The Assassination of RFK Part Two: The Ambassador Hotel – Episode #61

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// THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE — WE JUST CAN’T AGREE ON IT
CASE OPEN

CASE FILE No. 61  //  THE ASSASSINATION OF RFK

The Assassination of RFK Part Two: The Ambassador Hotel

filed: feb 20, 2024  //  runtime: 68:32  //  hosts: jorge, sean, eric
// THE SHORT VERSION

This episode of The Conspiracy Podcast continues the hosts’ two-part look at the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, covering the night of June 4-5, 1968, when Kennedy was shot in the kitchen pantry of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles shortly after winning the California primary. The hosts walk through the timeline: Kennedy’s victory speech, the last-minute route change through the pantry, the shooting itself, the other five people wounded, and Kennedy’s death the following day at age 42.

Sirhan Sirhan, then 24 years old, was subdued at the scene and later convicted of the murder in 1969; he remains in prison and has been repeatedly denied parole. The hosts also lay out background on Sirhan, including his family’s history and his stated opposition to Kennedy’s support for Israel.

Much of the episode centers on inconsistencies in the eyewitness and forensic record, including disputed shot counts, disputed bullet holes, and reports that a security guard drew his own weapon that night. The hosts frame these as open questions and unproven theories rather than established fact, and set up a woman in a polka dot dress and a possible second gunman as topics for the next episode.

“The least credible thing is an eyewitness account, because you never know. Trauma can make you experience things that may or may not be what’s actually happening.”

— the guys, on the record
// THE EVIDENCE
  • Robert F. Kennedy was shot in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles just after midnight on June 5, 1968, following his win in the California primary, and died on June 6, 1968, at age 42.
  • Sirhan Sirhan, a 24-year-old described by witnesses as curly-haired and wearing a blue sweatshirt, was tackled and disarmed after firing an Iver Johnson .22 caliber revolver that held eight rounds.
  • Five other people were wounded that night, including union representative Paul Schrade, who was shot in the head and survived; busboy Juan Romero, who had just shaken Kennedy’s hand, cradled his head afterward.
  • Coroner Dr. Thomas Noguchi’s autopsy found the fatal shot was fired from as close as one to one and a half inches behind Kennedy’s right ear, and some witness accounts of the shooting’s sequence conflicted with his findings.
  • Some witnesses told police they saw an RFK security guard draw his own weapon that night, and those reports, along with earwitness shot counts ranging roughly from 8 to 15 against an 8-round gun, form the basis of an unproven second gunman theory the hosts weigh rather than confirm.
  • Sirhan was convicted in 1969, has been denied parole at least 17 times including a January 2022 denial by California Governor Gavin Newsom, and remains in prison; the hosts note that Sirhan has said he does not remember the shooting despite a diary entry stating his intent to kill Kennedy.
// CASE QUESTIONS
Where was Robert F. Kennedy assassinated?
Robert F. Kennedy was shot in the kitchen pantry of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California, shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968. He had just finished his victory speech after winning the California primary and was being led through the pantry as a shortcut to a press room.
Who shot Robert F. Kennedy?
Sirhan Sirhan, a 24-year-old man, fired an Iver Johnson .22 caliber revolver in the hotel pantry and was physically restrained by bystanders after emptying the gun’s eight rounds. He was convicted of the murder in 1969 and remains in prison, having been denied parole multiple times, including a January 2022 denial by California Governor Gavin Newsom.
Was there a second gunman in the RFK assassination?
A second gunman has never been proven and is not part of the official record; Sirhan Sirhan alone was convicted. The theory comes from unresolved questions the hosts discuss, including witness reports of a security guard drawing his own gun, wide-ranging shot counts from earwitnesses, and disputed bullet holes in the pantry that some argue exceed the eight rounds Sirhan’s gun could hold.
How many people were shot at the Ambassador Hotel that night?
Six people were shot in total. Robert F. Kennedy was hit three times, and five other people, including union representative Paul Schrade and ABC News employee William Weisel, were wounded but survived.
// THE FULL TRANSCRIPT
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Conspiracy Podcast. Yes, we’re here again. What up, surprise surprise. Yeah, on the social media world, everybody knows that, yeah, that’s true. Uh, we are on episode two of RFK. Yes. R, the assassination of, you say R, Ru? I, a Ru. Uh, in the last episode we went over, kind of, uh, the life of Robert Kennedy and and his campaign, and where he was headed, where he was taking us. Um, some of the audio clips of his speeches. Yes, that sort of thing. So I do want to say something real quick, CU it’s been, it’s been bugging meh. And so we had a, we had a person right in, which we love, thank you so much, like you know, regardless if it’s, you know, talking [bleep] like this guy was or not, but like, look, we’ll take all the feedack.

When we focus on a topic, you know, there’s a, there’s a reason we’re on a topic, because we’re only going to discuss that topic. So I’m sorry, sorry. Well, what, they, they, we’re not biased, it’s just, so pretty much it was on two epod, based on RFK 1, and it was also based off the Hunter Biden laptop. And the person just wanted to then give, they wanted to then just give comparisons to how Trump is also the exact same as these situations, which is, which may be true, but we’re only, we’re talking about the topic. So, so, please. Yeah, she was, she was concerned that we were on nepotism, that we weren’t pointing out all nepotism on the planet.

Well, I mean, yes, and there’s a lot, specifically Trump. Okay, so every politician who’s ever lived, I mean, let’s be real, like come on, most of them, and except for George Washington, like no netism made it. Numer. I know, like the Original Gangster, yeah. So I just wanted to say, I get it, you have your feelings, but when we’re talking about a topic, we’re just going to talk about the people involved in the topic, that’s it, only. Yeah, that’s right, doesn’t mean that we’re saying that they’re the only ones, or they’re bad, you know, it’s just, we’re just going to talk about the topic, so deal with it.

Yeah, that’s all. I, well, it’s also hard to not, I mean, it, it’s, we don’t want to go off on tangents that are not related. Exactly what I mean, we do go out off on tangents, we, we do, but I mean, you know, you can connect everything to, you know, oh, the pyramids weren’t built by the, you know what I mean, here we go, here we, here we, here we. Er, with his employee theory. [bleep] this. [bleep] again. So, here we go, part two of Robert F. Kennedy and the assassination. So yes, uh, at this point Bobby Kennedy was no stranger to death. He had lost two brothers, and his dad had suffered a stroke in ’61, something that he just never recovered from.

He, he was in a wheelchair, he was kind of an inil. Yeah, he, he could barely speak, basically, at this point, but that [bleep] survived. I me, like, I guess, I guess the point of that though is to go, he, death was kind of around him, and he was used to, I, that sounds bad, but he was used to death. But you have so much death in your family, or tragedy, cuz you also have, you have his brother in World War II, you have his brother being assassinated, you have his dad having a stroke, you have his sister being committed, yeah, getting lobotomized, like, [bleep], you have, you have a lot of that.

So I think you almost become numb, maybe. Yeah, maybe that’s a better word, I don’t know, if you get used to it’s not us. I think you just become numb. And then you’re also, you’re also in this elite [bleep], where it’s like, you kind of have to be numb already just to survive in the family. Dad’s a [bleep], and he’s like, I hate you, you suck, your brothers are so much better, why did I stuck with your stupid ass, you know, it’s like, you got to, I think you got to just be, you just got to turn it off, turn off, like, turn off the emotions, right?

