Welcome back to the conspiracy podcast, once again we’re going to continue with JFK. This is Jorge. Sean, hey guys, this is Eric. All right, welcome back guys, we are, uh, in the midst of, um, the Warren Commission deep, uh. We’ve, we’ve, uh, gotten to the point, so we are at essentially the Texas schoolbook depository, um, and Fritz and Day, if you remember, they were examining the rifle on the sixth floor. Oh, that’s right, the high powerered rifle. How can I forget? The building superintendent approached with information he thought should be brought to the attention of the police. So earlier, while the the police were questioning the employees, truly had observed that Lee Harvey Oswald, one of the 15 men who worked in the warehouse, was missing.

So truly provided oswal’s name, address, and general description, and there, like a pin number? Yeah, snitch, snitch. Yeah, 4, fo9, 97. No, so tiny. Uh, so he provided his address, his description, etc, and he left for Police Headquarters. He arrived at headqu shortly after two and asked two detectives to pick up the employee who is missing. Did he go to Harvey Gordon? Listen, b signal. Standing nearby were the police officers who had just arrived with a man who they arrested at the Texas school book, or I’m sorry, at the Texas theater. Yeah, right, so Fritz mentioned the name of the missing employee, and he learned at that moment somebody was already in the interrogation room, and that was Lee Harvey osal.

So essentially at The Book Depository, they said, hey, we’re missing a guy, here’s his name, address, go find him. They went to the police station, the guy was already there. Lee Harvey aswell, getting interrogated. So who picked him up? He was already there. No, like you said, he was already there getting interrogated when they went to go pick him up. He was already there. He was already there being questioned for the shooting of Officer tippet. That’s right. So at police headquarters, Captain Fritz had, uh, begun questioning Oswald, and soon after the first interrogation, FBI, Secret Service arrived and participated in that questioning as well. So they’re questioning him for the murder first, but then they realized, oh, he fit the description, he worked in the depository, all the pieces kind of started to come together.

I just want to say, I wonder, like, what power does the Secret Service actually have, like, what can they actually do, like, can they, can they arrest? They do, they have, do they have like prison cells? I have no idea what their Authority is. That’s a good question actually. I think they have jurisdiction over anything that’s related to government entities. I’m, I’ll let you continue while I look. Everyone, so the FBI is interrogating, it’s like, nope, I’m coming in, this is my guy. All right, so the, just you all know, the secret service has primary jurisdiction to investigate threats against Secret Service protectees, as well as Financial Crimes.

Weird, I don’t like, what? Okay, which include counterfeiting of US currency or other US Government obligations, forgery or theft of US Treasury checks, bonds, or other Securities, credit card fraud, te, telecommunications, and it goes on. So pretty much, yeah, but the first part says, so if it has to do, whoever, they’re prot, anything to do with secret service protectees, and then somehow they’re like in the financial crimes Division. I, I don’t know why, right? But yeah, cuz they want to keep that [bleep] secret. Good info. M, indeed, all right, right, it seems like they were given another thing with counterfeit, like their main job is protecting the guys, right, and then they’re like, hey, by the way, we don’t know where to put this.

Yeah, they’re like, nobody wants to do this. J, like Carl hanr is like part of the Secret Service, hand, hand, he’s like, knock, knock. Uh, so oswal denied having anything to do with Killing Kennedy, of course he did, but what’s interesting is that he denied having anything to do with killing the patrolman. M, so he’s Den, which is very strange, because it was, there were like four Witnesses. Yeah, you know, we walked through in the last episode, he literally killed him on a street, you know what I mean, in broad daylight, in front of everybody. The, which was like right down the street, like there is nobody disputes the evidence of him killing patrolman tippet, bro.

You killed, nobody really even knows that, like I feel like the general public doesn’t even know. Yeah, you know, and what’s interesting is like Oliver st’s movie, 10 seconds, it’s literally like one second, like it’s so fast. Poor tippet is literally murdered, he’s murdered on the streets as, as an officer, you know. I just found that weird, like it’s, is kind of bizarre, you know, like push it to the side. So worst case, even if he didn’t kill the, the president, he is a murderer. Well, no, the thing is the reason he gets pushed to side is cuz, like JFK, like the man of the time, it’s like, it’s like if I died and then like the same day, or the same, the same day, like someone substantially more important dies, like even my wife’s like, well, sorry, that’ be the worst day to die.

Keny died, you die, you’re irrelevant, like you’re, like last words, and your, your, like your spouse is like looking up at the TV, like they don’t even bury the worst. Uh, so he claimed that he was eating lunch at the time of the assassination, and then, that’s the most, that’s the most fire Alibi ever. I was eating. And then, that he spoke with his Foreman 5 to 10 minutes before he actually left the depository. So he says he was eating lunch when Kennedy got shot, and then he said, hey, I’m going to go home, to his Foreman. That’s what he says. But then I thought, I thought the guy who was running the show was like, right, this is what he says, he, he’s not here.

