, they’re like, oh, right, we’re out of here. Imagine, like, sending a concept, like, if you’re an advanced species, why don’t you just send a concept of, like, get the [bleep] out of here. Do you think there’s species that can just send Concepts? 100%. For, I mean, I think, I think all they had to do is, like, show them some sort of, like, gun, weapon.

No, I’m not disagreeing with you, you, I’m just saying, that’s wild. Have you ever had a scenario, like, where, like, your wife gives you a look and you get, like, a full, like, a full 3D, but that’s your wife that you’ve known for so long, so you, that’s why you, that’s why you get the concept. No, but I’m saying, if, if that can happen, if you can get that concept, like, a full, like, exactly what she needs, like, uh, yeah, food now, [bleep], and this is what I want, like, this whole thing, you get this whole thing, you’re like, oh, [bleep], yes, like, if you an advanced species, why couldn’t they do the same thing, cuz they’re, they’re far more advanced than us.

Very true. You know, or, like, maybe that’s the way that they communicate. I’m saying I’ve experienced that type of communication, where it’s literally just, there’s no [bleep] words, and I get, parag, just a thought, I get a paragraph of [bleep] data, I’m like, oh, [bleep], okay. Yeah, so I’m saying, it’s, why wouldn’t it? Yeah, I actually love that concept, boom, there you go, and you’re like, oh, [bleep], got, get the [bleep] out of here. You, you know, you know, you know them so well that you can do it, but, you know, hey, advanced species, if they’re on the [bleep] Moon, and, you know, I’m not got to put that past him.

Okay, why haven’t we seen him? We have, Eric’s like, HD [bleep], no, UFOs aren’t real cuz, like, why doesn’t, like, like, you know, [bleep], they, like, hide On the Dark Side of the Moon, like, [bleep], with trans, Transformers, and they’re like hiding with the Decepticons. I mean, why is there such a stigma about the Dark Side of the Moon, why is, why, why are we so stuck on it, and why did the Pentagon, uh, confirm that there is UFOs? Yeah, Eric. Oh God, I hate you guys so much. It’s a fact, it’s a, it’s, I know, you just don’t want to believe it. Yeah, but I like you, but I, I hate you so much, like, uh, next recording.

I’m sick, sorry, I’m not going to make it on my own vac. Uh, okay, next one is the visual inconsistencies in footage and photos, and now we did touch on, on Stars, we did the Stars, we did FL, now there’s the other part. Yeah, we did the flag already, and there’s the other part, which is the Shadows. Oh yeah, we didn’t, right, we didn’t really touch on the Shadows. Yeah, so, um, so in a lot of the podcast, and, like, Candace Owen kind of goes into that, the shadows, and we couldn’t get through the belt, and, you know, that sort of thing, and so, so we’re going to kind of go over her, her, uh, points.

Yeah, yeah, and, um, and also Rogan brought it up in one of his episodes, and it was the inconsistency in the lighting and shadows in the Apollo mission, in the photos, in the video, they highlighted the issues, like non-parallel Shadows, where some theorists claim that could only be produced by Studio lighting, and not by the Sun. How the [bleep] do they know, though? So, oh, I know, the Sun and angles, I mean, I mean, how do you really know what, there, like, a [bleep] space. But the idea would be, that is that the sun’s in a certain location, and then the shadow should only be on this side, but in the photos, the Shadows were kind of everywhere.

Well, here’s the thing, also, it’s like, okay, here’s the thing, is, like, for, for where we, like, it’s a little different, like, on Earth, because, like, you have an atmosphere, and you have, like, it doesn’t feel like you’re in motion. But that’s right, you know, I feel like you’re on a much smaller thing, there’s no atmosphere, there’s not, like, there’s no, there doesn’t have to go through any, it’s not going through clouds, it’s not going through [bleep] protective, radio, like, you know, there’s no, no, but, but the concept is the same. Okay, if you have something here, and you put a light in front of it, the shadow is going to be over here, totally, right, and if you, you know, if you move it, the shadow moves, right, but it’s going to be behind it.

