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Okay, so anys, back to, back to the show. Yeah, all right, so this episode is about Dorothy kilgallen and the kennedies, another Kennedy. So one of the many conspiracies. So what’s cool about this episode is that it ties in about four or five episodes we’ve done already, right? Oh, lovely. So it ties in the assassination of JFK, which we did five episodes on that. Um, it ties in Marilyn Monroe, the death of Marilyn Monro, uh, that was a couple episodes there. So definitely check those out, because we’re going to talk about some things in those cases that she brought up, and it would benefit you if you watch those, or if you listen to those episodes.

Yeah, you know what I mean, cuz we’ll go over, like, the death of Marilyn, but if you don’t know, the two hours that we did on mer, you know what I mean. So check those out, uh, they’re in our catalog. And, uh, here we go, let’s do it, I’m ready. So Dorothy kilgallen was an influential American journalist. She was also a television personality, an author whose investigative prowess and charism presence left a mark on media and public perception. She was like, a, one of the first female, like, go get him news reporters. Oh yeah, like hard-hit ball buster. Yes. Ex, you know, they’re like, uh, at the hard question, she’s like, what, you’re on the spot, and they’re like, [bleep], exactly, we’re live, you can’t, you can’t skate it%.

So she was born on July 3rd, 1913, in Chicago, Illinois. Damn, 1913, holy [bleep]. Uh, she died, di, in, [bleep], yeah, yeah, it is. She died in 1965. Okay, okay, okay, wow. So she was only 52. Yeah, that’s right. So she was a te, television personality, she was on this show, we’ll go over it in a second, but, but basically the, she was investigating the JFK, because this was all when JFK was murdered, and then she was investigating this, and the Jack Ruby trial. Oh yeah. And then all of a sudden, she died. Oh wow. All of a sudden, it got, literally just like, you think about the kennedies, and you’re getting, you’re getting killed, like, off.

Yeah, so this is almost like another Kennedy episode. Yeah, another Kennedy subcategory, like people who knew the kennedies. So Dorothy Mill Gallen was born into a family that was steeped in journalism. Her father James was a well-known newspaperman, uh, which undoubtedly influenced her career path. Her early exposure to journalism, in her father’s professional environment, laid the foundation for her, you know I mean, f following the footsteps. That’s dope. Ex, she went to the College of newelle, is that you say that, Newell? She left before graduating, because she just decided to go journalism fulltime. Yeah, it’s like, overrated, like, why am I going to, py, pain.

She quickly made a name for herself with her sharp wit and writing and Keen observation skills. By her early 20s, she had joined the New York evening Journal, where she would write a column, and the column was the voice of Broadway. And this was obviously about Broadway, but then she would mix in celebrity gossip news, and then she started to Branch into politics. I think it’s good, at least, at least she, she obviously started on like a Fluff thing, like brought, but at least it wasn’t like best recipes, you know, like that, WR, in that column, best way to clean, into, uh, early stages of like TMZ style or something.

You guess what, you might have heard this weekend, but you see that a lot nowadays, where they, they started in something, like, I don’t know if you’ve looked into like Rogan did, um, what was that, that TV show he did? Oh my God, Fear Factor, Fear Factor, where like hands are putting in like snakes and [bleep], like, are you ready to do it? You remember the Dave Chappelle, I’m Joe rer from MC’s Fear Factor, so he went from that to, you know what I mean, yeah, to now. Yeah, yeah, um, also Anthony bdan, like, he’s, he, uh, was just a cook in New York, and then he wrote a book about, like, the atrocities of behind the scenes cooking, you know, and that lach his career.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there’s, there’s all sorts of stories about people who would maybe not find their way, and then, and then they finally find their Niche, and they’re like, oh, this is where, this where I Bel. Exactly. So the voice of Broadway was syndicated across the US, it reached millions of readers a day, when newspapers with the [bleep], like the hotness, they were super good, pre internet. Yeah, uh, she had the ability to blend gossip with political and social commentary, so it made her Crush in’s world. So she, she was like the original influencer, then. Yeah, but, but, but there was an, an intellectual angle to it, so it wasn’t just like, oh, [bleep], look at Kim K’s ass, that’s just wild, whatever, seriously, influencers when they were smart, before, like, before they, before they, influencer.

But what happened is that, uh, during her, her time on voice of the Broadway column, she established, like, connections, and it was like, who you knew. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. So that, like, kind of launched her into a new category. Yeah, new realm, because, you know, everybody, you know, all the connections, you know, the hots, and you know, the social cires. Yeah, not just the, the hot actress, but the, the, you know, Frank notra coming in, and then, by, and then, when, when you have those connections, those people like reach out to you, like, you going to want to hear about this.

Yeah, right, not, didn’t come from me. Yeah, yeah, Anonymous, anous, anous. In 1950, she got a role on a TV show called What’s My Line. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of this, sounds like Whose Line is in anyway. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. It’s awesome, actually, I watched about five episodes of this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can go on YouTube and you can watch it, and it’s awesome. Basically, what they do is, they have a panel of experts, and then they have somebody that comes in, and, and only the audience knows that they, um, polish door knobs, that’s their job, okay, right, and then they have to ask questions, and they have a certain amount of questions, yes or no questions, so it’s like 20 Questions.

Yeah, 100%, 20 questions. It’s awesome. It was actually very, they’re like, are you a dude, they’re like, yes. I watch, I watched one episode where it was like, he made polls for Flags, it’s like, how do you even get, I know, yeah, and then they eventually, you know, like, how do you, they gu, they get that one, un, yeah, that’s impossible, like, what do you do, do you work with anything, yes, but she was on that for 15 years. Holy wow, [bleep], literally till the day she died, she was on that show. She, on the show she died, and then the next episode, they did an episode, and I watched the episode when, uh, they said she passed.