I know, he’s, he’s a liar. Oh, yes, yeah, there, a liar, denier, liar. Yeah, then in the interrogation he also denied that he owned a rifle. That’s, that’s stupid, play, like pictures of you with a rifle. So then when he was confronted in a subsequent interview, and you remember that picture, have you seen that picture of Oswell? The, gotot, he got the pamplets, he’s got the gun, yeah, super famous photo. Um, he CLA, he claimed that his face had been superimposed on somebody El’s body before, before this technology existed. Photosho that [bleep], brother. They’re like, we don’t have a computers, homie, you exist. Then I don’t think it was good enough to make it look that real.

Yeah, I mean, maybe they had that, like maybe in a dark room they cut it out, and then they have the little pliers, they go. My thing is like, look, I’m a, I’m mostly the believer of the conspiracies here, that doesn’t seem real to me. The supercomputers were like a building, and they’re going to like [bleep] phot that [bleep]. No way, like come on, if somebody really wanted to frame him though. I know a lot of the conspiracies are, have you, if you really look at the photo, a lot of the conspiracies are about the shadow, looks strange. Oh, oh, that’s right, okay, I have the Shadows of the rifle and what time of day it was taken, the shadow was longer, they got way more deep than I did.

I was like, it’sit him, I know, looks just like him. The problem though, is, is uh, there’s a lot of evidence that he bought the rifle. That’s true, you know what I mean? So, and so all the, all the, all the things about shadows and stuff kind of becomes, and you know, you bought it, you bought it under a phony name. You know, the last thing about that, it was like, what, you know, people do, do you see that [bleep] nowadays? It’s like that was like a old school, he’s like trying to be like, it’s like a gangster, like you know, trying to be Thug, like he’s got like a w of cash, like a gun, he’s like, like it’s so stupid.

So he was asked, so what happened is, uh, this rifle, this rifle was purchased from like a newspaper. Yeah, no, actually, you know, and uh, and it was purchased under the name Alec, Alec hell. Okay, do you know who that is? I think it’s one of his known alyses. So in his wallet is a phony ID of Alec, like a book card. Yeah, so then he’s denying having anything to do with it. Well see, I see, if we were to say something about anything, like it’d be way easier to, to do that than to do an ID. To do an ID, fake ID, than to do that, than to do.

But, but he still has a photo with a thing. So I don’t know, who knows. Yeah. And continue, please. Are you turning, Sean? I know that by the end of this I was like, I’m going to get all three of them. Don’t listen to these [bleep] losers. So during the questioning of Oswald on the third floor of the police department, more than a 100 representatives of the press, radio, and television were crowded in the hallway through which Oswald had to pass when being taken from his cell to Fritz’s office for interrogation. So reporters had to try to interview him every time he would go, like walk the hall, from where he was being held, to Fritz’s office.

Right, yeah, sir, sir, yeah, please. Between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning he appear, he appeared in the hallway 16 times. It’s a lot of interrogations. Oh no, it’s eight, cuz there, back, back, back. The, the generally confused conditions outside and inside Fritz’s office increased the difficulty of police questioning. Advised by the police that he could communicate with an attorney, Oswald made several telephone calls on Saturday in an effort to try to procure his own lawyer. And people are like, nope, not touching that with the, yeah, I think I’ll pass on that one. He discussed the matter with the president of the local bar association, who offered to obtain councel.

Oswell declined the offer, saying that he would first try to obtain counsel by himself. By Sunday morning he had yet to get a Lawyer, right? Yeah, so we’re now three days, two to three days, of homie didn’t. Yeah, that’s, that’s kind of rough. So at 7:10 p.m. on November 2, Oswald was formally advised that he had been charged with the murder of tippet. Okay, so that’s the night of, mhm, the 22nd. Several witnesses to the tippet slaying, into subsequent Flight of the gunman, had positively identified Oswald in lineups. While I feel like the lineup is the worst thing, it’s like literally, it’s, it doesn’t really hold up though, does?

Yeah, they’re like, which person wasn’t, and they’re like, [bleep] if I, like guess. Like, I feel like the lineup is the, were, thank God for forensic evidence, like thank you God for forensics. Okay so at the time, positive, uh, firearm ID evidence was not available, just so we’re all clear. Oh, they couldn’t, they couldn’t do like the, the barrel markings and [bleep], they don’t have it the way they have now. Oh yeah, they’re like, this was fire in the registered, we equivocally, from, no, it’s not even that, it’s just like the rifling, the rifling leaves a, it’s a, there’s, every rifling is different. Yeah, it’s like a [bleep] fingerprint, cuz you got to remember, he killed tippet with a revolver, yeah, not the rifle, right?

So same thing though, but it’s, it, they charged him because the, everyone saw him shoo. Yeah, there was like four Witnesses and he had a revolver that matched the caliber in the body of tippet. I mean, yeah, on his person, in the 60s, that’s like, arrest him. So at 1:30 a.m. on the next morning, he was charged with the assassination of President Kenny. They FBI traced the rifle that was found on the sixth floor of the, the schoolbook depository, to a mail order house in Chicago, which had purchased it from a distributor in New York. Approximately 6 hours later, the Chicago firm advised that this rifle had been ordered in March of that year by somebody with, by the name a hell, for shipment to PO Box 2915, in, of which that PO Box was rented by Lee Harvey Oswald.