But we don’t know the concept of space, I’m say, space is a variable, it’s like, have you ever been on the moon, like, taking selfies, I don’t know what the lighting, like, I don’t know how it’s going to work. So I’m saying, like, it is so hard to get that Instagram angle up there. Thing, like, they even said before, it’s like, the, the surface of the Moon is white, so it’s reflecting light. And so it’s like the surface is so bright, their suits are all white, so bright. I think, is, is it possible for little, like, reflective anomalies to happen? You know, I’m saying, it’s possible, like, imagine, take, like, doing it, like, in a, a bunch of mirrors around you, and you’re like, w, the Shadows aren’t right.

I mean, the point being is, also, I don’t think we would take Candace Owens, I mean, she has no, like, K, she’s not a physicist, she also has the same amount of, like, the same amount of, like, clout that we, except for, like, people like her more. I know, yeah, I’m just saying, like, even though, like, I don’t, like, I’m, yeah, no, no, Sean’s on the right track, which is, like, if you look at it from a physics standpoint, we don’t know. Yeah, we don’t know. And, you know, uh, there’s Shadows on the moon appear non-parallel due to the uneven surface, uh, which causes, uh, a shadow in different directions.

It’s also, too, like a weird thing is that, like, I don’t know if it makes a difference or not, but, like, the Moon, it, the moon doesn’t rotate. The Moon is stationary. Yeah, the Moon is stationary in orbit, so it does, it stays, that’s why you only see one face of the Moon, that’s why there’s the Dark Side of the Moon that never gets light, it’s, it doesn’t rotate. Right, whereas the Earth rotates. I don’t know if that has effect. I don’t know, I mean, I’m, I’m not, I’m a [bleep] scientist. We’re, we’re using our data based on Earth. Yeah, and our only reference point is, like, maybe the, maybe the Shadows on Jupiter are like [bleep] wild, we have no idea.

So, I, I guess the point of the whole thing is that we just don’t know, we don’t know, we don’t know, what, that’s fair, you don’t know, but, like, the concept is still the concept, [bleep], shadow is a shadow casted by a light shining on you, it’s going to be behind you. There’s absolutely no physical way that, that I can think of, that the shadow is going to be on the side or in the front. But here’s the thing, it’s like, you had a con, you, you have a concept of, like, temperature, and you’re like, hell yeah, but then, like, let’s say you go to space and you’re like, wow, your concept of temperature shattered, cuz it’s -2 [bleep] 100°, and you’re like, what, like, the Sun’s shining on me, why am I not warm?

That’s measurable, and that is, uh, understandable, that the, the temperature would be so much lower up there. It’s understandable, how, it, understandable, just based on, uh, the episode number one, go back and listen to it. I love the plug, I love the plug, that was like the greatest, no, go back to one, [bleep], but we also don’t know, we don’t know the reflection of, like, the surface. Yeah, there’s a lot of fact, there’s, there’s just factors that can see, we just don’t know. Yeah, we don’t know, the mountain, [bleep], reflection of the sun into, like, you know what I mean, maybe there’s a crater, and, or a mountain, Sea of Tranquility, you know, there’s [bleep] mountains that are bigger than the, the, what’s the big one here, mever, there you go, what’s the big one on this one, we’re on Earth.

One, one, but there’s Reflections that we don’t know, and we don’t know about it, and we don’t know anything about it, so it’s, it’s kind of like physics 5,000 years ago, when you look at some of these pictures, unless, unless you have any other pictures that we’re talking about, but we’re, you know, these are basically, these are the ones. So, like, the Shadows all kind of point in the right direction, there’s not freaking mountains right next to them that you can see. Oh my God, Eric, are we in a cord? I know, a picture of this moment, anyways. Yeah, whatever, I mean, Ian, I think, yeah, I mean, we know that hor is wrong based on what we’ve learned.