Yeah. So he was kind of used to it, and so there were certain things that happened in his campaign. There was a parade that he was participating in, one of his c campaign members heard a pop, and he attempted to dodge the bullet. And it wasn’t necessarily a bullet, but it, it was a pop, it was literally Eric in the back, going, and he turned and saw Kennedy, and Kennedy was unfaced, because, I, I don’t know, this is just, um, you know, and the whole point of that is just, whether, person who freaked out was on meth. So I guess, I guess the whole idea is, is that he went through a lot, know, he went through a lot of, of, or maybe that was just who he was, maybe it was just ice in his veins, [bleep], like, that’s maybe true, like, ruthless, he was like John wake.

Yeah, the, the. So on June 4th, 1968, the morning of the primary, Kennedy and his campaign team made their way to the headquarters at The Ambassador Hotel, located in Los Angeles. It was a winner takes all primary, meaning that all 174 California delegates would pledge for their winning candidate, with McCarthy taking the win in Oregon. Kennedy had to get the win in order to get the nomination in Chicago. Chicago is the Democratic primary, the National Committee, you know what I mean. Yeah, as we’ve talked about before, Kennedy won with 46% of the vote, and it was confirmed that he won by midnight, which is when he left his team’s fifth floor.

This is when it became a celebratory thing, botles, we won California, that was, that was basically that night, right? So his, his team left the fifth floor Suite along with Ethel, which is his wife, for the victory speech in the Embassy Ballroom. 1800 people awaited. We heard the speech in last week’s episode, you guys, you know, and the end of it is basically like, good job, and we’re on to Chicago, let’s win there, that was his final part, right. While there was no guarantee that the campaign would end in a win, with McCarley likely to go all out in Chicago, there was also the chant of, we want Bobby, we want Bobby, we want Bobby, you know.

Yeah, um, and so, and I just want to clarify the last episode that we brought up, where I said many times he would have been president, he was going to be president, la la, a very high probability, it, but it wasn’t. I, I do want to clarify, it wasn’t confirmed. Well, no, and he was actually technically still losing, but his momentum was such that I, I believe that he was going to win. I believe so too. Yeah, so I think I just want to say that, like, that he wasn’t, we’re going to get like canceled forck. I just wanted to say. Yeah, I just wanted to say that.

So listen, Eric, we’ll never forgive you. Yeah, this is actually your last podcast, you’re cancelled. Yeah, you’re actually done, email is your box, leave your notes in your computer. So after he got off the podium, right, and you remember this, this photo right here, and the video that we did in the audio, and that’s when he said, let’s go on to Chicago. M. So he steps off the podium, and this is on film, you can actually see it on YouTube. Bobby was originally supposed to go through a corridor that led to a press room, but his campaign Aid named Fred Dutton changed their path because, because of the chaos in the crowd.

Oh, they went through the kitchen, right, and he says, no, it’s been changed, we’re going this way. Oh, this guy’s in the, take this, his camp, like, trust me. Instead, we know he was redirected through a left-hand doorway for a shortcut to that press room, and it was through the kitchen pantry, that’s right. Yeah, the, I knew that. Yeah, Carl uker, which was the Mater D of the the hotel, LED Bobby through the crowd by his wrist, while his security Entourage caught up behind him. Keep in mind that protection for people in this time period were not, it’s not, not like they weren’t, like, literally you put your [bleep] hands on them, again, you’re dead.

Like, to give you an idea, this is, this is his security team, okay. It consisted basically of three people, uh, a former FBI agent named William Barry, and two former pro athletes, nice, named raford Johnson and Rosie Greer. Yeah, we’ve never heard of them. So this is, that’s his security team, he’s like, this guy’s big, you’re on. Yeah, this other, like, come here, no formal training. Now, what’s, what’s interesting is, a point of a historical, I guess, tidbit, uh, after this is when they started to give Secret Service protection to candidates. Oh yeah, that’s right. So it’s just, anyways, there you go. Yeah, oh, and then, there wasn’t there, sorry, wasn’t there this whole thing about, uh, I remember, I forget, I saw, but it was RFK Jr.

was, was then saying that he had requested Secret Service detail, and they, they refused him. That’s right. And he’s like bitching, he’s like, okay, well, you gave it to literally every other presidential candidate for the last 20 years, that’s [bleep], like, every single one got it. Yeah, Obama got it. I don’t really know the the reason for it, I don’t know, I don’t really know the reason, reason they denied him. Yeah, yeah, I don’t know, yeah, it doesn’t make sense, yeah. Straat for cash, yeah, like, no, clearly not. And I mean, it’s not like he’s a, you know, a candidate, it’s like, me running for president, I need Secret Service.

Exactly, like, he, he’s high, high profile, at least give him one guy, like, a dude, like, like, aom reti, like some X NFL player, or give him like some, like, Bruce Willis drunk character who used to be legit. Yeah, he, like, and then he, you know, he’s, yeah’s falling from Grace, he’s like, [bleep], I was there when JFK got shot, and I let my guard down, and then, you know what I mean, like, dip, like a whole mouth of dip. He’s got the little white on his, on his lips, just hung over all the time. [bleep] Yeah, anyway, just give RFK one guy, okay. There you go.

They didn’t, they still haven’t. Yep. So Bobby’s ground crew led him through the pantry area by the wrist and elbow, occasionally letting Bobby shake hands with the kitchen workers and other supporters, and you can see this video, and he’s, it’s wild, he’s like touching fingers, grabbing this way, going that way, everybody wants to physically touch this man. Yeah, like it’s strange, weird, it’s a SB of, of, it’s like Michael Jackson walking down and everybody’s just like, I just want to touch you. I mean, I can’t think of a single person that just wants the physically attachment. I’m like, my wife, no. So one of these kitchen workers was 18-year-old bus boy named Juan Romero, and he vividly recalls his experiences from that night, uh, he was beaming, talking about meeting Bobby the day before when bringing him room service, and again that night in the kitchen pantry.

It was moments after he shook hands with RFK in the kitchen that Bobby Kennedy would be shot. And in some of these photos, it’s actually one of the most famous photos right here, these are the most famous photos of, of literally Bobby being shot, and Romero is the guy next to him. I mean, wow, that, like, these look straight up staged, like he’s just like laying on the ground, and there was two people in the, like, barely in the frame. Okay, step back, step back, like, the way he’s laying definitely looks fake. I mean, are you sure this, like, wax, he looks almost like a wax, is that crazy?

I don’t, how do they get these photos? Sure this is not AI? Who was there with the Polaroid? Like, all, you sure it’s not AI? Like, [bleep], and who the, who the, is this one of the kitchen workers, like, up? Yeah, posing. That’s Romero, that’s the guy that we’re talking about. Yeah. Hey [bleep] it. Yellow, they got a selfie with him, like, dying. Bobby had his body turned to his left, with his right side exposed while shaking hands. Okay, okay. Yeah. As a 24-year-old man stepped off a nearby dish rack, no closer than 1 and 1/2 ft away, began firing an Ivor Johnson 22 long rifle caliber revolver.

Like, long rifle, how does that, I, Johnson 22 caliber long rifle revolver, that’s right. Uh, this, in the pantry, at 12:13 a.m. on June 5th, the shooter was curly-haired and in blue jeans and a blue sweatshirt. After two shots were fired, workers, guests, and supporters jumped on the shooter and were able to pin the young man down on a steam table. Despite being held down and pointed away from RFK, he continually, wildly, rapidly firing the revolver until the eight shots was gone. Damn, it’s an eight shot revolver, what the [bleep] kind of revolver is this? [bleep] saying, dude, like, what are these dudes, okay. It, I just feel like, man, like, what the, the level of disrespect, you can’t even kill these guys with, like, legit weapons, it’s all these like obscure, like, [bleep].