Oh, [bleep], you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you can go watch it, it’s on YouTube, uh, and it’s on a bunch of different places, but it’s, it’s an interesting, interesting thing. But basically, the point of that, though, is that she was on TV. She was like, she was, yeah, yeah, she wasn’t like, she’s not like celebrity, but like, she’s well known. She was known. Yeah, yeah, exctly. But it’s also like, especially at that time, boy, Jerry Springer or something. Yeah, especially at that time, like pre, like pre- internet, if you were also on TV, and you were riding, people would be like, like you associate names with, like, faces much stronger, like, oh wow, I saw her, I saw her on, and, and everyone, when you had TV, everybody watched that, watched the same, there was three shows, everyone was watching that, [bleep], there was that, show is on at Sunday night, I know, like, shut up, my, my program’s on, like, fing TV dinners, salb steak, my stories.

Do you think that was a good time or not? I think it was the best time. Yeah, I mean, probably, because also those TV ders were probably legit. It was probably like legit, legit. Food, I always just think of, like, hungry man, you know. Oh yeah, covered in gravy. Dude, I, I, I rewatched, me and, me and my wife rewatched the, the, the first, um, True Detective. Yeah, and I just, there’s this, so one part where it’s like, he’s alone, he’s eating his TV din, I’m like, damn, a, I know, so sad. He, like, Burns himself on, like, the plastic. I was like, damn, man, that’s like the saddest [bleep] I’ve ever seen.

I don’t know if you’ve ever had them, but the mashed potatoes always get [bleep] up. Oh yeah, they always get [bleep] up, don’t ever do it. Yeah, like, like half of it, crispy, it’s like microwave burn, microw, it’s like chemical burn. Anyway, so, so another thing that she’s known for is that she was, uh, investigating a trial that was happening, um, for Dr. Sam Shepard, Dr. Sam shephard. I don’t know if you’ve heard of this movie, but, uh, Harrison Ford came out with a movie called The Fugitive. Oh yeah, oh my God, is this a switch to samples? Switch to, so this, this trial was based on that, or that movie was based on this trial.

Okay, so he was a doctor, uh, his wife died at home, and there was a big trial, and a big thing about, you know, you know, it was Loosely based. Yeah, it wasn’t, you know, very sensationalized for the movie, but the point being is, is that she investigated that, and she, that’s when she kind of branched off into not gossip but investigative journalism. Yes, investigative journalism. Okay, yeah, so, um, anyways, there’s a lot to go over on that, but that trial happened, um, and then, then she started investigating something called the JFK assassination. This little thing. Yeah, I’ll take aab at that one. In Americana, the biggest story ever, history of mankind.

Uh, she said a lot about the, the, uh, Warren Commission, she didn’t like the Warren Commission. I didn’t like the Warren Commission either. And she concluded that, um, [bleep], it’s [bleep], conspiracy, that’s, she, like, something’s, a, she hated the fact that it concluded that Lee rvy, uh, acted alone. Yeah, yeah, no way. And so she started investigating this, and this is around 64, so 63 he died, in 64 she started investigating. Also, she died in 65. She died in 65. So she also started investigating the Jack Ruby, so she was really part of the Jack Ruby trial. In Jack, she even went to the trial.

Okay, it was in the court, probably one of the caricatures. Yeah, yeah, so her investigation led to believe that there were more layers to the assassination plot, possibly involving powerful individuals or organizations. She claimed to have information that, if she published, would have explosive ramifications. God, I wish we could have had her on the show. Kill Gallen even interviewed Jack Ruby. What, she, while he was on trial? While he was on trial. Damn, she’s definitely got connections. Holy [bleep]. So she did publish part of that interview, but she also had additional notes that she did not publish. Okay, yeah, that stash, in like a [bleep] briefcase, like there’s no hard drives.

Now, this was considered groundbreaking, because in those interviews with Ruby, he basically said that there was more to the story, and that there were aspects of the assassination that had not been explored. And, um, and so her notes, though, unfortunately, were never found. Of course. So, so what you just said is what she actually published, but we don’t know the other part of. Yes. Okay, that’s what got cleared by the editors. Yeah, exactly. Hey, everything, like 90% redacted, like, we got a business, run here. So, uh, now we’re going to touch on that a little bit later. Um, but during this time, there was also something called the Sinatra feud.

[bleep] Sinatra. So she, gun, so Dorothy and Sinatra were friends at a certain point. That’s a bad move. Shy. Okay, don’t, don’t drink the, the whatever he gives you. They even have, like, a photograph of them rehearsing in a radio studio in 48, and there, you know, anyways. So then in 56, she wrote an article about him, rap, it was called, it was called the real Frank Sinatra story. Mhm, rapist. And it was not well looked upon about Sinatra. Yeah, that he was a womanizer, really, that, you know, all sorts of different things, his connections to the mob, all that sort of thing. So then they started to have a bit of a feud.

He started saying, saying horrible things about how she looked. Classic [bleep]. Classic. He started to just say how ug, like, why would I even hang out with him, [bleep] mongal. Now, of course, he would never say her name, but imp, everybody knew, and that one famous news angle, who I hung out with at one time, [bleep], [bleep] fat [bleep], she weighed like 98 lb, [bleep] fat [bleep]. She never resolved it with Sinatra. It just reminds me of, wasn’t there a part in, um, what’s, what’s the movie with Miles Teller, where they, the the offer? Yeah, wasn’t there a part where, like, which, theer, the offer, offer, you should check it out, it’s really, it’s a show, it’s a show, it’s a show about the making of, of The Godfather, it’s actually really good, fantastic.