Why was he renting? Like, that’s just so bizarre, like I have a PO Box in Dallas but I, I’m in New Orleans guys, a [bleep] Rance, man, I don’t know, Jesus Christ. It sounds like a sloppy, trying to cover up your tracks, doesn’t it? A little bit, like you’re like, all right, I’m going to order it under somebody’s name, but I need this PO box under my name, like I can’t open the PO Box by my own name. So payment for the rifle was remitted by a money order that was signed with the name a hell. See, this is, this is the whole thing, like back in the 60s you could just, it’s so, it’s so easy to do anything, because it’s all like [bleep] low Tech, carpon copy.

Like, that, that’s my whole point, that’s why I’ll probably never believe you on this, cuz it’s so, it’s not like today, like it’s so simple to be like, yeah, it’s so easy, that’s me, that’s my name. I know, I could just be like, Lee Harvey oswal, me, I’m not him. Like, so by the next night, though, this is a little, I thought this was weird, this is in the Warren report, by the next night the FBI advised Dallas Police that, a result of handwriting analysis of the documents that was signed to buy the rifle, was Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah, whatever, so we did that. They, they, they determined that in less than 24 hours from the assassination.

Yeah, which just seems pretty quick, I’m not a big believer in handwriting analysis, that’s just me personally, I watch a lot of Forensic Files, and like, I’m, I’m not, I’m just not a big guy, that’s just me personally, like even on analysis period. Yeah, just on analysis period, like even in like today’s technology, it’s like, okay, but like, I know how I write, and it’s so shitty, like, I, no one can analyze my, it’s impossible, you don’t do it the same way every time, I just scribble hieroglyphs bro, it’s like it’s something completely different. So throughout Friday and Saturday, the Dallas Police released to the public many details concerning evidence against Oswald.

Police officials discussed important aspects of the case usually in the course of impromptu and confusing press conferences that were just held in the corridor, you know. So it was like a chaotic time, things were wild, people were everywhere, people were crying, people were upset, and it’s in the corridor, and, well, a lot of people have probably seen like the video, where, at least the images of, that way there, right, that’s where you got killed. I think, I guess we’ll get into that. Yeah, yeah, I think it was the, that was the basement, that was the basement. Yeah, spoiler, spoiler, don’t listen to, don’t listen to that, folks.

Edit, edit. Um, it’s literally like two sentences down, be, you, I know, we’re spoiler for right now. No, but I mean, it was a crazy time and, and, and what was really interesting was nobody seemed to know who had jurisdiction over what. It was a very emotional time too, like there was so much hate. Yeah, you know, they had killed, this was, this the Soviet Union, was this the mafia, was this, you know, like, all just to make it even more intense, like there was no like Netflix back then, like this was like your [bleep] whole life was like this case. Yeah, nothing else, you, there’s nothing else on TV, like nothing else on the radio, but this.

Yeah, exactly. So a lot of things actually, if you go back and, and look, and, and listen to the news media, a lot of them are wrong, there’s like, they just saidong random [bleep]. Yeah, they said wrong names, they said wrong timeline, and they really confused the [bleep] out of everybody, you know what I mean, cuz it was chaos. It would be like, I heard someone say this, like, like, uh, you brought up in the DB Cooper episode, you brought up that his name’s not even DB Cooper. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s a perfect example, it’s, it’s a news reporter who just was like throwing [bleep] together, like Rand, like, oh, this is chaos, call him DB Dan, something, they just want to be the first one to get the news out, even if it’s not right.

Exactly. So at the urgings of the newsman, and of chief of police Jesse Curry, they brought Oswald to a press conference in the police assembly room shortly after midnight, on, of the day oswal was arrested, the assembly room was crowded with newsmen who had come to Dallas from all over the country, they shouted questions at oswal. They, you know, flashing cameras, and those, those cameras were crazy then. Oh, that’s when they like, a [bleep] light bulb in there that explodes when you take a picture, like. And, uh, later on, you can see that among this group was a 52-year-old Dallas Nightclub operator named Jack Ruby.

Jack Ruby, so Jack, Jack was strangely obsessed with it all, like the whole thing, like he was there at the beginning, like when it, when the assassination happened, he was literally just hanging out at the police station, hanging out wherever he could, just to get exposure, yeah, all the info and all the, I don’t know, you know, it was a strange thing. So anyways, on Sunday morning, November 24th, Arrangements were made for Oswald to transfer from the city jail to the Dallas County Jail, which is one mile away. The news media had been informed on Saturday night that this transfer would occur. Why, like [bleep], just so you guys know, we’re going to move it to be there, like why?

Like at that time, everybody’s obsessed, at that time the amount of threats coming into the news, or to the police station, were, were huge, yet they’re going to let everyone know we’re taking them out at this time. Nonetheless, on Sunday morning, television, radio, newspaper, they all crowded into the basement to record just the transfer, the one, M, transfer, and this was viewed through television cameras, and Oswald would emerge from a door in front of the cameras and proceed to the transfer vehicle. To the right of the cameras was a down ramp from Main Street on the North, to the left was an up ramp leading to Commerce Street.