I have, I have, rackon long rifle, eight shot, mcgilla Cy, like, what the [bleep] is this? [bleep], we used ulyses s gra ankle gun, it’s like, [bleep], shoots wood bullets. Wait, what’s it called, I need to look this up. It’s an Ivor Johnson 22 long rifle caliber revolver. 20 22 long rifle caliber revolver, sorry. Oh, wow, this is like, oh yeah, a handun. I mean, yeah, this is like clood. Yeah, just a little, just, I mean, it’s not little, but it’s, it’s 22. I mean, it’s, yeah, it’s small. Yeah, it does have eight. Yeah, eight, well, eight, eight rounds. Nice. Okay, so just imagine, a 100 people in a kitchen, you’re shoulder toosh shoulder, oh yeah, a dude comes out, a kid, really, comes out, starts firing, pulls off a couple shots, people jump him, grab him, he will not let go, he’s got the grip of God, like, PCP grip, just, and he’s just popping off shots.

I mean, eight, my thing is, it’s, I’m already like, I’m already a little sketched out, I’m like, how would this 24-year-old kid know that they changed the [bleep]? I know, they like took him on, on a, oh, we’re going to take a shortcut, good question, apparently that was at the end, that was last minute, liter, last minute change, and he’s some, like, 24-year-old kid working, they working in a kitchen. So then the question is, was it planned to go that way, or was honestly just this pure chance? No, definitely, did they have several shooters, like, depending on which way he went? I mean, it’s 100% of pure chance, he’s like, he’s going to be sitting there, he’s like, maybe he’ll come to the kitchen, maybe I’ll get lucky tonight.

Yeah, but here’s what’s wild, and most people don’t know this, but five other people were wounded. Oh, from popped off eight shot, every, like I said, in a room full of shoulder to shoulder, [bleep], and five other people were, were shot, including two people in the head. Holy [bleep], they were, they were just, they didn’t die, here’s the great thing, nobody else died. Whoa, wow, can you imagine getting shot in the head and surviving? What the [bleep]. Now, to give you an idea, one of the shots went through a Ricochet shoulder pad and hit somebody in the head. Yeah, I mean, RFK didn’t get hit, but it went through his jacket, and then it got, the guy got hit in the forhead.

Oh, okay. And he was unconscious, but it didn’t go, like, his, his shoulder pad, remember those, like, back in the day? Oh, dude, that’s like, that thing was like, I mean, that was like Kevlar, [bleep], like, you know, like six lbs in shoulder pad. Activity like, do I remember, my mom, you said, like, the like little power suit with the [bleep], the like thick, like, shoulder pad inserts, I, like, it’s like ridiculous, you should bring those back. I mean, they might be, Mak, I would rock that. I can see Eric, at his next, his next, his his next business, [bleep], like, they like, they’re like, Eric, your shoulder’s so broad’s just be constantly going like this, shug and shoulders.

Yeah, uh, okay, so Kennedy was shot four times, but it only, three of the bullets went into his body, so one of them just went through his coat. Wait, and how many, and how many people got hurt? Five other people were shot, so, oh, okay, this is impressive. So six people total were, were hurt, including RFK. RFK got shot four times. Yeah, and then five other, well, he got three bullets, three bullets in his body, but he, one of them went through his shoulder pad and hit the other guy in the head. That’s right. Okay, so you’re telling me that every single bullet hit somebody?

Yeah, pretty, how, what are the odds of every bullet? ODS huge. 100 people in a kitchen, but they got, it got tackled, and it was just shooting random shots. Remember the grip of God? Yeah, but he wasn’t aiming, it wasn’t like he was, like, taking. I guess literally he can point anywhere and you’ll shoot someone. Not up. Well, we never said up, well, I’m just saying, I, I thought that was interesting, that that literally every bullet hit somebody. Yeah. Kennedy collapsed alongside, was none other than Romero, the bus boy who had shook hands with him right as it was happening. Yeah, after he fell, he asked, is everybody okay, remember, we, we brought that up.

Yeah, stand up, hello, Mr. George, Mr. George, you know, everything is going to be okay. They’re like, no, his, everyone, everything is okay, trust me, trust me, Mrk, everything, Mr. RFK, Mr. RFK, Mr., Mr., Mr. R, trust me, I I deliver room service to. Later, trust me, I don’t even know, if I just keep, uh, we just try to make it a little lighter, I know, no, okay. So after he fell, he said, is everybody okay? Romero just said, yes. Then, then Bobby said, then Bobby said, everything will be okay. He then began to fall in and out of consciousness while Romero cradled his head, and those are the photos where he’s holding his head, oh, he’s like, selfie, like.

So the other victims that night, one was Paul shra, which was a union worker, uh, irn stroll was a campaign volunteer. I, sorry, just real quick jump in, I wonder what union he worked for, the teamsters, just saying, Jimmy haa. Okay, Elizabeth Evans was a democratic activist, Ira Goldstein was the Continental news service radio operator, and William weasel, uh, wisel, I think I said that wrong, Weasley, was an ABC News associate. Oh, so these were, these were like, these were the people who got shot, so none of the, there, there was like two kitchen workers, and the rest, people were like with the crew. So sh was the first to go down, when he was shot in the head, thankfully the bullet bounced off his skull, and left him with a deep laceration, but not a critical one.

That’s great. Wow, [bleep] hard head. The campaign volunteer, who was 19, the campaign volunteer who was 19 at the time, was hit in the leg. Evans was shot in the forehead. Goldstein in the hip, and wisel in the abdomen. This guy, the forehead guys, two people got hit in the forehead. Jes. Well, see, well, the thing is, like, just, you know, the thickest part of your skull is your forehead. Oh, perfect. Yeah, that’s why, still, that’s why if you [bleep] have a bullet, if people like punch you in the, for, they break their hands, head butt people with your forehead, it’s super th. Try it on.

You let’s do it. And if I get robbed, I’m like, put it right there, don’t put it anywhere, right there, you’re like, is that a 22, like, [bleep], kill me. One and A2 fet, shoot me, shoot me through my shoulder. Uh, Romero the bus boy experienced powder burns on his face. Despite their injuries, all the other victims would recover. How the [bleep], what powder bur, the gun was like next to his face, so. Remember that? And he was still holding his, he’s like, down, just take the picture, please, please. So you can also go back and watch some of these videos, because a lot of the video is a is video footage of everybody else in the hotel.

So it was kind of like, chaos is starting to happen, like, what’s happening. Oh, yeah, the hotel was crawling, know, dipping, I’m out, I’m like [bleep]. They were uncertain of what happened, angry, or in full panic mode, cuz they started to hear the news, and people were just shouting, Bobby shot, Bobby shot, and then everybody just started scuttling around. But luckily enough there was a guest there that was a doctor, one particular was a trauma surgeon named Dr. Ross Miller, he stepped up to help out, out, when somebody pleaded for a doctor, is there a doctor in the house. So one of these guys, no, no, not even kidding, you can, there is a video where it’s on the podium that he had just stepped off of, somebody from the campaign walks up and says, is there a doctor in the house, and this guy’s like, I’m a f, exactly what you said, it’s like, [bleep], exactly what you said.

Yeah, in the midst of the chaos, more chaos was happening, but with the shooter, he attempted to retrieve the gun again, but he was unable to use it or to reload it. Witnesses say that he was acting strange ly, both before and after the shooting. He had been seen in various places throughout the hotel leading up to the event, he was at the bar, he was outside the ballroom, and he was in the kitchen, even before, asking somebody whether or not Kennedy was coming back through this way. H. And was he dressed, was he, was he dressed like a cook? No, he was likeing, like, regular clothes, and, like, yeah, hang out in the kitchen, bro, no problem, [bleep], they’re not going to get the [bleep] out of.