But there, a part of cantra, like, they’re talking [bleep], he’s like, I’ll [bleep], pissed, like, at a, at a dinner club or whatever. Such a dick. Yeah, like, I feel like he actually had to be, everyone’s like, he’s a dick, honestly, he’s not, not even kidding, you should watch that, it’s really good, it’s like six episodes, I think it’s like eight, it’s, it’s, it, D, phenomenal, like, hourong ease, you know. Yeah, it’s good, we like Bening it, that’s that good. Yeah, then Dorothy started writing in her column about these major murders, and, and, and celebrity deaths, and JFK, and that sort of thing. And so I thought it was appropriate to read a couple of her columns.

Totally. Yeah, yeah, and one of the columns is, a, about Marilyn Monroe’s death. Yeah, now again, if you have not listened to our Marilyn Monroe episodes, go listen to those, because, you know, you guys, you guys know all about it, so we’ll be able to understand what she’s talking about, of course. Yeah, okay, so she said, this was August 5th, 1962. Okay, uh, Dorothy said, if the woman described as Marilyn’s housekeeper, Unice MH, is really a housekeeper, why was Marilyn’s bedroom such a mess? Yeah, I think we brought that up, in the, remember the photos. Yeah, it was a [bleep] disaster. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a small house, and should have been easy to keep tidy.

Why was Marilyn’s door locked that night? Yeah, right, when she didn’t usually lock it. If she was trying to get to sleep and took the overdose of pills accidentally, why was the light on? Usually people sleep better in the dark. H, I did not think about that. Why did the first doctor arriving on the scene have to call the second doctor before calling the police? Yes, sketch, any doctor, even a psychiat, knows a dead person when he sees one. I think any person knows a dead person when they see, especially when rigger mortise is set in, and there are marks of lividity on the surface of the face and body.

Why the consultation of the second doctor? Why the big time Gap, in such a small town, Mrs. Murray gets worried at 3:00 a.m., it’s almost 6:00 a.m. before the police get to the scene. Yeah, yeah, I’m worried. These are all things that we talked about in that episode we did. That’s right. The real story hasn’t been told, not by a long shot. Sleep well, well, sweet girl, you have left more of a legacy than most, if all you ever left was a handful of photographs of one of the loveliest women who ever walked the face of the Earth. Damn, that was like, so sleep well, I mean, like, DN, she’s talking about this, she’s talking about this in, in, you know, in 1962.

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, like that [bleep] got brushed in. So, like, she, this is, she would have been on the show. Oh, 100%, I me, she’ have been like expert with, she was like 120, but we’re like, all right, baby girl, like, just walk us through it, one step, one step at a time. Yeah, okay, so now we move on, or we move over to, uh, Lee Harvey Oswald. Okay, and like I said, I’m just reading her columns, she was, she was writing, she was doing like podcast episodes essentially, in W paper, yes, in, in columns, as it was happening. So, um, the, the column was, why did Oswell risk all by shooting cop?

Yeah, like, seriously, like, what the [bleep]. So April 4th, outside the theater, like, [bleep] you. April 4th, 1964. A mysterious and significant aspect of the events following the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas has never been explored publicly, although it must have occurred to crack reporters covering the case, as well as authorities investigating the tragedies, the important question: why did Lee Harvey oswal, presumably fleeing from the police after the assassination, approach patrolman JD tippit’s car in broad daylight, with Witnesses standing by, and shoot the policeman three times, although he had not said a single word to Oswald? Yeah, it’s not like he was, stopped him, was like, hey, who are you, and there was like six Witnesses.

Like, they’re all like just standing there, like, what the fu thing, there was Witnesses. So, but why, like, meruan candidate, is ass, Lee, if he was, Harvey, Harvey, he is literally escaping from assassin, if, if it’s true. Yeah, he’s, he’s escaping the scene. Yeah, stay away from all cops. He’s like, [bleep] it, po, just walk up, that guy looked at me, WR, [bleep] him, got to go. Oswald had managed to slip away. Wait, what, I don’t remember, was he just standing there, or he was after him? Right, because that’s, I remember, back when we were doing the episode, it was, at least the way we said it, if I remember correctly, it was more like he stopped him, or he saw him on the street, and then he was trying to stop him, and then that’s, we know, but we don’t know, real.

You know, but the way she’s putting it here, it’s like, it’s more, this cop is like asleep in his car, and he’s like, shut up, [bleep] Mak sound, he’s like scrolling Tik Tok, he’s scrolling TI to looking like booty video, and then he grabbed his sidearm, and he pointed it sideways, and yelling gang signs, like, lit, six shooting, like. So Oswald had managed to slip away from the scene, and was up to that point not a reckless one. A man who knows he is wanted by the authorities after a spectacular crime does not seek out a policeman, usually, unless he has decided to give himself up, and certainly Oswald was not doing that.

By shooting tippet, instead of trying to make himself inconspicuous, Oswald put himself in Double Jeopardy, his act almost guaranteed his arrest. Why? A who dun it fan would infer that the policeman knew something about oswal that was so dangerous, had to be silenced at any cost, even oswal’s chance at escape and freedom. Isn’t it funny how, like, all these ones, like, even if, like, the, the shooter does something so stupid, it’s like, even when we did the MLK one, the, like, he’s like the murder weapon, he’s like, I’ll just leave it right here, bit of evidence back. I know, like, my gloves and, like, my fingerprints on all the bullets, like, like, what, why would you do that?

It’s true, they’re all idiots. I know, it’s like, they’re all IDI, like all these, like, expert assassins are just all stupid. Al, but maybe that, that, that brings it forward, or, like, that makes us understand that maybe criminals are idiots. True. In general, they always want to be caught, they always want to, not want to be caught, but like, they, they do want to be caught, they do want to be caught, in ignorant. Yeah, yeah, you go, I just don’t think that all these high-profile ones, they, they can’t all be that. Like, yeah, even if you would eventually still get caught. But in essence, like, I left my driver’s license with a picture, me killing, oops.