Yeah, based on the data, the data shows that hor is always wrong. Okay, so the next, um, item on this, this list, is the suspicious behavior of astronauts. So we never talked about this in, in, in episode one enough. We didn’t, while they’re on the moon, or you saying, like, afterwards, afterward, afterwards, PR conferences. So, and this is from one of Rogan’s things, but also everybody who’s researched it knows that there were postm, mission interviews of the astronauts, specifically, um, um, buzz, buzz, and, U, and Neil Armstrong. Yeah, not the guy who was like in the [bleep], the guy got left behind. Po, and it was noted that they were nervous, uncomfortable, and evasive in all their interviews after they came back.

Telling you, bro, when a superior species is like, yeah, get the [bleep] off my. In addition, in addition, there was a Buzz Aldren incident where he essentially, there was somebody heckling him, and you could go see it on, on YouTube right now. Yeah, and he’s like, was the moon Ling real, like, why did you bring moon rocks back, and he’s like, and he punched him. Yeah, I, yeah, and he punched him, and, and it, it kind of, like, I mean, it’s debatable of what he said. Yeah, but this was like many years later, right? Yeah, many years later, years later, many years later. Yeah, many years later, but it’s debatable what he said because it was kind of like out of context, and it was like, you know, I’m not talking about it, or I’m not, you know, I refused to, uh, uh, you know, classified, it’s classified.

Yes, exactly, things like that. And so cons theorists, like, jumped on it. Oh yeah, they were like, any, this [bleep] didn’t go, and he’s just fed up now. Yeah, but it’s also, like, you know, maybe he’s got anger issues, maybe he was drunk, I don’t know. So, so it’s a little bit of both, where it was, their interviews after were, were uncomfortable, they were awkward, they, they, they didn’t really want to talk about landing on the moon. We don’t have a lot of interviews of what it was like, is very strange, like, it was, seems like such. I literally [bleep], you go to the bar, Shai, [bleep], [bleep], did like a nine holes, I be like, you know who I am.

Yeah, exactly, kind of a big deal, ask me, just go ahead to ask, ask me, ask me, Sea of Tranquility, like, yeah, I took, I took a dump there. I am of TR, am, what do you want to know? Anyway, so that’s, um, yeah, no, that’s, that’s definitely, very feeds into the, that feeds into the con, the other one, where he, like, punches the guy. I think, you know, for years and years and years of people telling you, like, oh, this is fake, you, you know, that was fake or whatever, yeah, it just gets to you. Be just imagine your entire life’s work, yeah, and I was like, literally your greatest Achi, like, sh, fake, and he’s like, he’s like, 18, and you’re like, what, like, he doesn’t work, and he’s like, he’s got like a [bleep] political science [bleep], and you’re like, [bleep], shut up.

Yeah, I don’t like that one, cuz I would punch the [bleep] out of that person. Yeah, yeah, okay, and the fact that he threw a good punch, and he, like, was unfazed by it, I was like, this is, they don’t make, they don’t make men like that anymore, that’s like a Dying Breed right there. Yeah, okay, we’re going to move on from that one because I don’t like it, you know what I mean, [bleep] them, [bleep] those hecklers. I don’t like it either, I mean, how much, no offense to you guys who go out and Heckle astronauts, but, like, you spend your time, and you go, and you follow this person, and then you, you Heckle them about their entire life work.

It’s also, like, do you know how difficult it is to, yes, you have to be a fighter pilot and a genius first, first off, yes, and you literally be smarter than of people, pilot, be able to stand, like, 200 G’s, or 20 G’s, or whatever the [bleep] it is, you can’t [bleep] smoke a cigarette. I know, it’s like God, like, I, I would die, like, they would put me in a little thing that, like, spins you around, dead. Sent that [bleep] myself, dead. Okay, so, and then one of the, uh, bigger arguments is that, and this is from Candace Owens and from other people, which is that the Apollo moon landings were faked because there’s no way they could have gotten through the Van Allen radiation belt.