So what was seemingly a clearcut case, with a blazing gun and tons of evidence, nobody wanted it to be a Lee Harvey Oswal incident. There’s even a video of somebody saying, we don’t want another Lee Harvey incident here. So they basically detained him, right, and the operators at the hotel called the police. Two LAPD officers on patrol in the area first answered the call at 12:20 a.m., and it was Ambassador shooting, 3400 Wilshire. During the same time, RFK’s motorcade had been waiting for him outside of the hotel, they said that they were simply waved by, and they left the hotel, they weren’t stopped, they weren’t questioned, they just left, [bleep] it.

This is when the shooter was placed into custody and taken in for questioning. He indicated that he wished to remain silent, when they gave him his rights he said, Mirand, I want to be right. Yeah, or I want to be quiet. Well, quick note, that if they, if you never, if, if you ever get arrested and they don’t read your Miranda Rights, the arrest is null one void, really? Do you know, and how do you prove that? Well, every once, ween, in body camps, back, back then, back then, down, [bleep] punch you in the face, he adhered to that, say you resisted. He adhered to that so much that he didn’t say who he was, he didn’t say his name, he didn’t say what he was doing there, he didn’t say, you know, somebody said, hey, do you know that k Robert Kennedy has been shot, and he says, do you think I’m crazy, so you can use that evidence against me.

Well, yeah, I mean, the fifth, he knew, the the Fifth Amendment is actually, like, literally, if you like read the n to not implicate yourself, the real purpose of it is for, like, you’re testifying, mhm, against, in something, you’re not not able to implicate yourself in an additional crime, but then people used to, like, I’m not going to implicate myself in anything. Yeah, 1, 2, 3, 4, F. So when they searched him, they found a car key, two live 22 caliber bullets, and one expended bullet, oh, they, like, went to the uh $410 in cash, which is like a shitload, yeah, that sounds of money, hella, I don’t have that right now, I really.

No, two newspaper clippings, and the first was an article clipping about RFK supporting Israel, and the second being an ad to see that RFK was at the hotel. Ad to like, like, like a green bean castle, and this was on his person, you said, right, in his car. Oh, in his car, yeah, now that means nothing now, this RFK will be in the st, no, no, no, now this, this, uh, little bit MLK kind of thing going on here, where it’s like, uh, yeah, you know what I mean, like, okay, my escape route, I’m going to put it in the glove compartment, I’m going to put a bullet there.

No, it’s like L, expended bullet, it’s literally like on the seat, like, right there, it’s like he’s like literally his fingerprints, the gun somehow made it back to the car. A used condom. Yeah, remember, yeah, remember, James R, like, jerked off in the bag, and then, like, yeah, here’s my DNA, I’m gna cut my fingernails, F it, yeah, no big deal. His clothes that he wore during the shooting, with the gunpowder residue on it, he didn’t have a wallet, he didn’t have ID. Interviewer Sergeant Jordan, who said that although he would not give up his identity, he never appeared irrational. The cops said he didn’t smell of alcohol, he didn’t seem intoxicated.

One of the cops said, after talking to him for a while, for many hours, he was one of the most alert and intelligent persons in sharp. H, okay, what, whatever, dude, he’s like, what’s up. Based on reports, it was determined Bobby was shot at 1210, by 12:30 two he was on a stretcher being lifted into an ambulance to the general Central Receiving Hospital. Damn, man, that’s like pretty fast. Super fast. It’s just so crazy that this [bleep] could happen, cuz, like, nowadays it’s so different. That was, like, was the Golden Age of assassinations, like, in the, man, like, no one gave a [bleep]. [bleep] walk into like a place like there’s no, nobody’s checking IDs.

Well, it’s also so different nowadays, because of this, you know. That’s a good point, true. You, yeah, this never like, these things never happen. Yeah, they would still be like, [bleep], it’s like, uh, you know, there’s no no TSA before 9/11. Oh, my God, worst, not like, my balls came in with this. Oh, smart, smart, listen. Hor, I know, there’s no more presidents in like open motorcade, going, hey, I know, like, [bleep], let’s go down to Texas Street, no, deal. Now they’re in like cars now, they have like bulletproof glass, can a stand 50 cal, like, [bleep], three cars that look the same, and you don’t even know where they’re at.

I know, it’s like oper, like, what, what do they call, it’s like one of those shell games, like, they just moved around, you know, where they go? I think it’s called like operational speed or some [bleep] like that, so they’re, they’re going like 90, and they’re like, if a car is, if a cars going the same speed they’re at, that’s the one. After you, most assassins have bolt actions from 1942, yeah, made by like weird, like, Italian companies that, like, went out of business, the most unreliable weapons known to man. So he was taken to the nearby emergency room. Bobby still had a strong heartbeat despite being shot in the head, uh, his injuries didn’t look to be that severe in the field, because they were internal, but by the time they got to the hospital, they realized how much damage it was.

The third bullet damaged RFK’s brain stem, making it hard to fix, to ensure Bobby’s ability to perform major bodily functions, coordinate body movements, and be able to think properly. Unfortunately, Bobby would need a heart massage, adrenaline, and a heart lung machine. Oh, a heart massage where they cut your, they’re like in your, they’re like holding your heart, and they’re like, like, pumping it, pumping it for you. Doctors realized that surgery would be needed, and knew their hospital would not have the equipment for the path ahead, so RFK was then transferred to LA’s Good Samaritan Hospital. [bleep] The hospital though did great work, and to today’s standards doctors did everything they could within their power.

Bobby was maintaining a strong heartbeat, after a long neurosurgery, the doctors were able to retrieve all but one bullet fragment, but there was just too much damage. Oh, for sure. I’m so, bullet splinters out in your brain, it’s like, d, like, yeah, it’s only so much you can do. His skull had been shattered by the bullet behind his right ear. So Robert F. Kennedy was pronounced dead on June 6, 1968. He was 42 years old, he left behind his wife and 11 children. 11 children, I was going to say 11, you have 11 children by the time you’re 42, not crazy, damn, that’s busy, dude, that’s, I mean, Ethel, I, I mean, my God, like, they, they just don’t make him like they used to do it was also more common back then, like, a lot of to have 11 children.

Maybe not 11, maybe not 11, but keep in mind they were, they also got married in the early 50s. Yeah, it’s also, keep in mind, they were generationally wealthy. True, true, [bleep], it’s so goddamn expensive nowaday. 11 kids that have to be making like $75 million a year, like, imagine the age gap, it has to just have been one after the other, one, one, 15 years give or take, you get, you get one year, you get a year and six months, just imagine trying to remember all their names. Oh, my God, Stevie, Stacy, Kel, Kelsey, Kevin, Brian, Bobby, Junobie, yeah, Bobby, Bob, [bleep]. So after this happened, we’ll post some of the photos, I mean, some of them are pretty gnarly, so we’ll probably only do it in the Patreon, you know, they’re, I don’t think we can get away with that in social media, they’re pretty grome, instantly canel, or as Tik Tok say, we’ll be like inciting violence by posting a picture of a gun, 60 years Ago.

If you guys don’t know, we do have a Patreon, yeah, if, if you’re just listening for the first time, yeah, and we, yeah, sometimes what we do is we’ll put episode images and notes, yeah, extra content, so some of this stuff is a little bit over, you know, it’s gruesome, it’s gruesome, somebody dying, you know, it’s like, you know, maybe you’re, you don’t want to know that. Yeah, it’s tot fine, but, uh, for, for, for our sake, which is we’re trying to understand what happened, sometimes it is important. No, yeah, it’s context. Okay, this is Romero holding up RFK’s head on the floor of the kitchen, and was it actually Romero, or.

