Rockefeller Part 2: Medicine Man – Episode #51

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// THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE — WE JUST CAN’T AGREE ON IT
CASE OPEN

CASE FILE No. 51  //  ROCKEFELLER: MEDICINE MAN

Rockefeller Part 2: Medicine Man

filed: oct 24, 2023  //  runtime: 64:02  //  hosts: jorge, sean, eric
// THE SHORT VERSION

This episode continues the hosts’ two-part look at John D. Rockefeller, shifting from his business empire to his family’s influence on American medicine. The hosts walk through the 1910 Flexner Report, commissioned by the Council on Medical Education (a body created by the American Medical Association) and authored by Abraham Flexner, which was funded in part by the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. The report concluded that homeopathy, herbal medicine, and chiropractic care were quackery, and it became the foundation for standardizing U.S. medical education and making the AMA the sole body approving medical licenses.

From there, the hosts lay out a theory rather than a proven history: that Rockefeller funded and influenced the AMA specifically to steer American medicine toward petroleum-derived treatments and away from plant-based remedies, protecting his Standard Oil business interests. They tie this speculation to other transcript-cited events, including Rockefeller’s 1913 funding role in the American Cancer Society and a 1939 pharmaceutical alliance they describe between Rockefeller interests and the German company IG Farben, which was broken up after World War II into companies including Bayer.

The hosts repeatedly caution that the episode is not medical advice, and several of them share personal stories of family members whose lives were saved by modern cancer treatment. Their broader complaint is less about medicine itself and more about profit incentives in healthcare, including their claim that a large share of U.S. adults are on some form of medication.

“Johnny Rockefeller was influencing the American Medical Association, and he was funding them, and he was giving all these donations and doing those things, because he was funding petroleum based medical policy.”

— the guys, on the record
// THE EVIDENCE
  • The 1910 Flexner Report, authored by Abraham Flexner and commissioned by the Council on Medical Education (a body created by the American Medical Association), evaluated and restructured medical education across the United States, per the transcript.
  • The hosts state the Flexner Report was funded by the Rockefeller Foundation along with the Carnegie Foundation, and that it concluded homeopathy, herbal medicine, essential oils, and chiropractic care were quackery, marking what the hosts describe as the split between western and eastern medicine.
  • Following the report, the American Medical Association became the only entity that could approve medical licenses in America, according to the hosts, which is when formal licensing of doctors began.
  • The hosts theorize, without presenting it as settled fact, that John D. Rockefeller funded and influenced the AMA in order to favor petroleum-based medical treatments over the plant-based and vitamin-based approaches gaining scientific attention at the time, protecting his existing petroleum business.
  • The hosts state that in 1913, Rockefeller was a major funder behind the founding of the American Cancer Society.
  • The hosts describe a 1939 pharmaceutical alliance between the Rockefeller family’s interests and the German company IG Farben, which was dismantled after World War II into multiple companies, including Bayer, and which the hosts connect to later Rockefeller and JP Morgan Chase ties to pharmaceutical firms.
// CASE QUESTIONS
What is the 1910 Flexner Report?
The Flexner Report was a 1910 evaluation of U.S. medical schools authored by Abraham Flexner and commissioned by the Council on Medical Education, a body created by the American Medical Association. Per the hosts, it concluded that homeopathy, herbal medicine, and chiropractic care were quackery, and it became the basis for standardizing American medical education and licensing.
Did John D. Rockefeller fund the American Medical Association?
According to the hosts, Rockefeller donated to and helped fund the American Medical Association, and the Flexner Report itself was backed by the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. The hosts frame Rockefeller’s deeper motive, that this funding was meant to favor petroleum-based medicine, as a theory rather than a documented fact.
What is the Rockefeller medicine conspiracy theory?
It is the theory, discussed by the hosts, that John D. Rockefeller used his wealth and philanthropic funding, including the Flexner Report and support for the AMA, to push American medicine toward petroleum-derived drugs and away from natural or plant-based remedies in order to protect his oil business. The hosts present this as speculation built around real historical events like the Flexner Report, not as proven history.
Is it illegal to treat cancer with something other than chemotherapy, radiation, or surgery in the US?
One host claims on the show that federal law restricts cancer treatment in the United States to chemotherapy, radiation, or surgery, and that this pushes some people to seek treatment elsewhere. This is presented as the host’s own assertion during the episode rather than a verified legal fact, and it should not be treated as medical or legal guidance.
// THE FULL TRANSCRIPT
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Okay, everybody, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast podcast. Oh yeah! Hell yeah! Who’s here? Who’s here? Who’s here right now? You have been here, dog. So I’m Eric, I’m Sean, what’s up, y’all? What up? It’s Jorge, he’s looking like a lay. So we are doing Rockefeller number two, dose. Yeah, Rockefeller number two, brought to you by B, by Spotify Premium. Pay us, please. Yeah, please, God. Now, you know, also by, by, oh go, no, I was to say you guys can do Spotify Premium, and then we have the Patreon. Recommend the Patreon though, because you guys, you guys will get access to our um, our Discord, and then like just hang out with us, dude.

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And you get a mini every week. Oh, every mon, every month. C down, [bleep], chill out, no, no, you already have six out, and uh, we do one every month, so one a month. Yeah, and well, eventually, once we’re at a point where we can do this only, we’ll do like hella more these [bleep] minis all the time, yeah, once you pay us enough. Come on, like where are the rich guys, there’s got to be a rich guy listening this who wants to help us out, or girl, or girl, rich girl, widower. Girls are rich too, widow, hell, like girls are rich, dude. Is sh mama out there?

I know, look, look, we’re semi fit, like, well, if you ask Eric, I, Eric fit as [bleep] in his mind. Well, I’m beefy. Oh, there, beefy, this is beefy. Beefy is the right word. I got tats, like I’m T it up, yeah. Oh, you got a double sleeve now? Well, a double, almost sleeve, the half is done. It’ll, it will be double, it will be double once, uh, just so you guys, just, just so you guys all know, just so you know, when we hit 1 million listeners, uh, Jorge is going, is going to get a tribute tattoo. Yeah, a [bleep] stamp. It’s a tribute tattoo.

Fake news. Yeah, technically it’s me and Eric are going to get tattoos, and we’re trying to convince, so the more you spread the word, the more you can see Jorge get a tribute tattoo. So this again was assisted by, or helped, or sponsored by Christa. Yeah, Christa, shout out to you again, thank. So in the first episode we went over the history of John D Rockefeller, yeah, the tycoon, and how he [bleep] manifested all of his [bleep], yeah, how he became the richest American that’s ever lived. The man, yeah, essentially. Savage. [bleep] ruthless. So in 1896 he left his only son to run the company.

Of course it was. And not his four daughters. He’s like, me? You can’t do this [bleep]. I mean, this is back in the day, back in the dayen, back in the day, you don’t have any uh, female CEOs. No, God, there’s zero, I think there was probably zero at that time. Yeah, we’re, we don’t subscribe. I have a daughter, I, I think she’s going to be the next great business executive. That’s right. But I’m saying, at this time, yeah, it was like your daughter and my daughter are going to start another Standard Oil. Oh, for sure. Oh, my gosh. And I’m going to be like sitting in the back, I’m like, they’re not doing anything [bleep], shitty, the best, they the best, and they will be in the trust.