The armored truck in which Oswald was to be transferred, arrive shortly after 11:00 a.m. Police officials then decided, however, that an unmarked police car would be preferable for the trip because of its greater speed and maneuverability. Yet they have alert everyone that this is what, every moment, that’s so stupid. At approximately 11:20 a.m., Oswald emerged from the basement jail office flanked by detec IV on either side and behind him. He took a few steps toward the car and was in the glaring light of all the television cameras. Suddenly a man darted out from an area on the right of the cameras where the newsman had been assembled, the man was carrying a Colt 38 revolver in his right hand, and while Millions were watching on TV, he moved quickly to within a few feet of Oswalt, he fired one shot into oswalt’s stomach.

Oswell groan with pain as he fell to the ground and quickly lost Consciousness. Within 7 Minutes, Oswald was then at Parkland Hospital, this is where JFK died, he was there within 7 minutes. He never regained Consciousness and was pronounced dead at 10:07 p.m. That’s from a shot, the stomach, that’s annoying. Yeah, single shot, and this is, this was on live TV, this was the chaos of all of this, everybody was wrapped up in the assassination of JFK. What’s happening, okay, now we’ve got it under control, nope, [bleep] is not under control. Pop, pop, Killer’s Dead, live, telion, not pop, it’s pop pop, single pop, single pop.

So the man who killed Oswald was Jack Ruby, he was instantly arrested and minutes later confined in a Cell on the fifth floor of the Dallas jail. In interrogation, he denied that the killing of osal was in any way connected to the killing of JFK. Okay, so I just wanted to kill him just cuz, just because I felt like. I, he says though, he says though, it had nothing to do with, in any way Connected with a conspiracy involving the assassination of JFK. But he killed him, because he killed JFK, because then he later on said, he said he killed Oswald in a temporary fit of depression and rage over JFK’s death.

Okay, I, I thought he want, take him out and silence him. I see. Yes, so he was just saying, I killed him because I was mad and I was upset, and that’s what happened. So Ruby was transferred the following day to the county jail without notice to the press. They learned their lesson. And he was trans, yeah, and he was indicted for the murder of Oswald by the state of Texas on November 26. He was found guilty the next year in March and sentenced to death. Oh, it’s Texas, that’s right. But I mean, as of, so this is the Warren Commission, so this, as of 1964, his case is pending appeal.

Still, no, not today, but this is the waren commission, that, years later, yeah, no, this is everything that we’re basing on is a Warren Commission, this came out. Yeah, exactly, it came out 3 years later. Yeah, so it wasn’t, he wasn’t dead then. Yeah, okay good, so there we go, that was the, the story of the Warren Commission. Okay, yeah, now I’m going to read, I’m going to read what they wrote at the end, which is the conclusion of the Warren Commission. Okay, okay, we are not liable for anything we’ve written. This, so there’s an entire paragraph that I xed out, because I don’t want to read it, cuz it’s all like blubbery, boring, it’s all, it’s like, it’s like we are NCL, we are held responsible, the facts relating to the proceedings, and you know, that whole like, yeah, you can’t sue us.

Yeah, so here’s their, here’s the waren commission conclusion. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connelly were fired from the sixth floor window in the Southeast corner of the Texas schoolbook depository. This is determined based on the following. A, Witnesses at the scene of the assassination s a rifle being fired from the sixth floor, and some witnesses saw a rifle in the window immediately after the shots were filed, fired. B, the nearly whole bullet that was found on Governor Connelly’s stretcher at Parkland Memorial Hospital, and placed, you know, this untouched bullet and a stretcher, and the two bullet fragments found in the front seat of the limousine, were fired from, from the 6 1 12 mm man liquor carono rifle found on the sixth floor of the depository building, convenient to the exclusion of all other weapons.

Sorry. C, the three used cartridge cases found near the window on the sixth floor at the southeast corner of the building were fired from the same rifle which fired the above described bullet and the fragments. Getting a cartridge, by the way, is the easy, they go to the [bleep] gun range bro, they’re just sitting on the floor, pick them up. D, the windshield in the presidential limousine was struck by a bullet fragment on the inside surface of the glass but was not penetrated. Okay, how does that make it from the sixth floor? It isn’t. Okay. E, sorry, so E, the nature of the bullet wounds suffered by President Kennedy and Governor col, and the location of the car at the time of the shots, established that the bullets were fired from above and behind the presidential limousine, striking the Pres, president and the governor as follows.

Okay, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, President Kennedy was struck by a bullet which entered at the back of his neck and exited through the lower front portion of his neck, causing a wound which would not necessarily have been lethal. Yeah, the president was struck a second time by a bullet which entered the right rear portion of his head, causing a massive and fatal wound. Oh yeah. Connelly was struck by a bullet which entered on the right side of, of his back, and traveled downward through his right side of his chest, exited below his right nipple, and then hit his leg. This bullet then passed, yeah, this bullet then passed through his right wrist.