He’s like, like, come on. Remember the guy, remember the MLK, he’s like, he dropped his driver’s license, and then jerked off in the bag, like, like, an, like a letter address to his, his, like, steakout house, like, oopsies, his 23 and Me pack. Oh, [bleep], I love my 23, 2% African, like, 23. Okay, so on November 8th, 1965, Dorothy kilgallen was found dead in her New York City apartment. The official cause of death was an overdose of alcohol and bbits, ruled accidental. After she just was like, what were the lights off, though? So, so, K G, so kill G was found dead in a bedroom she rarely used.

She was fully dressed, and she was sitting up in her bed, her reading glasses and a book were neatly arranged, which was unusual for her. Friends and colleagues noted that kilig gallon typically read in a different room, and that the scene did not align with her normal habits. Oh, they, like, try to stage it, like, oh, everyone reads an abandoned book, and, like, right, it’s, she’s like, I never have slept in that bedroom, not one time. The unusual circumstances of her death led to questions about how she ended up in that room specifically, in whether someone might have staged the scene to make her death appear accidental.

Also, like, I can’t imagine, like, I don’t know, I’m not a like OD expert, but I can’t imagine he, like, OD sitting up, like, wouldn’t your body be, like, like, don’t you, like, fall over? Maybe, I don’t know, I don’t know, I’m not like some expert. But so it was alcohol and, yeah, yeah, so barbituates are a thing, then, huh. I mean, Marilyn, Marilyn Maro died on barbit, but, like, what are other names for barbituates? So, like, what would be nowadays barbituates nowadays, I guess? Well, they’re downers, right, so it’d be like, a, uh, like an ambient, I guess, or something like that, it helps you sleeping, pills, anti- anxiety sleeping pills, that type of thing.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think downers is a big category too, like, I mean, any, any opiate is considered a downer, anything that’s like that is like suppressing the central nervous system, or, like, any sort of operating system of the body, is consider, makes, alcohol, I mean, alcohol is a downer, alcohol itself is a downer. True. So, uh, why you po, why you pointing your coat tip, don’t take, don’t take downers and that out. So don’t take sleeping aids and downers and barbituates with boo. How about, just don’t take bar, just don’t take bar. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, they’re, they’re trying to go to sleep, right, isn’t that what they’re trying to do?

Yeah, I guess, I mean, that’s usually what you would take it for. Yeah, that, or like anxiety, [bleep] right, okay, to calm down. Yeah, relax. Yeah, relax, exactly. All right, well, one of the most intriguing aspects of her death, uh, aside from the weird circumstance in the room, Etc, was that, uh, her notes in manuscript related to JFK disappeared. My God, fancy that. Yeah, she was like, you know, Co, she’s like, I’ll delete the, I’ll burn these before I off myself. So she was known for being, for keeping detailed notes, and she had been working on a book about the JFK assassination. Oh my God.

These materials vanished, and umy theories. Yeah, this is sketch as [bleep], like, already hella sketch. Yeah, especially considering that she was a meticulous journalist. So your whole job is keeping notes. Oh, of course, you wouldn’t, they wouldn’t just be misplaced. Yes, exactly. And the fact that, like, all of her friends were like, why was she in that room, like, she never use that [bleep] room. Yeah, she read over there in the study. Look at all perfectly, she’s like, propped up, sitting up. I know, they, she, she on the bed, like, she’s like, the book, reading glasses, are like. Yeah, so several theories suggest that Kil Gallen was silenced because she was close to uncovering the truth about the JFK assassination.

Sor, the theories proposed that her death was orchestrated by powerful entities to prevent her from publishing her findings. Okay, uh, she apparently, that she found new leads in the JFK assassination, it wasn’t necessarily like a smoking gun of, she solved it, but she was like, I’m on to something, and I’m going to get to the bottom of it, and they’re like, don’t get to the bottom of it, whatever you do. So, and that, then the timing of her death was right when, you know, she was about to release it. Basically, sketch. So here are some of the theories, you ready? Yeah, yeah. Government involvement. 100%.

I mean, I mean, did I have to say it, we all knew, I was thinking it. One of the most popular theories is that the government operatives or agencies that were involved, uh, killed her. Uh, they argue that her investigative work on the JFK assassination posed a significant threat to the narrative, uh, prompting a further cover up, a loose end. Yeah, of the JFK assassin, just reminds me, like, Good Fellas, but they just start [bleep], they just, at the end, they just kill off everybody who’s [bleep], kill everybody who’s involved, like, everyone’s losing. So the theory is, is that they, she was being watched. Totally, and then, you know, just imagine you’re watching somebody, and then you go, say they go out to dinner, you go into their apartment, check out their books, check out their notebooks, saw something, we’re like, yeah, like, she’s got to go, she’s got to, she’s know, she knows too much, she got to go.

Yeah, or like, this will lead, yeah, she’s on the right track. Yeah, right, like, it’s too close for comfort now. Yeah, yeah. Now again, um, it’s hard to say much of this without conclusive evidence, because it’s not that hard to say, it’s more continual. I mean, I was pretty much saying this with no evidence, with not even knowing about the story, I’m like, three minutes in, I was like, uh, government. So another theory is Mafia. I thought about that for a second, but, uh, yeah, so far I’m going with the first one. Yeah, I me, you go, you go, you go, the, like, she had a feud with Sinatra.

Okay, okay, then she was with talking with Jack Ruby, though, they seemed like they were, they were tight. I know, but Jack Ruby has connections to the mafia. What I’m saying, but like, not like she ended off with Jack Ruby badly, wasn’t like, she’s like, Jack Ruby’s like, fat fat [bleep], get my [bleep]. True, true, but maybe, but maybe Sinatra had enough sway to be like, we got to get, she was writing about JFK, she was writing about Ruby, she was writing about Marilyn, all, every single one of those, in Sinatra. Yeah, so every single one of those has the, the mafia as the conspiracy.