I, yeah, they will be in the trust, I’m a trustee, yeah, and then Uncle Eric will come into for a loan. Er’s like, I got a great idea, all right, check it. Che, I know your, your dad is for a long time. I know your dad is for a long time. They’re like, like, yeah, I know, we know you, dog, what the problem? I just need a couple millim, trust me, trust me, it’s going to be a long-term Lo, 70E loan. There’s something called boob coin, boob coin, it’s super important, it’s going to change everything, boob coin. Yes, it’s an offshoot Fork of Dogecoin, it’s boob coin, very important, dude, I’d [bleep] buy boob coin, I 100% buy boob coin.

They’re going to lend it to you at 60% interest. Sure, whatever interest you want. He’s like, I’m never paying. Exactly. Bo. Okay, John D had a few kids, he had five, mhm, he had four daughters and a boy, right? These are the main progyny, yeah, here are the main progeny, here are the people who did something, I guess. And these are children and grandchildren, okay, okay. And this is Abigail Rockefeller, okay. John thei Rockefeller, Nelson Rockefeller, Lawrence Rockefeller, Winthrop, Winthrop, oh yeah, Rockefeller, and David Rockefeller. That’s a lot of Rockefellers. That’s right. So Abigail was known as Babs, she became the philanthropy, she headed up the foundation that we talked about, the Rockefeller Foundation, she also did that with John theii, okay, right.

Then there was Nelson Rockefeller. Nelson Rockefeller went into politics, very wealthy individual, he also became the vice president, president of the United States. Oh [bleep], under Gerald Ford, okay. Lawrence Rockefeller became heavily involved in tech investments and tech startups, AI, he was one of the first, he was one of the first tech investments into Apple computer. Oh wow, she, Jesus, killing it. Winrop, Winrop, which is the greatest name on planet, yeah, you’re rich. That always reminds me of, I’ve never met a poor winth, reminds me of that movie trading, Trading Places. Trading Places, yeah, yeah, I think that’s his name, right? Wi, I think so.

Yeah, you can’t be poor if you’re win. Maybe I should name my son Winth. Yeah, guaranteed. I know, just like set in stone. Not only was he a war hero in World War II, he was, he actually war, well, I mean, you know, you get the Navy cross and a couple other things, I don’t, I don’t know his exact St, sure, that’s fine, fine. He also ended up becoming the governor of Arkansas. Damn. So he did some things right. And then there was David Rockefeller, who was the banker of all bankers, he helped a little bank called Chase. Chase, oh, with, with [bleep] Chase manhatt, Chase manhatt bank ended up becoming JP, JP Morgan Chase.

Yeah, that’s right. Yeah, so all your kids are killing the game, or your grandchildren killing it, just, what, they a little helps have a little, little investment from Papa. Papa, Papa Dukes. Yes, I mean, just imagine you start things off at 18 with, I don’t know, 50 to 100 million, they’re like, look, you can’t lose. Yeah, like we, like at our current run rate, you’re good for another 17 years, only swinging runs. You’re like, Dad, Dad, check it out, it’s called Pepsi Twist. You put, you put a Cola with a lemon, and it’s called a Twist. It’s going to be huge. He’s like, he’s like, what’s it going to cost?

Yeah, $100 million, and it’s a success. I know, you’re like, right, with enough money anything will eventually, success, pretty much. Mhm, you just got to wait it out. Okay, so here are some of the accolades, no, conspiracies of, oh perfect, yes, these are some of the weirdness, this is the weirdness, right? And it’s the idea, and it starts with John D Rockefeller, yeah, piece of [bleep], which is the idea, is that he was so, uh, rich. Well, yeah, powerful. Well, and more driven. And more, uh, hungry. Oh yeah. Theti ambitious. So ambitious that he decided, oh, you know, he needs to manipulate the media, mhm, he needs to manipulate medicine, need manipulate [bleep] the banking system.

So he’s going to buy newspapers. So if you have all that money, why don’t you buy newspapers and change the message? Was a classic play. Classic rich guy play. Yeah, the more we talk about this guy, the more it reminds me of [bleep] Jeff Basos, likeing, like [bleep], like he’s like, oh, just buy, he just, like, following, following the blueprint. It is the blueprint. The Bri guy blueprint. Yeah. But here’s the question though, is, is he bad? Yes. Yeah, no, also, wait, you talking about John or Bezos? I’m talking about John. Okay, but let’s talk about if Bezos is doing the same thing. Oh, BOS is slimy as [bleep], bro.

Oh, oh, he’s super slime, yeah. Oh, dude, for sure. So you don’t think he has the greater good as a, not all on the Forefront? No, God, no. Maybe I just bought into the PR, I don’t know. Oh, hor is on, hor is a Bezos, a Bezos fan? Huh, why, what makes you, really, F. I’m just saying, like, I don’t know, maybe he’s just trying to do good. How? He just bought, he, he bought, bro, if anybody can [bleep] [bleep] me a a [bleep] package in two days, he’s a good guy. Logistics says bot Jorge’s heart. Yes, I, all in. What did we do before Prime, come on now?

If he can get me my coffee pods by Friday morning, it’s like he’s, he’s clearly, he’s this guy’s a saint. Yeah, well, here was the idea, and I, I’ll tell you this little story, and then you tell me if there was any nefarious activity, yeah. Okay, so we had touched on it a little bit on the episode before, which was that at that time there wasn’t a systematic setup for medicine. Yes. And we’re going, yeah, whatever you wanted it to be, there, there was no official thing, you could have been a dentist, and, and you could have been just on a wagon and just saying, hey, I’m a dentist, you know what I mean, and like there was no, uh, you know, T There was no trust me, I’m a brain surgeon.

Yeah, there’s no disciplinary, no, but the thing is, at this time most of the medicine was naturopathic or homeopathic medicine, and the thing is that medicine worked. It wasn’t an extent, it wasn’t like to anent, I mean, one in four women would die in birth. Yeah, to an extent it worked, right? No, but I’m saying, like, in terms of the actual, what they were doing wasn’t necessarily wrong, but, but, but, but what you’re going to get into, and I’ll just kind of like drop the ball here, so Johnny Rockefeller was influencing the American Medical Association, and he was funding them, and he was giving all these donations and doing those things, because he was funding petroleum based medical policy.

That’s right. So it was, it was petroleum based medicine, so he figured out another way to monopolize with what he already had. So that was the thing, kind of exping the blueprint. That’s the thing, is, so if, if, if you were to decide on a path of what was right or wrong, why wouldn’t you use the product that you’re [bleep] supplying? Why would you not decide that it was right or wrong for man, rather than right or wrong for your product line? You, it’s, it’s obviously for his product line, cuz he’s the fu, he’s a sole proprietor of [bleep] all things petroleum. Yeah, so the idea is, before X date, it was, hey, you know, it was your grandma in the southern thing, and they, they would, you know, you put a sprinkle of cayenne pepper on your wound, and I don’t know, I’m being, I’m being a little bit crazy, but no, the thing, but, but, back to the point, you mentioned one every four people died in childbirth, it wasn’t because of the medicine, it was because they weren’t able, they weren’t like ready for the complications that are involved with childbirth.