So with tons of guests in the hotel that night, there was even more feedback, interviews, and there was just so many witness accounts. The California state archives contain 180 witness reports. Wow, 180. Meanwhile, no one stopped this man from coming into the kitchen, not a single [bleep] was like, why are you here. All the witnesses plac siron at least 1 and A2 ft in front of RFK and, la, how the [bleep] do you get that close? An an LA photographer witnessed a scene described only hearing two shots, watching the capture of the gunman, and taking photos of RFK on the ground. Other stories corroborate this, but other witnesses have different ideas on what happened in the Ambassador Hotel that night.

So here we have, go, coming up, the next five minutes of this is just about how there’s 180 witnesses, and almost every single one of them says something different. Oh my God, walking to telephone. Yeah, like, you make something out, or it’s like, heard, heard a crackle, and then this, and then somebody grabbed my butt, my butt, that’s right, I was like, oo, like. No one witness says they heard five shots, other witnesses claim they heard 10 to 12 shots. Some witnesses place a woman in a polka dot dress next to the shooter, and we’ll get to that next episode. The Matrix, I know, I know, conspiracy theorists are gna say, why aren’t you going to talk about this, we’re going to talk about the polka dot dress girl in the next episode, yeah, but all these, these are just eyewitnesses, and going, oh, this happened, that happened, and, you know, well, I mean, that’s why, that’s why it’s unfortunate, but, like, the the least credible thing is an eyewitness thing, because, yeah, you never know, like, you know, trauma can make you experience certain things that may or may not be, like, what’s actually happening.

And also, yeah, either that, or, or they just want to get their name into the story, get, and there’s there’s that too, but also, adrenaline, chaos, imagine that, [bleep], 100 plus people in a room, shots start going on off, I’d definitely be like, just running, hiding, what, I know, what I wouldn’t know what dude, way over there, is doing, and, yeah, like, I think, I think it only, if only if it’s happening directly to you do you get that, cuz, like, I’ve had, weirdly enough, I’ve, I’ve had a gun point in my face like five times. Really, not fun. Five times, Jesus. It’s not, not for any, of, you know, I just happen to be in the wrong place with the [bleep] right time, a lot of time.

Yeah, but five times, you, you’re in the wrong place all the time. Why do you think, what do you think I moved that’s think I left Ohio, [bleep] out of here, his previous life. You’re in the wrong place at the wrong time all the time. Like when it happened to me, like, it was a weird, like, you people always think we being robbed. No, one time I was robbed. Yeah, so the first time I was, I was D, I was 16, yeah, and I’ll give you a quick story real quick, story guys, quick, quick tangent, so this is back in the aim days, so it’s, remember, a im A1 messenger, oh yeah, so you know, it’s like, hey, you got communicated, you, you were being cyber bullied.

No, no, so I had, I had lent this guy, he lived down the street, I lent him, uh, 20 bucks, you know, I had my lot, he need 20 bucks, I was like, sure. And so I, I messaged him on A&M, I was like, I was like, hey, man, like, I need my 20 bucks, and he was like, oh, I got some great drugs, I was like, whatever, I was like, I have my [bleep] 20 bucks, bro, he’s like, okay, come over. So I’m literally, I’ve not, I’m not wearing any shoes, he, like, lived, like, down the street, so I run over there, and I knock on the door, and the guy opens the door, to his dad, and his dad’s got, has a gun, and he pulls me in, he has a gun in my head, he’s like, you’re getting my [bleep] son back on drugs, and I’m like, I’m like, sir, like, uh, like, sir, so I’m not going to say their, their family name, but he thought I was his son, I didn’t know, but his son used to be a crackhead, sold like his mom’s wedding ring, sold their TVs, like everything.

So I’m sitting there, barefoot, 16-year-old, and I’m staring, I got it, and I’m, dude, I was just so calm, I don’t know why, I was just like, sir, was it like a a pistol, or like a shotgun, or, it was a, it was a revolver, revolver, yeah, it was a revolver, and it was L, touching me, touching my head, in the kitchen, right in the forehead. Oh, you’re fine if it’s in the forehead, you survive. I had already done my, done the the the research on this episode, and I was like, [bleep], I have an 80% chance of survival. How the [bleep] were you calm with that [bleep] in your forehead, dude?

I, I don’t know, you just sit there, and I, and as you get there and you’re, I was just like, sir, I was like, your son owes me $20, I was like, read the messages, for $20 you have a gun to your head. I literally, I was like, read the messages, sir, and then, L, I talked to him, I end up talking him down, and he let me go, and I ran home, and I told my dad, and my dad was like, he’s dead, I’m killing this [bleep]. I was like, no. Then they called the cops, and then, yeah, but every time it’s happened, I’ve been like weirdly calm, I don’t know why.

Not the case with me, I had only one time pulled a gun on, on me. Yeah, like, wait, wait, weeping, no, no, no, come on, come on now, come on now. No, but it was some guy hated my cousin, and they started, like, getting into it, it’s all about the cousin, I got, you know, I got cousin, F, Mexicans, we got like 200 cousins, cousin, brothers, minimum cousin, like a homie, like live next door cousin, that’s right, cousin, me and Shan a cousins, 100%, you didn’t know, we’re rel. No, but, uh, yeah, so this guy, they were getting into it, and then this guy pulls out some gun, also revolver, funny enough, but I was [bleep] myself, was definitely not calm, but, but, yeah, he was just [bleep], like, you know, sc scared us off, and then we’re like, I mean, as soon as that came off, of course, we’re like, oh, yeah, yeah, I didn’t mean it like that, you know, I’m an idiot, don’t believe me, like, I have nothing to say, no, but of course, you know, we just don’t [bleep] with that, so we just went the other way.

But, um, that’s the only time I’ve, crazy, you guys sound like you guys held your [bleep] together, I would not, I would not, I would have, I crumbled, turned into like melted. Yeah, no, I’ll tell you guys the other stories off, off, uh, off this, I don’t want to suck, I don’t want to suck all the, our timeout, but yeah, I get it. Yeah, I think it’s a a thing where it’s like, you, you, I just wanted to make that person feel as comfortable as possible so they didn’t, so they didn’t just, like, you know, get freaked out and shoot me. Yeah, you know. Yeah, but here was my point about that, and, and maybe you, you kind of experienced the same, I don’t know, but well, it was maybe a little different, but my point about it was that I don’t remember [bleep] of, like, really when I was in it, I’m like just in my head, like, you don’t remember anything that’s going on in the around you in the environment.

So it doesn’t surprise me that everybody has a different story. All I remember was exactly our, just looking at, like, I remember us two, yeah, two [bleep], I remember, like, like, two people, that’s all, that literally staring at this [bleep], like. So now imagine you’re like in a crowd, and, oh, there’s people screaming, space, a tight space, and everyone’s freaking, everybody’s freaking out, yeah, yeah, that’s right. Some witnesses claim that there were more than one gun in the pantry that night, and they argue that sir Han, his gun was shooting so rapidly, that there was no way he was acting alone. Several other witnesses have since come out and stated that the reports that they gave to the police, specifically the reports that say they saw an RFK security guard pull his own gun that night, saying that the police ignored their reports.

So there were a couple witnesses that said that one of his guards, you remember guards, we went over his, his, his security, yeah, that he pulled out his gun, okay, but those reports were never submitted. Now there was, well, I guess there was reports, I was going to ask you, like, how many shots were fired, but everybody kind of says eight, is that right? Yeah, is that what we said? Well, some people say 15, some people say 10, some people say five, uh, it’s chaos, actually, it’s chaos. So Dr. Thomas naguchi, now, if you remember Dr. Thomas naguchi, he was the coroner and chief medical officer, or examiner, in LA, he did Marilyn Monroe’s autopsy.