Oh yeah, his wrist too, entered his left thigh where it caused a superficial W, and then, and then bounced off the ground and then up through his face. What, you say, but that was, that was the one that hit the president first, wasn’t it? Yeah, okay, no wait, that hit, the went through the president, then went through him, then went through his hand, then went through his, yes. Yeah, okay, now F, what, we were just on E, we were just on e, e, now we’re on F, I know it was super abrupt, F, that. I know, F, so F, there is no credible evidence that the shots were fired from the triple underpass ahead of the motorcade or any of their location, this is, and I’m adding this last part, the grassy null, yeah, obviously, that’s, that was the only other thing, we’ll get into that.

The weight of the evidence indicates that there were three shots fired, although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the commission to, to determine just which shot hit Connelly. There is persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the president’s throat also cau, caused connell’s wounds. Right, however, connell’s testimony and certain other factors have given rise to some difference of opinion as to this probability, but there is no question in the mind of any member of the commission that all the shots which caused the president and connell’s wounds were fired from the sixth floor of the depository. So they’re kind of covering their ass here, they’re saying that Connelly then gave interviews later saying, I heard X shots, I heard it from this location, you know, I don’t know, but what they’re saying is, we don’t know.

Yeah, they’re like, plausible deniability. Yeah, they’re saying we, we don’t know, what he’s saying, we don’t know, all we do know is at the end of the day they were shot from The Book Depository, we’ll get into that too. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Connelly were fired by Lee Harvey Oswald. That was a pretty definitive statement, I mean, that was, that wasn’t like a weir, not sure, that is word for word. Yeah, this conclusion is based upon the following. I thought we, they thought they just gave us that. Well, no, they were, they were laying out, they were laying out what, what happened.

Yeah, what happened, now this is why they think Lee Harvey killed them. Gotcha. Yeah, I’m, I’m tracking it. So this conclusion is based upon the following. A, the man licker carono, 6 1 12 mm Italian rifle, from which the shots were fired, was owned by and in possession by, by Oswalt. I love that, the man licker, I know, got to get me one of those. What does that mean in Italian? I have [bleep] idea, we can use some listener help on that one. What man, right, in what is maner in Italia? So B, Oswald carried this rifle into the depository building on the morning of the 22nd.

Mhm. C, Oswald at the time of the assassination was present at the window from which the shots were fired. D, shortly after the assassination, the man licker carano rifle belonging to oswal was found partially hidden behind or between some cartons on the sixth floor, and the improvised paper bag in which Oswald brought the rifle to the depository was found close by the window from which the shots were fired. E, based on testimony of the experts and their analyses of films of the assassination, the commission has concluded that a Rifleman of Lee Harvey oswal’s cap, cap abilities, could have fired the shots from the rifle used in the assassination within the time the elapse time of the shooting.

He said capabilities, like, weren’t his capabilities, like [bleep], next episode we’re going to talk about Lee Harvey oswalt’s capabilities as a sharpshooter. Sharpshooter, and by the way, man lier, man lier, is, it’s, it’s mana, it’s it’s German, is a stands for like male, masculine, manly, or Manish. H, okay, yeah, M, strange that it’s an Italian weapon in a German name. Yeah, well, the, yeah, it’s like Ferdinand mana was an Austrian engineer and Small Arms designer. Okay, designed by Ferdinand mana, after his name, right, there you have it, all right, there you go. The commission has concluded further that Oswald possessed the capability with a rifle which enabled him to commit this assassination.

F, oswal lied, yeah, oswal lied, lied to the police after being arrested concerning important matters. Okay, so that’s part of their evidence, is he is a liar, there was hundreds of millions of people who have lied to the police, FYI, I have lied to the police before. GE, I, I killed JFK. This is something, this is something that I found, this next point is something I found that almost 80, 90% of people don’t know, independent fact Checkers. Okay, G, Oswald had attempted to kill Major General Edward Walker on April 10th, the same year, thereby demonstrating his disposition to take human life. Wait, but he wasn’t arrested for attempted murder?

Yeah, what’s up with that? Yeah, so they, they know that he did it, but they didn’t arrest him for attempted murder on, on a [bleep] General, attempted murder on a general, and he wasn’t arrested. I don’t think they had the evidence to actually, well, then how do they know he did it if they don’t have the evidence, if he’s not able to. That’s also what we’re going into next episode, these are all like, so next episode is all about Lee Harvey Oswalt, theend, literally his birth to his death, all, all the things. So but I just have noticed that nobody knows that, like six months earlier, in the warring commission, at least, he is accused of trying to assassinate another figure.

Oh, this is like an OJ thing, they’re like, well, we all know he did it, but like, no, it would be, no, no, it would be like if OJ tried to kill like his girlfriend 6 months earlier, yeah, then, then he kills, yeah, yeah, like or maybe not, yeah, not exactly, but you know, he’s he, K, tries to kill somebody, kill like a side piece, and then many, kills. Go, yeah, Oswalt killed Dallas police officer JD Tippet, approximately 45 minutes after the assassination. This conclusion upholds the finding that Oswald fired the shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Connelly, and is supported by these. That’s another thing too, is like, really, like, 45 minutes after you kill the president, you’re to shoot a cop, like, it’s a little desperate, man.