Yeah, I didn’t, we didn’t go through this at all. So remember, I told, remember how we went over the, um, the hollow Earth episode? Oh yeah, that’s right, and also in the Flat Earth, I think we went over that. Right, there’s a, like, there’s a protective magnetic field that is protecting us from, like, a majority, not all of it, like, cuz obviously you can still get skin cancer and stuff from the radiation of the Sun, but from a vast majority of the radiation being emitted, because, like, if you look at what the sun is, the sun is a giant nuclear reaction, so it’s just [bleep] radiation everywhere, just like [bleep], it’s just a ball of radiation.

Yeah, so there’s an, there’s a ridiculous amount of radiation that is protecting us, or so to speak. Well, there’s a field around Earth that’s protecting, so if you go outside of that, like, how do you survive. But I think their suits, suits were like lead lined, weren’t they? Yeah, so I don’t know, but that’s the theory, and that’s what is being continually proposed by people who go, oh well, maybe it was fake because they go out and they’re just like dead. Yeah, that’s right, so, um, the idea is, is that it’s a lethal rad, radiation level, so if we go out and there’s nothing, you know, no protective thing, you’re [bleep].

Yeah, exactly, so, it, some people say that the level of radiation is so high that suits don’t even help, help, spacecraft don’t even help, um, especially those that were available in 1960. Yeah, they’re like. Made of 69, like aluminum foil. Yeah, yeah, it’s like, it’s like Levis Stitch, it looks like you’re tight. Right, so the idea is, is that, that the technology, the technology that existed then couldn’t get us through the Van Allen belt. Uh, it, it suggests that prolonged exposure, because they were there, remember the trip took three days. Yeah, totally, so they were three days, maybe two, because they weren’t always in the van Allen belt, but maybe two, you know, but then they got to go back.

Yeah, they got to. Okay, so 48 hours each way. Yeah, yeah, in the van Allen belt with Levi jeans, and the, like, legs are [bleep]. Yeah, so the idea is that they couldn’t have made it. I mean, that’s, that’s a plausible argument. Yeah, I don’t know, I don’t know, I can’t even speak anything to this, I, I didn’t even know about this [bleep] belt till now, but, like, I didn’t really, I didn’t really get it, you look at those suits, like, they’re [bleep] big as [bleep] and bulky as [bleep], like, what if it was like all lead, but they’re like, zg, so you can, like, move around with, like, 200 lb of lead, like, strapped to your back.

I don’t, I have no idea. But now, if that was a true conspiracy theory, that means they never went outside of our orbit. No, but, but here’s the thing, here’s the thing, like, they didn’t even go into space. No, but here’s the thing, is, like, how do they know what the radiation levels are there? There you go, if you, if, if they, you can’t go out, SP, like, where they, how they, who’s doing the, who’s out there with, like, a Geer counter, like, oh, what’s the radiation level. True, that’s right, and that’s the debunking of it. Yeah, is, unless, unless there’s some, like, nobody knows, satellite or something, dangerous levels, and what is not, well, people know what D meas.

Well, I mean, the measur, no one knows, like, yeah, like, unless you, like, I don’t, sent a probe out there, but then you have to then admit that. So you can get out there, but they didn’t go, because they, yeah, I don’t know what the, I don’t know what they’re trying to prove. Yeah, well, this is from NASA, uh, and it’s that the Apollo missions were meticulously planned, uh, to pass through the thinnest parts of the belts. So you can almost measure where the thin parts are of the radiation and pass through those, reducing the time that they were spent in those intent zones, and the, the total time that they said that they spent in those zones were 1 to two hours total.

I know, there and back total. It’s also funny that, like, look, I love doing this and I love talking [bleep], but it’s like, it’s a bunch of, like, you know, normal plebs like us, and then, like, literally the vast majority, and then, like, the smartest humans alive, who were like planning, and, like, 20,000 of them. I know, I’m like, all of the smartest people you’ve ever could imagine together, and then we’re like, [bleep] possible? Yeah, that’s right, of course you couldn’t do that, sh. So, so the debunking of it was, is that they planned it, and they planned it, and it was only one to two hours.