Really? Oh my God, here we go again, another mean connection. He’s like, nothing, I don’t see anything off here. He was like, the, the who, he did all the autopsies, he’s just, it’s like he did the the famous autopsies in LA. That would such a weird job, anybody who died from 196, aess body, just imagine, anybody who died from 1960 to 1990 in LA, this dude did it. Well, if there were aist, aist only, yeah, it’s like, oh, like, oh, you’re on a sitcom, get the [bleep] out of here. By the way, if you guys don’t know, we did do an episode on, we did two, did we did two, uh, two, yes, on Maryland.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure, yeah, so we did one, a couple, on Maryland Monroe, you guys should definitely go back and listen to that. Yeah, so he conducted the autopsy shortly after his death. One wound was found in kenned s right shoulder. Oh, from the from the shoulder pad. Uh, no, oh, this a different one, this is a different one, right shoulder. It was a clean hit that entered through the back in an upward direction and exited through the front. Wait, what the [bleep], I know. Hold on. What? Yeah, this bullet was not recovered because it entered the ceiling through the plaster. Oh, maybe, maybe, maybe that was like the last shot, when they tackled the guy, but remember he was shaking hands like this, towards, like, his right, reaching over, reaching across towards his, and the guy comes up, he’s like, [bleep].

Yeah, remember, he got shot here, okay, okay, and from the autopsy in the head right behind the ear, and from the autopsy, right here, up, that makes sense, okay, I, okay, I can get behind that. So the bullet wasn’t recovered, it entered the ceiling. Another wound near the last had a similar entry pattern, which was, uh, right to the left, upward and back, and that was a deformed caliber bullet recovered in Kennedy’s six cervical vertebrae. Jesus, in the spine. F. These two shots were in the area of the right armpit, on the right side. Okay, so he came up behind, the fatal sh, like hella short, he’s like short as [bleep] is, and his name is Sir Siran.

The fatal shot entered behind his right ear, entry was right to the left, upward and slightly to the front. The bullet was so fragmented though that it was, it could not be identified, and so this, this lends to the conspiracy theory, because that one couldn’t be confirmed as the one, cuz it, there’s no evidence. Oh, so, like, so meaning he could have get shot like a hollow point, they’re like, yeah, exactly. The bullet was so fragmented that it couldn’t be identified. Reports indicated that powder residue was found, with heat and blast effects visible. So the autopsy said that it was between one and a one and a half inches away.

Oh, so it was like point blank, and then, and then maybe, like, his shots, he’s like, oh, stumbles back, and then shoots him. That’s when he gets shot, like, he’s like falling back, or someone hits him, he’s. So you’re thinking that was the first shot? I, and then somebody starts tackling him, and then he just, like, the fourth shot. So then sh, remember, was the guy who got hit in the head. Yeah, the fourth shot, it didn’t hit RFK, it hit him in the, in in the forehead face, yeah, because I think he heard the three shots, jumped, lunged his body, which is rad, yeah, good, you guy, and then he, he headbutted the bullet out of, yeah, and so then Bobby’s, it hit Bobby’s shoulder pad instead, and it hit him in the head.

And do we know if it hit, um, if it went through his shoulder pad from the back to the front? I don’t know that, yeah, we’re the files, see the fast cooporate this. Naguchi also concluded that the three shots in question were fired in rapid secession. So, P, I like that name, nuchi, nuchi, uh, but we’re not all able to be identified to that specific gun, well, because they the fragment obvious, yeah. Nuch’s report revealed that more internal damage that Kennedy suffered, and it provided evidence on the sequence of the bullets, but witness testimony claimed that shra went down before JFK. So witnesses say he was hit by the first bullet, but autopsy says that he was hit by the fourth bullet.

Well, yeah, because you would think that the the the powder burns, it’s got to be point blank, and they’re not just going to like let him walk back up and be like, [bleep], right, give like a one tap. Nuchi said that the fifth bullet was likely to the one that killed Bobby. So what they’re saying is that first three bullets hit Bobby, with two, one missed, hit shade in the forehead, fifth bullet then, that’s the one. I just don’t see how, I don’t, I don’t know, I don’t see how, I don’t see how the last shot is like where he gets off, like, the point blank head shot.

Yeah, like, you know, 100 people, w, they just mob this dude, I don’t know, well, unless somebody from the back kind of pushed him forward towards, you know, yeah, towards him, or whatever, and he got closer. Oh, he’s like, oh, he gets hit, like, act, cuz he’s just like, yeah, yeah, cuz he’s just [bleep] going wild, baby, [bleep], yeah, spray and pre. So, uh, two of the gunshots actually left residue in RFK because they were so close, and after the grand jury testimony, the DA approached nuchi and asked if he had meant to say one to three feet instead of inches, and he said, my goodness, it’s an inch, not a foot, because of the black powder.

Seems like they were like, they, like, you sure, wasn’t me, yeah, 3 m away. So I think it’s because the DA was trying to, like, most of the witnesses said that it wasn’t that close, so they couldn’t place the witness to being, the bullet is literally touching, yeah, an inch from his ear, yeah, yeah. At the crime scene itself, people were everywhere, FBI, cops, witnesses, reporters, and everyone else, it was frantic, but cops took to securing the area and began taking photos of the gunshot holes that left behind in the pantry. Siran had fired the max amount of his gun that it could hold, and he didn’t have time to reload, so eight rounds.

Eight, that’s it, eight, I know it’s al, it’s also, it’s like you have to hand load that, it’s not like an extra mag, you’re, it’s like bam, bam. So, and again, we’ll post this on our Patreon, but there’s a photo of the cops inspecting in two door frames of the pantry, and in several ceiling tiles, there’s several bullet holes that were found. Now, how many, several, this is the debatable, sepal, se. So just imagine 100 people rushing through a thing, everybody’s shot, everybody’s chaos, there’s fighting, there’s, there’s, there’s all this happening, then they take photos and they find bullet holes in the door frames, but there are a couple things that look like scuffs or bullet holes.

How can you mistake a scuff and a, well, that’s just poor, for, cu isn’t a bullet hole like a hole, not a scuff. So a lot of it goes back to just seeing the photo, I got to see this like old school tes, like, yeah, a [bleep] bullet hole, you, Jim, yeah, maybe, all right, count SM it down, we’re at 17 bullet holes, but if you were to be loose with the with the photos and say, oh, that looks like a bullet hole, there’s like 10, okay, great, and and the gun only holds eight. Got it, the gun holds eight, that’s right. They, these photos, they were taken from the scene as evidence, but little was said about them, again, even in the tri.

LAPD ruled that the holes in the walls were just from serving trays and being bumped into or bounced off by victims. How does make a bullet, it’s a bullet hole? Yeah, it’s a, is it a hole, is it a Scuf? I mean, you’re going to have to inspect the photos, this is, this is just part ofing, this is just part of the thing, you know, it’s hard to see on those photos, we’re going to have to inspect it further, but we will post the highres ones on on Patreon. The guy’s fingers, like, weirdly far part, I don’t like, like, how he, I think he’s talking about these two hes, no, I know, I’m, I don’t know, he’s doing that, Sean gets distracted, yeah, he, like, [bleep] [bleep], you know, some of these pictures, they, they show a hole that’s like way too, this is way too big, way too big for a 22, yeah, those like bullet hol, those, those look a little more, yeah, and then the are massive humongous for a 22, a hole, to you, or, again, how close are they, I don’t know, you know, I mean, are these, yeah, I don’t know, yeah, oh, same spot, same spot, it says same spot, but how is it, say, is a different angle, they just, like, took a picture, cuz that’s up and down, yeah, that’s [bleep], what the [bleep], this is FBI, was not good at this, yeah, what the [bleep], FBI, they’re really not.