But maybe what we’re doing wrong here is like, why are the, the government and the mafia separated? What if they, what if, I mean, the government, in essence, is, is the mafia. True, true. Yeah, that’s the legal mafia. So, uh, what do you think she found? Hey, it’s Kaye Quo for Price Line, ready to go to your happy place for a happy price? Well, why didn’t you say so, just download the Price Line app right now, and save up to 60% on hotels, so whether it’s cousin Kevin’s kazoo concert in Kansas City, go Kevin, or Becky’s bachelorette bash in Bermuda, you never have to miss a trip ever again.

So download the Price Line app today, your savings are waiting. To your happy price, go to your happy price, Price Line. I mean, she probably, that’s hard to say, you know what I mean, I mean, she probably just got like other leads, of like, maybe other people that were involved, or like in, like, that were a part of it, that were never kind of talked to, or maybe that there was other witnesses to the actual murder itself. That, cuz you remember, like, in the warrant commission, it was very nebulous, like, you don’t know, like, who they all talk to, they only released, like, oh, this is what we found, blah.

So maybe, guys on the railroad, yeah, maybe there. Was people that were like, were like pushed down, don’t, don’t listen to them, don’t listen to them. And she actually got real detailed information from them, was going to release that, like, hey, here’s what they said, remember those guys in Calvin Klein suits? Oh yeah, exactly, who were like Drifters. Yeah, like by the fence, like by the CR. I know, like, what are you doing? The Calvin Klein, could it, could definitely be that, but it could also just be almost like she didn’t have anything, but she’s stirring up this, this drama, she gets killed for nothing.

She’s like hyping it up. I mean, it’s, it’s more of, like, for get, gets killed for doubt, because they already had the warant commission, right, it was almost like they, case closed it. Oh yeah, right, and then she keeps writing about it, and then starts, um, stirring up all these conspiracies, people, maybe just make people think, keep thinking about it, like, they just want, they just want a closure. Exactly. It’s like, you know, quit talking about this [bleep], quit, quit, like, bringing it up, and, like, bringing attention to the government, the conspiracies. Okay, that’s a good point. All right, I’m right, well, we’ll go over a couple more facts, um, and then, like, right after this, the government’s like, vom.

Oh, look at this. Uh, but if you want into, since her death, since her death, there’s tons of books, documentaries, uh, I mean, what’s interesting about the research of this, there’s not a lot, there’s a couple guys who are main stream, like, main proponents of this as a conspiracy, but that’s about it, and they just do lectures. No, they just do, they do lectures on, at school, m, they do podcasts about conspiracy, but there’s no, there’s no, like, it’s not really a mainstream, cuz you know, you never heard of Dar. Yeah, so I don’t know if it’s suppressed, or, I don’t know. Yeah, I mean, it’s obviously, you’re not, the, all the stuff, you have to, sometimes you realize how difficult it is to find the, the ulterior viewpoint on a thing.

Mhm, yeah, so difficult to find, like, alterior information, because all you get is what, like, this is what, this is what it is. That’s why, even if you look at his, the history books now are so weirdly altered, like, you won’t find, look at your kids history books now, you won’t find the [bleep] that happened with the Indians. Really? No, anymore, no way, they’re not telling you how much we [bleep] them over. Are you kidding me? Ruth, I had to go, I remember, being in college, because I, they never really gave us all the information, so I had to go to my college library, and I found one book, and that one book, they finally went over, like, showed a map of all the Indian territories over time, it was like a time lapse map, and you see, it’s like, these, m, they own everything, and then it’s like, and how we just [bleep] them out of everything, like, and we just force them out.

Oh, imminent, and it was like, you know, Manifest Destiny or imminent domain, it’s like, you know, oh, God told us that, you know, this is our land, and they’re like, what, and they’re like, yes. It does kind of contradict the whole, uh, everybody, give us you’re tired, you’re poor, you’re weak, like, you know, like, they were like, cuz you’re kind of, I mean, maybe it was after the fact, and I don’t want to blame our forefathers for what we did a hundred years earlier. Well, they also, they, like, they did it 200 years, they were like, give us your tired, your poor, your weak, from other places, the indigenous people got to go, but to be fair, that was 200 years earlier.

That’s true, it wasn’t, you know, and I mean, and to be fair, fair, it started with Spanish. Yeah, they were the original [bleep], let’s be real. So it would be kind of like blaming us for slavery. Exactly, which is, which is still happening today. You piece of [bleep]. I know, it is true, that actually just totally makes, did, I know, I’ve, like, heard people talk about that, I’m like, reparations, I’m like, I’m like, dude, my dad’s white, like, what are you, how can I get behind this? I know, like, that’s son of a [bleep], for birthing, like, like, how dare, heate, hard conversation, pie of [bleep], you owe me, it’s so stupid, I’m sorry, at the, like, the argument is, the argument is ridiculous.

So you don’t believe in reparations? No, my grandmother, who went through slavery, my grandmother’s, was lived through slavery, her, like, her mom was a slave, and my grandmother lived through slavery, she doesn’t want reparations, she doesn’t want anything. Yeah, she actually went through it, hyper racism, crazy segregation, the whole nine, and she’s not asking for any money. Yeah, why the [bleep] should we? With our Tik Tok, I got a degree art from New York University, like, give me reparations, like, shut the [bleep] up, like, seriously, it’s, it’s a different story of people who actually endured it, are like, hey, like, hook me up, 100%, you know what, I’m down.

But like, people who aren’t experiencing that, and, or if you wanted to take, uh, allocate funds to improve a neighborhood, sure, but it have to be, yeah, it shouldn’t be like individual, it shouldn’t be like, give me my stey check so I go to, like, the casino. L, yeah, cuz most of those places have either, you know. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I would be down with that, to improve, improve, like, imp, neighborhood. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea, I’d be down for that. There you go, Eric, Eric for PR. No, they already do that. No, they don’t, that, where those neighborhoods still suck, where, like, when are they doing it, m, down here it’s already been revamp.