Yeah, I’m sure, like, I’m sure, like, they thought, if this is a real thing, they thought of it. Yeah, it wasn’t something like, [bleep], we didn’t think about the radiation. Yeah, what’s Joe’s team doing over there, like, playing, like, [bleep], like, pong? I know, what are you do, what are you do, in the 60s, drinking, what’s that little spinner, [bleep], Top Spin, top, like, slapjacks, what, [bleep], call the Cracker Jack. No, like, tomato in Spanish, tomato, sounds so much cool. I’m like, that’s why they call the love language. Yeah, stay, my [Laughter] wife. Um, so, like, uh, in addition to that, the spacecraft was designed for, for radiation shielding, that’s what I’m saying, so they, they, they planned it, it’s not like, so the guys are building a radiation Shield spacecraft, and then there’s got to be another team going, okay, these homies are building the spacecraft to, and, you know, they’re, you know, testing it too, there’s got to be, like, just put a block of plutonium on top of the ship and see if, like, it [bleep] gets through it, they got be testing it.

Cace Owens, come back, Jus, clickit. Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so the, the, the idea is, is that they receive minimal radiation. Okay, like, yeah, you guys, once again, it’s like this, the, a whole room, like a whole [bleep] Battalion, $28 billion worth of the smartest humans on Earth, and it has a bunch of, like, regular Joe’s like us. We’ll go with them. Yeah, we’re working like nine to FES. I’m gonna go with those guys, the rocket scientists. Yeah. Okay, so then, kind of towards the end of this, I had actually had chat GPT scrape all 2,000 of his episodes. Nice. And, uh, og, seconds, yeah, and, uh, 20 seconds later, like, here’s what I found, trying to, it’s amazing what technology we have today to, to be able to do that.

And so, uh, in the analysis, recently he came out and said that he no longer believes it, he no longer believes that, that, that it’s fake. Oh, that is fake, so he is now on board with that, we went to the moon. Okay, so, and here’s his quote, right, and from episode 1647 of The Joe Rogan Experience, he says, quote, I don’t think the moon landing is fake anymore, I used to think it was fake, I really did, but then I started talking to a lot of really smart people about it, and they explained why it would have been nearly impossible to fake it, and the evidence that we did go is overwhelming.

See, yeah, that’s Joe. I think, I don’t even remember what my prognosis was in the first episode, but, like, now I’m like, why, I’m two years wiser. Yeah, yeah, you’re 100 conspiracies in, dude. I’m like, dude, there’s so many people that are far, they’re so much smarter, like, I’m a smart guy, there’s so, people are so much smarter than us, it does put us in her place. And, like, anything that I would think of, like, oh, what about that, like, they were like, dude, that was like, that was on, like, the drawing board before we even, like, built the [bleep] ship, like, we already knew about, anything that we could possibly think of, they thought of a hundred different things more than that.

Yeah, like, you can imagine, like, the amount of just sheer [bleep] man-hours, and these people are working, like, especially cuz you’re, you’re racing Russia, it’s like, Country Pride, it’s the president’s up your ass, like, what, [bleep], we need results, you have to make it, they’re working 15 hour days for 5 years, like, they would, like, they have thought of it all. So, I, I personally think, I know, I’m just jumping in here, I personally think they, they did go. Okay, yeah, I think they got there, and I think there was some [bleep] there, that was like, yo, you’re not supposed to be here. Okay, like, get the [bleep] out of here, don’t come back.