He was desperately getting away, but he wasn’t like, they weren’t chasing him down for that, wasn’t he like a [bleep]? He was freaking out. Yeah, he was freaking out, yeah, whatever. ER, and, and, and the description already had gotten out, remember, five, five, I mean, how many, 5 seven, white, 140 lb dude, more than you can imagine. Yeah, in the’ 60s, that was every white male in America. 80% of the population, literally, it’s like everyone. Yeah, so just a couple points that they put in here about why they believe that he killed tippet, right? Two eyewitnesses saw that tippet shooting, and seven eyewitnesses heard the shots and saw him leave with the revolver, and started giving us like false fact, he told us, four Witnesses, liar, seven people saw him leave with a gun in his hand.

I thought they said they heard the shots. No, two saw him shoot. Oh okay, so two saw him shoot, two, I’ve heard four and I’ve heard seven so far. Consp, Eric is the conspiracy. Yeah, I’m on the CIA P, that’s the whole point of this podcast, you can do a background check on the podcaster. Sorry, continue. So, uh, okay, so again, two people saw him shoot tippet, understood, seven people saw him, or heard the shots and then saw him leave with the gun in his hand. So these nine Witnesses identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the man they saw. I believe he killed Tipp for sure.

Okay, 100%, I’m like on board with that, go, progress folks. B, the cartridge cases found at the scene of the shooting were fired from the revolver that Oswald had in possession. See, the revolver in O, Oswald’s possession at the time of his arrest was purchased by and belonged to him. Y, sure. D, oswal’s jacket was found along the path of the FL light taken by the gunman as he fled from the scene. So homie literally just took his jacket off and threw it on theor, this man is like desperately trying to get caught, here’s my I, Dro, Dro his swallet all the dead body, Jesus, fake ID, [bleep], I better leave this here.

I know, they can never find this, sun. So within 80 minutes of the assassination, within 35 minutes of tippet being killed, Oswald resisted arrest at a theater, attempting, I mean, this is, they say attempting to shoot another police officer, but he didn’t, he really just kind of like was, son, yeah, it was like, f, I’m not, not resistant, I’m not resist. So with that, the commission has reached the following conclusions concerning oswal’s interrogation and the detention by the police. Yeah, we did not water, now we’re, so you see the segments that they did it in, they did it in, what happened when Kennedy was killed, what happened to tippet, and now what happened in the interrogation.

Yeah, cuz they’re going to tell us exactly what happened to the interrogation, like, 100%. A, we didn’t break his fingers, I swear, except for the force required to affect his arrest, Oswald was not subjected to physical coercion by any law enforcement. I love how they’re like, oh trust, out, it’s like there’s no cameras, like we promis, we didn’t kick him in the balls a couple times to get him to tell the truth. He was advised that he could not be compelled to give any information, and that any statements made by him might be used against him in a court of law. Yeah, it’s called Miranda rights.

He was advised of his right to a counsel, Miranda rights, he was given the opportunity to obtain counsel of his own choice, Miranda Right, and was offered a legal assistance by the Dallas Bar Association, he rejected all of them. I thought you said he was, say, he, reading what it says. No, cuz you said he was trying to find counil, they offered him that, he said hey, I would rather find my own first, and now, like he rejected. He did not, what, a lawyer he rejected it, word for word it says, which he rejected. Okay, there, I don’t know. Yeah, they said he has a right to be alive, rejected, reject that right, sir.

B, newspaper, radio, and television reporters were allowed uninhibited access to the area through which Oswald had to pass when he was moved from his cell to interrogation room in other section of the building, thereby subjecting Oswald to harassment, and I think that was a stupid play for them, creating chaos, uh, chaotic conditions which were not conducive to orderly interrogation or the protection of the rights of a prisoner. See, okay, at least they admitted that, that’s cool, cuz that’s true. It’s like kind of [bleep] up. Yeah, like he was branded the killer before, oh, before, before he was even like, there was no trial, he was, they’re still interrogating him.

Yeah, which is against the law. Oh, like that’s, that’s against, like, America stands for the brand. Yeah, like you’re branded guilty before you have a right to a fair trial, charge. Yeah, exactly, that’s yeah, but he wasn’t, he wasn’t found guilty, he was just chared. No, but no, but like, cuz look, you, no, if, if they, if the media paints you already, everyone’s like, he’s 100% the killer, there’s no fair trial, you, every jury is going to be tainted, every juror is going to be like, you automatically are guilty. Okay, so it’s not, control what the media puts out there, well, you can, Ian, they should, chaos, that part, they, yeah, you can try to subdue it in order to try to get a filter, the whole point is like, you got to at least attempt.

Yeah, but now they’re like, The Killers, je, make room for the killer, here he comes. Okay good, so, see, the numerous statements, and sometimes erronous statements made to the Press by various local law enforcement officials during this period of, of confusion and disorder in the station, would have presented serious obstacles to obtaining an actual Fair trial for Oswald. Exactly, we were just talking about, to the extent that the information was erroneous or misleading, it helped create doubts, speculations, and fears in the mind of the public, which might otherwise not have Arisen, if they were not there. You see, maybe that’s why I think they, maybe that’s why he got shot, they’re like, [bleep], this going to be a mistrial, God damn it.