What, to say if your kid is born breach, or if you have to do, if you do a C-section, you’re losing all this blood, all these things, it had nothing to do with it being like naturopath or homeopathic medicine, they weren’t [bleep] ready for that kind of [bleep], they didn’t know what to [bleep] do, like they didn’t have that [bleep] technology, they didn’t even know about hygiene, that was part of, that was part of the problem. Wash your hands before you touch the vagina. Seriously. He’s like, I’m good, I just eat a sandwich, cigarette in his mouth, all right, go ahead, turn the baby. So, but that’s the idea, is that, is that, is that, you know, there were ways to handle that we’ve done for centuries.

No, humans, and I say humans, man, no man has been doing it for centuries, and he introduced using this completely new thing, and it was like a whole, it was a whole [bleep] propaganda campaign, like massive, massive propaganda campaign, and by this time he already owns the newspaper. Yeah, it was, it was, he owned, he owned a couple newspaper chains. Okay, you know, and not all of them, but there were a few that were under the thing, and then later on, so he controls the message, he controls the bit, but later on the Rockefeller Foundation owned some media channels. No, but see, when he was doing this, it was all within the American Medical Association, so he was literally in essence paying them, he actually helped start it.

Yeah, and they were, and, and they were, and they were pumping, they were pumping out this thing, there were literally commercials, there was [bleep], all these things, oh, well, you, you to be doing this you need to put some oil in your [bleep] body, like trust me, this is going to be the good thing. And then if you look, just via timeline, after this happens, after this goes into place, all like the in terms of what was happening to the human race, in terms of the medical problems, just, just exponentially got worse, more and more [bleep], more and more [bleep], over and over and over again.

Even if you look at, like, the development, as at least nowadays as medicine develops more, there becomes more and more issues, to then develop more and more [bleep], to develop more and more issues, to develop more and more [bleep], it’s like, it’s constant. Remember, there was a [bleep] bird flu. Profets is what you’re saying. It’s for like, it’s bird flu happens, everyone’s like, what the [bleep] is this [bleep]. Ah, there was like mad cow disease, swine flu, yeah, swine, it just keeps going forever and ever and ever. But I don’t know if we can say that all that stuff is because of that, I mean, to put it, the underlying source.

No, that’s not, I’m not saying it’s because of Johnny Rockefeller, I’m just saying it’s because if you look statistically, as the medical, it’s, it’s, it’s the same, it’s the same concept as, okay, we have, we have a um, uh, military industrial complex, right, so we’re just crank, we’re constantly like cranking up the budget and all this [bleep], and so we have a military industrial complex that benefits off of a war, mh, so we, as you can see in present, like day, what’s happening right now, you know, Joe Biden gives $7 billion to Iran, Iran then funds Hamas, which then attacks Israel, and then we come out, we’re like, hey, we’re staying with Israel, and then now we have our naval fleets moving into position to go into war, and our defense budget is what, 700 billion a year, we have an industrial, we have a military-industrial complex that benefits off of war, they, we benefit, winning when it’s war, same thing with our medical industry, our medical industry benefits on pandemics, they benefit on disease, they benefit on new viruses, they benefit, they get more money, they get more and more money, the more [bleep] that happens to you.

If, if everyone was healthy, they die, they don’t exist, they cease to exist. So I’m saying, like, the whole, the whole point is, like, I’m not saying Johnny Ruf made this happen, I’m just saying, but he started it, the system, he started a system where it’s, I benefit from you not doing well. You’re talking about putting capitalism in things that shouldn’t be capitalistic. Yes, maybe, maybe our business should be capitalistic, right, like you’re in marketing and you’re in a thing, and maybe that should be a capital, health care shouldn’t be, health care should, maybe taking care of the four-year-old girl who is sick shouldn’t be capitalistic.

No, you shouldn’t, you shouldn’t be incentivized on a, on a child being sick. Yeah, why are you incentivized on that? You’re actually incentivized, I will pay you more money when more kids are sick. Hey, you know what, I’m down, I agree with you, it’s [bleep], I actually agree, isn’t it, I actually fully agree with you, we got that on video, I actually agree with you on that, I do agree with you. Yeah, so, as I was saying, the system itself is like it’s [bleep], why, why should they be benefitting, all that, it should be, isn’t it about preventing that, like stopping that from happening, like the [bleep], but what we would have to do is delineate that in some sort of governmental way.

Yeah, but the government is, is the most untrustworthy organization on the planet, like literally the most untrustworthy. How do we, how do we, you don’t, cuz they don’t give a [bleep], everybody that ends up in, well, we’re talking about the medical right now, but like the FDA, you know, oh, they’re all crims. Yes, like, they’re all [bleep], they all work for one of these big pharma companies, and they got placed there, and it’s just all one big [bleep]. Maybe I’ll move to Canada. May, I mean, conspiracy, you know how much Fouchy made, how much money he makes? Oh, Fouchy, yeah, no idea. You know, Fouchy was the highest paid medical person on Earth.

Really? Oh yeah. What’s the number? I don’t know the exact number, but it was like, do you know how much money he gets from royalties? Royalties from what? From all of his books. Patents. Oh, patents. Oh yeah. Oh my God, dud, I’d have to look, crazy money, I’d have to look into that, could be another episode right there. Crazy money. Insane money. Really, it, it’s, it’s absurd, it’s actually absurd, it’s, it’s like, it’s like it’s wild, it’s criminal, it’s criminal, it’s actually criminal, like, look it up, it’s wild. Wow, it is actually wild. Okay, next. Well, no, no, no, so, so back on, just back on the thing, and, and, and how it happened.

And so, what is a petrochemical, right? And so that was, that was, what is it, like, right? And so in the simplest of terms, petrochemicals are any substance or product that originates from natural gas or petroleum. Exactly, right, petrochemicals consist of oils, such as mineral oil, uh, and it’s used normally in Vaseline, lip balm, uh, lip products, creams, shampoos, skin care, uh, you know, when you clean your house, spray bottles, all that stuff. And some of them could be dangerous, of course, a lot of, a lot of them have, have been known to be carcinogenic, leading to cancer, and like all these things, it’s al, you know, especially with skincare products, petroleum based products actually block your pores, prevents your body from actually absorbing oxygen, it’s, it’s a whole, a whole thing.

That’s right, that’s right. So, but what’s interesting is, at this time there was new breakthrough studies on vitamins, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin C, uh, D3, B1, B2, you know, that was happening where we were actually advancing our studies on natural things that our body needed, vitamins being a natural pathway, right, but that was not, that did not assist in any way the further production, the Rockefellers aren’t selling vitamin B1. That’s the idea, is, is that, is that, okay, if somebody took more vitamin C, would they need petroleum products? Of course not. No, that’s the thing, is like, or whatever other vitamin, right? Yeah, like whether or not, I, I’m just using vitamin C, I fully believe, like, they’re gonna nail you on that one.