And I think that’s why they, I think that’s why there’s the cut feed, I think there’s some [bleep] on audio, and I think, I think buzz and, like, like, uh, there’s some [bleep], go, yo, Houston, there’s something happening here, like, we don’t know what’s going on, and they were like, get the [bleep] out, don’t come back, and then they were like, we never, the technology was lost, and they’re like, okay, we’re out of here, and that’s why, and that’s why they never went back. Yeah, I don’t think, I think that’s, I don’t think they ever did go back. I think, obviously, Eric said there was all these other Moon missions, I think, I think, I mean, it’s, it’s documented, but, but supposedly, no, but I think there’s, I think there’s a reason why it’s not very mainstream, it’s not, you don’t really know about, it’s not like, oh, oh, yeah, it’s like, you know, I only thought of the one, yeah, and I was like, and there was the one that failed, and I was like, that’s it, so I don’t, I, that’s what I think, I think that there was something there, some sort of extraterrestrial being, some sort of base, or some [bleep], cuz there’s, you see all, like, the, you’ve seen all the, the satellite footage, and there’s, like, yeah, structures and [bleep], they kind of look like, like, what the [bleep] is that.

So I don’t know, that’s my view. Well, the good news is that, that sea now believes we went to the moon 100%, and that was a big, I feel, it’s a big step. Toally, went there. I also agree that we went there, um, I think, I, I said that on the first episode too, I, you were definitely on my side. Yeah, I, I, I don’t, although I, I, I would, I would love to believe with Sean that there was something there, some, some other beings, but, um, I don’t know, I don’t see that, I don’t think so, I don’t think so. PL J over here, welcome to the podcast, to the Plain Jane podcast.

Yeah, we went to the mode, and then, uh, then we, we came back, [bleep]. F, all right, boys, catch you next time on the [bleep], this is, talk about history and nothing changed podcast, NPR, PBS, hello, welcome to the NPR radio, we bring you live from the studio, I know, we’re just going to be reading from the history. Okay, keep going, Horge, sorry. We, so, what was I going to say, um, you believe we went, you don’t believe that there was beings there. Yeah, you just think that. I do, I do, I do think that they went back, I actually do think, ology, I actually do think that the US has been back, and other countries have been there, but that, well, that’s a good question, I don’t even know, should research that.

Yeah, that, yeah, which countries have been there. I just figured, like, why wouldn’t Russia and China go. Yeah, for sure, we’re all, like, in some, we like games. Yeah, we’re B. Who’s bad, who’s, you got nuclear, uh, nuclear bra. We do too. Oh, you went to the moon. Oh, I do too. You want to [bleep], I build ships. Yeah, I bet you there’s something up, some sort of, like, military, uh, like a little, yeah, like some, some sort of little base out there. Yeah, they, like, put, like, landmines and, like, [bleep] China. Okay, you want to come check out the moon? Okay, I reloaded. Okay, they, like, left, they left the dude up there, like, come on, you [bleep], just waiting.

I got to tell you some info that just came off, off the press here, really, um, no other country has been to the Moon. Sketch. No, I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it. That’s what I’m saying, man, that’s even more, that’s crazy. Isn’t that weird? That is very weird. That is a weird thing. That’s like saying that we put up some, just like Satellites up there, nobody else puts up satellites. No other country wants to have, some of, America beat, America beat us, [bleep], [bleep] it, I’m out. Country’s been sketch. No, that’s not true, it can’t be true. That’s hell sketch, it can’t be true.

You’re like, chbt, chbt, er, I mean, India’s trying to go by 2026. India was trying to get, why now, that’s crazy, that’s, they, like Russia, like, collapsed by the time. I mean, they have probes, they have probes, and, but who gives a [bleep] about a probe. I can, machines have made it. Yeah, you know, in, in drones and stuff like that, but no, they made too. Right, I me, yeah, but no man-made, other, in the US, no, I don’t believe that. Really. This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Whether you’re selling a little or a lot, Shopify helps you do your thing, however you, ch, ching, from the launcher online shop stage all the way to the, we just hit a million orders stage, no matter what stage you’re in, Shopify is there to help you grow.

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Um, the only, the only new found thing is terraforming Marsh, that’s, that Musk is, well, the thing proposing about Mars is, that’s different, is that, like, Mars has, like, a little bit more life sustainable. Well, there’s, like, ice and [bleep] there. Yeah, ice, ice, yeah, so there’s, like, it’s a little bit more habitable, so, like, okay, like, literally, based on what they found is that it was, it’s possible that humanesque life could have lived there prior. Yeah, so obviously it’s so funny, and, like, that’s why I think, like, the SC scientists are so interesting, they’re like, oh well, life is not possible there, I’m like, well, our life isn’t possible.