Like, so then the next one, or the next section is, the commission has reached the following conclusions regarding, or concerning, the killing of oswal by Jack Ruby, right? Okay, so A, ruby entered the basement of the Dallas Police Department shortly after 11:17 a.m. and killed Harvey, or Lee Harvey oswal, at 11:21 a.m. Okay, well, sorry, real quick, yeah, you mean to tell me this sh, cuz I’ve seen the video, it’s packed, and somehow he shows up 3 minutes prior, and like, it’s like showing up to like Universal, and like you’re like, [bleep] a [bleep] fast pass, and like walk past the line. And you know what’s funny is, um, and I don’t have the notes for it, but I did read somewhere, an interview with Ruby years later, where he talks about how he, he couldn’t have been involved in a conspiracy, because the happen stance of the situation couldn’t have been planned, because it was, by not luck, but by year, like planned, you couldn’t have planned, being perfectly, he killed him at that moment because it was perfectly given to him, the moment, like, no, he, he was like, it, it was impossible, like the circumstances were impossible to, I could [bleep] replicate that [bleep] like tonight, impossible, he knew what time he was coming out.

I know, the police at 11:33 on the duck, we’re going to take him out, I’ll pull out the notes, we’ll have, we’ll have a police officer to each side and in the back, leaving his front fully exposed, it’s impossible. Okay, now you’re going to love this next part. So B, although the evidence on Ruby’s means of Entry is not conclusive, the weight of the evidence indicates that he walked down the ramp leading from Main Street to the basement of the police department, wi open. What a weird statement, so basically what they’re saying is, is that we don’t know how he got, they don’t, they don’t, the evidence is not conclusive, but they think that’s how he got in.

Yeah, yeah, I love that part, I like, look, it’s super complicated. S, see, there’s no evidence to support the rumor that Ruby may have been assisted by any members of the Dallas Police Department to kill Oswald. D, the Dallas Police Department’s decision to transfer Oswald to the county jail in full public view was unsound. Yeah, was [bleep] stupid. The arrangements made by the police department on Sunday morning, only a few hours before the attempted transfer, was, were inadequate. Of critical importance was the fact that the news media representatives and others were not excluded from the basement, even after the police were notified of threats to Oswald’s life, like everyone wants to kill him bro.

These deficiencies contributed to the death of Lee Harvey Oswald. The commission has found no evidence that either Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby was part of any conspiracy, domestic or foreign, to assassinate President Kennedy. Wasn’t, wasn’t, wasn’t Jack Ruby like in the mob though? He was not in the mob, he was a nightclub owner who had many nefarious connection. I mean, if you were like, like, like just imagine you’re a strip club owner, who’s going to, who’s going to come in there, who, who frequen, also, also it’s debatable on if you call them your friends. Well, for him, what I mean, yeah, they come in, you go, okay, your friends who pay to be, yeah, yeah, give tony, Tanya, you know, like that’s, that’s about the extent of it, you know.

Okay, good, so A, the commission has found no evidence that anyone assisted Oswald in planning or carrying out the assassination. In this connection it is Thoroughly investigated, thoroughly, among other factors, the circumstances in the planning of the motorcade route From Dallas, the hiring of Oswald at the book deposit on October 15th, literally like a month earlier he was hired there, the method by which, wait, real quick, when did they, when did they publish the route? Remember they told everyone, um, it’s back in the earlier episode. Yeah, we’re to look, I think it’s about two weeks. Yeah, because if he, two or three weeks, then, what, then, okay, he gets the, he gets the job a month before, and then they publish the route two weeks before, like, it’s close, it’s close, cuz like otherwise it’d be like, what if you just wanted a job, like I was like trying to pay the rent.

Yeah, that’s, we’ll look that up, we’ll get back to you guys on, we’ll look that up, we’re going to do an, we’re going to do an episode on vantage point. He got lucky, oh [bleep], there, get my rifle. He’s like, I mean, it sounds like the job is like working on Burger King, like he got minimum wage at the time, sound a [bleep] job1 hour, he’s moving boxes. I mean, what is a Book Depository? I still don’t know, what are you doing, and, and why is it six story tall, Jesus Christ. They go, deposit books, why is it so tall, why isn’t it a library, why is it in a library?

It is, it’s like a, it’s like a library, but not. Yeah, okay, so uh, it’s probably like a book Warehouse, I guess. I know, where they go before they, they Deposit, they deposit them there before they, they send in the library, like we don’t have it on the supply chain line. We’re going to do a whole episode, just, yeah, around the country. So A, the commission has found no evidence that anyone assisted Oswald in planning or carrying out the assassination. In this connection it is Thoroughly investigated among other factors the circumstances surrounding the planning of the motorcade route from Dallas, the hiring of Oswald in October, the method by which the rifle was brought into the building, the placing of the curtains of books at the window, oswal’s esape from the building, and the testimony of eyewitnesses to the shooting.