Anyways, all I’m going to say is these don’t really, not all of them, that they have in this picture look like a bullet hole from a 22. Definitely, 22 is very small, P, very small, tiny, yeah, the entry, the entry is like, like, that’s what I’m going to train my daughter on, here, like, literally for real, it feels like a, be teaching his daughter about forensics, no defend, how to kill ins, that’s how big it is. That’s not even the size of a dime, that’s a third, a third of the ofas, yeah, 22 is very small, okay, that’s why, yeah, like, what he’s saying, D, you can pop off 22, it’s like the recoil on 2 is like, it’s like, it’s like a BB gun, almost that kills people, yeah, seriously, yeah.

Okay, so it got even more confusing when audio analysis decided to help by listening to an accidental recording that was done by an independent journalist at The Ambassador Hotel. So several analysts studied these recordings, and they say they can hear between 8 and 13 gunshots. Oh my god8 and 13, that’s such a wide range, between eight and a th000 gunshots. Keep in mind you have, you have, this is 1968, so the the audio recording is not, you know, it, it’s super, I know it’s not like it’s not like they have like a roadcast or to like premium quality. Also, some of the shots were so close together that you couldn’t separate if they were one or two.

So, then, okay, does that make sense, so, like, po, that’s true, no, but this guy, but you know, there’s no way, with that ancient [bleep] gun that this guy was, like, Billy, Billy the kitten, it so fast that they would be like, was that one, or was that two shot, wait, how many shots. The audio is obviously hard to decipher, and it’s muffled, there’s screams, uh, and different experts say different things, and it’s a shitty technology, yeah, exactly. So but all things point to Siran, siron, oh, yeah, to all things point to siron, siron. I’m going to tell you a little bit about who siron, siron is, is right, mhm, and then and then in the next episode we’ll go over his prosecution and the conspiracy theories.

Yeah, and the po dress, and the the girl in the polka dot dress, the CIA, the all the good stuff. The reason you’re here, we just got to make, we got, we got, we got, get gotta get the lessons. Okay, Siran, Sirhan, his name is Siran bashara siron, who’s born March 19th, 1945, in Jerusalem, which is when he became a Jordan Ian citizen. Oh, his family was Palestinian Christian, and he embraced his values. Siran was no stranger to violence, as he witnessed the Arab Israeli conflict as a child, and experienced the death of his older brother after he avoided gunfire. His family immigrated to the US when Siran was 12, first in New York, then California.

By age 20, which was 1964, siron found himself training to be a jockey, he was, he had to be small, he was, he was a small, and he weighed like 100 or 98 pounds. Yeah, by age 20, unfortunately this would not last long, suron suffered severe head injuries from falling and being kicked by a horse. Damn. Following this, he held odd jobs, he spent a lot of time at the library, see, like, G, janitor, he contin, he continually was reading Arab Israeli publications, all everything that he can get on, and then he took a special interest in the ult and spiritual topics. Oh, great. Around, and if you don’t know what a cult is, it’s having to do with spiritual, or can, me help me out with this definition, having to do with mystic, yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s like mystic, mystic practices.

I’ll give you the, I’m, I’m going to give you the actual definition of a cult, so, supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena, there you go, yeah, cool. So it’s like, of, involving or relating to those things. Yeah, but what’s interesting is, sometimes there is a fine line between religion and a cult, because you’re talking about spiritual supernatural things, of course, obviously when you’re talking about the spirit, whether or not that is supernatural is deb, trust me, like, if you wanted to, you know, let’s say you’re back in the day, and, you know, Jesus comes around and he starts healing people with his hands, you’re like, that some ault [bleep].

I like, how’s he doing that, that’s right, he’s walking on water, he’s, he’s turning water into wine, like, sketch. Yeah, so depending on how you twist it, it could be of the ult, or it could be religious. Yeah, of course, a very fine line, very fine, and obviously a lot of the occult [bleep] too, they, they’ll call it ault, but it’s like, you know, devil worshippers, that’s considered a cult, you know, and that’s mostly how I’ve heard it. That is weirdly enough a weird religion. Yeah, you know, they, that’s what they, you know, that’s their belief system, the satanics, or, yeah, well, they worship the devil, so, like, they’re, that’s a religion, you’re worshiping a deity, like, it’s your, that’s your God, de, de, like a god.

Yeah, no, but it is interesting, it’s, it’s all, you know, like you said, it’s a very fine line, if you twist it in one way it’s like, oh, that’s a cultist, but then if you’re like, hey, you’re a church abiden citizen, yeah, they’re like, it’s not a cultist. No, it’s, it’s, but you’re praying to something that is, you know what I mean, you know, it is, it’s just a way, it’s a way, like, things that are outside of the norm, it’s a way to kind of, like, [bleep] on them, make it, like, make it less. It does seem like a, I, it does seem like a propaganda word, it is, it is, to be honest, because, like, they’ll be the same thing, but, like, oh, it’s cult people, likeo, yeah, no, no, because if somebody comes up to you and they go, sweetie, as long as you got God in your heart, right, it’s a sweet, sweet statement, yeah, right, you’re not like in the back going, occultist, like, you’re [bleep], you know what I mean, I wonder, I wonder, it’s just like a slander word, I wonder if, like, you know, and I’m not going to K, like, you know, because obviously, you know, Muslims are actually the largest religion on the planet, they have like two, two billion people or something, I wonder if they look at Christianity, they’re like, the cultist [bleep] pagans, it’s weird.

Propaganda is crazy. I know, it’s wild. Uh, so he he started to get into that, and he started to get into, but it’s weird, because it’s occult and spiritual topic, so it’s whether or not it is. Anyways, I, I’ll tell you more, and you can kind of determine if it’s the word ult or spiritual, I mean, ault, ault typically comes with a bad connotation, like they’re doing some sacrifice, I think we got that point across, right. So around that same time, siron began to voc about his tension, about the tensions between Israel and Palestine, which has been going on for for thousands of years, still, it’s still kind of going on right now.

Yeah, so, uh, specifically The Six Day War that began in ’67, and he had once liked RFK’s policies until Kennedy expressed his support for Israel, saying, thank you for letting me have your views on the war in the Near East, we can welcome the un’s call for a ceasefire, but a ceasefire is not enough, we must deal with the causes of conflict by ensuring a permanent and enforcable guarantee of Israel’s rights to live secure from invasion and free passage for ships of all nations through the Gulf of akba in the Suz Canal. Siran, when he heard of Bobby’s betrayal, said he ran from the room, his bet, were like, the [bleep] homies, yes, you swore that, you.

So he ran from the room, witnesses say he ran from the room, nearly crying. The alleged motives of Sirhan was to plan an attack on RFK on the one-year anniversary of the start of that Six-Day War. In his diary that was later revealed, in January of ’68 he wrote, RFK must die, and I quote, my determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more of an unshakable obsession. Seems super convenient. He then purchased a 22 caliber revolver on June 1st, 1968, from lockstock and Barrel gun shop, and then he also put, they also found his diary, that’s right, on the on the passenger seat, along, along with the shell cas, s.

He then started studying the hotel layout, he went to the hotel the morning of June 4th, which is before witnesses placed siron at a gun range where he was practicing with his 22. I’m sorry, after the shooting sirhon found himself on trial in ’69. In interviews leading up to the trial, he alleged that he had visited the bar, and he met a girl in a polka dot dress at the Ambassador Hotel the night of the murderer, she was [bleep] fine, so hand’s like, yes, please, so they had a Tom Collins, as you do, they chatted over this, then he realized he was drunk, he stumbled away, he, like, [bleep], and this is per him, he decided he was unable to drive home, so he then decided to go to the kitchen to get a cup of coffee, I just walk in the kitchen, this so happens to be when Kennedy was coming off of the podium that he was going to the kitchen to get a cup of coffee.