Doesn’t do that, a bunch of oranges. No, see, I fully believe, like, obviously Like before we had modern medicine, like, don’t get me wrong, I actually, I think modern medicine is amazing, I think it’s [bleep] unbelievable what we can do in terms of surgeries and this stuff, it’s spectacular, it’s inc, actually incredible, it’s actually amazing, arthoscopic surgery, it’s like, are you kidding me, it’s [bleep] unbelievable. But in terms of general healthare, just baseline general healthare, I feel like, you know, 10,000 years ago we didn’t have this many problems. Yeah, because people were just like naturally getting the basic nutrients, the basic building blocks of life from their diets, and, like, and the sun was giving them vitamin D, and they were like, oh [bleep], and they were fine, and there wasn’t all these problems.

But now it’s, we have technology, we have constantly being irradiated by our [bleep] TVs and our phones and our [bleep], I mean, [bleep], 10,000 years ago, McDonald, Oreos, know? Yeah, we’re much fatter now, yeah. Was it just like straight sugar diet? Seriously. But, and to your point, right, like, I mean, each of us have our own stories, I’m sure, but I have a very, very, very, very close family member, and, you know, she had ovarian cancer, yeah, and, um, modern medicine saved her life. Of course, you know, and she would not be here. I have the same thing, if it was not the case. So I don’t want us to be all willy-nilly and, you know, it doesn’t help, and we are all four.

Dude, I have, I have the same thing, very close, I’m not going to name, but very close, I had breast cancer. That’s right. And it was, they’re, they’re here, and they’ve been cancer free for 5 years. That’s right. So, like, I’m, right, I, that’s, I wanted to preface it with modern medicine’s amazing. It’s amazing, it’s incredible, that’s why I said, for general health, just a baseline general health, I feel like we had it better back in the day. In terms of advanced medical situations, we’re clearly superior nowadays, clearly superior, 100% superior. I’m always of the frame of, go, if something’s wrong, go medically check. Yeah, go to the doctor first.

Go to the doctor, and then work on solutions after, on the natural, or, yeah, yeah, exactly right, cuz, cuz there’s so much advancement and so much progress. That is, that on the same page. So anyway, so the idea though here was that vitamins were then being created, and, and the research was being done, and then supposedly the Rockefeller family had research done, and they put together a study, the Rockfeller Foundation, along with the Carnegie Foundation, which is the other rich of the time, they put together, something called, they funded something called the Flexner report. Yeah, they funded it, they funded, the funded the report, the Flex report was 1910, and it was authorized by a man named Abraham Flexner.

Flexner was commissioned by the Council on Medical Education, the council, and that was created by the American Medical Association, and the intentions of this report were to help evaluate and potentially restructure the entirety of the medical education that was being distributed into the United States. Yeah, right. During this time, therapies such as homeopathy, herbal medicine, essential oils, chiropractic was in, this, this was commonplace, and the 1910 Flexon report concluded that these natural healing modalities were quackery. Yeah, see, that’s, that’s, that’s what it separated between. That’s when the delineation between eastern and western medicine, that’s right, correct, it became western medicine. But see, that’s my thing, is, I’m sorry, they weren’t, they’ve been killing the game with eastern medicine for 5,000 years, bro, like, I don’t know, like, they, the [bleep] are surviving, they weren [bleep].

I mean, I mean, I go to a chiropractor, but like, okay, fine, but what about, that counts, that counts, that’s in their same category, I guess, I, I’m kind of, like, we all go to the chiropract. No, but nowadays it’s coming, right? Yeah, it was coming back then, they just, yes, but then they nied it out for like 70 years. That’s true, yeah. No, I was just wondering, if you ever tak, that, what other, like, you know, those little uh [bleep] homeopathic little balls or whatever they sell, I gave them to my kid, yeah, for teeth, little homeopathic little, like, thingies, they’re like little homeopathic medicine that they’re made into, like, these little sugar balls, yeah, chew them, of the medicine.

The, ath medicine, depend what it is, depends what’s wrong with you, or [bleep], I don’t know, like, it’s like herbs and [bleep]. Eric, Eric’s already calling it quackery, he’s like, I don’t take that quackery, milk of the poppy, I saw it, like Leo did a movie about it, what do they call, qu, qu, qu, I feel so much better, my body, it’s a, dud, I know, he’s like, get the luds, I won’t die. Sil, but what’s here, here’s what’s interesting, so the report concluded also that there were too many medical schools and too many doctors, America, like too many cooks in the kitchen, like too many theories, they said too many, we know better than you, there’s too many, this became the foundation of what was the standardization of medical education, and this became the American Medical Association, and it, and it stated that the AMA would be the only entity that could approve medical licenses in America.

So this began, when, this is when you had to be licensed as a doctor, right, to become an, you know, you could just pull up, like you said, you, I’m here, I promise, I know how to do this, I’m from Colombia, and I did dentistry, I know. It’s weird though, cuz anytime you have any sort of centralized body that has singular power over a thing, scary, is, it’s scary, because obviously the idea of it is great, you know, hey, make sure they’re, they’re legit, don’t totally disagree with them, like the idea is great, like the idea of it is actually, when it’s funded by this guy that has an interest in pushing a certain, right, you know, let me ask, the, that’s when it’s [bleep], the FDA has approved, like, McDonald sandwiches which you can, like, literally they can survive like a thousand years, like a nuclear holocaust, so I’m like, are they really right?

I, so I had a root canal a year and a half ago, not, not very soon, yeah, horrible, was the worst, one of the worst, yeah, like my soul was inverting, it was so much pain that my, I lost my mind, yeah, I lost my mind for like, for like 30 minutes, you know, no big deal, give any [bleep] for the pain. Well, they did, but it was so, work, it didn’t work, it was, I’ve never had, a couple little homeopathic [bleep], she, on the sugar cube, so I go, salt cube, I go in, no, I go in, and I do the whole thing, and then they drill, and la la, that’s the end of it, m, never did I once go, hey, let me see your certificate, yeah, let me see your proof that you’re certified.

So the point of that story is that we trust that these people are, yeah, qualified, yeah, so just imagine a hundred years ago, there’s like, it could have been sea, hey, hey, thousand bucks, sit down, she, you know what I mean, che, on the saass route, yeah, and he gets a [bleep] pick, and you’re like, oh, I’m like, oh [bleep], it’s wrong. T, I’m just saying, it’s not, it’s not like the worst idea. No, that’s what I’m saying, no, it’s not the worst idea, what I’m saying, it’s like, who’s it funded by, what’s his special interest in it, yeah, that’s what I’m saying, the concept of it, it’s actually right, it’s just when you get into a point where it’s, hey, who’s paying your paychecks, and you’re, well, I want to keep getting paid, so I’ll just say yes to this one thing, and then once you say yes to one thing, you’re start saying yes to everything, and, hey, you know, I got videos of you, ch, approved, everything’s approved, sty, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, well, so here’s the whole idea, is, is that, then these became funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, in the Carnegie Foundations, as well, to no longer have plant-based scenarios and medicine, etc, and just do petroleum.