Sh, sucks, it’s been revamped, what are you talking about, revamped, it doesn’t suck, I mean, I guess I would live down there. They repave the road. No, Rev did a bunch of road, they did a bunch of buildings, they did, yeah, bunch of landscaping. What, what do you want? I must be driving on the wrong side of the tracks, like, it’s like I stopped going there a long time ago. Even, I’m afraid to go there, I’m like, oh, I’m way too lightskinned for this [bleep]. What did you say, that a recent podcast, you were like, was it you, or was it you, like, MLK is always the worst, it’s always the worst?

Why is that? Even when I, when I lived in Cincinnati, I agree, we liv in Cincinnati, MLK was the worst streets. We’re talking about MLK streets, like, why are they always like so hood rat? It’s so unfortunate, like, it’s not like, you know, Thomas Jefferson Street is like, [bleep], like, hood rat, it’s like, [bleep], it’s like trap, it sucks. So true. It’s so weird, I don’t understand. Next time, next time I see a Jeffers, Jefferson Street, it’s going to be like opulent, like, [bleep], like, gentrified. 100%, mansion. A couple things before we kind of, do you know, figure out what we want to do, right here are a couple things that maybe that are just strange, and a couple other tidbits of, you know.

Okay, so the first thing, there was, an, apparently there was an unidentified visitor that visited her. She reportedly received visits from a mysterious individual. Friends and colleagues mentioned seeing unfamiliar people near her home, and suspected that she was being followed. These visitors have never been identified, and the purpose of following her, or being around her, remains unclear. H, i mean, dress in like black suits, Black Tie, and like, this is all the hearsay stuff. Yeah, see, but this is hearsay. My point is, like, she also lived in New York, where it’s like, there’s just weird people everywhere. So, you know, good point, that’s, but I don’t know, I expained, I feel like in the 60s it was not as [bleep].

Yeah, I mean, Maryland’s walking down the street, that’s a good point. Dagio, that’s a good point, I think it was less, definitely there was probably like 20 million less people there than there were rumors that kilgallen herself believed she was under surveillance by a government agency. She mentioned to friends and colleagues that she felt she was being watched, and her phone was tapped. See, this is why, it’s like, man, the government probably thrived before there was, like, CCTV. Oh yeah, like, do whatever the [bleep] they [bleep], YOLO. We got guys everywhere. I mean, [bleep], I get, they got the patri act now, they can just do whatever the hell they want too.

That’s a really good point. They like, yeah, National Security. Yeah, that’s tourist, T, tourist, there’s a tourist Terrace journalist activity, we got to keep it, ey, on her. So the main couple things about her death scene is that she had multiple prescription bottles nearby, and she, these, qu, basically, they don’t know where these came from, and she, nobody knew she was on prescription drugs, she like never filled a prescription ever. Yeah, that’s what I was going to say, like, she actually really like street, her, her friends said they didn’t know she was on prescription drugs. Okay, I mean, that’s, but it should be easy to verify, she got this prescrib, Dr.

John Smith. Yeah, but the point is, we don’t have the evidence of, right, of, were those prescribed to her, or watch, like, on, like, the crime scene, they’re like, well, we destroyed those. Of course, y, duh, that’s what we do, it’s standard operating procedure, destroy evidence. And then, of course, we talked about the unfinished book manuscript, um, which disappeared, disappeared, no idea where, that disappeared while she was reading in an upright position, in a bedroom she never went into. Yeah, so kill Gallen apparently had a secret source that she never revealed, right, uh, she was a journalist, so she had little bit noral have sources nous.

Kill Gallen had hinted, she hinted to friends that she had a secret source within the government who was providing her info about the JFK assassination. The identity of this informant never was revealed, and some speculate that this person might be aware, or involved in her death. See, the, the one thing I think about that. Is like, how do, what are the rules behind that, cuz I was just thinking that about this, having an anonymous source, couldn’t you just make some [bleep] up and just say you had an anonymous source? I got anous anonymous tip off here, and then you just write whatever you want. Write, literally, it’s like, I mean, I don’t know what the rules behind that, do you have to prove that they’re real?

Yeah, that’s a good point. I mean, maybe if you get sued for, uh, what’s that called, like, liable? Yeah, liable suit or something. Well, uh, there was also, apparently, there’s conflict ing sources or Witnesses, basically, cuz some of her friends say that her state of mind, and leading up to her death, was, she was jovial and good spirits, highly focused on work, and then there are other Witnesses who said she was struggling, frantic. Yes, manic, exactly. Uh, she was anxious, and she was worried, and did say she thought she was being followed, which would cause me a little anxiety. Yes, is it the same [bleep] sedan behind me, after writing about the same, you know, conspiracies, I, he, again, there, you know.

So there’s, it’s difficult to say. I mean, Eric still probably checks his, like, [bleep] closet for, for sh KN, for just make sure he didn’t get out. True, I’m not even kidding, I think about sugar Knight, a, I think about sugar KN more than I should be. Oh my God, I love you, bro, he’s like, it was all a joke, I love you, bro, he’s got like Parole in like 18 months, like, got a countown, I’m on a vacation for 6 months out. It’s a bit of an inside joke, if you haven’t, uh, listened to our Tupac, go out there, actually, and, um, biggie. Yeah, oh yeah, a little bit of Biggy suar everywhere, piece of [bleep].

Uh, so, uh, additionally, there was a lack of investigation, as is always in these, these crimes, or these, these suicides or murders or whatever, they just walked in and said it’s suicide, suicide, and she, get rid of, get rid of all the evidence. She was, she was a bit of a celebrity, like, she, you know, she was on TV, she was a journalist, la la la, and so you would think there would be a bit more effort into. Yeah, is, is one, once again, running theme with almost all these, either the cops are like inept, or they’re like open and shut. Yeah, like instantly, they’re like, anything involving the kennedies is always open a shut.