Okay, first of all, he ordered the, did he go to the bar in behind the bar and make himself a Tom Collins, like, wouldn’t he be like, sir, can I have a coffee please, I’ll, this is when, this is when chaos ensued and sirhon says he blacked out. Okay, come on now, okay, sirhon does not recall the shooting, he also says he doesn’t recall the shooting, I just recall the callof. This is, this is also, he says he does not recall having thoughts of killing him, even though it was written in his journal. Okay, I get behind that. In a hypnotic state, sirhon began scribbling the words practice and mind control repeatingly, raising questions about, and this is where it leads to The Manchurian Candidate.

Oh, yeah, sounds, what’s his middle, what’s his middle name, uh, uh, it is Siran bashara Siran, it’s like, Siran, Siran bashara, mhm, Siran bashara Siran, it’s kind of like an MK Ultra a little bit. Yeah, yeah, so if you don’t know, uh, if you don’t know what the, if you if you don’t know what the murrian candidate is, it’s a movie in a book, it’s good movie, yeah, and it was about a sleeper cell based on hypnotizing somebody to become a political party for the Communist Party, that was the original book, yeah, then, like, in the movie, like, he was, he was like running, and he was like activated, like, yeah, they would activate over the phone, and then he would literally just, like, see white, and they did two movies, they did one with, uh, Sinatra and [bleep] that movie, and then they did one with, was it Denzel, no, yeah, Denzel, but who’s the who’s the guy who play, who is the man In cany, he was in Marvel, yeah, he’s, he’s Liam, no, yeah, no, it’s a, uh, he’s a great guy, he’s a great horri with good actor, it’s a [bleep] good movie, yeah, he, he plays like he’s Sabertooth in in the X-Men movie, Le sh, Le shriber, that’s right, yeah, so but that’s where that whole conspiracy started, is, is then thinking, you know, he was hypnotized, he blacked out, he doesn’t remember it.

I love how that’s how that’s how the conspiracy started, not like all the other, like, weird [bleep], like, oh, he didn’t, he didn’t remember, sketchy to buy a a revolver, he happened to see the Polkka dot girl, he happened to see, get a go get a coffee in the right spot at the right time, just happened to go WS into the kitchen, and he’s like, get fetch me a coffee, and they’re like, okay, yes, sir. So here’s the strange part, and you know, this is kind of, we’re going to wrap up on this episode. Sorry, just real quick, you did say that he got shot at at like midnight, it was like midnight, yeah, why is there 100 kitchen st at midnight?

Well, because it’s this big, it’s the big speech thing, it wasn’t all kitchen st, it was all reporters and the campaign managers, and they were waiting to see if they won, and they were kind of like following him too, yeah, it was a victory speech, and, you know, that sort of thing. Well, [bleep] whatever his name Manuel was, [bleep] working in there, what was his name, rero, Romero, Romero, it’s close enough, Romero. So the odds and evidence were not in Sir Han’s favor, and he was deemed fit for trial, but psychiatrist noted he had mental health issues, but they said he was like, he was [bleep] sharp, and he, that was the witnesses, oh, no, no, no, no, those was the cops, no, the cops said that he was sharp when they, I know, but that’s a witness, it’s not a professional mental health person.

Oh, okay, you know what I mean, like, per the law, fine, whatever, yeah, yeah, so he initially, uh, professional, he initially said he was not guilty, then he withdrew his plea of not guilty, and he submitted a guilty plea. The judge did not allow the plea, and continued the casee, what, no, like, shut the, he’s probably trying to get a deal, like, yeah, like, yeah, don’t give me the death penalty, like, you know, possibility for parole in 50 years, like, [bleep], it. They went forward with the trial, and they found him guilty, and then he, and he’s been in jail ever since, yeah, yeah. Wasn’t like there was some recent thing, and I’m going to, we’re going to go over it more in the next episode, because I think it’s important to go over who believes he’s innocent, and who believes he’s guilty, almost like the MLK thing, where the MLK’s family is like, he [bleep], this man is innocent.

So don’t forget, there’s 11 children, so they all have opinions, including our presidential candidate RFK J, that’s right. So they all have their own opinions, but on January 13th, 2022, California Governor Gavin Nome denied Sirhan’s latest parole. Well, that’s fine, I, I, 17th parole appearance, J, so he’s, he’s been rejected 17 times. Gav, like, authority over the parole board, as the governor, I don’t know how that works, I don’t, I don’t know what, how the power works, yeah, but yeah, but imagine you’re the governor that lets him out, like, he just, and especially if he’s trying to run for president, which we don’t really know if he is or not, like, yeah, that’s why he gets denied, everybody, everybody’s going to deny him, nobody wants to get, no, no, I mean, or the evidence is just not there, it hasn’t been there for [bleep] years.

My thing is, like, I, I understand why I just hate Gavin, new, but I also wasn’t, I didn’t know that the government, the governor had that V power. I, I have no idea, I don’t know how the [bleep] works, they have uhome does, they have the ability to pearl, they, I think they final say of a pearl, I think they have final say of a pearl. So there you go, so he’s still in jail, and we lost RFK, and, and that’s, that’s the the story of the night, uh, of what happened, and, you know, the play byplay, blow, and all that sort of thing, and, and then in next episode we’re going to talk about, of course, the woman in the polka dot dress.

I’m, I’m really, I’m like, I have no idea about this, I just keep thinking of Matrix one, yeah, it’s like, mat, he’s like, were you looking at me, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress, he’s like, look again, he, like, he’s like, freeze it. Yeah, so the the main conspiracies are this, the woman in the, are we going to, why are we going, the conspiracies, oh, no, I’m just telling you, set it for next time. Oh, I’m tell, they, are we’ll talk about them next time, my bad, my bad, my bad. So the main conspiracies are that the woman in the polka dot dress was some sort of handler, or some sort of activator, right, she, like, licks his earl and he’s like, the other one, qui question, did we go over it, she, so she was at the bar, but she was also in the kitchen, correct, and she was also fu everywhere, she was also running up in down the stairs, per witnesses, she’s everywhere, bro, crazy, this one part weird, I know.

Uh, the other ones are that the one of his guard security people just pulled the gun and popped him in the back of the, oh, like, they saw the surun guy with a gun, and they’re like’s got a gun, I mean, close, I mean, it’s interesting that there were multiple bullets that they couldn’t technically identify where they came from, that’s right, they, they just assumed that it was from Sir Han’s gun, that’s right, that’s right, and then we’ll go over there’s the bullet count, the acoustics that we kind of talked about a little bit, you know, that sort of thing, the BS, uh, bullet holes in the walls, yeah, that’s right, that’s right, that’s right, and then, uh, and then we’re also going to talk about what the family has said, um, because RFK Jr has some quotes about what he believes happened, uh, he believes that his uncle, his uncle was killed by the CIA, JFK, and so he has, he pryal, very vocal about it, he has other things to say, including the other family mers, that’s why they probably didn’t give him secret service, cuz he’s like, [bleep], true, they’re like, yeah, we’re good.

So there you go, guys, that’s episode 61, I think 62 somewhere around there, yeah, something like that, in the 6, part two of, uh, this, you know, series here, yeah, there go, we’re going to do three parts, right, we’re do three parts. So the next one will be all the conspiracies finale. Yeah, and then, guys, if you really want, start, no, so I know, I know that a lot of people get all, like, [bleep] pissy, you get hyped up and they’re like, you didn’t [bleep] do your research, or this and that, like, look, we want to hear about it, like, we, this, this is just, you know, we’re a couple hour slots into talking about it, and, yeah, obviously, like, we may miss things, and, you know, we have, we have lives, and, you know, kids, and we have to take care of them, and, you know, we can’t do this full-time.

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