Yep, cu petroleum is really good for your body, cuz petroleum, your body really just absorbs petroleum and takes it in like real good. So obviously, obviously, I mean, obviously, they’re making money off. No, so that’s my point, like, as crazy as, you’re 90 years old, he’s 90 years old by this time, you just always want your [bleep] to keep going, I guess. So when you’re killing it like that, you’re like [bleep] yeah, it’s in, it’s, it’s in [bleep] blood, this ambitious, this, this ambition, this control, it’s in him, you know. My thing is, like, how did anyone believe that petroleum is actually good for your body, like, how do they, oh, hell yeah, the black gold, oh my God, if I drink it, I’m g feel great.

I don’t know who ever thought that that was like a good thing. Yeah, what’s interesting, what’s interesting too is, in 1913 he was a major benefactor in funding something called the American Cancer Society. Oh great, yeah, because petroleum is probably causing it. Honestly, I’m not lie, so I don’t know if you know this, but under federal law now it’s illegal to utilize any other modality other than chemo, radiation, or surgery, in the treatment of cancer. See, that’s what I don’t understand, it’s illegal? No, it’s illegal, in the US, in the US, I didn’t know that, if you want to, if you want to go, if you have to literally go to, that’s why people go to like, they go to like Budapest.

But see, that’s what the thing is, they literally, people have been arrested, actually arrested, in the United States, for curing cancer, not using these ways, and so that’s one, that’s [bleep] [bleep]. Do you know what the average cost is for a major cancer? Probably like, probably $2 to $400,000, 150 grand is the minimum, yeah. That’s $2 to $400,000, easy, jeez. See, that’s why, see, that’s why, you know, I don’t even make that in [bleep]. See, that’s why, you know, it, that’s why You know, it’s [bleep], it’s wrong, because it’s ille, so money, money, it’s, it’s illegal for you to try to do it another way, illegal.

Yeah, why is it illegal, back to the monopoly, like why is it not your choice, you’re like, hey, it’s my body, like why can’t I eat [bleep], you know, grapes, and [bleep] mustard greens, and like try to [bleep] carry my [bleep], can, like, it should be your right. Suar, you know, I’m not saying it’s g to work, I’m just saying why can’t you just do whatever you want. So you’re of the belief that you should be able to go out the way you want to go out, it’s your body, why, how can they control how you try to treat yourself when it’s your, when it’s your life, and it’s your body, like, how can someone tell you how you want to treat it?

Yeah, I’m not saying it’s, it’ll work, I’m not, I’m not advocating anything will work, I’m not saying. Well, the way they get away with it is, they’re not telling you, they’re telling them they can’t [bleep], they can’t practice this unless they have a license from this AM, AMA. No, but my thing is, I understand that, imagine if I have, you know, stage four pancreatic cancer, which is almost incurable, why would I want to go through chemo and radiation and literally have my body destroyed, and I have my immune system destroyed, with the hope that maybe it goes away, if I wanted to try something different, why wouldn’t I would want to have the right to try whatever I want to try, if I’m going to die, I’m, I’m considered terminally ill, and I’m going to die, why are you going to make it, you’re going to make it illegal for me to try to like do some other [bleep]?

Like, well, because nowadays is [bleep] even worse than it was back then, imagine the kind of [bleep] that people would try to be pulling nowadays if there was no license, like, to your point, you’re like, oh, I want to do, I [bleep], I’m, I’m going to use heroin to treat this [bleep], and I’m not saying, I’m say, I’m saying using a legal substance. Okay, f, it’s tricky, it is tricky, isn’t it, it’s, it’s not tricky, but like, it’s, I’m just saying, it’s, it’s, it’s super legal for you to literally put a substance in your body that destroy, that absolutely vaporizes everything it touches, your entire immune system gets destroyed, yeah, you know, chemo kills everything, I know, I hope you know that chemo kills all cells, yeah, it’s, it’s not like it’s, oh, it only kills the bad cells, it kills all cells, yeah, so it’s like, I’ll kill everything, and hopefully you can make it through, that’s legal, it’s super legal to kill all cells in your body, but it’s illegal to take [bleep], you know, flax seed oil, and try, you know, I’m saying, like, how is that illegal, understand, like, how is that, how is this legal, the thing that kills everything, but it’s illegal to do anything but that?

Yeah, you see how that’s little, little [bleep] up. It’s a little weird, it’s a little weird, it’s fued up, like how, it’s a little weird to me, if chemo, like, was, what I don’t like is how much money is behind it. So much money, right? So [bleep] much money, right? Like, I get, I get trying to be a good dude, and you have all the money to do it, and you want to go, okay, let’s do, let’s do research for cancer. I mean, let’s just say Michael J. Fox was a billionaire, obviously he would leave all his money towards research for Parkinson, yeah, you know what I mean, and that makes sense, yeah, cuz he’s got it, yeah, and it makes sense, and he wants to help it, you know.

Did Rock have cancer? No, but that’s the problem, that’s what I’m saying, is he just left it to an aig, a vager, like his trust, of a foundation that then is run by, do whatever you want for the rest of time. And here’s some other weird statistics about that, right, is, so he only had $23 million at his death. Yeah, yeah, but yet there’s 174 people that are heirs to his fortune, his 23 million, it’s like 6,500 bucks each, 174 people, wow, are the quote unquote, you could consider them heirs to the fortune. Yeah, it’s just a lot, lot of money behind it, it’s a lot of mone, so much money, there’s so much, there’s so much manipulation, there’s so much, like, and nowadays is very pro, it’s very relevant about, you know, how many people are on drugs, and I don’t, I, I’m not trying to say, hey, you shouldn’t be on whatever a doctor is recommending to you, I don’t, I’m not saying that, I’m just saying, obviously any logical person can tell you that people as a whole are on more medication than they were a long time ago, and there, statistics on it.

Yeah, it’s pretty bas. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, 70%, this is a, this is a very gross stat, 70% of grown adults are on some sort of medication. Yeah, if the medication you’re taking gives you more symptoms than you have for taking the medication, why are you taking, why are you taking the medication? In the US, by the way, other countries is not, no, but literally, if you look at any commercial, you’re watching TV, and at the commercial, and there’s 18 different side effects to your medication, but you’re taking the medication for one thing, but you’re getting 10 other things because taking this medic, yeah, how is this beneficial to your life?

Yeah, that’s why I’m saying, but then you have to take another medication to handle those sys. I’m not, I’m not like an anti-medication person, tak, you know, I’m not, I take Zerch, it’s great, for [bleep], awesome, I’m saying, I’m just saying, statistically I think maybe we’re getting a little out of hand, it’s a little much, it’s a little, little bit much, that’s all I’m saying. Well, I think everyone can understands, okay, like how much, which behind that is profits, is what we’re talking about. There you go. Yeah, the pharmaceutical companies make literally trillions of dollars, yeah, trillions, yeah, right, and, and they, and you know what, you know who’s behind them, and the FDA is the AMA, back to where’re, that’s right, you know, the thing that’s interesting, that this, the situation, like the, the, the machine keeps going, and then every, like, 15, 20 years, oh, well, now there’s a big suit and lawsuit and people are suing people because, and now everyone’s dying of [bleep] from [bleep] this [bleep], and then, and then it happens, it goes, and it’s like, oh, 20 years later, oh, well, we were wrong on this one again, and, and there’s a big lawsuit, and then 20 years later, oh, whoopsy daisy, big lawsuit, and then everyone’s still like, oh, we’re still taking it, we’ll still taking the medicine, who get, no one questions it, it just, it’s totally normal to have a giant lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company cuz they were taking [bleep] that’s now ruined their lives, but well, the next thing’s super legit, trust me, you know, and there’s always like the happy commercial, and they’re at dinner, and they’re like, yeah, I’m having a [bleep] great time now, I’m playing football with my son, I love my life, I’m at a swim meet, and the commercial was so [bleep] weird, like I hate, it’s pretty crazy.