Yeah, bleach it. Yeah, bleach it, burn it, now if you want, burn the [bleep] place down. If you wanted to look further into Dorothy Gan, there, there is more to, uh, to go over, such as, uh, she was at the Jack Ruby trial, so there’s so much more that you could go into. Uh, you could watch some of her TV programs, you could read more of her articles, there’s a whole in-depth research about her, her nighttime activities, uh, of her, a bit of, like, aing the street. Yeah, I mean, I mean, just imagine you’re in the 60s, and you’re, uh, you’re a joural jist, and there’s no internet, this is free loving it.

So no, you go to the bars, you have a cocktail, you meet with this witness, you meet with that person, you interview this person, celebrity. Yeah, it’s not like I’m on Google depth interview. Yeah, I, I don’t have like, research called research, this for science. Nowadays it’s like big gulps and and Cheetos, and you’re just [bleep], TI tap tap. So I’m just saying, some people say she was a bit of like an alcoholic, and ripping Sig, like with her pencil, and some say she was Loosey Goosey, and just, you know, whatever, whatever needed to be done for the story, she, she had the makings of a crack [bleep] journalist.

So, uh, I’m just saying, there’s a lot more that you could research, and, um, you know, while I, I decided not to put a lot of that stuff in here, it’s because I couldn’t really see if it help the story, it actually more made her look worse. Okay, does that Mak sense, like, it was, it was, she would do whatever it take, took to, to get a story. Well, no, because I feel like she sleep with, you no, but, but that doesn’t make her look worse, in my opinion, because, yeah, especially in, I feel like, especially more than, like, more than it was, things were a lot.

Yeah, I feel that the government could, like, flex their muscles a little bit more, and they, like, we’ll just kill you, [bleep], and they’re like, okay. So I feel like, I like that about her, that she’s willing to do what it takes to get, just imagine you’re a female, you know, in all, it’s like Mad Men, they like, like, cuz, like, trust me, they’re all drinking, it’s not, that’s not like a shock. So I, I don’t know, but the point being is, there’s a lot more research that you could do, and so don’t [bleep] on us for [bleep] leaving stuff out, you know. But the point is, that, that this is the story, and, and this is what I, I found, was the most important parts of the story.

And so, here we go. I mean, she basically, it sounds like she knew what she was talking about, with Marilyn. Oh yeah, 100%, she was SP on. She thought, uh, Sinatra was a scumbag. He is, piece, total piece of [bleep], confirmed. Yeah, conf, confirmed, proven. She hated the Warren Commission, facts. You know what I mean, she, yeah, she sounds like she knows what she’s talking about, sounds like one of us. Um, maybe she had a bit of a drinking problem. Maybe sounds like one of us. I mean, we need to get merch, give me a shirt with kill Ganon on, G24 is my spirit, like literally, like the conspiracy, K Ganon.

So my questions for you, at the end of this, are, are two, which is, one, was she killed? Yes. Yes. Two, what did she find out? Who’s first? We’re gna go with horge, hor first. I’m just, I think I’m going to go back to what I was saying before, I don’t know that she found out. I think she was on the right path of finding out the truth about, she was just poking the bear. Yeah, yeah, and, but I think it’s more related to the fact of, like, look, you’re putting out all these stories, some of them could be confirmed, I don’t know, you got Anonymous sources, or whatever, right, but the fact is that you’re putting out this, this story to the public, and then public is starting to question even more, so the JFK conspiracy, and I think it was just kind of like stirring things up, and, and they just wanted to silent her.

Yeah, you know. Okay, yeah, like approval, approval, did she get the Maryland thing right? Yeah, I, I bet, I bet she got a lot of stuff right, you know, and that she was asking the right questions. Well, yeah, and she was putting out the right information too, and so they were like, oh, [bleep], like, you know, either we take her out, or, you know, we risk her finding out the real truth about, like, what’s behind the, the conspiracy behind JFK killing or murder, um, and they didn’t want to risk that. Yeah, okay, I feel like, I think it go, goes like along those lines. Yeah, yeah, okay, I’m, I’m almost the same, but the fact that they, the manuscript was lost, and all of her notes were lost, she, she had to have something, bro, she had to have something, she had to have something that they couldn’t risk getting out, so they had to take the manuscript.

To give you an idea, I, they just probably took that out of, like, precaution, like, okay, it’s like whatever it says, tying up, blue sense, CH BL sense, exactly. Yeah, I guess, okay, what do you think? Put it into context, put it into context. Remember, the warrant commission came out like 11, 10, or 11 months after JFK died. So 63 he died, dies in November, so then October 64, 64 is the Warren Commission, she dies 65. Yeah, like right after. Yeah, I mean, this was obviously still like a probably a hot button, and they’re, I guar, just like Cory saying, I guarantee they’re like, we got to [bleep] get this, get out of this [bleep], and that’s personally why I think they’re like, well, nothing’s working.

War, Vietnam maybe, like, I think Vietnam was in’ 69, 6, really started 66 and 67 was really close. And then I think that she probably, I don’t think she had like The Smoking Gun, I don’t think she was like, this is the person who killed JFK, I think she probably had legit testimonies that were contradictory to what the war commission said, in the book. Yeah, that we lost, that they took. Yeah, I feel like she, I feel like she had confirmed, I feel like she had, burn it, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, burn it, burn it, mother, the [bleep] apartment. No, I do, I do feel like she probably had some other eyewitnesses that were contradictory to the story, the warrant commission said, so they didn’t, they didn’t want any, they didn’t want any conflicting information, because they just settled it, it was a whole Congressional [bleep] thing, took them months.