True, different kind of life, I know. It’s just like, every, it’s so funny, like, how it’s literally, like, the human, the Human Condition is so conceited, oh no, life could not exist there, like, no, like, how are you going to, like, pretend that you know all forms of life, like, [bleep] bacteria, like, literally floating on [bleep] Asteroids for millions of years, and they, they, and come to Earth, and land on Earth, and they find it, and, like, this, like, you know, simple bacteria, it’s like, how, how are you going to pretend that, oh okay, we can live, but if a bacteria, which we consider a life form, an organism, it’s a living organism that breeds other organisms, life creates life, how are you going to say that life couldn’t exist somewhere.

Right, bacteria, can we consider bacteria a life form. So, so I, I do, I, I’ll give you a little hot take, I do believe that if there was an alien race, it’d be an HD, I do believe, no, do believe that maybe they, they could have visited there, but our concept of time. Same time, the same time that we visited? No, no, our concept of time, I believe, is so skewed. Oh, for sure, that it probably was a thousand, 2,000 years ago, and we don’t even, like, our concept of humanity is, is so short, like, we believe that. Yeah, and we believe that it’s like this, is since World War II, and, like, you, what I mean, that was, like, started, know, Adam was born on the [bleep] beaches of Nory, like, our main civilization was born because we, it’s literally scientifically proven that it’s not true.

So if Earth has been around for, and sustaining life for millions of years, then there’s a major Gap. Oh, 100%, there’s a major gap of no historical data, because humans didn’t write it. That’s true. Yeah, so I believe in that Gap, does that make sense? But what’s in that Gap, that, that aliens visited, is that what you’re talking about, extraterrestrial possible visitation of, checking out our moons, making some of those, uh, the landscape was different, there’s these huge valleys, there’s possibly man-made, not man-made, but, uh, intellectual made rivers, or Ravines, Etc, there’s a possibility, structures, sort of like pyramid style. Yes, exactly. Well, I mean, man, that looked the same across, across the GL, interesting, Eric, elaborate on this, please.

But, but these super structures were made, I don’t know, as, as far as the moon landing, we went to the moon absolutely, 100%. Yeah, we went to the moon, yeah, more than once, more than once. Y, I’m going, but I would say, what do you think, only the US went, or [bleep], [bleep], that’s a great question. Dude, the fact that I can’t imag, the, the Russians are so secretive, though, that, yeah, I agree, they probably went and they’re like, [bleep] it, we’re not going to tell them. I know, right, we’re not going to tell them, I can see him, like, walking over, like, just taking the American flag out, we’re not going to tell them, they’re like, hey, we’re going to put this case of Bitcoin right here.

Satoshi, like, with the Russians, just a big old crate of Bitcoin, it’s like 1 million Bitcoin. We understand that doesn’t make sense. Okay, we’re making a joke. Okay, we’re going to get it, like, Flack, I get it, it’s a digital currency, I get it, no one has physical bit, Eric, you can’t put it in a box, Eric, that doesn’t exist. Yeah, anyways. Yeah, yeah, but maybe, maybe the Russians went, that’s a good point, I think they did, they were the first ones in space, why can’t say that. I know, why did they give up? Yeah, yeah, anys, all right, there you go, guys, that’s what we got, uh, hopefully we put this to rest.

I, I think it’s, and all of our followers, our patreons, our Discord members, all of our Instagram followers, hopefully they are on board now, we went to the Moon. I mean, we solved it, we went to the moon, can we just give her out, I really want to buy a stamp that’s like, like, that we could, the script, it’s like, solve, I, I want Sol, put it on the video somehow. I know, like, super solve. All right, well, we’ll, uh, we’ll catch you guys next time. Yeah, night, and night, w.