I mean, we keep saying that we’re not, this is not a, this is not last episode said this is not financial advice, this one I’m going to say this is not medical advice, all, all I’m trying to say, I, I mean, this is my opinion, I go to do, I go to do all the time, I do, yeah, I hardly ever go to the doctors, yeah, yeah, I actually use a lot of, honestly I don’t, natural, or do chiropractor, I do chiropractor, I take, dud, I take so many vitamins, I take hell, I’m never sick, cuz I take hella vitamins, I just take vitamins all [bleep] day, yeah, never sick.

Miller Light, Miller Light helps me out, yeah, little tequila [bleep], knock that cold out. D, are you kidding me, like God, like [bleep] the, the anis, anis, or bushes, kep me off the [bleep], off the sick, bit, just kidding, it’s a joke, you like that, butt light, you see that right there, that’s anzer. Well, I mean, here’s the, here’s the true question, because here’s the thing, I feel like Rockefeller did some good things, here’s what’s crazy, right, in, cuz we move past when John D died, yes, yeah, and then now it’s like the, the, the next generation, yeah, and this is his kids, and the Rockefeller Foundation, and then this is World War II, ooh [bleep], right, so in 1939 a drug test alliance was formed by the Rockefeller Empire and a German company called IG Farbin, wait, German company, and this is World War II, in 1939.

Oh, okay, so it’s just before, okay, wow, sketch, sketch, so after the war, so that then, 194, yes, after the war, IG Farbin was dismantled as a German company and then turned into multiple companies, wow, so it’s all the biggest companies, yes, and so this was the original pharmaceutical company in Germany, IG Farber, which is also known as Bayer, holy [bleep], right, Germany [bleep] up, and they, they tried to take over the world, tons of uh, petrochemical, petol baby, but I mean, this is the branch of all those things, and this is why you hear all those stories of Nazi uh, operation too, like, uh, toothpick, you hear all these stories of people who have Nazi history, oh, of course, Nazi ties, and I think there’s, that’s, that’s probably a whole another podcast, there’s so many, there’s, that’s right, so many.

I actually saw this recent, this recent reel, and apparently there was, in Canada, there was, they gave this dude an award, and was this whole [bleep] thing, and he was helping Ukrainian guys, but it turns out this guy was a [bleep] SS [bleep] captain, he was creating, doing war, war crimes in Poland, and now Poland is trying to extradite this Guy, there was a lot, like, [bleep], this guy, there’s a lot, it’s a crazy number of Nazi, I guess Nazi supporters who left Germany, yeah, they, they, they try to take the easy way out, like imagine you take a, a ple deal, let’s say you’re in part of a crime, and, you know, something, take a ple deal, hey, I’ll tell you what I need, but all these Nazi scientists, I know, like, I’m really smart, look, I’ll [bleep] tell, I’ll tell you, like, I’ll tell you what you need, but I also, I’ll work for you, and the government’s like, oh, this sounds good, this is sexy, this is a sexy deal.

Going forward from there, it became, whether or not Rockefellers and JP Morgan Chase, they all were tied into these pharmaceutical companies going forward. Oh, of course, and then they’re, and then they start pushing the AMA [bleep], and they’re like, hey, you know, Bear and Brist Myers Squib, and, like, hey, guess what, you know, we’ll supply you with the raw materials to make your [bleep], as long as we make our, you know, this particular type of medicine only, the thing that works, right, so everyone wins, like, we win, you win, and the public loses. And then the end, or I don’t want to say the end, but then the next leg of this marathon was the establishment of the American Psychiatric Association and the DSM.

Yeah, so, and so JP Morgan Chase tied in with that, and then here we are in present day, and so it’s like a whole spiderweb of, see, history, I, and I don’t know if it’s, it’s, if it’s just, oh, it’s your grand, great grandfather’s thing, and then it just, that’s how you are here, you know. Think the, the whole, the American Psychiatric Association and all that, I think that’s potentially the worst, because that is the only thing, at least, at least from the medical side they have proven results, and even though AMA there, but in terms of on the psychiatric side there’s actually no real proven results, and it’s, it’s all, it’s all like a kind of a guessing game and a schmorgus board of, like, hopefully this works, hopefully that works, and it’s, it’s not a really defined science, and no one really knows, yeah, but they keep pushing [bleep], trying to figure it out.

You take a sixth grade science class, and you’re, we’re going to give you like unlimited power, but I keep figuring [bleep] out, and they’re, okay, what’s crazy is they keep, like, trying to like figure [bleep] out, but, like, nothing ever really works, like, really, what’s crazy is that it went from the beginning, and then it went, oh, this is quackery, which is like homeopathic, and then it went to the science, and, like, and then the end of it it, like, quackery, yeah, it went back in, it’s like, qu, full circle of weird. You know, the thing is tested, it’s actually a testament to their PR kind of, end, the fact that the PR, especially on the, the, the psychiatric association side, is so, is so good, that you’re, you’re willing, you are willing and able, and you pay to get something that literally doesn’t give you proven results at all, and you’re paying, you’re paying for it, you’re paying, some it does, but some it doesn’t, no, you’re paying for it, it’s like a high, and then, and then you’re getting the thing that sucks about it is, and I mentioned earlier, cu you’ll see it on the commercials, and that’s the one thing, the fact that people aren’t pissed off about it is weird, because, like, you watch the commercial, the side effects are, oh, oh, you’re feeling bad, you’re feeling down, well, take praxia, and then, you know, side effects are depression, death, and all of a sudden, like, but you’re taking this to cure depression, but the effect of, so you’re taking something to cure depression, but the side effect of the thing you’re taking to cure depression is depression, right, and I’m like, how is that, how does that compute?

Side effects may include anal blades with razor blades that may cut your anus to bleed out and die, and how can you not be more depressed with anal bleeding, but than you are with your girlfriend broke up with you? But at the end, they’re, and death, and death, and wait, but I, but I, I just don’t like, wait, I’m taking this to be less depressed, but I will get depressed by taking this, and people, I think I’ll pay for it, it does seem like, I think I’ll pay for it right now, it does seem, you kind of just, they’re just guessing, it’s a guess, dude, it’s like, or like, or you know, this helped one in 16 people, all right, well, maybe, yeah, like 17% of people felt slightly better after taking this, up, this is not a good enough for, for me feel good.