Yes, and it would, you can’t, then it makes the entire government system look stupid, and they’re like, we can’t [bleep], we, we can’t have us all looking like [bleep], right, especially right after the Warren Commission. No, and right away, and then they all look like idiots, and, and then people be like, what the [bleep], why, why are you, are elected official, Ruby just got killed, that’s like, think back to just kind of put yourself in the viewpoint of back then, this is going down, it just, or it just went down, right, like, think about, like, the state of the country, the uneasiness, the, our government killed their own president.

Exactly, then killed oswal, then kill Ruby, everyone’s, Ru Ruby still alive, but, like, killed oswal, Ruby killed oswal, and, you know, are we going to have this journalist, like, keep poking the bear, and, like, stirring things up. Or, or do we need to tie up loose ends, you know, and she wasn’t like a loose end per se, I guess, but, like, she like a hang kind of. Yeah, that [bleep] an eye, damn it, this is going to turn into something worse if I don’t get rid of it right now. Okay, okay, yeah, well, I don’t like how she died. Definitely not how she died, is super sket, that even if she was an alcoholic, fine, she’s a journalist in the 60s, but you’re not going to die like that if you’re an alol, she could deal.

I mean, I mean, like, we have like four neutrals, and we’re like, give me an Uber quick, she like 18 martinis, and then, like, yeah, it’s a whole different, she go, like, interview of alcoholism, she could deal with it. Now, also, also, like, you’re not necessarily going to die one night just because you drank a bunch of alcohol, like, being, if you, if she was an alcoholic to that degree, where she was like almost [bleep] killing herself, then I think we would have probably heard, think her friends would have been like, we were really worried about her, she was on [bleep] some other [bleep]. I mean, she was on a t show every week for years, it’s like imagine, like, Bob Barker’s up there, like, e Insanity.

So if she’s on quote unquote, like, an ambian and alcohol, that, and she’s, and she’s ripping 20 Questions off, like, no, get [bleep] out of here. And I do, I do suggest you go watch one of the episodes, it’s Brad. Yeah, go watch it. Watch, yeah, and see, like, how she is, she’s smart, she’s fast, she’s really like quick, you know. So yeah, so I don’t like how she died. Um, I’m with you guys, I’m with you guys, I think, I think she was killed for nefarious purposes. What do you think she found? Uh, no, I would, I would assume, based on what I could tell, she figured out that Ruby, uh, didn’t know Oswald, oh, and he just killed him for no reason, or he was told to kill him.

Yeah, something along that Lin. Now do you think the mob, you think the Bob killed her, or do you think the government did? Oh yeah, that’s a good question, I mean, a little bit both, maybe. That’s, that told me the same, govern, said, hey, you got a henchman, go, go do. Yeah, like, look, you’re immunity, go do the thing, you’re like a guy, so go do the thing. Yeah, but if you remember, the Warren Commission, they said that, that Ruby killed oswal for political reasons, and for, he just hated JFK, or, like, he loved JFK, and he, like, basically, whatever, right. The point, the point I’m trying to say is, though, godamn com, the point I’m trying to say is, though, that I feel like she found something out about Ruby, he was like ordered, connected, he’s like, I was ordered to kill him by XYZ, and she’s like, or somebody, somebody helped him do it, and said, hey, he’s going to be here at that time.

Oh yeah, like literally walked him up to the front of the line. Yeah, so you remember when they went to the parking gar, walked in, would tell her that, though, he’s said he’s going to, he’s going to go to jail for the rest of his life. You don’t think he, sh, why, he didn’t know he was going to. Maybe she, maybe she boned. Have you ever met those women, maybe? Have you ever, have you ever met those women, though, that, like, like, just rip out, like, like, just get to your core, and, like, or have you ever met my wife? Yeah, exactly, you met my wife, she’s like, what did you guys do last night?

Yeah, and they have three, it’s just three questions, and then, like, just, I mean, talk about, but it’s a good question. Every, every woman, Grandma. Yeah, every woman, basically. No, it’s a good question, though, like, why would he say something to her? Yeah, yeah, me, she was obviously good at her craft. True. Yeah, I don’t know the answer, she dropped a little tit. He’s in prison, he’s like, [bleep], I’m not going to get, he’s like, it’s going to be a long time before you see one of these bad boys, and he’s like, like that, I’ll tell you what you need to know, you’re not going to believe this one, tip for T, tit for T, tip for tip.

Yeah, D, maybe she did, I’m saying. Yeah, I like that theory, it’s a, it’s a hot Theory, a good, he’s going to be around dudes for the rest of his life, right, and he’s like, and he’s a mobster, so, you know, he was like getting it right, he’s going to be like, oh no, well, he was like a poser mobster, but, yeah, he’s a nightclub owner who wanted to be. Anyway, go back and listen to the JFK, but I’m not going to listen to that again, [bleep], crazy. No, so I don’t know, I think that’s what she found out. I think she found out some sort of connection between Ruby and Oswald.

Okay, so, like you said, you was like, it’s not like a Smoking Gun, but it’s like, hey, what Warren Commission said Is A Lie, it contradicts everything that was said in the Warren Commission. So, so yeah, I think, and then it goes back to what I’m saying, then they need a sign, they’re like, no, no, no, no, we can’t, we can’t have this election year coming up, like, we can’t, we can’t have, we got a war to promote, like, how much money we’re gonna make off this [bleep]. Well, uh, there you go, Black Hawks, I’m gonna sell. So that’s what we got tonight. I do, I do want to say, I think Dorothy was a rad person, I wish she was with us.

Uh, I’m glad we were able to kind of keep her memory alive, because actually, if you read some of her columns, she sounds intelligent, quick witted, and asks the right questions just like us, you know. So, so if you have a chance, if you have a chance, if you have a chance, look her up. And there you go, that’s what we got tonight. Yeah, so, seriously, tell us what, right in, tell us what you think, tell, if you think we’re off base, or if you hate us. Yeah, we love those. Or do we miss anything? Do you guys have a different theory here? Like, that I like that.

Anyways, uh, night, night.