B, the commission has found no evidence that Oswald was involved in any with any person or group in a conspiracy to assassinate the president, although it has thoroughly investigated, in addition to other possible leads, all facets of oswal’s associations, finances, and personal habits, particularly During the period following his return from the Soviet Union. A little teaser for next episode, didn’t love it, like America, we’ve been blaming Shan on Russia for [bleep] 60 years, it’s Russia address me. So C, the commission has found no evidence to show that Oswald was employed, persuaded, or encour, encouraged by any foreign government to assassinate Kennedy, or that he was an agent of any foreign government, although the commission has reviewed the circumstances surrounding oswal’s defection to the Soviet Union, his life there from October 59 to June 62, so far as it can be reconstructed, his known contacts with the fair play of Cuba community, and his visits to the Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico City during his trip to Mexico from September to October in ‘ 63.

Mhm, so all this information is what we’re going to learn in the next episode, which is the life of him, and like what he did, he’s got some weird [bleep], like he went, I’m not going to deny the sovet, I’m really not going to deny the fact that he’s done some weird [bleep]. He’s do weird [bleep], 100%, agree with you that he’s done some weird [bleep]. Okay, so D, the commission has explored all attempts of Oswald to identify himself with various political groups, including Communist Party, Fair Play Cuba, Socialist Workers, whatever, has been unable to find any evidence that the contacts with which he initiated were related to oswal’s subsequent assassination of the President.

E, all of the evidence before the commission established that there is nothing to support the speculation that Oswald was an agent, employee, or F, or informant of the FBI, CIA, or any other governmental agency. So pretty much this is like the whole blanket statement, yes, oswal was alone, he had no data, no information, like he was, it was him, nobody helped him. It has thoroughly investigated oswal’s relationships prior to the assassination with all of the agencies of the US government, all contacts with Oswald by any of these agencies were made in regular exercise of each different responsibility. Yeah, and it was all legal, 100%, we didn’t do anything wrong.

F, no direct or indirect relationship between Lee Harvey and Jack Ruby has been discovered by the commission, nor has it been able to find any credible evidence that either of them knew the other, although a thorough investigation was made of the many rumors and speculations of that relationship. That’s, so you got to love a commission of like five dudes, or like have like pure sovereignty over a thing, right? They’re like, just me, like I, I hate that, like. I, G, the commission has found no evidence that Jack Ruby acted with any other person in the killing of Lee Harvey. H, after careful investigation, the commission has found no credible evidence either that Ruby and tippet, who was killed by Oswald, knew each other, or that Oswald and tippet knew each other.

So Ruby didn’t know anybody, and so they’re saying Ruby didn’t know tippet, right, and Oswell didn’t know tippet, okay. Yeah, so tiet, yeah, like tipet was just like trying to cover all the B, every who knew who, who knew who, no one in the commission knew Oswald at all, have no connection. So because of the difficulty of proving negatives to a certainty, the possibility of others being involved with either Oswald or Ruby cannot be established categorically. Yeah, like they’re just saying, like we can’t, there’s no, there’s no such thing as 100% certainty, because they don’t know the data. Yeah, but if there is any such evidence, it has been beyond the reach of all the investigative agencies and resources of the United States, and it has not come to the attention of this Commission.

In its entire investigation, the commission has found no evidence of conspiracy, subversion, or disloyalty to the US government by any federal, state, or local official. On the basis of the evidence before the commission, it concludes Oswald acted alone. Therefore, to determine the motives for the assassination of President Kennedy, one must look to the Assassin himself. Clues to Oswald’s motives can be found in his family history, his education, or lack of it, his acts, his writings, and the Recollections of those who had close contacts with him throughout his life. The commission has presented with this report all of the background information bearing on motivation which it could discover.

Thus, Others May study lee Oswell life and arrive at their own conclusions as to his possible motives. And that’s our next episode, which is we will look into Lee Harvey oswal’s life. That’s going to be a good one, it’s, it’s going to be good. So, you know, obviously there’s a lot more I’d love to say right now, but I can’t, I got to wait till that point where we talk about it. But uh, definitely make sure you guys tune in next time, you know, we’re going to, we’re going to get into more in depth. We want to hear your comments, we want to know, know what you think, we went, know your thoughts.

We told you this was going to be a big, this is going to be a big one, this is the, this is the mother of all conspires, like we got to, this is like the, this is what began, this is what started conspiracy theories, you know. And just like the last thing on it is, is I really, I wanted to dive in and kind of make a decision for myself, cuz before it was always, I don’t really have a decision of who did what and what this, that, all, you didn’t have all the data. Yeah, and so what I’m trying to do is I try to get as much information as I could, and then come to my own conclusion.

So of course, so from a podcast perspective, we’re going through this with you. Yeah, so it was, okay, let’s get the Warren Commission done, what do they think happened? M, we’re going to now, next two episodes, I think, are learning about Lee Harvey elal, his life, and then we’ll go into the conspiracies. Yeah, and then we’ll, we’ll, I like I said, I really want, I really want to know what you guys think, so cuz I think we’re over here, we’re all over the board. Yeah, be nice to us though, please, yeah, or be mean, that’s fine too, just, just be with us. All right guys, that’s all we got tonight, and if you guys want to get a hold of us, make sure to go to the conspiracy podcast.com, and then you’ll find the links to all social medias, or uh, emails, get in touch with us, make sure to leave a review, five star, whatever it is, it all helps, whatever it is, whatever, even if you hate us, you got to love, hey, come on.