Yeah, we did too, I know, it’s like, I know it’s wor, like I had a, I had a better day on Tuesday, and, like, I felt better, and they sweet, all right, this is why people have wine at 4:00 in the afternoon, like wine works, just claws, I felt way better after, like, 17 of them, like, holy [bleep], it does seem wild, it doesn’t seem like the original attention, which was a systematic approach to medicine, making it legit, and, like, so that’s why I feel like anytime an extraordinary amount of money is involved, it’s, it’s always gna get [bleep] weird, and that’s why the government got [bleep] weird, there’s an absorbent amount of money involved, and [bleep] got [bleep] weird, and then now you get in these associations, there’s all this money being thrown around, all this influence, trying to standardize things, and it’s got, it just got [bleep] weird, it got super weird, yeah, and now we’re trapped in it, we’re trapped in the weirdness, we can’t [bleep] get out, out, there’s, it’s, there’s too much money at stake, there’s way too much.

Well, so, where, where do you find yourself with, I mean, first and foremost, John D Rockefeller, I, we’ll take out the other Rockefeller lineage later, but John D, I feel like John D was a ruthless businessman, and, and I don’t actually fault him for that, like I don’t, I don’t think he’s wrong for doing what he did in terms of business ventures, because why wouldn’t you, if I was him, I, I probably would have done the same thing, right, or power to him, I guess, no, power to him, for, you know, for being a very shrewd and diligent businessman, but I feel like in his later years, on the end, on the end, he was like, okay, I’m going to start trying to influence things on a much more broader scale, I’m going to try to influence education, I’m going to try to influence medicine, I’m going to try to influence politics, I, and he did all this at, like, 70, no, exactly, not, no, it wasn’t, he was 25, he, like, yeah, yeah, and he was like, 2, funny, I want to make as much money as [bleep] possible, I’m going to make all the money, right, and then he got, I think he got bored, and he was, I need a bigger play other than making money, yeah, and so I feel like he started to try to influence all these other sectors, and I feel like at that point he saw, he was, oh [bleep], I can have a much bigger influence on this planet than I anticipated, so he’s, okay, I think I’m going to try to go for it all, I made a sweet life and I crushed it, he’s like, but I think I can, I can actually mold this into my own thing, I can mold this earth into what I think it should be.

Yeah, isn’t it weird that you would want to do that after you’re gone, dude, it’s so weird. What I mean, like, like, cuz obviously none of that is going to happen when he’s, it’s life, yeah, it’s like, why do you even give a [bleep]? Yeah, I’m 84, and none of this is going to happen until, you know, what my plan is, like, I’m going to [bleep] be like rich as [bleep], Jordan will never know, and then eventually I’m going to like, I’m going to like drive my [bleep] McLaren off a mountain, and then she’s going to magically have all this money, what the [bleep] happened, I’m be like, I love you baby, like, got, know, is that the crazy part, it’s so weird, he’s like, I want 200 years after my death I want to be running [bleep].

All right, so hor, where are you at on Rockefeller? All right, so here’s what I think, yeah, there’s actually not that much of a conspiracy behind this guy, you know, it’s pretty straightforward, it’s pretty straightforward, like [bleep], he’s piece of [bleep], little, he’s a [bleep], he was so ruthless, he didn’t give a [bleep] about anything over profits, anything over making money and controlling and whatever, he didn’t care about his workers, he didn’t care anything, right, except for just profits, and so I think, just, you know, that, um, obviously gave him a lot more power, um, and towards the end, right, when he was forced to break up and do all these things, that’s when, uh, he started, what else can I take a control of, and that’s when, you know, we were just talking about the whole medical situation, other industries, banking, I don’t know, I mean, there’s, there’s not like that much of a conspiracy, because this is all very actually well documented, you know.

But do you think, do you think he, he manipulated the medical, I do think, industry to where we, today, I think it was, uh, more, you know, his kids and him, you know, because of him, yeah, the foundation, the kids, I think that it was like Sean was saying, it was very much to make them even more, even, you, even more money, it’s crazy, so much money, and forever, and the perpetuity, but then it just morphed into its own [bleep] animal, the AMA and the FDA and all this [bleep], and then, you know, when there’s [bleep] money involved, that’s like when the wrong decisions get made, is, know, right, especially the ones That didn’t make it in the first place, meaning the kids, oh yeah, no offense to the kids, eh, but you, you know, you go down generations, and then they just given $100 million, and hey, they go, how, how do we keep it, yeah, how do I make more, how do we perpetuate this, million, yeah, so there you go, I mean, all right, I mean, I give them props, for, for sure, props.

Well, you know, I don’t condone, I don’t like the way he did it, because you could be a capitalist and you don’t have to be [bleep], [bleep] piece of [bleep] ruthless [bleep], like you could be, right, you could be ruthless, well, yeah, okay, fine, you could be ruthless, no, you be ruthless in business, but not in, like, human, that’s right, human ethics, like, yeah, exactly. This is our 50th episode. Oh, what? Yeah, [bleep] hell yeah, J, you know, we didn’t even bring that up, but this, oh my God, big 50, this is our 50th episode, and, uh, I still just don’t understand the desire, or, to like rule it all, I don’t, no, after you’re gone, I know, it’s like you’re dead, like, no, I, I feel like there was a lot of weird importance on keep going the bloodline, you know, back in the ancient days, like the kings, and, like, Game of Thrones, the [bleep] bloodline, yes, like, but who, like, it doesn’t, who gives a [bleep], my credit cards are wipes, I know, done, well, now it’s like your kids get on, like, I’m sorry, like [bleep] whoopsies, but you’re not even going to be there to notice, I know, sucks for you, I know, I also had credit card debt.

I just find it wild, I mean, I understand leaving your family to be okay, to be set up, yeah, I mean, he was always the richest guy on the earth, no interest in going, this is what my legacy will be, hundred years from now, take over the earth, I know, it just seems wild. But it’s also, my thing I thought was weird is, why did he need to push profits that much? You were already so killing it to where you already gave it away. I know, but why did you need to manipulate medicine to be petroleum only? I know, he’s, you know what, I can make, I’m going to keep, I can make a little bit more, like, it’s like, nobody, already gave it away, we already established that in the, in the 20s, he gave away $250 million, I don’t even understand, doesn’t make any sense, but he’s like, no, I’ll make it back, I’ll make it back immediately.

No, it is wild, I would go with, I kind of, I’m kind of on board with Jorge, you know, the concept that I don’t think he was that bad, but I do believe that his foundation that he left, oh yeah, it was weird, yeah, and he leaves a quarter billion dollars to this foundation, in the foundation, they’re all, I mean, maybe the daughter was wanting to do good, you know, who, who led it, Abby, Babs, ORS, Abigail, yeah, and she wanted to do good, maybe, but then the others were like, okay, well, obviously we need to keep paying this forward, and there, well, he gave o’s money, we need to make this money back, yeah, yeah, so then they started doing some nefarious actions, especially during the war with, uh, IG Farbin and Bayer, and that sort of thing, and that’s when they transgressed into the darkness, you know, and you know, guess the only way, like, I do, I’m tracking, but the way I defer is, like, I think that John D was, I, I do think he was the architect, I think, I think this was his, like, cuz he left, maybe he sat them down in his study with the pipe and with the mahogany tables, he’s so old, he’s like barely moving, he’s like in the leather, in the fireplace, in the leather chair, like servants coming in with, like, whiskies and [bleep], no, no, Brandy, like a pair of teeths, like, [bleep], listen children, I know seven of your brothers died in childbirth, but listen to me.

Did he have the accent? Listen to me, this planet is ours, Rockefeller will be known for the ages. I feel, I feel like J Roeller is, like, the personification of Darth Vader, yeah, the evil, I know, he’s like the emperor, that’s what’s crazy is, is unlimited power, that’s what’s wild though, is that in all of this, you know, I did a couple audio books and podcasts and stuff like that, and not a lot of people had anything bad to say about him. Well, yeah, obviously, other than he was so motivated, and, like, he was so, he worked so hard, it’s, you know, it’s, it’s like an interview, when you’re like, they’re like, what’s your biggest weakness, you’re like, I’m too committed, and you’re like, yeah, that’s [bleep], you’re like, I, okay, I get it, but, like, what’s your actual weakness?

I’m, I care too much about my life, they’re like, [bleep], come on, like, what’s a real weakness. So basically there’s nobody who really got to him, well, obviously, I mean, than his family, anyone, anyone who’s writing about him is probably on the take, mhm, they probably got a little taste, yeah, Joh G Rock, what, the most upstanding white male in the history of America all time, yeah, he didn’t try to, man, live until he was 98, he didn’t try to manipulate the markets and [bleep], have a, you know, completely control an entire industry, of course not, no, he was a good guy, me, his, his peak wealth was during the greatest depression that America’s ever experienced, and obviously he got into bed with, you know, JP Morgan, who, JP Morgan is one of the man who single-handedly orchestrated the downfall of America with the Great Depression.

No, that’s, that’s how they, that’s how they created a centralized banking system, you, you actually destroy the small banks, everyone loses their money, and they’re like, oh, well, the only, the only solution is to have a central banking system, and that’s a whole another thing. The whole another thing is, I know, one of our next episodes was, is going to be the FED, it needs to, it needs to be, because that’s when the whole five family thing is come, come into place, and the whole creation of the FED was an actual slight against the American public, and they [bleep] us, they [bleep] us so hard, they [bleep] us [bleep] in the, in the butt, like in the butt, I didn’t know where you were going with that, I’m sorry, I don’t know what else to say, but, like, if you know anything about that, we got screwed, yeah, we got screwed, and now we’re, we’re slaves to the, to the FED, we’re obviously, not, not because of us, but we’re, you know, 20 trillion in debt to the FED, right, and, you know, our politicians are, you know, looking out for us, but meanwhile we have to take more debt out to the FED, because every year the government’s going to [bleep] shut down because they can’t afford their budgets, because they’re spending too much money, and every, all the politicians are getting paid 200 grand a year, but they’re all worth 50 million or 100 million, and they’re all making these massive [bleep] stock plays, and, you know, yet they’re looking out for you, we got your best interest in mine, and meanwhile we’re paying more taxes, and we’re more poor, and we’re more [bleep], and we’re going into wars we don’t want to get into, you know, welcome to America, baby, woo, like the best, love it, the [bleep], oh, keep voting, [bleep] [bleep] sucks.

Jesus, this is why, this is why I have guns and I buy ammo, [bleep], like this is a [bleep] [bleep] show, God damn it, I love you guys, good on everybody. Yeah, look, hey, I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m not disagreeing with you, this is weird, Eric’s not disagreeing me, I’m not disagreeing with you, this is wild, I’m not disagreeing with you, everyone listen up, listen up right now, Eric’s not disagreeing with you, I’m not disagreeing with you, because I, I subscribed, I did a lot of, when I was, I don’t want to say younger, but when I was in my 20s, I loved Thas Jefferson, and I loved Constitution, and I loved Declaration of Independence, and the early America, and that whole thing, and then, and then when I got a little bit older, I got mad, and I got, exactly, talk how much it changed, yeah, and, and, and about just, it just wasn’t, it just didn’t feel like the, the, the vision, it didn’t feel like the vision that was there.

No, because we’re not in the same situation, they were in the situation, they were being super pressed, and they were like, no, never again, it was a situation like, never again, like, out, our kids aren’t going to [bleep] go through what we went through, this was, this was terrible, it sucked, and we want to, we want to make our own rules, and be free, and be happy, and be safe, right, and then, you know, they created something that 200 years later gets all [bleep] up, and they created something that has never been created on Earth. No, it, that’s why it was, America was so groundbreaking, was because the constitution of America, and freedom of everything, inalienable rights for [bleep] humans, now granted, there was a blind spot, still slavery, there’s a blind spot of slavery, but it was the start of putting things right.

No, of course, like, yeah, like, and so, but all I’m saying is, is I agree with you, and so then, fast forward, I got mad, I got mad, and I got mad, just like you, which is that things didn’t, I don’t know, they just, know, I got, at first I was, you know, all of it was fake, and it was [bleep], yeah, but then I realized maybe it just turned, no, right, does that make sense, instead of me thinking the original thing was [bleep], I just realized that the path turned, and that path turned in the early 1900s, no, the path turned, and then it became like, it’s a slow, it’s a slow erosion It’s a slow erosion of the, the people’s power, obviously the, the whole point of the Constitution is, give, is to give the public the power, the people have the power, right, and then it’s been to slow, slowly erode away, and then, then you believe that you don’t actually have power at all, right, and you need, you need somebody else to exert the power for you, and then you stop, you stop believing that you’re in charge, and then they, because that’s literally, it’s almost the same situation as it was in England.

Okay, the king is the power, right, and, like, the people don’t actually have the power, the king tells you what to do, and you’re like, okay, cool, so now it’s your politicians tell you what to do, and you’re, okay, cool, but we voted for you, okay, but then you’re, I don’t agree with you’re doing, we’ll deal with it, and you’re like, but isn’t the whole point of the country that we don’t have to listen to a centralized power system, cuz isn’t that what England was, a centralized power system, that’s, give us, me, give me your tax money, [bleep] [bleep], and, like, like, and they’re like, you know, whatever, shut up, do what we say, we’ll [bleep] keep taxing you, you know, taxation without representation, right, but, like, now what’s happening is we’re getting taxation with [bleep] representation, and what the [bleep], tied up, tied up representation, no, it’s like, no, like, we’re getting taxed, and then we’re sending our money overseas, but meanwhile 90% of America is struggling, we’re like, why are we sending, where’s, why are we sending the tax money to other [bleep], we have the biggest GDP on Earth, I know, meanwhile we’re like, this other country needs our money, and, like, what about us, I need the money, [bleep], can I keep my taxes, like [bleep], I’d be [bleep] gucci if I didn’t to pay tax [bleep], it’s just weird.

So now it’s like, it’s like taxation with [bleep] representation, but we’re okay with it, right, we got complacent. You guys need to just, like, just like look at it, just look, just look, just look, it’s not that hard, just look, God damn it. All right, I’m might go, there we go, we appreciate you guys, we will catch you guys next time. Yes, we will see you. Thank you so much for tuning in, thank you for subscribing, thank you for being a part of Patreon, and hopefully we don’t get too dark, but you know, sometimes we need to, hey, look it, the dark is always darkest before the dawn.

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